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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:07am On Aug 20, 2017 |
IL-76TD , Algerian AF 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by slimthugchimee(m): 10:23am On Aug 20, 2017 |
Cannonleo: shaku- I will kill 10000 Nigerian soldier's proforce- we have just unveiled the new ARA thunder for the NA shekau- 8 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 11:13am On Aug 20, 2017 |
kikuyu1: Just drop a 30cm thick log on the road, the ARA stops. No fancy things needed. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by BlackBaron: 11:14am On Aug 20, 2017 |
Henry240:Square pegs for round holes. Mexico and Brazil are not dealing with ied threats rather they got cartels and gangs. I'm implying that vehicles for carrying troops in the North East are adapted for their environment than Toyota. Anywhere else in Nigeria, Hilux are good and solid workhorses for the armed forces and security services. It'll be foolhardy to waste limited resources on replacing them when we don't need MRAPs for non mine related conflicts. tdayof:Well, as said by you, the Americans used it for equipment not ferrying troops. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:25am On Aug 20, 2017 |
BlackBaron: That notwithstanding, they are in an active war zone were ambushes are frequent. Hence the term One Resistant Ambush Protected. MRAPs are not for mines only. It is actually round pegs in round holes. I agree that vehicles used in the NE should be adapted to the AOR, however these vehicles really don't fall from the sky. The cost implications of running purely armoured infantry vehicles for 6 years in the AO is not feasible. Even for richer countries such as Brazil and Mexico. However, what i believe should be advocated is a decent mix of armoured vehicles to Pick-ups. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:32am On Aug 20, 2017 |
BlackBaron: MRAPs provide good quality protection, but they are not invincible. We have all seen that video of a Turkish army Kipri MRAP which was shredded to pieces by a PKK road side bomb. The video was released earlier this year i believe. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:34am On Aug 20, 2017 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 11:36am On Aug 20, 2017 |
Henry240: South Africa operated Casspirs, Buffels, Elands and Ratels in northern Namibia and Angola for over 20 years.... Stop with your rubbish of making up facts. Just because you don't have the budget it doesn't mean others don't as well. 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 12:02pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Henry240: If mines/ied's are present in the AO then soft-skinned vehicles have no place outside of the wire. Soft skinned vehicles are for use in safe areas or for use by irregular formations. Acquiring a fleet of MRAP's for the N.E is well within Nigeria's means. You aquired 23 Mamba MRAP's from us for a unit cost of 200K USD per unit. So, for 120mil USD you could have yourself a fleet of 600. I suspect the Bigfoot was significantly cheaper and the Chinese have the production capacity to deliver the lot rather quickly. And then there is the fact that the Americans are trying to get rid of some 6000 MRAPs... With the British not far behind them 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 12:05pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Henry240: Even the mighty King-Tiger was not invincible. Everything made by man can be destroyed. That isnt the point. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 12:19pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
And this whole "Americans are using Toyota as well" in Syria talk.... Some people need to educate themselves a few things; 1. The US has a small contingency of operators in Syria, flying in the "MRAPs" requires the whole mechanical shop of logistics support which is not relevant because they're only providing CAS and specialised missions to allied forces... So the logic is to use what is easily available on the territory ie Toyotas. 2. Showing up in an Uncle Sam made MRAP while doing support makes you a special target for your enemy while you're mobile so just blend in as well just like with local vehicles.... A similar example would be when white South African soldiers ended up painting themselves black to avoid being selectively tagged during bush patrol ambushes. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 12:33pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
BlackBaron: Nooooo. Read my message again. Trucks were carrying the American equipments. Which includes pickup trucks like our our Toyota. Those pickup trucks also have chairs to carry troops. They're for troops and nothing else. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by BlackBaron: 12:35pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Henry240:I did not foster the illusion anywhere of MRAPs as a silver bullet for IED problems Henry. Sorry for derailing, maybe should move to discussion thread |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 12:36pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
LMAO 30CM log like sey na Mumu design the car. Abeg carry your hating go somewhere. During designs, specifications changes. Ground clearance is a critical stuff in designing a MRAP. Just sit behind your computer dey yawn dust. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 12:46pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
tdayof:I don de wait the badbelle vibes since |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:47pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
BlackBaron: That's okay, we should move it to the discussion thread. I'll quote you there. The link is in my signature. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 12:48pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 12:50pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
ActivateKruger:quick question what's d difference between a Toyota and a Humvee |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 12:55pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Odunayaw:Abi nau. The thing be sey dem no fit hide am. All them professional keyboard MRAP designer. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 12:58pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:41pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
border patrol unit , , Algerian army they use mostly Toyota station for desert and rarely humvee
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 1:50pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Algerian1: Same Toyota variants is being used by US |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Adminisher: 1:59pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Algerian1: The probability of running into an IED in the not desert = 0.00000001 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:12pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Adminisher: That's a strongly unverified but correct probability...IEDs are not mines they are targeted munitions used in an offensive mode whilst it's relative the landmine is mostly a defensive munitions. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:22pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Algerian mi-26 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 2:42pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
BroZuma: You get pressure-plate IED's these days I watched a doccie about Royal Marines in Afghanistan and there were so many IED's in the area they were operating that they had basically zero mobility and the entire AO was essentially like something out of WW1. They also had ROE's that allowed them to shoot anyone they suspected of "spotting" for insurgents. It took British Engineers ~2 months to clear one market place. IED's are the new mine. You no longer need a wealthy foreign backer to seed the countryside with dormant death and completely eradicate your opponents mobility. Pics: Froggies in Africa 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:58pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
patches689: Exactly...mines were munitions of opportunity whilst IED are targeted. So the probability of seeing an IED in the wild is zero. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by fufubear: 2:58pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Odunayaw:A Toyota won't kill you if you crash. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:03pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
BroZuma: If its a choke-point and the enemy have the capacity to build a pressure-plate IED then it is just as likely. Perhaps even more likely. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:06pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
patches689: It's the poor man's force mutiplier... |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 3:51pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Odunayaw: Logistics support |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:55pm On Aug 20, 2017 |
Odunayaw: Toyota: Spare parts, cost, versality, agility and ease of repair. Humvee: Only Allied countries or those in the good books of the US can use them and it is an opposite of everything the Toyota presents on the battlefield. |
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