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Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by chucky234(m): 5:58pm On Sep 30, 2012
Make una dey on top of internet dey ask wetin Nigeria don achieve,whether if una join hands to make dis country good na bad thing.
January to December,Year to Year all of us dey here dey laff,fight,rub minds and rejoice like one family yet nobody fit help a fellow Nlander.
Jobless people full here for NL yet some Nlanders na oga for their office but to give job to another Nlanders na wahala.
Inspire dey sell motors to Nlanders for same price wey showrooms dey sell after dem wait for weeks to get the motor from oyinbo land, Seun dey charge Nlanders N10,000 daily to advertise something wey assurance no dey say dem go get buyer wey go cover dat 10k.
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Tell me how dis country wan take good if we no help each other,Igbos are successful in trade because dem dey help each other and we suppose take a cue from the Igbos.
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All those plenty grammar and analysis wey Shymmex and Tolaaaaaaani dey knack na waste of time,Shymmex own no too dey pain me because him na fake Nigerian.

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Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by miss9ja(f): 5:59pm On Sep 30, 2012
sessydoo:

U re welcome Miss 9ja but i observed na only guys dey welcome u on board o, make u shine ur eyes ooo But seriously i think Seun and his entire crew should have a way of welcoming new people on board. Dont think its a bad idea really.....jez my opinion.
All d same sweet, u re most welcomed!

Lol where re †ђξ gerlz?

Well I'm jex here Ť☺ learn from d intelligent people in here, I heard ther re many of em in here....thanx though fwend

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Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Tolaaaaannni(f): 6:00pm On Sep 30, 2012
shymexx:

Religion is the foundation that defines who a person is... And it enhances a person's consciousness because that's how you communicate with your maker/supreme being... We control our own reality and the process is done through our consciousness - with religion playing a vital role in that subconsciously...

Europe leaped to where it's today on the back of its religion/consciousness - trans-Atlantic slave trade... Arabs became 'superior' to Africans because of their religion, and the enslavement of black through Zanzibar... Hence, why they treat us as inferior beings... Asia has been able to achieve a lot because of the higher level of thinking/consciousness their religion gives them...

Your mind/consciousness controls everything you do... Ethnic background without higher spirituality, is just like being BLACK with no connection to Africa...

Let's not derail the thread - I'm off to get ready for the NFL.... grin


I have so many questions on what you wrote up there, but I will release you this time and let you watch your game thing. But keep in mind there is more to a person's Identity than just religion, hence the slaves had their own religion before they were kidnapped and sold, african religion did not stop the colonization of Nigeria. There is more to the world viewing us as inferior than just religion, on most part it has to do with the color of our skin. But thats a discussion for another day.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Abbycite(m): 6:00pm On Sep 30, 2012
ehie: unfortunately...nothing,as other nations that started the race with us i.e Malaysia,Ghana have progressed ,we have regressed in all meaningful developments
however we have progressed in a self destructive manner, corruption,unemployment,ethnocentric division,comatose infrastructure, vision less leadership etc

Stop comparing Nigeria with those countries u mentioned....d pace at which u build a bungalow is faster than d pace at which u build a skyscraper...

I tell u those countries cannot survive an hour what we face on a daily basis here...
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Sep 30, 2012
shymexx:



Europe leaped to where it's today on the back of its religion/consciousness - trans-Atlantic slave trade... Arabs became 'superior' to Africans because of their religion, and the enslavement of black through Zanzibar... Hence, why they treat us as inferior beings... Asia has been able to achieve a lot because of the higher level of thinking/consciousness their religion gives them...

Your mind/consciousness controls everything you do... Ethnic background without higher spirituality, is just like being BLACK with no connection to Africa...

