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Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by hero70(m): 11:00pm On Sep 17, 2012
And these signs shall follow them that believe: in my name shall they cast out devils, they shall speak with new tongues, they shall take up serpents (snakes), and if they drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them, they shall lay hands upon the sick and they shall recover. (Mark 16:17-18)
this verse is totally unscientific and unlogical there is no any christian or human being who can pass the above test even the pope.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by linearity: 11:00pm On Sep 17, 2012
Niflheim: the bible claims that there was evening and morning before the sun and moon were created(false)it claims that the sun stopped moving for josua(false,it does not move in the first place).

Are you sure you are not the one confused?

Gen 1:3....light was created.....note singular.
Gen 1:5....first mention of evening and morning.
Gen 1:14...Lights were created...note plural.

I will also believe that, you have enough science in you not to confuse Gen 1:3 with Gen 1:14...a clue...in just earth's milky way...there are more than 600 Suns.......and in some cases more than 100 millions, it depend on your definition of Sun.

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Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by Tolaaaaannni(f): 11:03pm On Sep 17, 2012
Comparing science and religion is like comparing apples and oranges. Science has nothing to do with religion, and

religion has nothing to do with science.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by linearity: 11:10pm On Sep 17, 2012
Niflheim: @joagbaje,so you are finally admitting that your bible was not inspired by god,but by the understanding of the illiterates at the time right?

The Bible is inspire words of God to mortal men, who must then use their limited vocabulary, language and limitations to write and pass along what they have received. Since the Bible was not originally written in English but translated from other languages. Just like you may have realized, there are some words that do not have perfect substitutes across all languages...so when translating from one language to other care was taken to chose the closet word that would convey the same meanings within the context.

e.g. If got a revelation in English for 'Earth is spherical' my guess is, there is no singular Yoruba word that perfectly depicts 'spherical' so you might end up translating it as 'round' or 'circle' in Yoruba....within the context, people in Yoruba would understand what you are saying....but placing it by itself...round is not the same as 'spherical' and neither is 'circle' the same as spherical.....spherical have the concept of depth which the other two does not necessarily have.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 11:11pm On Sep 17, 2012
lekkie073: this argument will never end....but in my own opinion, science has made d world an easier place to live. what has d bible done? enslave its followers, thou shall not kill.....samson killed, moses killed, david killed. if all of them can be forgiven, then whats d essence of the commandment? how can someone say rain covered the whole earth at a point in time? if it is so, then indians should have a back up storh so also china, aztec empire, to name a few ancient civilizations. if at all such a rain fell, then it probably fell within the limited area known to d writer. that we are all on dis cyber-spectrum is evident of the powers of science....

Bros, people are still killing each other till tomorrow. It's not the sin that God is concerned bout, it's what follows sin that matters. I'm sure you can read up the effect of their sinful acts. You don't expect God to kill sinners immediately, or else all of us won't be alive today, hence we have diverse diseases and sicknesses today to plague those who indulge in sin. I don't know if you get what I mean.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 11:15pm On Sep 17, 2012
mkmyers45: Geographically and Logically the Isrealites could never have crossed the Red Sea..1. the cattle (cow,horse,donkey etc) of egypt were already dead..if indeed they did any crossing it was the Sea of Reeds

Chairman, the plague that affected the livestocks in Egypt that time did affected only the flocks of the Egyptians. It's just like when the Destructive Angel killed all the firstborns in Egypt and spare the Israelites. The Israelites lived in another part of Egypt named Goshen.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by TerryCarr(m): 11:15pm On Sep 17, 2012
odehaj: silly,the blacks born in those places hav not become white.
it takes thousands of years to change angry
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by TerryCarr(m): 11:19pm On Sep 17, 2012
kpolli:

If science was ryt, all apes wud have evolved to man and the evolution cycle won't have stopped with man. . . .
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 11:23pm On Sep 17, 2012
Pukkah:

Does that include the part that says women should be sent to the forest while menstruating? The one that prescribes death for adultery, for gathering sticks on the sabbath and for cheeking your parents?

