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The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by tfrancis(m): 9:36am On Nov 11, 2023
Go for everlasting life of God by accepting Jesus into your life:
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Be free from condemnation:
John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."

JESUS IS THE SOLUTION!

Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 2:51pm On Nov 11, 2023
So how would all the problems that face humanity now be solved?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Kobojunkie: 4:23pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
So how would all the problems that face humanity now be solved?
Not trying to hold brief for OP but where God talk say His plan is to relieve humanity of all problems? undecided
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:23pm On Nov 11, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Not trying to hold brief for OP but where God talk say His plan is to relieve humanity of all problems? undecided
So would humans continue to suffer forever?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Kobojunkie: 6:25pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
■ So would humans continue to suffer forever?
So God never in fact said it. You all simply assert it anyways with no statement from Him promising to do just that? undecided
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 6:28pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
So how would all the problems that face humanity now be solved?

Kobojunkie:
Not trying to hold brief for OP but where God talk say His plan is to relieve humanity of all problems? undecided
Revelation 21:1-4
1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth.
The first heaven and the first earth had disappeared, and so had the sea.
2 Then I saw New Jerusalem, the holy city, coming down from God in heaven.
It was like a bride dressed in her wedding gown and ready to meet her husband.
3 I heard a loud voice shout from the throne:
God's home is now with his people.
He will live with them, and they will be his own.
Yes, God will make his home among his people.
4He will wipe all tears from their eyes,
and there will be no more death, suffering, crying, or pain.
These things of the past are gone forever


Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:28pm On Nov 11, 2023
Kobojunkie:
So God never in fact said it. You all simply assert it anyways with no statement from Him promising to do just that? undecided
So what plans does God have for humanity? Kindly show me from scriptures.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:29pm On Nov 11, 2023
NNTR:


Revelation 21:1-4
1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth.
The first heaven and the first earth had disappeared, and so had the sea.
2 Then I saw New Jerusalem, the holy city, coming down from God in heaven.
It was like a bride dressed in her wedding gown and ready to meet her husband.
3 I heard a loud voice shout from the throne:
God's home is now with his people.
He will live with them, and they will be his own.
Yes, God will make his home among his people.
4He will wipe all tears from their eyes,
and there will be no more death, suffering, crying, or pain.
These things of the past are gone forever


Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Where would this promises take place, heaven or on earth?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Kobojunkie: 6:31pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
■ So what plans does God have for humanity? Kindly show me from scriptures.
Humanity? Where do you get this idea that God has a particular plan for humanity from though? undecided
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:32pm On Nov 11, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Humanity? Where do you get this idea that God has a particular plan for humanity from though? undecided
So he has no plans? Then for what purpose did he create humans?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Kobojunkie: 6:36pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
■ So he has no plans? Then for what purpose did he create humans?
He has no plans? That is the conclusion you take from my questions? Interesting! undecided

God's plan has always been to use His Israel to regain rulership over the world which He formerly handed over to man. His goal from the beginning had been to harvest for Himself Sons of God, beings worthy of serving Him eternally. undecided
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 6:37pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
Where would this promises take place, heaven or on earth?
The advent of the new heaven & new earth

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:40pm On Nov 11, 2023
NNTR:
The advent of the new heaven & new earth

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
So who would be on the earth? A lot of pastors says that all good people would go to heaven while all bad people will go to hell fire? Why the twist?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:43pm On Nov 11, 2023
Kobojunkie:
He has no plans? That is the conclusion you take from my questions? Interesting! undecided

God's plan has always been to use His Israel to regain rulership over the world which He formerly handed over to man. His goal from the beginning had been to harvest for Himself Sons of God, beings worthy of serving Him eternally. undecided
So when God takes rulership over the world, what would life be like by then. Would it remain the same as we have it today?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Kobojunkie: 6:46pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
■ So when God takes rulership over the world, what would life be like by then.
■ Would it remain the same as we have it today?
According to Revelations 2 vs 27, He will rule with a rod of Iron and shatter them .... undecided

2. The same as today, in what way? undecided
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 6:46pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
So he has no plans? Then for what purpose did he create humans?
Genesis 1:26a
Then God said, “Let Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness [not physical,
but a spiritual personality and moral likeness] ...”


The primary purposes of creating humans, from the onset, and just, as stated in the bible, is to make replicas of Godhead (i.e. copies on a smaller scale, of course)

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:47pm On Nov 11, 2023
Kobojunkie:
According to Revelations 2 vs 27, He will rule with a rod of Iron and shatter them .... undecided
Who are those referred to as 'them'
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:49pm On Nov 11, 2023
NNTR:
Genesis 1:26a
Then God said, “Let Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness [not physical,
but a spiritual personality and moral likeness] ...”


The primary purposes of creating humans, from the onset, and just, as stated in the bible, is to make replicas of Godhead (i.e. copies on a smaller scale, of course)

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.