Let's not derail the thread - I'm off to get ready for the NFL.... grin
Lie Mister ,Europe did not get to where it is due to religion,but tru science,and the industrial revultion,slave trade was abolished in part because new technology ...na wa oh,u read history upside down
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Sep 30, 2012
Every country has her own flaws. Corruption obviously has been eating our asses but it doesn't mean I should start posting nonsense about my country on the internet for the world to see.. We've got peeps from other countries registered on NL and y'all mutherfuckers are posting sh#t. i'm a nigerian. And i'm proud to be. Has it occurred to you we're this smartest black africans? The system hasn't crushed us but made us soldiers. God has his reasons for these drawbacks, and I believe we'll get there.. Happy birthday in advance Naija..
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Etumgbe(m): 6:02pm On Sep 30, 2012
Boko haram and kidnapping

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Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:03pm On Sep 30, 2012
shymexx:

I'm out here educating young Nigerians about the essence of being a Nigerian, and how can help our country in future... I've got a decent networking thing out here about educating foreign born Nigerians about their Nigerian-ness...

I contribute in my own little way to fight against Western imperialism/extreme capitalism agenda against Nigeria/Africa...

Right now, I'm too young to have any impact on the way things are in Nigeria and I don't live in Nigeria - but I've got a couple of extended family members who live in Nigeria and I help them in setting up business ventures etc.. That indirectly contributes to Nigeria's GDP...

However, I've got different things mapped out for Nigeria in my field(infotech), and I'll unleash them in the next couple of years...

What have you contributed to Nigeria
Yes i love this kind of challenge, it is unpatrotic to ask what has the nation give to you, rather ask in what way have you imparted on the nation. Are you a students, a police, a doctor, a civil servant, business man, a politician, political office holders, children, parents etc what is your contribution to the nation, i tell you if all of us contributed positively to this nation, Nigeria will be the best place on earth. Now look at bill Gate one of the highest philanthropist in the world today is not the president or even a politician in America yet he is representing American interest greatly. Let think of what we can do for our there Country Nigeria. God bless you all and God bless the federal republic of Nigeria.

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Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by ajf(m): 6:03pm On Sep 30, 2012
manmustwac: The answer is VERY LITTLE or NOTHING!! Part of the problem is a is that a lot of you guys think that kneeling down closing you eyes clasping your hands together and talking to yourself is the best way to help the country progress angry
That thing annoys the heck out of me. Nigerians are just too da.mn religious...
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by mike404(m): 6:05pm On Sep 30, 2012
miss 9ja:

Lol where re †ђξ gerlz?

Well I'm jex here Ť☺ learn from d intelligent people in here, I heard ther re many of em in here....thanx though fwend
You are welcome miss pretty kiss
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by chucky234(m): 6:06pm On Sep 30, 2012
Tolaaaaannni:


I have so many questions on what you wrote up there, but I will release you this time and let you watch your game thing. But keep in mind there is more to a person's Identity than just religion, hence the slaves had their own religion before they were kidnapped and sold, african religion did not stop the colonization of Nigeria. There is more to the world viewing us as inferior than just religion, on most part it has to do with the color of our skin. But thats a discussion for another day.
Shymmex wey be partial Nigerian na him you dey drag identity with since,you just dey waste time and MB at the end nothing come out for inside.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:09pm On Sep 30, 2012
acidtalk: Nothing!
Absolutely Nothing!!!


* No medals and trophies in sports (except for paralympics)

* No ethnic and religious tolerance

* No accountability and willingness to serve amongst leaders.

* No fair justice for the common man

* Only corrupt men aand women are celebrated.

* The voices of the populace irritates the ears of their leaders.

* No hope for the common man.

Nigeria is a FAILED country.
May God have mercy on you if you cant pick out a positive thing about your country after 52 years. You must be blind
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by dangerzone: 6:10pm On Sep 30, 2012
miss 9ja: Sorry guys, I'm new here
wellcome on board, answer the question please
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:10pm On Sep 30, 2012
ehie: Lie Mister ,Europe did not get to where it is due to religion,but tru science,and the industrial revultion,slave trade was abolished in part because new technology ...na wa oh,u read history upside down

My team has not started playing... Let me respond to you and Tolani before I buck off...