God is a personal experience and not contained in any single, paint-with-the-same-brush book.

Majority of what was quoted "wrongly" as you perceived in the Bible basically sprang from religious belief. God didn't create religion, in fact He dislikes it when we believe religion is a way to get to Him. No. I will personally recommend one of the daily bread in the bible for you. Proverbs has 31 chapters, so you have a chapter to a day. Read and think on it, and you'll record positive changes about life.

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Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by linearity: 11:26pm On Sep 17, 2012
lekkie073: this argument will never end....but in my own opinion, science has made d world an easier place to live. what has d bible done? enslave its followers, thou shall not kill.....samson killed, moses killed, david killed. if all of them can be forgiven, then whats d essence of the commandment? how can someone say rain covered the whole earth at a point in time? if it is so, then indians should have a back up storh so also china, aztec empire, to name a few ancient civilizations. if at all such a rain fell, then it probably fell within the limited area known to d writer. that we are all on dis cyber-spectrum is evident of the powers of science....

...but aren't you ignoring the fact that science have taken much more of its killings as well...like atomic bomb, nuclear bomb...The Prime Minister of Israel came of TV the other day and start rallying the world against Iran...and there are some rumors that he might strike Iran in anytime...all because of some scientific developments in Iran and he is going to use science to strike them as well.

Hope you saw the cynicism in my comments...my point is Science and religion are both forces of good and evil, it all boils down to the individual(s).

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Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 11:28pm On Sep 17, 2012
lekkie073:
solomon was the wisest man. if at any ooint in time it was expedient for him to walk on water, he would have done so by virtue of his knowledge. come to india and see disciplined hindus suspend themselves in the air....walking on water is minor compared to beating the law of gravity

Have they also being able to stop the mouth of lions, or devise an preservation method that can keep maize for 14 years without getting spoilt, or walked inside the fire of a fiery furnace? The truth is that what people believes in works for them. But all things are limited. Only God is unlimited.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 11:37pm On Sep 17, 2012
Heathen: Science obviously wins. It is continually reviewed and updated, this, imho, is why science rules and the bible drools

The reason why science could not simply explain what's responsible for the size of rain drops from time to time, why it rains in some regions and snow in other regions, how a simple green caterpillar changes to a winged colourful butterfly overnight, the origin of wind, or why all the perennial crops trees like orange tree fruit at the same time, why science cannot design ba camera with the same resolution as the human eye...I can go on and on. Have you ever considered why there are natural things and artificial ones? Come on give glory to the Creator of nature.

Bros, Science doesn't have all the answers.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by Sciencs(m): 11:40pm On Sep 17, 2012
I dnt tink there's any nid of arguement as far as ds issue is concern.
Here is a logic questn 2settle it once n 4 all
"Both Bible n Quran call us human being...while Science simply call us homo-sapien(Advanced animal)"
now wic one is accurate?

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Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damoobaba: 11:43pm On Sep 17, 2012
Niflheim: the bible claims that all the cattle in egypt were killed by hail stones,only for them to miraculously appear again and be killed by hailstones(false)!!!
You agents of the devil condemned to the pit of hell.Tell ♍ε̲̣̣̣̥ what science has to say on ♓☺ω τ̣̣ђё ground walk on came into beeing.♓☺ω abt miracles,revelation alredy playing out etc.I rebuke you i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̅ the name of Jesus.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by chic91(f): 11:45pm On Sep 17, 2012
mkmyers45: Pastor Jo stop lying o..NASA has proven no such thing
. y do we av 365& a quarter (1/4) days per year

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Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 11:48pm On Sep 17, 2012
lekibraky: Bible doesn't really have scientific knowledge coa it's full of words of man and the accurate ones are the words of God imagine bible science saying ti prevent plague against leprosy we should use blood to sprinkle the house leveticus 12- 1:5 bible science says the world will perish in Hebrew 1-10 the same bible says in Ecclesiastical 78-69 that the world will perish imagine bible telling us we can eat all types of fruits on the trees but can u eat datura wild berry plants and some other poisonous fruits in conclusion the bible is not the words of God alone but man cis the God I know Neva make scientific errors I av many flaws of the bible but which makes me belief it's not the words of God

And who tells you sprinkling of the blood doesn't work? Maybe because you're not a believer. As for the fruits, God gave us all fruits to eat in Genesis 1:30. He only had to caution the Israelites because of their greediness and affection for food (they have the world largest restaurant and farm today), and their gullibility to idolatry thus the reason for those commandments.

