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Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by wasak(m): 7:52pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
wogor@paradise:.....Na my fault say ASUU don turn me to dropout? |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by oseghaklotinz: 8:10pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
they should quickly reexamine his health before he will sack himself, am sure we will hear that if he actually did all the sacking and dismissals. |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by mythoughts: 8:23pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
Let me start by say FrankC has a very strong point oh. It is very sad that even though most of us watched him on TV when he arrived and might have ascertained from the visuals only, not audio( cos dem no gree make the man talk) dat he is not 'fit' to be governor but what does the constitution say?-that a man or woman must be mentally fit (not physically fit) for he or she to govern over a state. But the big question now is-who ascertains whether somebody is mentally fit or not? (A doctor or psychologist, this another debate 4 another day) Bt however if only people can get audio evidence but i can bet u that this will definitely be contested by his lawyers(whether d evidence is credible or not or whether it it is admissible in court or not). However, somebody might have problem with his wind pipe and that might affect his or her speech and that does not mean that the person is not mentally fit to govern a state. Bt our law its structured in such a way that somebody its assumed to be mentally ok until proven otherwise, lawyers in the forum can correct me if am wrong oh (am not a lawyer). The onus now falls on the people of Taraba to find strong evidence that prove otherwise-that he is mentally incapacited. 1 Like |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by Asabeq(f): 8:36pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
...And am loving you too ![]() God pls give him the strength to carry on and if he can't let someone else do it plsssssss ![]() Okija_juju: WAY TO GO SUNTAI!!! |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by drdams: 8:42pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
D level of ur joblessness is increasing. Am hapi 4 u, Congrats.. wasak: God :oGod...am i d fourth to comment... does ds mean I may be d 1st tomorrow.... I think m improving....@ Suntai pls make my Dad ur Ssg he's qualified... though he's a Yoruba man 1 Like |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by Nobody: 8:53pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
what is the big deal about his dissolving cabinet? did he do it in person? was yardua not signing documents while he was brain dead in saudi arabia? were people not shouting in the papers that he was hale and hearty? did he not give an interview on the bbc hausa service? 1 Like |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by Connoisseur(m): 9:17pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
Larryfly: LOSER!!! you think this is the way to respond to superior argument |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by BelloHabiba: 9:24pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
Na waoooo for this country, the person that can't walk either stand on his own, how can that person will rule the state. |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by practitioner(m): 9:29pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
my.thoughts:Well, u re wrong, because d constitution contemplates both physical and mental stability and not jst mental stability as some ve wrongly said. Section 189(2) provides thus:"where d medical panel certifies in its report that in its opinion d governor or deputy governor is suffering from such INFIRMITY OF BODY or mind......." So, physical fitnesses is also a consideration. 2 Likes |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by mythoughts: 9:40pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
practitioner: Well, u re wrong, because d constitution contemplates both physical and mental stability and not jst mental stability as some ve wrongly said. Section 189(2) provides thus:"where d medical panel certifies in its report that in its opinion d governor or deputy governor is suffering from such INFIRMITY OF BODY or mind......." So, physical fitnesses is also a consideration.thank u for the insight. |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by practitioner(m): 9:45pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
my.thoughts:U re welcome. |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by Adamsazubuike(m): 9:50pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
[quote author=Frank-C] What exactly is legally treasonable about what just happened? Learn to isolate 'how you feel' from facts before you when you want to reach conclusions. The consititution we are operating empowers him to resume his office by just writing a letter to the HOA when he returns. This letter is only a notification that he has resumed, not a permission. Besides, the guy may be physically weak but mentally and psychologically strong. Neither you nor I are doctors or psychologists to de-good reasoning |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by wasak(m): 10:09pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
dr dams: D level of ur joblessness is increasing....Thanks man |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by Pk001(m): 10:37pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
practitioner: Well, u re wrong, because d constitution contemplates both physical and mental stability and not jst mental stability as some ve wrongly said. Section 189(2) provides thus:"where d medical panel certifies in its report that in its opinion d governor or deputy governor is suffering from such INFIRMITY OF BODY or mind......." So, physical fitnesses is also a consideration. And who makes up the medical Panel? The constitutions says the medical panel must include his personal physician. Do you think his personal physician will certify him incapacitated after advicing him to come back from America? |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by Akiika: 11:03pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
Now another drama has started, another Yar'Adua/Jonathan saga...all in the name of greed. |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by andrano: 11:07pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
hmmmm make i combak for dis suntail matter. jst wait. |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by mrrhymes223: 11:37pm On Aug 28, 2013 |
Power intoxicates and Absolute Power intoxicates Absolutely. De love of power in my own version is de root of evil. I rest my case. |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by adconline(m): 12:26am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Larryfly: Cos you have no better way to win with fact and logical reasoning, instead, you resorted to emotional and gibberish ranting! Typical mentality! |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by jenti: 1:18am On Aug 29, 2013 |
