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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by fatima04: 7:30pm On May 15 |
In addition to all the NHS discuss, they need to focus the energy used for Brexit to develop a system that works. I have heard Sajid taunt the Australia hybrid system which looks to be working for now, so everyone can access at least a level of care. The current system is not sustainable and needs to be overhauled now rather than later. In addition, an area the government need to work on is regulating the food sector because of obesity and increased cancer diagnosis in recent years which in turn increases the demand for sophisticated medicine and intervention. In the 1970s, 1 in 25 people will have breast cancer in the UK and the most recent figure is 1 in 7 people. In Japan the figure, is 1 in 35 or thereabout, the things they are doing different is cutting processed foods, kids working to school with an employed chaperone from 5yrs. I read some employers even go as far as scanning your body once you tap in, and the system will let you know the amount of fat and muscle mass you have. Also make it your KPI for the year if you need to loose weight (its radical but maybe thats what we need ) We simply cannot continue to live like this and then the yeye capitalist system will create expensive drugs like ozempic, wegovy etc that is essentially a temporary solution (with serious side effects ) to the problem of obesity created. Sadly, I don't see Keir or Labour being the messiah to do that. He isn't that strong willed. In as much as I don't like Rishi, I still like a lot of his hard stance in the Education sector and all. He just needs to level down and relate better with people 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by adeolaspecial: 7:35pm On May 15 |
Viruses: Oh...thanks for clarifying this. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by adeolaspecial: 7:39pm On May 15 |
hayesconcept: Sure will. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by adeolaspecial: 7:39pm On May 15 |
Zahra29: This i have been made aware of. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 7:48pm On May 15 |
It is really hard to advise as I don't know the 2 organisations. As Zahra29 said, most consulting firms are having issues now. A lot of them rely on contract in the public sector, which has been hugely impacted due to the incoming election. However, as you are not a consultant, this might not really affect you. If I were in your shoes, I would go to places like glassdoor to read reviews about the 2 organisations. I will also take into consideration the remuneration, benefits and working conditions. How big is the other company? Any history of redundancy. How are the doing financially. Those are the questions you should be asking to help you make your decision. hyzich: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 7:56pm On May 15 |
I agree, most of these countries are same except the US, which comes with high probability of getting high salary. It however comes with its own issues too. We have decided to just remain here and not stress ourselves with relocating. We will instead travel on holiday to different countries. Ticha: 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 7:57pm On May 15 |
Even @74 years old, home office still denied him an ILR........ https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/15/wirral-local-legend-refused-indefinite-leave-to-remain-by-home-office |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 8:00pm On May 15 |
Didn't know you have to spend that much as a Doctor. We didn't know of the school fees and health insurance until when we started researching. Once you start researching, you will realise that the grass is not always greener at the other side. It can be exhausting emigrating again. fatima04: 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hyzich(m): 8:45pm On May 15 |
dupyshoo: Thanks for your input dupyshoo and Zahra29 Both coys are global entities and I have checked Glassdoor and indeed but seems the IT company has better ratings and what they offer is 5k over what the consulting firm offered. I think my indecision is because I have always loved to work in consulting firms. I think it’s clearer now. Thanks |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:45pm On May 15 |
dupyshoo: 💯 The UK is quite generous in comparison when you consider that education is free (from compulsory school age) and there is no health insurance and corresponding medical tests 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:48pm On May 15 |
hyzich: Even if you went with the IT firm now, there is always the option to move into consulting down the line as they value industry experience. Many people switch back and forth between industry and consulting . |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:49pm On May 15 |
Lexusgs430: Now that his case has been picked up by the Guardian, the HO will quietly backtrack and reconsider their decision |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 8:57pm On May 15 |