But please don't eat poisonous plants o!
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by odehaj: 11:50pm On Sep 17, 2012
TerryCarr: it takes thousands of years to change angry
"No one in the world can change truth, what we can &should do is seek it and if found serve it"~Maxillian Kolbe(Polish missionary in world war 2)
Scientific books (medicine,Engineering,agriculture etc) are reviewed to meet new challenges.qu'ra,book of mohmoh,etc are begging for reviewing. because, they cannot fit in present
civilisation e.g,stoning,flogging,jihad,if you divorce your wife 3times &u still want her back,someone will have to marry her &sleep with her for one night b4 u can marry her again islamically its like that,but what of HIV?.The Bible doesn't need reviewing,it just there forever
,it came out b4 d quran,momo etc.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by mvwealth: 11:59pm On Sep 17, 2012
my guy short up...d same text book u readin and studied was writen by a man with one head....d same tin u belive stil told u dat we blacks originated from apes....so becareful..have u asked urself wu created dose apes and d stars u talkin abt....y hav science not created human being...dey borow dark powers to decive others...d bible said we are created in GODS IMAGE and LIKENESS dat means if GOD WAS A GOD INVENTOR we are also bound to invent dose not neccesarily mean dat we woumt respect his words...weda u like it or not....dere is a supreme bein dont try to contend so u wount find urself in d pit of helll......growup and dont read devilih text books dat we corupt ur memory..thanks...d earth is d lord and fulness dere off
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 12:01am On Sep 18, 2012
Bandy10: The bible is the most unreliable,inconsistent book man has ever invented.Can the bible apologist reconcile the story of creation in Genesis 1 and 2 why the differnce in the sequence of creation. The bible tells us that stars are specks in heaven~wrong.The bible says that world is flat~wrong.The bible says that the xtian god created light before the sun~wrong.The bible says that Adam and Eve had two male children how did procreation happen then?The bible says that he created man by moulding clay and gave it breath~wrong.The bible created plant before sunlight~wrong.Can the bible apologolist reconcile the birth of Christ as written in the book of Luke and Mathew.Lastly without science and scientist the world will in darkness where superstitious and dogmatism will reign

The bible was written by inspiration from God. Read Genesis chapter 2 and see the reality of what God spoke in Chapter 1.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 12:09am On Sep 18, 2012
Heathen: Two thousand years ago, it was said 'the endtime arriveth soon', two thousand years later, we still await this endtime, two thousand years into the future, we will still be wait for it.

The endtime proclaimed thousands of years ago and till now talks about individual end times. No one needs to preach it that the world will come to an end when the whole Antarctica melts and Sun runs out of power. These are words of Jesus Christ. But still, the endtime is near..where will you end up, Heaven or Hell?
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 12:14am On Sep 18, 2012
rhymz: THE CONTRADICTORY CREATION ACCOUNTS
Genesis 1:25-27
ANIMALS WERE CREATED BEFORE HUMANS
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.
HUMANS WERE CREATED BEFORE ANIMALS
Genesis 2:18-19
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
MAN AND WOMEN WERE SIMULTENEOUSLY CREATED
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
MAN WAS CREATED FIRST, THEN ANIMALS AND FINALLY WOMAN FROM MAN'S RIBS
Genesis 2:18-22
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
The bible is a 4cking joke when put under serious scrutiny of logic no wonder it requires its users to leave their brains in the hands of those phoney Pastors Reverends, Bishops, Prophets and co lest you your eyes will be open to jokes of contridictions rife in the bible. The bible is the greatest lie ever sold.