Where were humans suppose to live? Were they to live on earth or in heaven?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 6:52pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
So who would be on the earth?
All with godly nature would be on earth

Michael547:
A lot of pastors says that all good people would go to heaven while all bad people will go to hell fire?
The fact is, Lake of Fire awaits hell, Satan, demons, death and all with ungodly nature (i.e. anyone whose name is not found written in the book of life)

Michael547:
Why the twist?
What twist please?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Kobojunkie: 6:55pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
■ Who are those referred to as 'them'
The Nations. undecided
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:55pm On Nov 11, 2023
NNTR:
All with godly nature would be on earth

The fact is, Lake of Fire awaits hell, Satan, demons, death and all with ungodly nature (i.e. anyone whose name is not found written in the book of life)

What twist please?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
What is the difference between hell and lake of fire? How come death and hell would be put in the lake of fire since they are not living things? Who are those that would go to heaven?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 6:56pm On Nov 11, 2023
Kobojunkie:
The Nations. undecided
Do you mean all people who are not isrealites would be destroyed? What do you mean by the nations?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 7:01pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
Where were humans suppose to live? Were they to live on earth or in heaven?
Our citizenship is in heaven, wherever God is, is where they live, so both
Everyone returns back to earth, after a honeymoon, in heaven

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 7:04pm On Nov 11, 2023
[quote author=NNTR post=126914867]
Our citizenship is in heaven, wherever God is, is where they live, so both
Everyone returns back to earth, after a honeymoon, in heaven

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.nation's?
If our citizenship is in heaven, why were we created on earth in the first place? Why do we have to go to heaven and come back to earth again?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 7:05pm On Nov 11, 2023
NNTR:

Our citizenship is in heaven, wherever God is, is where they live, so both
Everyone returns back to earth, after a honeymoon, in heaven

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
If our citizenship is in heaven, why were we created on earth in the first place? Why do we have to go to heaven and come back to earth again? Where does the Bible teach that every good people would go to heaven and later come back to earth?
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Kobojunkie: 7:11pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
■ Do you mean all people who are not isrealites would be destroyed? What do you mean by the nations?
If they were to be destroyed then who would God's Israel have left to rule over with an iron scepter? undecided
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 7:12pm On Nov 11, 2023
NNTR:
Mark 9:43
'And if your hand should cause you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter into life crippled,
than having two hands to go away into Gehenna, into the unquenchable fire.
'

You ought to know better than be misappropriating

Do you see hell written in Matthew 25:41 and note that Matthew 25:41 has a witness verse, which is Matthew 5:30 parroting it.
Now what witness verse have you that corroborates Mark 9:43 equating Gehenna to be everlasting fire, when in actual fact, the fire that Mark 9:43 is talking of there, is the smouldering fire at Gehenna, in other words, the incinerating refuse dump at Jerusalem.

No man's has monopoly of knowledge, so be humble enough to take to correction that the devil is not sent to Gehenna or hell as you claimed. Gehenna was not created for him and fallen angels, period. You'll be wise to stop using Gehenna in relation to the devil and its demons

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.



Michael547:
What is the difference between hell and lake of fire?
The former ends up in the latter

Michael547:
How come death and hell would be put in the lake of fire since they are not living things?
If not to your liking, and on your premise that they arent living things, you can try put a stop to them, be put the lake of fire

Michael547:
Who are those that would go to heaven?
The bride of Christ will

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 7:13pm On Nov 11, 2023
Kobojunkie:
If they were to be destroyed then who would God's Israel have left to rule over with an iron scepter? undecided
So explain what you mean by saying that the nations would be shattered.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 7:16pm On Nov 11, 2023
NNTR:



The former ends up in the latter

If not to your liking, and on your premise that they arent living things, you can try put a stop to them, be put the lake of fire

The bride of Christ will

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
What is the difference between hell and the lake of fire is what i am asking....I was not asking where one would end up.
What is hell and what is the lake of fire? Explain
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 7:29pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
If our citizenship is in heaven, why were we created on earth in the first place?
Simply because earth is a training ground, as it were

Michael547:
Why do we have to go to heaven and come back to earth again?
Besides the fact that simply because the supper of the wedding ceremony will hold place in heaven. What happens after a honeymoon?

Michael547:
Where does the Bible teach that every good people would go to heaven and later come back to earth?
Revelation 19:7-9
Now, have you ever wondered whats the significance of it and why it was at a wedding that Jesus' first miracle was performed?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by NNTR: 7:40pm On Nov 11, 2023
Michael547:
What is the difference between hell and the lake of fire is what i am asking....I was not asking where one would end up.
'Where one would end up', is a difference between hell and the lake of fire (i.e. difference is, one ends up in the belly of the other)

Michael547:
What is hell and what is the lake of fire? Explain
The Israelites have no concept of hell, which incidentally is a Greek concept manufactured based on Greek mythology

Hell aka Hades, has a Greek mythology origin, as I earlier alluded to

Gehenna, is a smouldering incinerating refuse dump site, that Israelites are well conversant with, being a location in Jerusalem, where corpses of criminals, dead animals and all manners of waste, refuse, household rubbish et cetera were thrown to be destroyed

Lake of Fire, on the other hand, essentially, is Gehenna, on steroids, its a final destination and point of no return place, as it were

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Finished Work Of God For Humanity by Michael547(m): 7:46pm On Nov 11, 2023
NNTR:
Simply because earth is a training ground, as it were

Besides the fact that simply because the supper of the wedding ceremony will hold place in heaven. What happens after a honeymoon?

Revelation 19:7-9
Now, have you ever wondered whats the significance of it and why it was at a wedding that Jesus' first miracle was performed?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Where does the Bible teach that the earth is a training ground. Does that mean that God's plan for creating humans was for them to suffer?

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