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Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by maasoap(m): 8:18am On Apr 23, 2013 |
And to imagine that people who want Obasanjo at ICC for genocide are the same set of people who today see the killing of 185 civilians as wiping out Boko Haram. Are they telling us that you can see a settlement that habour 185 boko haram? You people refer to the killing of children, women and defenceless men as collateral damage? Why do average Nigerian like and love to change sides at will? Why do they find it so convenient to condemn an act today and find justification for it tomorrow when another person commit the same offence? OBJ deployed soldiers to Odi and Zaki Biam, they condemned it, Jona's soldiers massacred 185 people, razed down an entire town including their market and food stores and the same set of people who once had and still have empathy for Odi and Zaki Biam people suddenly lost their conscience. My question to you people is 'what happened in Odi and Zaki Biam that didnt happen in Baga?' And this is happening few weeks after Mr Jonathan called OBJ action in Odi and Zaki Biam "genocide". 33 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Tolexander: 8:21am On Apr 23, 2013 |
maasoap: And to imagine that people who want Obasanjo at ICC for genocide are the same set of people who today see the killing of 185 civilians as wiping out Boko Haram. Are they telling us that you can see a settlement that habour 185 boko haram? You people refer to the killing of children, women and defenceless men as collateral damage? Why do average Nigerian like and love to change sides at will? Why do they find it so convenient to condemn an act today and find justification for it tomorrow when another person commit the same offence? OBJ deployed soldiers to Odi and Zaki Biam, they condemned it, Jona's soldiers massacred 185 people, razed down an entire town including their market and food stores and the same set of people who once had and still have empathy for Odi and Zaki Biam people suddenly lost their conscience. My question to you people is 'what happened in Odi and Zaki Biam that didnt happen in Baga?' And this happening few weeks after Mr Jonathan called OBJ action in Odi and Zaki Biam "genocide".[size=20pt] the differences between them are similar[/size] 9 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by maasoap(m): 12:58pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Differently similar. 1 Like |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by seunfly: 6:35pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Nigerians don't see things base on principles or character rather their judgment is base on sentiment. If they like u, everything u do or say is good and if they hate u every u do is bad. That is why all the leaders we have are only good when they are in office after they leave office, they turn bad because peaple singing them praise are doing it based on what they are getting from their pockets which they will not get again after he must have left office. Ask ur self where are those who sing praises to babangida some years ago except Raymod dokpesi and Mike Adenuga others have disapeared, what about Obasanjo only Fanikayode and Obi Ezekueli others are gone. 15 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by dayokanu(m): 7:05pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Its so sad that the same people who were very loud in their criticism of govt for Odi are now lauding the same actions in Baga Thats why the country wont move forward, Its all about sentiments If na my kinsman steal money na mistake and witchhunt if na another person na criminal 9 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by MrNigeria2(m): 8:30pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
no difference |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Nobody: 8:32pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
There is no justification for what happened at baga. Neither is their any justification in using innocent people as human shield by terrorists. It's a catch-22. 8 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Coldfeet(f): 8:32pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
So much blood shed! My people why? 2 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by SLIDEwaxie(m): 8:33pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
I beg, allow us hear word jare! Toothless observers, foolish journalism! 4 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by seunfly: 8:35pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
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Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Nobody: 8:36pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Those killed in kano car park bombing are innocent too! Those killed in madala church bombing are innocent too! Soldiers who die in this fight against terrorism are humans too! This is a war against terrorism and casualties are certain. RIP to the dead. one way or the other there must be a lasting solution to this nonsense bombing all over the country. long live Federal republic of Nigeria. 54 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Nobody: 8:36pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
There is nothing different, there is rather something very clear, and that is if you want to fight a war don't be a coward, come out plainly and do not hide in the midst of civilians, when you come out and show ur strength then then the Nigerian Army will do their job very well, but anyways if not for tribal sentiments creeping in now, they are very professional 6 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by papil: 8:37pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
No comment 4 now! |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Nobody: 8:37pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
These killings will continue so long as people sheepishly and oafishly continue to define and defend a moronic and archaic entity called "Nigeria" which exists to serve Western and so-called common-wealth interests to the detriment of indigenous people. It is an aberration for a country to subsist largely for the sake of massaging the imperial ego of a distant empire. A nation in which only the lower kinds of friendship (characterized by covert patterns of patronage and ethical egoism) are fostered; in which the dominant ties are those of profit and pleasure, will be an essentially unstable society. Unless the various elements in the Nigerian society subordinate private interest and pleasure to the love of the common good, the country will decompose, as the demands of self-interest and faction multiply into an explosive mixture of mutually repelling atoms. 5 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Pontaboki: 8:38pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
The difference is clear,Baga was housing and shielding a bunch of Terrorists that recently bombed 5 Luxury buses killing more than 80 people in Kano.Go and ask the US the meaning of collateral damage,that is when Terrorits are using people as human shield and the people whole heartily accept to be used as such. 18 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by coogar: 8:39pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