You failed to distinguish between CREATE and MAKE or FORM. Everything we see today were existing in the spirit form in Chapter one, including man (male and female), the spirit became a visible entity when God made their respective body from soil..
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by Roon9(m): 12:18am On Sep 18, 2012
Joagbaje:

That was the understanding of the writer then. And that was what scientist taught in that generation. One the was clear . The sun stood still for a day. It is scientifically proven that a day is missing.

Ppo always try 2 disprove D̶̲̥̅̊ bible ƃųt wt they end up doing is infact proving it.... Take job as ӑ case study, dia was ӑ tym wen job said sulfur flew from beneath D̶̲̥̅̊ earth. Now pause 4 ӑ minute. Sulfur is indeed found beneath D̶̲̥̅̊ earth ƃųt D̶̲̥̅̊ issue is bak then no1 knew Τђåł n ur Şŏ◦ called science had 2 wait som thousand years 2 prove wt has bin proven.
Now dis wil blow U̶̲̥̅̊ off. Remembr in D̶̲̥̅̊ book ☀̤̣̈̇f rev wen D̶̲̥̅̊ bible said somfin abou ӑ beast receivin power n al D̶̲̥̅̊ earth witnessing it D̶̲̥̅̊ same tym. Tynk ppo, bak then iy was practically impossible 4 ӑ whole country 2 witness an even @ once ƃųt now as D̶̲̥̅̊ bible rytly pointed out, it won't ß difficult 4 us now since we ve al sort ☀̤̣̈̇f cable n wireless connections.
D̶̲̥̅̊ last tyn any1 shud try 2 do is disprovin Gods law cos U̶̲̥̅̊ wil infact jus end up proving them..... Ravi zecharias
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 12:22am On Sep 18, 2012
rhymz: The Bible has inconsistent accounts of who created the heavens and the earth. The Old Testament of the Bible is clear that God created everything alone. The New Testament, however, inserts Jesus into the stories and says that God and Jesus created everything together. So which part of the Bible is correct about who was involved with creation: the Old or the New Testament?
THE OLD TESTAMENT
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself.
THE NEW TESTAMENT
John 1:6-10
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
1 Corinthians 8:6
Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom all things are and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and through whom we exist.
This Bible inconsistency is arguably created by differences of theology: the Jews were strict monotheists while Christianity which is Pauline Theology introduced the new idea of a "Trinity," three persons that are also one person. .lol. .i.e
1+1+1=1according to today's Christian theology.
Some Christians try to resolve the inconsistency by saying that references to a single person are consistent with the trinity and so do not contradict later references to two or three persons. The fact remains, though, that the Old Testament never mentions Jesus' involvement in creation and that's rather an important detail to leave out, isn't it?
That's why these Bible verses are inconsistent. Some say that God acted alone when creating the heavens and earth while others say God acted with Jesus to create the heavens and earth. They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong. Is this a legitimate Bible inconsistency or contradiction, or can the various accounts of who created the heavens and the earth be harmonized?
If you think you can resolve this Bible inconsistency, explain how — but your solution cannot add anything new that's not already in the stories and cannot leave out any details that the Bible provides.

The Trinity is a mystery that can't be understood by human knowledge. Don't ask me why. In Genesis Chapter 1, the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) was hovering, and God (God the Father) said... But when it comes to creation of man, we God the Father calling on some people "let us make man in our own image". That's why we're triune in nature...need I say more? The Trinity were present at creation.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by damilarelr(m): 12:31am On Sep 18, 2012
hero70: And these signs shall follow them that believe: in my name shall they cast out devils, they shall speak with new tongues, they shall take up serpents (snakes), and if they drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them, they shall lay hands upon the sick and they shall recover. (Mark 16:17-18)
this verse is totally unscientific and unlogical there is no any christian or human being who can pass the above test even the pope.

