bigx:

Visit http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ddb/ for your peugeot manuals. Select English, Select Car Model and select the Car Year. Hope that helps

bigx:

Visit http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ddb/ for your peugeot manuals. Select English, Select Car Model and select the Car Year. Hope that helps

omamokta: @ Ikenna, thanks very much for your advice. I ve gone through other peoples contribution but it seems mine is different cos i ve changed the air filter element even before coming to Nairaland to complain. The Anti-Pollution-Fault still appears and the fuel consumption is very high. Is there any good workshop in Abuja you can direct me to please.

omamokta: Hi,my ride is a 406 (PRESTIGE), EW10 Engine, it has not given me any problem whatsever since i bought it. Inshort, with a three quater tank it takes me to the eastern part of the country from Abuja. Of late, i was moving when i heard a beep, it showed a warning on the dash board "ANTI POLLUTION FAULT, which disappeared till about last week when i wanted to travel, it started showing regularly, i went to my mechanic, he serviced the injector, changed the plugs, change oil and filter, timing belt and so on. It stopped for that day, as i was travelling, the check engine sign kept appearing and disappearing, inshort i bought two full tanks of fuel before getting to the east, when i came back to abuja, i went to my mechanic and we went to pit cos am suspecting the exhaust pipe might be leaking, we noticed one of the pots is leaking, which the panel beater fixed but to my suprise, the ANTI POLLUTION FAULT comes on every time my car is started and my fuel is going down fast. Two days ago, i went to a peugeot dealer, after diagonizing the car, they listed alot things to be changed, these are things i ve changed about a week before. From my observation, they are not competent cos i dont see what concerns gear box mounting with ANTI POLLUTION FAULT. Please nairalanders where do i take this my ride to in abuja and the problem will be solved asap. thanks.

omamokta: @ Ikenna, thanks brother, i wouldnt mind waiting for you to get less busy. Just like you said, i was discussing with a mechanic on saturday, he mentioned the O2 sensor. He said his customer's car had a similar problem and he fixed it by changing the O2 Sensor but the problem is, he is busy as well. It seems people that know how to fix this do not have time. I love this ride and do anything to fix it. It has served me and am still much in love with it.

Ikenna351: I met a lovely Lady Lion owner today (charming is an understatement). What really impressed me was that she knew some of the technical terms used and would complete them for me while trying to say them. A quality most ladies lack, including some men. Meaning she pays attention to her car. Thumbs up!

Anyway, the issue with her Lion is 1st degree "Excessive Fueling". Pronounced black smoke even at idle. Unfortunately, I didn't drive to work today (Fuel Scarcity in Abuja is something else). So I had no tools to check some components that would cause such issue. I had only the DMM. Lucky her, there was no visible vacuum line on the engine. Meaning, less or no headache on vacuum leak menace.

As i tried to test the o2 sensor harness with the DMM, i found something weird. The o2 is the universal 4-wire o2 sensor. Meaning, two wires are for the sensor heater, the other two for the signal and ground wire. I found it weird because the four wires were reading 12+. The value of the signal wire, generally, should give 0.70-64 mv (Millivolts) when connected to the sensor, but would read higher (like 1 volts) when disconnected from the sensor. One of the 2 wires for the sensor heater is supposed to read 12+, only when the ignition is switched on. But it was constantly reading 12+ even when the ignition is off. Weird, isn't it? Unless someone is telling me thats how the harness of the o2 in that car were factory connected to work that way, which i will still find weird. Why? Because thats the same o2 sensor in my car as well. So I know perfectly how that sensor should be connected. In this case, the sensor harness is needed to be sorted out first, before even checking to know if the sensor is still ok or not. To do that, i will need to check the continuity of the signal wire from the ECU wiring connector. But where do i have the time? Sad face! And most importantly, I will need the car electrical manual to know which of the relays that feeds the o2 heater 12+. From that end, i would know what went wrong. Also will need to check how good are the sensor 2 grounds from their sources. These could take days to sort out, due to work. But the fastest means of knowing what is wrong is simply by scanning the car. Unfortuntaly, i have a scanner that doesn't work, not even once. Again, sad face! If my scanner was working, all her nightmares would have been dealt with within 5 mins of plugging it in.