From what I saw on the telly, SUNTAI does not look physically fit His smart move to dissolve the cabinet is a legal way to buy time and escape the setting up of a panel by the executive council to examine his state of health as required by the constitution. AT THE END OF THE DAY SUNTAI WILL ONLY HAVE HIMSELF TO BLAME JUST AS YARADUA'S BACKERS. TIME WILL PROVE HIM STUPID AS HE IS ONLYPLAYING CASINO WITH HIS LIFE. I AM WATCHING THIS DRAMA |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by pmc01(m): 1:59am On Aug 29, 2013 |
Sadly and quite very unfortunate, I have hardly come across any commentator do their analysis with central focus on the people of Taraba, who are ultimately at the receiving end of this absurd drama. The debate have only been limited to those in the corridors of power, as if we were discussing an Obasanjo farm. Have we forgotten Taraba isn't a private property? What is the faith of the Taraba masses whose affairs would most definitely be abandoned in this power tussle? Who is speaking for the people of Taraba? |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by FrankC3: 7:56am On Aug 29, 2013 |
practitioner: Well, u re wrong, because d constitution contemplates both physical and mental stability and not jst mental stability as some ve wrongly said. Section 189(2) provides thus:"where d medical panel certifies in its report that in its opinion d governor or deputy governor is suffering from such INFIRMITY OF BODY or mind......." So, physical fitnesses is also a consideration. Now, you are talking. Not all the emotional blackmail from supposed graduates. Now, we can discuss the law governing us and how it affects the Taraba situation. To be clear, I am against our laws allowing a leader to continue in office when saddled with diseases that compromise their ability to do their jobs but I know well enough to leave this open to both political and legal interpretation. Is HIV or diabetes an infirmity of the body enough? What of kidney disease or parkinson? What do you think about severe malaria and typhoid? Now, lets throw in an amputee, a blind or a dumb? The big question is whether our laws will ever allow a Steven Hawkings to run for Governorship or Presidential office in Nigeria? Naturally, I believe in a human society, where the poor or incapacitated enjoy opportunities like the rest of us but not to the extent of such infirmity compromising their ability to carry out the highly tasking job of National development. This is an important National debate and I expect our youths to be actively involved in such debate and not just complain. I believe that our constitution is not necessarily a mansion to be built that is still at the foundation level but an ongoing discussion, like we are having now. The target should be to expand the frontiers of freedom and Human Rights. It should also aim at protecting our weak, not punishing them for being weak no matter who they are. Our laws should be Human and practical too. To this end, I think our laws should allow medical experts to appraise Suntai health condition, run the report against weighed factors and output a verdict that is transparent and practical. But my worry is that it should not just be on Suntai because he had an accident. It should be on our elected officials including ALL governors and the President. The other alternative is to trust our leaders to perform self appraisal and decide to resign when they can no more continue or allow the House of Assembly initiate impeachment, force the executive to make an appearance and then make a judgement. Whichever option we decide on should be backed up with strong logic. For now, what we have is good for stability, but does not take care of efficiency. If we are to choose between efficiency and stablity at this point in our Nation's life, the natural choice will be stability. I think thats the choice the national assembly has made. I welcome more intelligent corrections and additions, not emotional outbursts and tantrums. 1 Like |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by practitioner(m): 12:06pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
Frank-C:Idon't think both d spirit and letter of our constitution accommodates any form of discrimination against incapacitated persons.A careful reading of section 189(3)shows that the emphasis is not on d fact of d person being incapacitated,but on the person being PERMANENTELY INCAPABLE OF DISCHARGING HIS FUNCTIONS.That is to say,unless the infirmity,be it of the body or the mind,has rendered d person permanentely incapable of discharging his functions,he is qualified to hold d position.Therefore,d question is not of incapacity,but of incapability.Suffice it to say that even a mentally unstable person is still qualified,unless it is shown that his mental problem is of such degree as to render him permanently incapable of discharging his functions.So can one who has Hiv,a kidney patient,parkinson disease,amputee be constitutionally qualified to hold office? I believe d answer is yes. 2 Likes |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by FrankC3: 2:03pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
practitioner: Idon't think both d spirit and letter of our constitution accommodates any form of discrimination against incapacitated persons.A careful reading of section 189(3)shows that the emphasis is not on d fact of d person being incapacitated,but on the person being PERMANENTELY INCAPABLE OF DISCHARGING HIS FUNCTIONS.That is to say,unless the infirmity,be it of the body or the mind,has rendered d person permanentely incapable of discharging his functions,he is qualified to hold d position.Therefore,d question is not of incapacity,but of incapability.Suffice it to say that even a mentally unstable person is still qualified,unless it is shown that his mental problem is of such degree as to render him permanently incapable of discharging his functions.So can one who has Hiv,a kidney patient,parkinson disease,amputee be constitutionally qualified to hold office? I believe d answer is yes. I totally agree with your well reasoned and intelligent points. I will only add that I hope that as our democracy evolve, that our politicians evolve also so that we can reach a day when a Governor or President can resign his office for health reasons or even sex scandal. I also hope that the followers will learn to protect the weak and his properties (properties here meaning John Locke's definition) until he can no more be said to be able to excercise right over those properties, then we can respectfully help him/her to peaceful retirement. |
Re: Suntai Dissolves Cabinet Amidst Controversies by practitioner(m): 3:31pm On Aug 29, 2013 |
Frank-C:I hope so too. |
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