Does it mean that God didn't know that Adam and Eve wasn't going to mess things up in the first place?

mekuso89:
Does it mean that God didn't know that Adam and Eve wasn't going to mess things up in the first place?

God told them that they would die any day they eat from the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. God gave them freedom and they made their choice. It is not a case of God not knowing that they could stray.

immortalcrown:
God told them that they would die any day they eat from the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. God gave them freedom and they made their choice. It is not a case of God not knowing that they could stray.

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So why did he plant a calamitous fruit of death in the first place if he wanted them to be happy?

chatinent:
.So why did he plant a calamitous fruit of death in the first place if he wanted them to be happy?

The planting represents freedom. The tree is not evil. A good illustration is alcohol. Most consumers of alcohol misbehave. Does it make alcohol evil? Will you say why did Jesus Christ turn water to wine?

immortalcrown:
The planting represents freedom. The tree is not evil. A good illustration is alcohol. Most consumers of alcohol misbehave. Does it make alcohol evil? Will you say why did Jesus Christ turn water to wine?

Even if they didn't eat that one, man would bring another plot.

mekuso89:
Does it mean that God didn't know that Adam and Eve wasn't going to mess things up in the first place?

Well, the god knew but he wanted to watch Adam, Eve and the rest of humans after them suffer. It's a planned work. That's why the tree was there and the snake also to tempt them. To make sure they fail.

immortalcrown:
God told them that they would die any day they eat from the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. God gave them freedom and they made their choice. It is not a case of God not knowing that they could stray.

So you mean that God did not see what they would use their freedom to do?

chatinent:
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So why did he plant a calamitous fruit of death in the first place if he wanted them to be happy?

Is the name of the fruit 'fruit of death'?

God did not make man to be a zombie.

That's the beauty of creation.

He gave a choice

Why didn't the good Satan advice them to eat the fruit if life instead of fruit of knowledge, if Satan so loves man?

mekuso89:
Does it mean that God didn't know that Adam and Eve wasn't going to mess things up in the first place?

First let's go back to the beginning.

The Gods created earth and heaven. Plural, because they are more than one.

They came from a star system(nibiru) not planet. Two brothers Enki and Enli visited and created earth together, as well as some other female gods, they were sent by Anu their father. After the creation, Enki then desired for man to be created of the likeness of they. "Let us make man" that's Enki talking, hence he formed man from clay and then Enli breathed life into man.
Enli is known as yahweh. While Enki birthed other gods like Thoth, Horus, etc these gods were worship in ancient Egypt.
While Yeshua is the son of Enli.

After the creation of man Enli desired for man to worship him, but Enki had a soft spot for humans so he made them to eat of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, so they have knowledge.

Enli drove man out man out of the garden, so they could not eat of the tree of life then live forever.

The two Gods, Enki and Enli rule the universe.

Jokerman:
God did not make man to be a zombie.

That's the beauty of creation.

He gave a choice

The question is, did God know the choice Adam and Eve would make beforehand?

Michael547:

The question is, did God know the choice Adam and Eve would make beforehand?

Probably... But he hoped they'd obey him instead of listening to the devil

Truuth:
First let's go back to the beginning.

The Gods created earth and heaven. Plural, because they are more than one.

They came from a star system(nibiru) not planet. Two brothers Enki and Enli visited and created earth together, as well as some other female gods, they were sent by Anu their father. After the creation, Enki then desired for man to be created of the likeness of they. "Let us make man" that's Enki talking, hence he formed man from clay and then Enli breathed life into man.
Enli is known as yahweh. While Enki birthed other gods like Thoth, Horus, etc these gods were worship in ancient Egypt.
While Yeshua is the son of Enli.

After the creation of man Enli desired for man to worship him, but Enki had a soft spot for humans so he made them to eat of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, so they have knowledge.

Enli drove man out man out of the garden, so they could not eat of the tree of life then live forever.

The two Gods, Enki and Enli rule the universe.

So who created Anu their father?

Jokerman:


Probably... But he hoped they'd obey him instead of listening to the devil

Probably? Meaning that you are not even sure, right?


For God to hope means that he did not know the decision they would take. Is that correct?

Michael547:

Probably? Meaning that you are not even sure, right?


For God to hope means that he did not know the decision they would take. Is that correct?

God knows everything.

However sometimes we humans can sway his decisions or judgement... That's the level of creation we are.

Jokerman:


God knows everything.

However sometimes we humans can sway his decisions or judgement... That's the level of creation we are.

For God to know everything means that he knew the decisions that Adam and Eve would make. So why were you saying probably?