Those signs are meant for Believers, not Christians. But I can tell you, there are believers, so dont say it's impossible. You too can become a believer.

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Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by truthislight: 12:54am On Sep 18, 2012
mkmyers45: He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball (Dur) into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. (Isaiah 22:18)

good,

2D or 3D
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by truthislight: 1:06am On Sep 18, 2012
Delafruita:
i have always suspected that you have poor comprehension skills.now i can confirm that its getting worse.someone claimed that the bible explained the water table long before vitruvius explained it.i decided to show him that the books of job,ecclesiastes and amos weren't written 1600years ago.they were actually written after vetrivius had explained the water table.hence the bible incorporated a phenomenon that had already been explained.how is that derailing the thread?
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by truthislight: 1:17am On Sep 18, 2012
Delafruita:
i have always suspected that you have poor comprehension skills.now i can confirm that its getting worse.someone claimed that the bible explained the water table long before vitruvius explained it.i decided to show him that the books of job,ecclesiastes and amos weren't written 1600years ago.they were actually written after vetrivius had explained the water table.hence the bible incorporated a phenomenon that had already been explained.how is that derailing the thread?

if what you are contesting is that the bible was wrong i would have understood your point, but no, not that, but that the date is right but the dating is the problem, meanwhile the op is not about bible dating but about accuracy of bible on scientific matters

The rest of what you said is not my problem but says alot about who you are and i will not follow you to that end.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by truthislight: 1:24am On Sep 18, 2012
mkmyers45:

He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball (Dur) into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. (Isaiah 22:18)

are you saying that the spelling of ball and sphere are the same in the OT?

Educate me.

Or you are saying that they should have use the word ball instead of circle?

But we had wish that you get a hebrew word for sphere befor then.

Any way, certain translatons used the word sphere if it will pls, you.

For an honest mind the sense is that the earth is round.
Peace
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by truthislight: 1:26am On Sep 18, 2012
mkmyers45:

Ok I have created a thread for just you and i...

Here: https://www.nairaland.com/1050520/truthislight-come-show-us-truth

o! Am just seeing this now.

I have been very busy.

I will attend to it any moment from now.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by jango77(m): 1:33am On Sep 18, 2012
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by truthislight: 1:47am On Sep 18, 2012
mkmyers45: Pi is 3.0? * "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it about. (I Kings 7, 23)"

This would show that a diameter of ten cubits leads to a circumference of thirty cubits, yielding a value of 3.0 for the mathematical unit of Pi -- a value used in calculating everything from how to manufacture your coffee cup, to how to manage the pixels in your monitor, to the physics of the orbits of the satellites that give us the eye on the weather as well as tranfer data, etc. Well, the value is actually a transcendental number that starts 3.14159 . . .

i dont see the relevance of this.

The word negligible does not exist where you are.
Re: Is Science More Accurate Than The Bible? by truthislight: 1:57am On Sep 18, 2012
Freksy:

My friend Delafruita, are you sure you really understand the meaning of 30 BC? It's difference from 30th Century BC.

Marcus Vitruvius Pollio was born c. 80–70 BC, died after c. 15 BC. He was a man of 1st Century BC. A man of 2nd Century BC was decades older than him.

Moses wrote the book of Job between 1657 and1473 BC, but you claim it was written in about 5th Century (c. 500 )BC. Remember, 1 Century = 100 years; 5th Century BC = 500 BC

Since Vitruvius explained the water Cycle in about 30 BC, and Moses wrote the book of Job in about 5th Century BC (about 500 BC), according to you. Therefore, Job's explanation of the water Cycle predated Vitruvius's by at least 500 - 30 = 470 years. Remember also that the time Job explained the water Cycle predated the time Moses wrote it. The truth is, Vitruvius did not even exist when Job explained the water cycle.

Below is the actual time the book of Job was written.

Name of Book: Job
Writer: Moses
Place Written: Wilderness
Writing Completed (B.C.E.): c. 1473
Time Covered (B.C.E.): Over 140 years between 1657 and 1473 B.C.E.

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