Yes, industral revolution made Europe - after pillaging/robbing the African continent off its resources, and getting super rich off the salve trade... And Africans were also the pawns used in building the so-called, industrial revolution... Most of the tunnels and underground in the UK were built by Jamaicans(and that's their most recent achivement)... RELIGION paved the way for the enslavement and colonisation of Africa/Africans - both were SANCTIONED by the CATHOLIC CHURCH... And Europe got its RENAISSANCE with the help of the CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS...

Food for thoughts... wink

*I'm sorry for derailing the thread**

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Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:12pm On Sep 30, 2012
No country made it at 52, not even the USA, UK and Canada. By the time Nigeria is 100. She will surpass even USA and China. But this will not happen until the crop of Nairalanders of today, take a lethal sleeping pill. Have you paid your Tax ?

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Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:13pm On Sep 30, 2012
@shymexx

several intellectuals encouraged secularism with writings advocating religious toleration, like John Locke's A Letter Concerning Toleration (1689) and John Stuart Mill's On Liberty (1859). Enlightenment writers often stressed anticlericalism and attacked the Catholic Church. Several, including Voltaire (1694–1778), said that religion was a good thing for the lower classes, to keep them honest, diligent, and peaceful, an idea that got support from the anti-church violence during the French Revolution. This idea had wide currency in the Muslim world until the Iranian Revolution (1979) showed again that popular religiosity did not always have such orderly effects.

The rise of nation-states and of nationalism encouraged secularism. Except in countries like Poland, Ireland, and former Yugoslavia where religious and nationalist boundaries coincide, nationalism and nation-states have tended to undermine organized religion. Religious loyalties and ideologies were supranational, and religion supported hierarchical relations between genders, toward minorities, and in everyday life, which conflicted with the priorities of the nation. Nationalism provided an ideology for nonreligious loyalties. This accompanied socioeconomic modernization and industrialization, requiring similar workers, similar rules for treating people, and national markets. Nationalism was a secular force, and religion could play only a subordinate role in most nations. In many countries nation-states struggled with church control over schools, law, and social institutions, and generally nation-states won and expanded secular institutions.



ndustrialization, urbanization, and the rising role of economic class groups helped undermine religious ties and promote secular ideologies, whether nationalist, liberal, or socialist. The rising socialist movement was often antireligious. The atheism of Karl Marx (1818–1883), who saw religion as unnecessary in a communist state, became widespread among workers and their supporters.

In mid-nineteenth century England, the terms secularist and secularism were coined by George Holyoake (1817–1906), who founded a secularist society that helped end religious discrimination in parliament and elsewhere. In the late nineteenth century elite ideas were increasingly secular and agnostic, including Charles Darwin (1809–1882) and his "bulldog" Thomas Huxley (1825–1895), the radical literary critics of Russia, and the new field of sociology, with Auguste Comte (1798–1857), Émile Durkheim (1858–1917), Max Weber (1864–1920), and others. Bible criticism, with Germans like Richard Strauss (1864–1949) and Frenchmen like Ernest Renan (1823–1892), undermined faith in established religion. Even an ideological trend that most people in the early twenty-first century find repellent—scientific racism—was predominantly secular. Women's rights movements have been secular in their effect, as all major religions endorsed male control of and superiority to women and denied women rights regarding property, work, political participation, and control of their bodies. In much of the world resistance to women's rights has been primarily based on religious, antisecular, ideas.

Secularism usually endorses the idea found in nationalism, socialism, feminism, and some science, of progress. Darwinism, against the occasional caveats of Darwin, was seen as a story of progress, and was applied to Spencer's "survival of the fittest" in human society. Social Darwinism was intertwined with racism, one of whose offshoots was the eugenics movement, a supposed recipe for race amelioration. Socialism, nationalism, and feminism expected a better future, to be brought by human secular activity. By contrast, religions often saw history as a fall from a golden age, or as a period in which individual salvation was possible only through religion. A better world might only come via a sudden, millennial process. The contrast between traditional Jewish expectations of a messiah and the this-worldly efforts of modern (secular nationalist) Zionists exemplifies this difference.