Jokerman:
Why didn't the good Satan advice them to eat the fruit if life instead of fruit of knowledge, if Satan so loves man?

it wasn't the devil that told them to eat the fruit. Two Gods visited earth in time past, as well as some female gods. They created the earth and the heavens together. They were Enki and Enli.
"Let's us make man" that's Enki, and he formed man from clay while Enli breathed into man to give him life.

Enlil wanted man to only worship him, and not wanting man to have knowledge but Enki being the God of wisdom wanted the opposite. So Enki spoke through the serpent told eve to eat the fruit, so they could be knowledgeable.

Enlil drove man out of the garden henceforth.
Man before were like animals without self awareness.

There were two Gods, that was why there were two trees there. B'cause Enki and Enli co-created man.

Enli is also known as yahweh today.. Enki is not the devil but God's other brother.

Truuth:
it wasn't the devil that told them to eat the fruit. Two Gods visited earth in time past, as well as some female gods. They created the earth and the heavens together. They were Enki and Enli.
"Let's us make man" that's Enki, and he formed man from clay while Enli breathed into man to give him life.

Enlil wanted man to only worship him, and not wanting man to have knowledge but Enki being the God of wisdom wanted the opposite. So Enki spoke through the serpent told eve to eat the fruit, so they could be knowledgeable.

Enlil drove man out of the garden henceforth.
Man before were like animals without self awareness.

There were two Gods, that was why there were two trees there. B'cause Enki and Enli co-created man.

Enli is also known as yahweh today.. Enki is not the devil but God's other brother.

What is the source of this information?

Truuth:
it wasn't the devil that told them to eat the fruit. Two Gods visited earth in time past, as well as some female gods. They created the earth and the heavens together. They were Enki and Enli.
"Let's us make man" that's Enki, and he formed man from clay while Enli breathed into man to give him life.

Enlil wanted man to only worship him, and not wanting man to have knowledge but Enki being the God of wisdom wanted the opposite. So Enki spoke through the serpent told eve to eat the fruit, so they could be knowledgeable.

Enlil drove man out of the garden henceforth.
Man before were like animals without self awareness.

There were two Gods, that was why there were two trees there. B'cause Enki and Enli co-created man.

Enli is also known as yahweh today.. Enki is not the devil but God's other brother.

Lol... Don't be deceived with satanic Sumerian myths...

Open your eyes

Michael547:

So who created Anu their father?

I don't know, but make your research...
The tablets that told this story was written thousands of years back, it predates the bible.. and the stories from the bible not wholly true.

Truuth:


I don't know, but make your research...
The tablets that told this story was written, it predates the bible.. and the stories from the not wholly true.

...what is the name of the tablet?

Jokerman:


Lol... Don't be deceived with satanic Sumerian myths...

Open your eyes

they are the true story bro, the books of Adam and Enock were left out of the bible on purpose.

Only Adam would have told us the complete story but they took it out.

Jesus even went to the school if Thoth in Egypt to learn from Thoth. Thoth one of the sons of Enki.

Explain how Christ is the son of God? Because Enli mated with a female Goddess to give birth to Christ. God has a wife.

Truuth:

I don't know, but make your research...
The tablets that told this story was written thousands of years back, it predates the bible.. and the stories from the bible not wholly true.

Funny atheists!

Michael547:

I never told you I had a bible....what is the name of the tablet?

They were ancient Egyptian summerian tablet.

Truuth:
They were ancient Egyptian summerian tablet.

So you are saying that the tablets are true as against the bible which is a lie, right?

Michael547:

So you are saying that the tablets are true as against the bible which is a lie, right?

The bible copied the texts from the tablets. The bible says snake, the text says Enki.

The bible says one God. The text says "Gods" meaning plural.

Aside that there are many mistranslations and Error in the bible.

"Let us make man" who is talking here ? and who is being spoken to ?

Truuth:
The bible copied the texts from the tablets. The bible says snake, the text says Enki.

The God bible says one God. The text says "Gods" meaning plural.

Aside that there are many mistranslations and Error in the bible.

So the tablet is the true source of information and there are no lies within it, right?

Michael547:
So you mean that God did not see what they would use their freedom to do?

When you send your child to school and advice the child to be serious with education, does it mean you don't see the possibility of the child failing exams or even joining bad gangs?

immortalcrown:
When you send your child to school and advice the child to be serious with education, does it mean you don't see the possibility of the child failing exams or even joining bad gangs?

I see only possibilities because I can't see the future and know exactly the decisions that they would make.

Are you now saying that the way I see the future is the same way God sees it?

Are you saying that God cannot see the exact decisions that we would make in life before we are even born?