Good to hear that you are reaching the point of making a decision. You actually have a good problem. Not to make it worse, 5k is not that much though, if that's what is in between the 2 coys. What about other benefits? Future prospects? I will pray about it as well as I am a Christian. Also, why do you like working with consulting firm? It can be a very tensed environment as it is usually all about bringing more businesses. You are not going to be a consultant, so you won't be impacted though. I wish you all the best in making the right decision. hyzich: 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:58pm On May 15 |
fatima04: Lol at the system in Japan, but definitely food for thought (pardon the pun 🙈)...the Japanese culture as a whole is more disciplined (and respectful) than here. I agree that the Tories have a more reasonable stance when it comes to education and gender issues (compared to Labour who I fear will pander to every far left ideology). If only we could blend the 2 main parties together.... |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hyzich(m): 9:20pm On May 15 |
dupyshoo: The 5k difference is not much and I didn’t include it as basis for decision. Both have almost the same benefits including private medical but the IT company trumps in other areas. Regarding your question about why I like consulting, well, My love for consulting firms have been since university days but was unlucky to get in after uni and their name on CV ain’t bad as well. I would also pray over it as suggested. Thanks for the advice |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by fatima04: 10:06pm On May 15 |
dupyshoo: Even this US sef, I dont trust the data joor. I know people say high salary, low taxes etc. but it also depends on the sector and you can be laid off with nothing to fall back on. Just the other day, i googled and saw that min wage in houston was 7.52 dollar/hr, my friend there said it doesnt matter jare but then whats is the metric for measuring the living standrad if we dont start with min wage. I now get why tipping culture is a big thing, because how person wan take survive on that. Also same houston or texas generally have cheaper houses but high property tax that run through the tenure of your mortgage |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by fatima04: 10:09pm On May 15 |
dupyshoo: Na so we too discovered during research. All we hear is there is money down under but what is underneath the money we dont know. Its even the 10yrs by force that one has to live in the regional areas. Some of them can be very very rural and rough oo (check out alice springs on youtube 😄). Emigrating is costly and largely favours the government. Make we enjoy UK first before japa 2.0 is activated 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by fatima04: 10:22pm On May 15 |
Zahra29: This is largely the issue, so many sectors are stretched thin because of the increase in demand in different socio-economic issues. For example, a lot of councils are struggling with placing kids and providing enough support for kids with EHCP and behavioural diagnosis, and this is increasing by day. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by fatima04: 10:24pm On May 15 |
Lexusgs430: The article has been removed oo. Just imagine denying the poor man at that age |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by fatima04: 10:45pm On May 15 |
Zahra29: Lol because we like freedom of speech and food . We honestly need a hard stance on so many things but no one wants to be named the government that did a radical thing except it is aimed at Migrants. Perhaps reform party will be better, but they are all the same at the end of the day. You have voiced my major concern about this labour party, I liken them to US Democrats 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by toughest007: 11:47pm On May 15 |
adeolaspecial: Don't stress yourself, you don't need any code to access universal childcare, provided your child is over 3yrs. Reachout to your child's nursery. They ought to get across to you if your child is of age. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:10am On May 16 |
fatima04: You've hit the nail on the property taxes which many home owners are currently struggling with, as the taxes can go up quite dramatically as the value of the property increases (which is obviously the goal of a homeowner), making many homeowners rich on paper (equity wise) but cash poor. When you also factor in federal taxes and then state taxes which can run quite high in some states like California, and then health insurance on top....I'm not sure why people think that the US has much lower taxes than the UK. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:17am On May 16 |
fatima04: Yes the SEND sector is in dire need of funding, it's so sad to see children and their parents struggling to get the support they need. Schools in general are struggling, even with the 6k per pupil funding from the government, it's just not enough. We should consider an Australian style approach to ease the funding pressures, and provide support for areas like SEN education. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:25am On May 16 |
