CAMEROONPRIDE:
go check Ifa and BWITI religion/paganism them come back ...we will see if you still call them disorganized

CAMEROONPRIDE: what's your ethnicity?

gingerbeer: THIS QUESTION APPLIES TO ALL AFRICAN COUNTRIES.

WHERE WILL AFRICA BE WITHOUT EUROPEANS OR EUROPEAN CIVILIZATION?

Please tell me AFRICANS invented the WHEEL, [img]CARS, COMPUTERS etc..before EUROPEANS[/img]??

NIGERIANS BEING STUPID AS USUAL. BUNCH OF MUDS.

all4naija: Your point is not revealing nothing new and it is an avenue to commit crimes. The Zimbabweans have been feeding your most professional sectors for the blacks in that society yet you are not ready to commend that than touched some alive. Xenophobia in your society is unquantifiable, my friend!

PAGAN 9JA:


I didnt say Ndebele. I said NGUNI. this was before Shaka Zulus time.

all4naija: No xenophobia, no animosity for white people and attacks on foreigners on the streets and just to mentioned but a few. Religion infiltration can not be labeled as crime though. So leave Boko Haram out of it. UNODC states clear there is more crime in your society than Nigerian's.

all4naija: You are not really getting the point here. I don't have to blame you for that. It is completely correct Nigeria is crimes ridden nation but not as SA.

This your particular comment only addresses the matter from a single aside while leaving the South African perspective on Nigerians and Nigeria in this forum out of it. I think you don't really know what is happening here.

I hope you will have to search for threads on SA forum on what they talk about Nigerians. Please, leave me out of your sentimental mission. I am not going to be a part of that.

PAGAN 9JA:
btw on a more serious note, the XHosa are part of the Northern Nguni. They got those features for the same reason the San got them. I think it has something to do with the Gods. OR else why would the San themseleves develop it in the first place.

The northern Ndebele are a nation and ethnic group in Southern Africa, who share a common Ndebele culture and Ndebele language. Their history began when a Zulu chiefdom split from King Shaka in the early 19th century under the leadership of Mzilikazi, a former chief in his kingdom and ally. Under his command the disgruntled Zulus went on to conquer and rule the chiefdoms of the Southern Ndebele. This was where the name and identity of the eventual kingdom was adopted.

During a turbulent period in Nguni and Sesotho-Tswana history known as the Mfecane, Mzilikazi regiment, initially numbering 500 soldiers, moved west towards the present-day city of Pretoria, where they founded a settlement called Mhlahlandlela. They then moved northwards in 1838 into present-day Zimbabwe where they overwhelmed the Rozvi, eventually carving out a home now called Matabeleland and encompassing the west and south-west region of the country. In the course of the migration, large numbers of conquered local clans and individuals were absorbed into the Ndebele nation, adopting the Ndebele language and culture. Historically the assimilated people came from the Southern Ndebele, Swazi, Sotho-Tswana, and amaLozwi/Rozvi ethnic groups

all4naija: Okay rodeo! Ride on dude! Which are the African nations that took aid from Apartheid SA?

If South Africa did not wish to become completely cut off from the rest of the African continent, she had to sustain associations with it, starting, of course, with mutual economic support. Vorster persisted with this strategy and built good relationships with a number of independent African states.

In 1967, Vorster proffered technological and fiscal counsel gratis to any African state prepared to receive it, asserting that absolutely no political strings were attached. He gave great attention to financial facets, aware of the fact that many African states were very run-down and would require financial aid in spite of their rebuffing of South Africa's racial principles. Malawi and Lesotho were the first countries to enter discussions with the NP government. Angola and Mozambique soon followed.

One of the first steps to take in initiating dealings was to convene with the heads of these African countries. Here Vorster worked decidedly contrary to Verwoerd's policies. Where Verwoerd had declined to get together and engage in dialogue with such leaders as Abubakar Tafawa Balewa of Nigeria in 1962 and Kenneth Kaunda of Zambia in 1964, Vorster, in 1966, met with the heads of the states of Lesotho, Swaziland and Botswana. There was still mutual suspicion, however, particularly after Vorster's denunciation of the Lusaka Manifesto in 1969. Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland stayed candid critics of apartheid, but they hinged on South Africa's economic aid. This was inclusive of pecuniary credit and the fact that many natives from these states worked the South African mines.

Malawi was the first country not on South African borders to accept South African aid. She identified the monetary benefits of such a deal, for there were also many Malawians working in South African mines. In 1967, the two states delineated their political and economic relations, and, in 1969, Malawi became the only country at the assembly which did not sign the Lusaka Manifesto. In 1970, Malawian President Hastings Banda made his first and most successful official stopover in South Africa.

Associations with Mozambique followed suit and were sustained after that country won its sovereignty in 1975. Angola was also granted South African loans. Other countries which formed relationships with South Africa were Liberia, Côte d'Ivoire, Madagascar, Mauritius, Gabon, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo), Ghana and the Central African Republic. These African states criticised apartheid (more than ever after South Africa's denunciation of the Lusaka Manifesto), but fiscal reliance on South Africa, together with fear of her armed potency, resulted in their forming the aforementioned ties.

all4naija: Why do you think SA is also not a filthy mess?

all4naija: Look at this braggart with little information at his disposal. Are you not talking about SA that lives on USA and UK aids? Please, your HIV/AIDS assisted projects are in shamble since USA reduced such aid.

You aren't helping matter here. You are only making mockery of yourself.

Coma_Berenices:

Don't matter what I or anyone else believes. What matters is the money America pours on Nigeria. Still you can't get it right. Never been a nation. Never will be. Just a cluster of ghetto-minded people hatin on progress.

all4naija: That is a point without explanations. I would like you explain it with evidences.

all4naija: Why do you doubt it?

all4naija: You know nothing about Nigeria, my friend. It is SA that needs to thank Nigeria and their fate,if not, they would still be walloping in slavery till today.

You are miss-educated about Nigeria, lady.

all4naija: The Nigerian who wrote the sh*t is as deluded as you are. There is no doubt about that.

However, there is nothing worth talking about of blacks in SA. They contributed nothing good to the development of that nation. So, without white people in that country it will be far worse than SOMALIA!

Thanks to the white people of South African society.

PAGAN 9JA:


THat does not prove they are mixed. It only means that since they live on the same territory they got similar lingusitic influences. As for the features, they got that for the same reason the Khoisan adapted it.

CAMEROONPRIDE: Ezeagu you are making a terrible mistake, because we Have people mixed with white that doesn't mean African in general are mixed..saying xhosa are the result of Bantu-San is false, misleading...ask any xhosa he will tell u he is Bantu, sane with Zulu, they didn't mix that much with San , if that was the case San would have disappeared because Bantu were way more numerous....

Beside xhosa existed before the current location so how come xhosa suddenly=xhosa+Bantu

Xhosa-speaking peoples have inhabited coastal regions of southeastern Africa since before the sixteenth century. The members of the ethnic group that speaks Xhosa refer to themselves as the amaXhosa and call their language isiXhosa, while the language is most commonly known as "Xhosa" in English.

Almost all languages with clicks are Khoisan languages and the presence of clicks in Xhosa demonstrates the strong historical interaction with its Khoisan neighbours. An estimated 15% of the vocabulary is of Khoekhoe (Khoisan) origin