dayokanu: Its so sad that the same people who were very loud in their criticism of govt for Odi are now lauding the same actions in Baga i support all the attacks on those villages..... if some set of people think they can hold a whole country to ransom because they are capable of making bombs then they deserve the gnashing of teeth they are getting. people who aid/abet terrorists are not different from the terrorists. kill them all!!!!!! 15 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Nobody: 8:39pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Jonadoom is a 2faced terminator! "A bloodthirsty wolf in sheep's clothing" 3 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by nedu2000(m): 8:41pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
as long as unarmed civilians were affected in large numbers,they are similiar.......the politics of ethicnity,region,who ordered the attack or reason of attack doesn't matter 2 M̶̲̅ε̲̣̣̣̥,its however a regular occurence in areas of conflict 1 Like |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Krucifax(m): 8:42pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
maasoap: And to imagine that people who want Obasanjo at ICC for genocide are the same set of people who today see the killing of 185 civilians as wiping out Boko Haram. Are they telling us that you can see a settlement that habour 185 boko haram? You people refer to the killing of children, women and defenceless men as collateral damage? Why do average Nigerian like and love to change sides at will? Why do they find it so convenient to condemn an act today and find justification for it tomorrow when another person commit the same offence? OBJ deployed soldiers to Odi and Zaki Biam, they condemned it, Jona's soldiers massacred 185 people, razed down an entire town including their market and food stores and the same set of people who once had and still have empathy for Odi and Zaki Biam people suddenly lost their conscience. My question to you people is 'what happened in Odi and Zaki Biam that didnt happen in Baga?' And this is happening few weeks after Mr Jonathan called OBJ action in Odi and Zaki Biam "genocide". The first answer to this is that in all three cases, there was terrible loss of innocent life. However do not try to condemn JTF with an underhanded dig in your write. The Baga siege,is more significant because Baga was a community which harbored a terrorist group that held the whole nation to ransom. I do not in any fashion support the killing of women and children(that was a national disgrace)however you must also apportion blame proportionately. The JTF team got to Baga in the wee hours of the day,surrounded the village and asked any Boko Haram affiliates to surrender themselves. How did they respond to JTF? With AK47s and RPGs(Rocket Propelled Grenades)! What did you expect JTF to do? Respond with bad language or ask them to calm down?? They opened fire on a Nigerian military force and JTF simply returned the favour. The collateral damage is however regretable but it was unavoidable. So in summary i have no criticism of JTF under the circumstances,they did what they had to do!! Fact. 41 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by RabiuAnka(m): 8:43pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
whatever have a beggining it must definately has an end! time will surely come when all of them will regrate. 1 Like |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by omiobo: 8:44pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
In military,attack is for when you see advantage to aim for. It's a pity innocents fall victim. |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Ayoobscom(m): 8:44pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Absolute genocide my brothers Indiscriminate killing is the father of terrorism The surviving victims will live the rest of their lives in seeking vengeance against the oppressor There's an Ame country commonly attacked buy individuals seeking vengeance.. Genocide is evil and should be discouraged as a means of settling vices.. What happened to iraq,Odi and baga is extermination....so sad.. 2 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by coogar: 8:45pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
nedu2000: as long as unarmed civilians were affected in large numbers,they are similiar.......the politics of ethicnity,region,who ordered the attack or reason of attack doesn't matter 2 me the unarmed civilians help the suicide bombers transport IEDs from place to place in their market wares, garri sacks, vegetable trays, etc. jonathan should be picking the community leader of any district housing terrorists. detain the leader and his entire family. that's how people would sit up. nigeria is at war with terror. jonathan should set up a detention camp in abidjan a la gitmo! 1 Like |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by ArQueBusieR(m): 8:45pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
MTF, not JTF, dumbo! 2 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by alaoeri: 8:46pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Hypocrisy of our ppl. |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by 50calibre(m): 8:46pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Krucifax: Spot on! 3 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by kheart(m): 8:47pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Very pathetic how pple have lost deir common sense of reasoning. Smh 1 Like |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by alphaconde(m): 8:51pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Boko haram is like a virus. Its effects and its solution spells more danger. |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by taharqa: 8:54pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
The diff is that Security Agencies went to both Zaki Ibiam and Odi to revenge and punish innocent villagers who didnt fire a shot during d specific operations; WHILST, Security Agencies went to Baga to effect Arrest of Dementd Terrorists who were said to be holed up in a Mosque and in stead met a hail of fire from those Terroists and their Collaborators who used such sophisticated Ammunitions as RPGS killing and/or injuring a few soldiers. The Multinational Army (made up of Troops from Nigeria, Chad and Cameroon) of course had to RESPOND IN KIND, leading to d Death of sm Terroists Rats (COWARDS who usd Civilians as human shield) but unfortunately sm Innocent citizens of d Town who were mostly killed in d Conflagratn (Fire) that followd d Intense fighting bw d Soldier and d Cowardly Terroists. By d way, the no of innocent deaths is CERTAINLY not up to 186..... You may now spot d diff yrself 8 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by kheart(m): 8:55pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Wish ur neighbor wat u wish for thyself remember this. 1 Like |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by Pk001(m): 8:55pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Big Difference!! Zaki Biam and Odi, military carried out mass killings to avenge the death of their colleagues. In Baga, it was an act of War. The military were confronted directly by the enemies and they returned fire for fire, leaving a soldier dead and a large number of the unprofessional enemies dead also. Rules of Engagement : A civilian ceases to be a civilians when he carries a weapon and directs it at a military personnel, or when he protects the person directing the weapon at the military personnel. 17 Likes |
Re: Between Baga, Odi And Zaki Biam: What Is The Difference? by ASL33: 8:56pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
seunfly: Nigerians don't see things base on principles or character rather their judgment is base on sentiment.You are guilty of this as well. dayokanu: Its so sad that the same people who were very loud in their criticism of govt for Odi are now lauding the same actions in BagaYou are guilty as well. 1 Like |
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