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Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by skullz: 7:35pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: We are talking heat not radar............. Now I'm confused!! Ahuitzotl: [b] Missiles locks are a function of radar not heat.. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by skullz: 7:37pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: Aircrafts generally will be withdrawn from major war offensives because military strategies with the prevailing advanced ballistic systems will make their role in the front,no matter the generations, useless just like expensive battleships.....More like we are heading for the era of Unmanned aerial warfare |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Ahuitzotl: 7:43pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
skullz: .......... Now I'm confused!![b] We was talking about heatseekers and afterburners then you said something about lock which in this case is redundant because locks are function of radar not heat (our current subject) and then you went of tangent about radar resignation and stealth but we had to bring you back to heat,heatseekers and afterburners.. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Ahuitzotl: 7:48pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
skullz: ..More like we are heading for the era of Unmanned aerial warfareThat is why drones are in high demand to supplement the numbers of expensive trained pilots and aircrafts....How bad would it look like for a $1 million trained pilot to get shot down in his $50million jet by a missile costing $250,000... |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by skullz: 7:56pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: We was talking about heatseekers and afterburners then you said something about lock which in this case is redundant because locks are function of radar not heat (our current subject) and then you went of tangent about radar resignation and stealth but we had to bring you back to heat,heatseekers and afterburners........Talking about Heat(IR) then you should know it's hard to pick up an IR signal from great distances |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by skullz: 8:00pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: That is why drones are in high demand to supplement the numbers of expensive trained pilots and aircrafts....How bad would it look like for a $1 million trained pilot to get shot down in his $50million jet by a missile costing $250,000.....That's what I've been hammering all this while, you can't eliminate the use of aerial components in battles/war, be it manned or unmanned. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Ahuitzotl: 8:03pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
skullz: ......Talking about Heat(IR) then you should know it's hard to pick up an IRSome space SATs can pick up IR how much less advanced dedicated heat-seeking battery systems.. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Ahuitzotl: 8:08pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
skullz: ..That's what I've been hammering all this while, you can't eliminate the use of aerial components in battles/war, be it manned or unmanned.What am also saying is they are very vulnerable and hence are not as decisive in major conflicts today as most people believe them to be... |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by HARDUBUY(m): 8:21pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Nobleval: Show us Russian versions. Always promoting US. I don't agree with the OPi Was also expecting to see the military hardwares of the Russians...the home to deadly weapons sylve11 :statistical fact shows that, innocent unharmed (unsilly) people have been killed far more than the so called "Silly ones" as a result of the deployment of those weapons....You cant even survive Its Chain reaction!!! |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by skullz: 8:23pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: What am also saying is they are very vulnerable and hence are not as decisive in major conflicts today as most people believe them to be...We can go on about the stealthiness of the B2, you and I know it is a deep strike aircraft capable of penetrating even the most saturated of SAM sites. Weaken air defences and make way for other aircrafts to carry out bombing run. The B2 would appear inconsequential on a radar screen thus making it hard to detect. IR signture is low. Heat seekers have nothing to even Lock on. Technically it has knocked out your SAM sites and disappeared before you even know it was there. At best your only chances are lighting up the whole sky with missiles and pray you hit it...probability of that happening is ermm.....Zero!! Because The B-2's operational altitude imposes a flight time for defensive weapons that makes it virtually impossible to engage the aircraft during its weapons deployment.
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Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Nobody: 8:27pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
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Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Nobody: 8:35pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Olucheye: Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.Just as your Good god is keeping Northern Nigeria safe shey? |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Ahuitzotl: 8:40pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
skullz: We can go on about the stealthiness of the B2, you and I know it is a deep strike aircraft capable of penetrating even the most saturated of SAM sites. Weaken air defences and make way for other aircrafts to carry out bombing run.I give up!!! |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by skullz: 8:46pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: I give up!!!Nice one man!! SAMs are Great No doubt, but this is not Flight MH17 this is a B2. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
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Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Ahuitzotl: 8:55pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
skullz: Nice one man!! SAMs are Great No doubt, but this is not Flight MH17 this is a B2.Don't flatter yourself...B2s will get blown off by S 400s. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by skullz: 9:04pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: Don't flatter yourself...B2s will get blown off by SA 11s.That would be awesome..As of today a single missile has not been fired at a B2, even though it has been in lots of hostile SAM infested territory I'm guessing the SAM operators decide to give the B2s safe passage. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Nobody: 9:22pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
BadBoy25: Sensible comment! Nigerians lack reasoning skills . they think it's about manufacturing automobiles or nollywood etc.huh who said so? Bbc? Cnn? Okay i will start with you tonight |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Olucheye(m): 9:55pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