The period 1848–1914 was the heyday of secularism and of belief in progress in the West, and saw their first rise in the Global South.
Several countries established secular states after major struggles. The papal territories were a major obstacle to Italian unification, which required their conquest and a break with the church, a break not healed until Mussolini's concordat. France experienced many struggles between clericals and anticlericals. French laicisme, more militantly anticlerical than British and American secularism, won out decisively in the 1905 law disestablishing the Catholic Church. In England the Church of England remained established but, partly as a result of struggles by secularist groups, legal restrictions on nonconformists, Jews, and atheists ended, and the established church's power declined.

The United States outlawed federal church establishment in the constitution, and the late nineteenth century saw the rise of new secular cultural trends and even the popularity of agnostics like Walt Whitman (1819–1892) and Robert Ingersoll (1833–1899). In all Western countries public education of children and young adults spread rapidly, and it was increasingly a secular education. In several Western countries, the fight against the Catholic Church was often the key issue in politics. Anticlericalism, with secular implications, became central to politics in several countries, partly because nineteenth-century popes ruled against modern socialist and liberal ideas.

Popular belief and state control over education and welfare became increasingly secular.
http://science.jrank.org/pages/11240/Secularization-Secularism-History-Nature-Secularization-Secularism-1914.html
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Horus(m): 6:13pm On Sep 30, 2012
shymexx:

If Nigerians are those who 'make-up' Nigeria, and Nigeria is a failure, so how do we classify Nigerians then?? Nigeria by itself is just a geographical location for Nigerians - and Nigeria can't do anything without Nigerians...

Religion defines a man's identity... It's a way a man moves higher in his level of consciousness... A man without a religion that defines who he is, is a man without an identity...

When I see Europeans, I see Christianity, and a saviour the looks like them...

When I see Arabs and Persians, I see Islam, and a prophet that looks like them...

When I see Indians, I see Hinduism, and a Krishna that looks like them..

When I see Chinese/Japanese/Koreans etc.., I see Buddhism, and a Buddha that looks like them...

Even South Americans had to create their own religion/identity based on their mix... Combination of native people, African religion, and European religion to create a new way of life for their people...

When I see black Africans, I see a people with no identity trying to fit in anywhere - yet we think we're the best thing since slice bread... It's not surprising that we're stuck at the bottom of every social ladder because we're a people with no principle, no sense of responsibility, and 'a people' trying to fit in everywhere....

Accepting an imported Alien Religion has killed our peoples minds!. The Black/African does not know the consequences of accepting AN ALIEN RELIGION. If a Black/African accepts Judaism and Christianity as his religion, he has accepted the Caucasian as his visible God. The same with Islam, if a Black/African person accepts Al Islam and its many branches as there religion, then it accepts the Desert Arab as his God. That person cannot have power over, or be equal to the Caucasian, or Arab because here, the Caucasian and the Arab has been accepted as the superior power, and this is why trying to obtain liberty and equality in Caucasian or Arab religion or any alien religion is a CRUEL HOAX! If you look at all of the so called Holy Books that our people are into, they all portray the image of someone other than self. There is not a face of Black/African people of any of these imported religions.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by dangerzone: 6:13pm On Sep 30, 2012
alexdidi: May God have mercy on you if you cant pick out a positive thing about your country after 52 years. You must be blind
i dont blame him bro,everything about nigeria seems negative that u cannot even point out a single achievement.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Ndjones(m): 6:14pm On Sep 30, 2012
Tolaaaaannni:

You see, this is what I was talking about. It is your father and grandfather that contributed. What have you personally done for the country Nigeria?? You, Not your mother, father, grandfather, great grandmother, siblings e.t.c but you, other than come to nairaland and criticize the economy.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Rossikk(m): 6:14pm On Sep 30, 2012
Abbycite: Nigeria has achieve nothing and yet people (Bakassi) don't want to join another country...

