DrummaBoy: On 29th August 2013, the first ever e-convention was convened on nairaland www.nairaland.com/1416947/welcome-e-grace-convention-2013. The subject of discuss was mainly the grace of God manifested to all men. We had basically nairalanders present papers and it was a real blessing.

In the build up to the grace convention of last year, Goshen360, the convener, tgirl4real and myself, organized the program privately and decided on the speakers and topics. Some people were unhappy with our choice of speakers; so we decided then that if ever there will be another, the choices will be made more openly.

Therefore this thread is created as a fore runner to the GRACE CONVENTION 2014! Here nlanders will choose who they want to hear from and you would decide what topics you want discussed. However, Goshen and I will act as moderators to ensure the thread is not too open ended. To ensure this, I will enumerate some basic rules that would guide us in the choice of teachers and topics:

1. The central theme of the convention is GRACE: the grace of God revealed to all men in Jesus. Therefore all topics and subtopics must be related to grace. It doesn't have to mean that the word grace must be in the topic, it simply means that the topic must be biblical, for which God's grace is a central theme.

2. Speakers must be professing Christians.

3. Topics can also include life issues that cannot be divorced from the Christian life.

4. Suggestions are welcome but final choice of topics and speakers shall rest with the moderators though you can count on it that we shall be as fair as humanly possible.

5. This rule section shall be updated through the discuss and so suggestions for rules are welcome but will be ratified by moderators.

6. Moderators for the thread are Goshen360 and DrummaBoy.

We encourage you to make insightful suggestions and to avoid snide remarks.

Thank you.

DrummaBoy: Some of the discussions that I have heard with brethren here have been heated ones. I was hoping this years convention will allow for a similitude of ecumenism, where despite our differences in opinions, we can still speak as one voice concerning matters of God's kingdom.

For these reasons, I would like to see some of the following people present papers at this year's convention:

stryktlimi
Bidam
Image123
Alwaystrue
Gombs
Tgirl4real
Peter007
PastorKun
trustman
BabaGnoni
Goshen360
frosbel
candour
Boomark
truthislight
Enigma (where is he?)
Joagbaje
Ihedinobi2
OLAADEGBU
christembassey
nlmediator

I will list others as I remember them.

I hope you see this on the mention list and post your opinion here.

Tgirl4real:

Hello sir, I saw the opening post and I planned to buzz u later.

I particularly do not support (religion) ecumenism. There's no way you can have different doctrines and say the same thing. One side will have to compromise to accommodate the other.

Gombs:

Why?

DrummaBoy:

Because its an initiative of Goshen360 and I am just a support.

Someone has to do the job.

Never mind. We will endeavor to be fair.

DrummaBoy:

Hey Mama

I agree.

That's why I called it a "similitude of ecumenism".

Its humbling to know that despite our differences, we will all share Gods kingdom together. We had better not think God is compromising to make such accommodation for us all.

I had even thought of organizing a meeting were we could all meet and talk face to face but maybe we can start from here.

There is one name we all profess, JESUS, I am sure we can find a common ground on Him somewhere.

Tgirl4real:

There are some differences that makes it clear that we serve 2 diff Jesus'.

I know you re trying to foster unity, but things will always be like this.
'Everybody' can not believe the same thing cos of 'human interpretation/personal revelation' of scriptures.

BabaGnoni:

"You can’t control everything:Turmoil, conflict, chaos, this is part of life.
Look at any playground:
The screaming, the laughter, the tears,
out of the mayhem comes out relationship and love
and the simple joy of being surprised by life."
- God, Joan of Arcadia

Tgirl4real:

There are some differences that makes it clear that we serve 2 diff Jesus'.

I know you re trying to foster unity, but things will always be like this. 'Everybody' can not believe the same thing cos of 'human interpretation/personal revelation' of scriptures.

BabaGnoni:

"You can’t control everything:Turmoil, conflict, chaos, this is part of life.
Look at any playground:
The screaming, the laughter, the tears,
out of the mayhem comes out relationship and love
and the simple joy of being surprised by life."
- God, Joan of Arcadia

striktlymi: The title of the thread attracted me here. Didn't see the 'mention' cause you missed d 'y' in striktlymi.

The last convention was successful in my opinion. I bet this one would be an improvement on the last.

DrummaBoy:

T-Mama

I no dare disagree with you o but...

Let's give it a try...OK? Pls??

So what's your suggestion for an e-convention this year?

DrummaBoy:

A very apt quote towards the convention.