I felt so sad and bad that i couldn't give her the help she needed. Reason for bringing this up here is for Peugeot owners to be carefull who you open your bonnet for or who you give your car to fix for you, especially when it has to do with electrics. I don't know why those o2 sensor wires were giving wrong values. It could be wrong connections, it could be not, but i do know that something is wrong with the harness or the o2, because even when i disconnected the sensor while the engine was idling, there was no change, even though the engine temperature was almost at it optimal temperature. She has no option than to take it elsewhere for scanning. Well, the issues may not only be the o2 or could be. Just have to wait till she pull the error codes.

But one more thing that baffles me is that with the black smoke emitting from the exhaust pipe, the check engine light was not lit. Seriously, strange!

Ikenna.

t-die:


You didn't tell the house which Peugeot model the Lady had.... You must really have been lovestruck today... :-).
Also, this might be a moot point now, but did her CEL illuminate at all on engine start before going off..?? I ask this question because quite a few naughty car destroyers aka mechanics are fond of disconnecting the CEL, Airbag-, ABS- and other dashboard lights when they've been triggered. Its very difficult to imagine a lion not throwing up a CEL on black smoke pouring from the exhaust. My 307 is so sensitive that just a spark plug change will trigger the CEL light if the incorrect grade plugs are used (without any abnormal exhaust fumes).

ymb1: Dear All,

Just new to the lion family but have been consistently visiting the forum since I have made up my mind to jump from Honda into Peugeot and I have quite learnt a lot from the forum (Ikenna351, BigX, and others).

I am trying to conclude a buy of 407 2006 model with EW12 auto tiptronic transmission engine. I have done the physical check (body, interior, door, windows and physical sighting of the engine, ect) and was certified.

My sincere request from the family is to kindly help list what to look out for when doing the test driving of the car by weekend. The test driving is to be done from Katsina to Zaria (about 300KM).

Thanks & God bless.

Yunus

Ikenna351: For 206, 307 and 207 who do not know the location of their MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor) on their engines or what it looks like, find the attached.

Meanwhile, if you are having unsteady or flat idling, it maybe time to clean that MAP. Find a related issue treated here below:

http://my206xr..com/2010/05/peugeot-206-map-sensor.html

Ikenna.

Ikenna351:

Since you are not a beginner, i believe you can evaluate the car well or detect an anomally when test driving it. Anything you see or feel that is not proper, don't hesitate to ask questions to whoever is selling the car to you, right there. By the time you fire him several questions non-stop, he will come clean with you, if he was hiding something. No one would want to be caught in a lie! Besides, from his resonses to your questions, you will know if he is hiding something or not. Just try and get the car History as much as you can. It helps a lot.

Before you start your evaluation, let someone start the car for you. Listen to know if its hard starting. If it takes so many cranks to start, then something is wrong. Then as soon as the engine starts, go to the car tail and observe the exhaust pipe opening at the car tail. Ask the person to rev the car hard for you. At that time, look out for smoke. If you see blue smoke, run for your dear life. If you see black smoke, its fixable, but can you deal with it? What if there was a wrong connection that is causing the black smoke? How can you reverse the wrong connection when you don't know which of the sensors or components were connected wrongly? I would advice you to pass. If its white smoke, pick race and don't look back! Head gasket replacement job is something you don't want to go into for a car you just bought. Unless the weather is cold and its the first startting in the morning. Yes, it will be emitting sometime like steam at idle, after the car has idled for a minute or so, in that case.

The Tiptronic Automatic adaptive gearbox in 407, will likely not give you the AL4 issues. So i believe you are not new with the auto trans, since you have been in Japanese mobile world. But that doesn't mean is not prone to unexpected failure like everyother other auto trans. Just try and enjoy it while it last. By the way, whats the speed? 4-speed or 6-speed?

I can't think of any other thing now. But one thing i assure you is that the driving experience and comfort, during the test driving, will be defferent from what you have been getting from Asian cars. Thats one thing i bet you they can't take away from Peugeot, no matter how unreliable everyone says Peugeots are. You will findout, as you are test driving. Goodluck.

Ikenna.

big spif: Hi Gods-son
Please can you give me an idea how much to budget when buying the same type of your 406 Prestige here in Abuja? thanks and hope ur enjoying your lion

Ikenna351:

bigx


Thanks for directing us to this site. Everyone can now have his/her Peugeot car owners manual. No more guess work.


Ikenna.