If Nigeria is not good enough for u, u are free to cross d border to Chad, Niger, Cameroun, Benin or better still jump into d Atlantic ocean and swim abroad...very simple!

I wonder when we will begin to ask ourselves about what we have contributed to d success of Nigeria...

Don't mind them. Ignorant, worthless vagabonds. Nigeria is this and that, yet many of them can
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:14pm On Sep 30, 2012
Tolaaaaannni:
I have so many questions on what you wrote up there, but I will release you this time and let you watch your game thing. But keep in mind there is more to a person's Identity than just religion, hence the slaves had their own religion before they were kidnapped and sold, african religion did not stop the colonization of Nigeria. There is more to the world viewing us as inferior than just religion, on most part it has to do with the color of our skin. But thats a discussion for another day.

It's a big pandora box, but religion plays a vital role... Consciousness defines everything a man is... Science for example would be worthless without consciousness, that's why the higher man gets with his level of consciousness, the more the advancements we see in science... Without us, there's no science - without a TRUE RELIGION, man is doomed for failure... And I'm not surprised at the state of Africa/Nigeria and black people around the world in general - we don't know who we're...
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by DeCleff(m): 6:15pm On Sep 30, 2012
ochukoccna: @ OP,Nigeria has achieved suffering& smiling
Also the current Nigeria is headed for disintegration
It is said a fool@ 40 is a fool forever
What about a fool@ 52? !

My cousin once told me 2yrs ago during Nigeria @ 50 that a fool @ 40 is a fool forever so Nigeria @ 50 is foolish.

So i wonder what he's gonna say this time.

God bless Nigeria

Thunder fire corruption
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Rossikk(m): 6:16pm On Sep 30, 2012
Abbycite: Nigeria has achieve nothing and yet people (Bakassi) don't want to join another country...

If Nigeria is not good enough for u, u are free to cross d border to Chad, Niger, Cameroun, Benin or better still jump into d Atlantic ocean and swim abroad...very simple!

I wonder when we will begin to ask ourselves about what we have contributed to d success of Nigeria...

Don't mind them. Worthless vagabonds. ''Nigeria has achieved nothing'', yet they remain here, when many of them can EASILY pack their things and move to a neighbouring country or even a far-off one, and continue their lives from there. Rubbish.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by ak47mann(m): 6:17pm On Sep 30, 2012
1999 Nigerian constitution need amended is was writing by military men,for the country to move forward a lot of things need to be addressed in the constitution.In supreme court of united state it says in their constitution that states have the power to leave,but till date none want to secede because they believe in USA and it give citizens sense and right of belonging.

These can bring balance in the system and reality check on Nigerian leaders.....
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:17pm On Sep 30, 2012
Nationalism was a secular force, and religion could play only a subordinate role in most nations
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Tolaaaaannni(f): 6:18pm On Sep 30, 2012
shymexx:

It's a big pandora box, but religion plays a vital role... Consciousness defines everything a man is... Science for example would be worthless without consciousness, that's why the higher man gets with his level of consciousness, the more the advancements we see in science... Without us, there's no science - without a TRUE RELIGION, man is doomed for failure... And I'm not surprised at the state of Africa/Nigeria and black people around the world in general - we don't know who we're...

To be honest with you a lot of what you wrote up there makes no sense, well to me at least. You were comparing science and religion. Comparing science and religion is like comparing apples and oranges. They are 2 different things my friend.



