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Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by LordReed(m): 5:58am On May 05 |
Emusan: My question is rhetorical. In other words after repeatedly expressing how much beneath him humans are, there is no logical reason this so called god would choose to be human, the ability to do so notwithstanding. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by 22jumpstreet: 9:21am On May 05 |
Emusan: Do you understand these two passages at all? Isaiah 40:18 To whom will you liken God? To what image will you compare Him? Isaiah 44:6-20 Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place... |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Emusan(m): 12:04pm On May 05 |
22jumpstreet: Since you couldn't answer my question and you come with these verses. Well, no where in the verses you quoted that say God can't become HUMAN BEING. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Emusan(m): 12:13pm On May 05 |
LordReed: All the verse verses provided by the OP shows God is placing Himself above HUMAN based on Human characters and not that God is denying that He can't BECOME A HUMAN. That was the reason I asked you that question. In other words after repeatedly expressing how much beneath him humans are, BASED ON THEIR CHARACTER. there is no logical reason this so called god would choose to be human There's very strong logical reason for that. For instance, in one of the verses it says: "God is not a MAN, that HE SHOULD LIE..." Which mean if God becomes a MAN HE WILL STILL NEVER LIE. the ability to do so notwithstanding. This is it! So which means those verses never say God can NEVER BECOME A HUMAN It's just OP self interpretation. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by LordReed(m): 12:19pm On May 05 |
Emusan: What is the logical reason this so called god, after stating repeatedly how beneath him humans are, he would become a human. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by 22jumpstreet: 1:56pm On May 05 |
Emusan: God can not become a man because then, it can be compared to me and you More over, man is dust and a creation of God.... I still don't get it, how can God become man? He would cease to be almighty since he would be limited by space and time.... It just does not make sense... |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Emusan(m): 3:11pm On May 05 |
LordReed: One thing you still don't want to admit openly is that those verses never CLAIMED GOD CAN'T BECOME HUMAN against what the OP said. Well, the logical reason is very simple God only highlighted Human shortcomings in those verses not that HE CAN'T BECOME HUMAN. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Emusan(m): 3:21pm On May 05 |
22jumpstreet: You're not God to know this. So don't conclude on His behalf. More over, man is dust and a creation of God.... Sure and no doubt about that. I still don't get it, how can God become man? That is why He is Almighty. If Angels who are part of His creation can take on human form then I don't see the reason why that will be so difficult for God to do. With God ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. He would cease to be almighty since he would be limited by space and time.... Because He is Almighty God is the very reason it's easy for Him to be Human and not cease to still be God. God can appear in all 36 states of Nigeria plus FCT at the same time and still be on His throne in Heaven. So stop looking at God as just a mere immutable entity. Based on the discovery of scientists (I assume you believe in God) about how magnificent the Universe is, how can the the entity behind such creation called God can achieve that the way you view Him as mere immutable being? Only an unimaginable being can achieve that. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by LordReed(m): 6:10pm On May 05 |
Emusan: The logical reason the supposed god became human was because the god only highlighted Human shortcomings in those verses not that HE CAN'T BECOME HUMAN. How is this a logical reason? |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Emusan(m): 7:24pm On May 05 |
LordReed: I'm addressing the OP first! None of the verses OP quoted show that God can't become HUMAN. Fact! If you want a logical reason why God can become Human, then it's not about the OP anymore. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by StillDtruth: 7:54pm On May 05 |
LordReed: So now you admit that "Not that He can't become himan" which is what Emusan has been telling you, So, case closed! |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by StillDtruth: 7:55pm On May 05 |
Emusan: He knows. You know Reed lives to make God look evil or a liar. A real satan's prophet and JoeEel won't see this trait. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by LordReed(m): 9:05pm On May 05 |
Emusan: LoLz. Whenever you are ready. Bwahahahahaha! |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Hier(m): 9:28pm On May 05 |
When we call Jesus God, we are not referring to the physical form of Jesus,but the spiritual part of Jesus God is a Spirit (John 4:24), that's what the Bible says and that's why Jesus would say, He that has seen me has seen the father. He wasn't referring to His physical self, but the spirit inside Him When Gabriel told Mary about the birth of Jesus, she asked, how shall this be, them Gabriel said, the power of the most High, meaning the spirit of God shall descend upon thee and that thing that shall be born. Luke 1:35 The woman gave birth to a flesh, but the real thing came from Heaven which was the Spirit of God. And the Spirit of God is not like something you can restrict, it can be here and it can be there, Jesus said I proceeded out of the Father, Jesus said the Holy Spirit proceeds out of God. 1X1X1=1, because it is the same one thing John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. He sent me here refer to His assignment as human 1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 7:21am On May 06 |