Let me relay a story, I hope I get the details bc its been sometimes I read it:

On 31st October 1517 Martin Luther approached the doors of a prominent cathedral in the city of Wittenberg and nailed a 95 point theses on the errors of the RCC on its doors. By the time the dust settled, the Reformation had begun.

Three prominent figures spearhead the reform efforts of those days: Martin Luther (Germany); Huldrych Zwingli (Zurich) and John Calvin (Geneva). They agreed on three major points on Protestantism: Justification; Sola Scriptura; and Priesthood of all Saints. But they disagreed on minor issues like the Lord's Supper.

Luther would have been killed by the powers of Rome if not for the rulers of his country who, for reason God alone knows, were ready to defend him, even with military might. Zwingli did not have this advantage in Zurich. The point arrived when Zwingli and his followers had to defend their doctrine and lives against the encroachment of Catholic military. Luther looked the other way, possibly bc of differences in doctrine. Zwingli went to war and was killed.

John Calvin had suggested a middle point for Luther and Zwingli on the matter of the Lords Supper. They both refused it. Today the view of most non Catholics on the Lords Supper follow Calvin's interpretation.

Morale: The bible commands us to hold the truth in love. Not for truth sake we forsake love or for love sake we forsake truth. The worst of heretics are still mostly honest men and most of us have been in those shoes before.

I trust God to give understanding.

DrummaBoy:

striktlymi
Bidam
Image123
Alwaystrue
Gombs
Tgirl4real
Peter007
PastorKun
trustman
BabaGnoni
Goshen360
frosbel
candour
Boomark
truthislight
Enigma (where is he?)
Joagbaje
Ihedinobi2
OLAADEGBU
christembassey
nlmediator
MrAnony1
PastorOluT
shdemidemi
Pastor AIO
Ayoku777
Nuclearboy
DrummaBoy

DrummaBoy:

Some of the discussions that I have heard with brethren here have been heated ones. I was hoping this years convention will allow for a similitude of ecumenism, where despite our differences in opinions, we can still speak as one voice concerning matters of God's kingdom.

For these reasons, I would like to see some of the following people present papers at this year's convention:

striktlymi
Bidam
Image123
Alwaystrue
Gombs
Tgirl4real
Peter007
PastorKun
trustman
BabaGnoni
Goshen360
frosbel
candour
Boomark
truthislight
Enigma (where is he?)
Joagbaje
Ihedinobi2
OLAADEGBU
christembassey
nlmediator
MrAnony1
PastorOluT
shdemidemi
Pastor AIO
Ayoku777
Nuclearboy
DrummaBoy


I will list others as I remember them.

I hope you see this on the mention list and post your opinion here.

Goshen360:

In addition, I suggest\add to the list, ichuka be added. You covered most people on my mind already.

OLAADEGBU:

Thanks but no thanks for the ecumenical invitation extended to me.

OLAADEGBU:

Thanks but no thanks for the ecumenical invitation extended to me.

OLAADEGBU:

Thanks but no thanks for the ecumenical invitation extended to me.

Bidam: Lol@ecumenical...some peeps just wont get it.SMH

Yooguyz: @Drummaboy, this is a good one. Thumbs up. Am in full support of the thread. I never knew you were an ecumenist like myself.

DrummaBoy:

Thank you Yooguyz.

Truth is, I am not exactly an ecumenist. I have my reservation about ecumenism.

But I know enough to discern Christ body on this forum to call his people together for a united purpose. I hope we can fulfill purpose on this thread.

I hope you will come along as we proceed?

OLAADEGBU:

Thanks but no thanks for the ecumenical invitation extended to me.

Gombs:


I smell another anti tither's grace convention like last year's... now, I feel folks (except anti tithers) won't accept this invitation on the grounds of insincerity on the part of the moderators ( not because they are anti tithers, candour for example has a better pedigree than they both), and since this thread would be grossly dominated by anti tithers and probably atheists, we can clearly assume insults would be an inevitable part of the thread as it is known to be difficult to have a civil discussion with anti tithers without them hauling invectives and insults.

And the idea of an ecumenical thread! I laff in swahili... maybe possible if and only if some new folks man it... but Goshen ft DB in moderation? Talk about garlic and onion...imagine the combination of both!

Imagine Kunle and shedemidemi in d mix... 2014 'grace convention' would be a defining part of NL religion section this year...thanks to the data loss.

shdemidemi: @Gombs

If you are like this as a man, I wonder what a female version of you would be like.

DrummaBoy:

Get what exactly?