* Well I won't apologize for derailing the thread, cause technically the discussion is still related to the topic*
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:22pm On Sep 30, 2012
Horus:
Accepting an imported Alien Religion has killed our peoples minds!. The Black/African does not know the consequences of accepting AN ALIEN RELIGION. If a Black/African accepts Judaism and Christianity as his religion, he has accepted the Caucasian as his visible God. The same with Islam, if a Black/African person accepts Al Islam and its many branches as there religion, then it accepts the Desert Arab as his God. That person cannot have power over, or be equal to the Caucasian, or Arab because here, the Caucasian and the Arab has been accepted as the superior power, and this is why trying to obtain liberty and equality in Caucasian or Arab religion or any alien religion is a CRUEL HOAX! If you look at all of the so called Holy Books that our people are into, they all portray the image of someone other than self. There is not a face of Black/African people of any of these imported religions.

Hotep brudda!!

Peace be unto you!!

The African mind has been corrupted with different alien ideologies/belief systems, hence why we are confused, and why we're the way we are...

Some might argue that our ancestors' religion(s) is primitive, but Christianity used to be primitive when the crusaders were killing millions of people around the world, women were not allowed priesthood, and when a Pope ordered the enslavement of black people... But it evolved to fit the mmodern world...

Islam used to be primitive and it's still primitive in some ways when they were killing millions of unbelievers and enslaving black people through Zanzibar... But it evolved to fit the mmodern world...

But why can't we evolve our own religion(s) to fit into the modern world, rather than stay copying everyone's religion and their identity Yet we blame the white man for our failures and the Arab man for being a racist... Hey, I would do the same thing if I was in the white man, or Arab man's shoes - if you look up to me for everything and worship images that look like me, you and I definitely don't belong to the same class... It shows I'm superior to you and I'll continue to manipulate you for my own benefits...

I'm out, yo...
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by safarigirl(f): 6:23pm On Sep 30, 2012
Tolaaaaannni: Nigeria hasn't achieved a lot so far, but I believe it has a lot of potential to acheive more and we are going to get


there one day, be it divided or unitedly divided. Its just going to take some time. After all, it is a very young


country and it has had a lot of set backs compared to all the developed nations.
I like your spirit. Nigeria is a young country? Do you know Singapore and Nigeria got independence the same time? Nigeria can't stand next to Singapore anywhere despite our being with loads of natural resources. Corruption, overpopulation, laziness, tribalism, nepotism, waiting for God to solve things as little as who we should TOAST! and most importantly FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN has seriously hampered whatever little progress we could have had. On the plus side, we have the Koko master, 2 face, Wizkid, Nneka, P square, Basketmouth, Genevieve Nnaji, Pete Edochie, and our wild population has helped us win BBA 3 times in a row, Naija to bad gan!
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:26pm On Sep 30, 2012
Tolaaaaannni:

To be honest with you a lot of what you wrote up there makes no sense, well to me at least. You were comparing science and religion. Comparing science and religion is like comparing apples and oranges. They are 2 different things my friend.



* Well I won't apologize for derailing the thread, cause technically the discussion is still related to the topic*
But Apple and Oranges share a common genre called "Fruits". What People call Science happens to be what I call the True Religion. Without a proof, I believe nothing. Yes, Nothing is believable without a proof.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by PastorOla1: 6:29pm On Sep 30, 2012
There is hope for Nigeria, so let's celebrate hope.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by Nobody: 6:29pm On Sep 30, 2012
DeCleff:

My cousin once told me 2yrs ago during Nigeria @ 50 that a fool @ 40 is a fool forever so Nigeria @ 50 is foolish.

So i wonder what he's gonna say this time.

God bless Nigeria

Thunder fire corruption
Do you believe your cousin? cos if you do and both of you are Nigerians, then invariably, both of you are children, no, Citizens of a Fool. I beg to differ, Nigeria is one of the youngest, yet most enterprising countries. Look at Liberia, the oldest country to gain Independence. Look, Read and Learn and stop being silly.
Re: What Has Nigeria Achieved So Far? by icedpope(m): 6:29pm On Sep 30, 2012
nigeria kwanu? plzzzzz. to me, they have achieved nofin

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