MaxInDHouse: The creator does not become man and will never change! I don't think this affects your position as a Jehovah witness! Jesus is not God to you guys but an Angel! So it's an Angel who becomes man in your case! |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 7:23am On May 06 |
kingthreat: As baseless as the argument is you still can't directly respond to it. So you agree the Bible can be used to justify anything as you seem fit? |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 7:30am On May 06 |
Kobojunkie:YHWH is not a man and does not becomes a man! He is omniscient and absolute eternal i.e. do not ever die. His knowledge and power is never restricted at anytime! 2. The Scripture I posted earlier clearly shows that God did not limit His image to a single gender in that situation. He created them both by His own hands. The passage did not say anything about gender being a part of God's Image but that God created them in His image, male and female He created them. So, why would He have a body issue such as the one you seem to be having at this moment? If God created man in His image what image does God possess? Tall or short image? Fat or thin image? Beautiful or ugly image? Man or woman's image? Black race or white race image? |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 7:31am On May 06 |
StillDtruth: But God is not Femi Otedola. F'emi is a man! If God said categorically He does not become man when did He change? |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by StillDtruth: 8:15am On May 06 |
AbuTwins: Why are pretend you lack understanding? If you can see that Femi does not change because he entered molue how can you not see that God does not change because He entered this world? You don't have any valid thing to say but to blaspheme God and God will punish you. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 8:30am On May 06 |
StillDtruth: God clearly said he is not a man! God clearly said he can predict the future! God clearly challenged anyone who claims to be God to predict the future! Isaiah 44:6-20 Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place... Jesus failed! Jesus couldn't foretell the hour in Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. God becoming a man is a change! When the creator enters the creation, that's a change! Femi Otedola should enter heaven and come back! |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by StillDtruth: 8:37am On May 06 |
AbuTwins: So If Femi enters trailer that carries cows it mean that he is now.a cow? You are not being reasonable at all! See i have retired from having long arguments. Continue your blasphemis, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 8:43am On May 06 |
StillDtruth:Yes, if Femi created the cow in the first place! A human creates computer system. Can he enter the Operating system he created? You are not being reasonable at all! See i have retired from having long arguments. Continue your blasphemis, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself.Your argument is illogical and irrational! |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by kingthreat(m): 9:32am On May 06 |
AbuTwins: There's nothing I will contribute to make you see otherwise. Energy to waste on that can be expended on something more useful for myself. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 9:46am On May 06 |
kingthreat: Exactly! Move on! |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by StillDtruth: 9:48am On May 06 |
AbuTwins: So Mr. Toyoda became a Toyota Camry when he entered it because he created it? See, how you prove that you are an unreasoble person? Continue your blasphemies, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 9:55am On May 06 |
StillDtruth:How did he enter the car system? Does enter mean "use it"? People can use the computer, they don't enter its OS. People can use a car, they don't become part of the car system! See, how you prove that you are an unreasoble person? Continue your blasphemies, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself.You are the illogical and unreasonable one here! Chai! See brain! |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Steep(m): 11:13am On May 06 |
AbuTwins:God is not a man (the corrupt sinful man) that he should lie. That does not mean he cannot be a man. God does not change in the sense that his nature is unchangeable ( does not improve nor degrade in essence) When God became man his divine essence didn't change. |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 12:21pm On May 06 |
StillDtruth:Nothing was changed. It's your IQ that couldn't encompass simple logic. Using an item is different from being in an item! Told you before, you are just here proving muslims are mad devils here to blaspheme God as the bible foretold, exactly how the other muslims before you have played out.The next time you abuse na to just report you! God will punish you people greatly both here an in death.You shall not judge for as you judge.... I aint gat time for forever arguments.Me self no get time! Where is the sin? And where is God coming? |
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 12:25pm On May 06 |
Steep:Where did God add that one you added in bracket? That does not mean he cannot be a man.Of course God said he is never a man many times! God does not change in the sense that his nature is unchangeable ( does not improve nor degrade in essence)Human nature is different from God's! Humans depend on food for growth! God becoming man will make him dependent on food for growth! He will also become dependent on humans for protection! Hence Jesus's parent had to run away with him to protect your so-called God! When God became man his divine essence didn't change.Na lie. Everything has changed! |
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