oluafolabi: Just as your Good god is keeping Northern Nigeria safe shey? Stop sounding like a dolt! There's no harm in reasoning and thinking deeper. Try it sometime bro... Won't hurt! |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Wallie(m): 10:09pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: What scenario are you talking about? we thought we was squaring off with one B-2,now you say (change the goalposts) we got multiple bogeys?! against one lonely battery?!!, that is not a feasible nor strategic or a tactical scenario..It can never happen....[b]If it is an air raid or a bombing run then its imperative the radar stations must be knocked out but how is it possible when most are very mobile with thick camouflage?? O.k, so you manage to knock off some and drop your bombs then how do you escape with heatseekers all over the sky, else you shut your engines and crash....Yes,Russia is the best in advanced missile weaponry that is why expensive american jets will become obsolete very soon.[/b] Are you saying a B2 will invade enemy territory without any other support system? You are the one not thinking clearly because all along I've said fighting is not unidimensional. Check out post #113. Further, what's this "heatseaker" you keep harping on? Heat seeking missiles are generally susceptible to flares and/or evasive maneuvers! Na today? You ask how it's possible to knock out mobile radar stations. Take a quick look at Iraqi's self-propelled SAM and tell me what happened to them during the war: http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=151 You can ask the same exact thing about Kosovo which had a much more superior air defense system. Let me tell you how a hypothetical attack on a potential strong enemy would occur: 1. launch 100s of cruise missiles from ships and submarines offshore with the sole aim of knocking off long range radars and command and control. An attack can occur 3,700 km (2,300 miles) away from the target; 2. follow up with B2s that can fire a weapon at a target 1,500 miles (2,414 km) away; 3. start jamming radars with EA-6B Prowler; 4. bring out the F-117s to continue degrading the air defense systems. Fly well above 15k feet to stay out of range of the portable SAMs; and 5. if the air defense system and command control are somewhat degraded, bring out the F-16s and F-15s to patrol the skies. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Nobody: 11:10pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
BadBoy25...I see you've not been up to date with world events and military matters. Do you know that US and RUSSIA ARE THE ONLY COUNTRIES IN THE PLANET CAPABLE OF DESTROYING THIS PLANET MANY TIMES OVER? So how dare you underrate Russia....the most powerful nuclear power{which matters} and the second most powerful military power{which doesn't matter} do you know that Russia can annihilate this planet whenever they want? Pls kindly click the links http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_(nuclear_war) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_All_Bombs http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeJREFkqbg4 http://www.ploughshares.org/world-nuclear-stockpile-report http://nationalinterest.org/feature/welcome-russian-nuclear-weapons-101-10432 http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-russias-badass-next-generation-stealth-strategic-bomber-2013-4 http://www.nti.org/country-profiles/russia/biological/ http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/04-07-2012/121557-russia_absolute_weapon-0/ if you are religous http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2951194/posts |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by chioma4us: 11:22pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
Does my darling Nigerian military have any of these? |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Nobody: 11:22pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
skullz: We can go on about the stealthiness of the B2, you and I know it is a deep strike aircraft capable of [b]penetrating even the most saturated of SAM sites. Weaken air defences and make way for other aircrafts to carry out bombing run. Please could you back that up? Don't just make a fallacy just because the manufacturer listed that ability. Please tell us advanced SAM systems it has encountered. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by skullz: 11:33pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
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Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Superstar007(m): 11:43pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
ZACHIE: Jona wanted to spend $1b to fight Boko. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by tonte(m): 12:16am On Jul 31, 2014 |
well, you don't know that...Russian weaponry isn't on display Nobleval: All of 'em are mere toys to Russia. |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by EMANY01(m): 7:36am On Jul 31, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: We are talking heat not radar.... |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by jpphilips(m): 10:17am On Jul 31, 2014 |
Olucheye: Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God. In other news, the same people who first told you of the chariot are now building planes, when are you gonna upgrade from chariot mentality? 2 Likes |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by jpphilips(m): 10:21am On Jul 31, 2014 |
Ahuitzotl: Where is the wisdom buildin such expensive hardware when they can be shoot down by SAM sites which cost less than 1/10 to set up....Except they come with Standard ECM... Sounds like the Red heads are smarter than the yanks |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by jpphilips(m): 10:23am On Jul 31, 2014 |
TreasuredGlory: The horse is prepared for the day of battle but safety is of the Lord. Proverbs 21:31. Who has the final say? Jehovah has d FINAL SAY! They have both Jehovah and d big guns, what do you have? 1 Like |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by jpphilips(m): 11:41am On Jul 31, 2014 |
Nobleval: BadBoy25...I see you've not been up to date with world events and military matters. Do you know that US and RUSSIA ARE THE ONLY COUNTRIES IN THE PLANET CAPABLE OF DESTROYING THIS PLANET MANY TIMES OVER? So how dare you underrate Russia....the most powerful nuclear power{which matters} and the second most powerful military power{which doesn't matter} do you know that Russia can annihilate this planet whenever they want? You just quote links without reading them or you have a natural comprehension problem, your link says The Russians will have a hypersonic stealth Bomber in 2030, is your calendar on fast forward? 1 Like |
Re: Top 10 Most Expensive Military Planes by Nobody: 12:35pm On Jul 31, 2014 |
jpphilips:liar. Btw is that all you read? What about other links? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKpBq53gpRk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUJSaeE3EKY&fulldescription=1&gl=NG&hl=en-GB&guid=&client=mv-google http://m.youtube.com/watch?rl=yes&v=yZvMljUNCeU&feature=related&client=mv-google&guid=&hl=en-GB&gl=NGhttp://m.youtube.com/watch?rl=yes&v=yZvMljUNCeU&feature=related&client=mv-google&guid=&hl=en-GB&gl=NG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h08AxiE2HwU&rl=yes&feature=related&guid=&hl=en-GB&gl=NG&client=mv-google |
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