fatima04: 💯 Republican policies are typically more rational and more aligned with the US's conservative/moral background, but they get a bad rap for not having a compassionate front (and leaders like Trump don't help the brand much) but I daresay behind the personality (and I'm not a fan of his), perhaps his policies are better for America's interests in the long run. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 4:27am On May 16 |
fatima04: I may be wrong but I think we consume a lot of GMO food in uk. Strawberry 🍓 rottens in 2 days even when it is refrigerated. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 5:14am On May 16 |
fatima04: This. But hard stance will get you cancelled. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by directonpc(m): 7:56am On May 16 |
Zahra29:What is wrong with someone who applied to school in the UK, and can afford the fee bringing their immediate family for the duration of their stay in the UK? I remember as a child, my entire family had to move to a new town within Nigeria so that my mother could further her education. I know this is slightly different when the movement is across countries, but in this second case, its even more important to allow people bring their dependants. It will be interesting to know what the abuse is and why its only allowing people to come to the UK without their family that is the solution. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:39am On May 16 |
directonpc: I've copied a comment from ReesheesuKnack which explains what some of the abuse was: Guy, PSW was NEVER massively abused. What was massively abused WAS the Tier-4 Student Visa. Where folks pay £2,000 deposit. Use fictitious PoF, get into the UK, then abandon their studies. Use the ‘balance’ of the school fees to BUY Health & Care (Carer route) visas. Add to that the sham marriages to bring in fake spouses who have paid the MA to come in on their visa, and then they go their separate ways until it's time for visa renewal. Or where the arrangement is that the dependant assists with the school fees in return for the UK visa. Some then got to the UK, found a better arrangement/partner/care visa and reneged on the original arrangement. Not just with Nigerians, Bangladeshis and others were doing this as well. Other examples abound of the abuse of the tier 4 visa route and why it's been clamped down. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 9:06am On May 16 |
Talking about treatments received through the NHS...... Would this lady think the NHS is about to collapse.......😁
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 9:21am On May 16 |
fatima04: Husbot was offered a transfer to Washington DC August last year. His offered wage was very good. I would have had to start at $65k as a secondary school teacher! Even the non teaching but education roles were around $55k to $70k. Taxes weren't lower over all because we'd pay federal and state taxes then tax on groceries as well. Then you pay property taxes every year which is $0.85 per $100. Majority of houses in nice areas and walking or biking distance of schools are around the $900k mark. Omo, we just carry ourselves come back joor 😅🤣 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 9:29am On May 16 |
fatima04: Walahi Alice Springs was exactly like Otupko! Plus the Aboriginals are treated so so poorly that sometimes we (dudu people) also get mistaken for them and treated shabbily as well. Uluru was awesome sha. We hired a camper van from Alice Springs and drove there and back. Even Melbourne and Brisbane have huge swathes of run down areas that you won't want to find yourself in at any time. I went to Ipswich just outside Brisbane and wanted to run home and have a shower 😅. I just couldn't shake the feeling of a lack of personal safety. 3 Likes
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by heroshark(m): 10:19am On May 16 |
directonpc: Are you pretending not to know that the student route was abused? What are the main criteria for a UK student visa? 1) You should have an accepted offer from an eligible institution and hold a CAS (30 points). 2) You should have sufficient funding to cover your tuition and living expenses (10 points). The majority of people simply did not meet the second criterion and used fraudulent means to obtain it. That is abuse. If we cut the number of students who use fraudulent POF, or those who sold and bought COS, the number of immigrants will drop drastically, and the UK government would not even need to curtail the visa regulations in the first place. According to data from home office, Nigerians has the highest number of students dependents, if you can answer honestly what percentage of those Nigerian students with dependents have complete fund to cover the tuition and living expenses without using fraudulent POF ? How else do you define an abuse? Let's not always try to shy away from the truth. The whole new visa regulations are because a particular set of people (mostly Indians and subcontinentals, Nigerians, and Zimbabweans) are using fraudulent means to obtain the visa, which increases the number to an unsustainable level. And the government have to respond, which is the duty of any government. How they respond is now a different thing altogether. 6 Likes |
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