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Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:13pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
PROPHET MUHAMMAD (pbuh) IN THE BIBLE by Dr. Zakir Naik Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament: The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157: "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel". 1. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY: Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18: "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet. If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets. However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh): i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention. [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47] ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children. iii) Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158) Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh). Words in the mouth: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim. "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." [Deuteronomy 18:18] iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36). v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not." iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18) . 2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." 3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah: It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" . 4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16: " Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ." "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament: Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6: "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' " All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians. 1. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." 2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26: "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." 3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter. Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures. Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). 4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me". The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) NOTE : All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version. Reference: http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/index.htm |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by fijiano202(m): 6:44pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
yeah like 50 cent in the quran 6 Likes |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:14pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
fijiano202: yeah like 50 cent in the quranPLEASE I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT U MEAN |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 9:25am On Sep 02, 2014 |
Which Bible? The one that contains many contradictions or the one that has been change or the historian narrated one which Christians have today according to Muslims? Or Muslims have finally gotten the original Torah of Moses and Injil of Jesus? Confuse people! 2 Likes |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:18am On Sep 02, 2014 |
Emusan: Which Bible?yes some bible parts has been tampered with any aspect that contradict islamic teaching is not from GOD even though it has been tampered we can still find some few traces of prophet muhammad and some few islamic teaching that ur people forgot to tamper with.......because GOD knows that if he allows u to tamper with everything before the spirit of truth come it will be difficult for people to believe |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 11:36am On Sep 02, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: yes some bible parts has been tampered with any aspect that contradict islamic teaching is not from GOD Lolll.... So how can Allah be so weak to protect Bible when Allah can't allow anybody to tamper with Qur'an? even though it has been tampered with we can still find some few traces of prophet muhammad and some few islamic teaching that ur people forgot to tamper with Who are the people me or people who live before Muhammad or after Muhammad? Qur'an say no one can change the word of Allah, so why Bible was tampered with? because GOD knows that if he allows u to tamper with everything before the spirit of truth come it will be difficult for people to believe Yet the same God who can't allow anybody to tamper with Qur'an is so weak to allow another people to tamper with Bible. How does it sound? The next thing Muslim will do now is to claim all the prophecies in the Bible for saw or what did you people call him? 5 Likes |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 12:47pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Emusan:the more they use the bible to look for muhammad the more they make allah weaker. 2 Likes |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 1:02pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Emusan:as it is said in revelation 14:6 pls which angel is flying with the everlasting gospel that is gabriel who reveal the quran tomuhammad(saw) and what is the ever lasting gospel that is the quran the torah of moses and the injeel are just a warning to the bani israila just as it is said in the book of moses above that i will bring up a prophet like u from among my brethen......THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE BIBLE IS TAMPERED WITH THE BIBLE PERMIT ALCOHOL IT EVEN CALL GOD A DRUNKARD..... psalm 78:65 then the lord awoke as from sleep as a man wakes from the stupor of wine. See how Christians disgrace their God, also this Jeremiah 25:15-16 This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, said to me: “Take from my hand this cup filled with the wine of my wrath and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it.When they drink it, they will stagger and go mad because of the sword I will send among them.”Also in Jeremiah 25:27-28 Then tell them, ‘This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.’ .........SO U CAN SEE GOD KNOWS THE BANI ISRAILA WILL TAMPER HIS WORD THAT IS WHY HE BRING US THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL WHICH IS THE QURAN NO ONE HAS EVER TAMPERED IT,NO SINGLE CONTRADICTION EVEN UNITED STATE USE MILLIONS OF DOLLAR TO TEST WHAT THE QURAN SAY IN THE ASPECT OF SCIENCE THEY ARE LEFT WITH THEIR MOUTH OPEN BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE TRUTH AND THAT IS WHY ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN UNITED STATE REPENT AND FOLLOW THE TRUTH |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 2:44pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: as it is said in [size=14pt]revelation 14:6[/size] pls which angel is flying with the everlasting gospel that is gabriel who reveal the quran to muhammad(saw) Angel Jibril indeed....as if you believe in the written of John himself. and what is the ever lasting gospel that is the quran, the torah of moses and the injeel are just a warning to the bani israila just as it is said in the book of moses above that i will bring up a prophet like u from among my brethren Yet you said the torah and the Injil have been tampered with....Now they're part of everlasting gospel! Confusion. HIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE BIBLE IS TAMPERED WITH THE BIBLE PERMIT ALCOHOL IT EVEN CALL GOD A DRUNKARD..... psalm Straw man argument, how does these verses relate with tampering? SO U CAN SEE GOD KNOWS THE BANI ISRAILA WILL TAMPER [size=14pt]HIS WORD[/size] This is where I'm going and my question you didn't answer. 1) Quran says the word of Allah can't be change but because you want to prove that Allah is a liar you said Allah's word can be change. 2) How is it possible for Allah to protect Quran from being change and difficult for Allah to prevent your Bani Israel from tampering with its word? THAT IS WHY HE BRING US THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL WHICH IS THE QURAN NO ONE HAS EVER TAMPERED IT, This is the lie you're being feeding with, infact not that no one tampered with quran BUT Devil himself has his own writing inside Quran called satanic verses. NO SINGLE CONTRADICTION Maybe your problem is you don't browse other than Islamic site where contradiction in Quran will never mention....kindly do yourself a favour by typing "contradiction in quran" on Google maybe you will see any link pop up. EVEN UNITED STATE USE MILLIONS OF DOLLAR TO TEST WHAT THE QURAN SAY IN THE ASPECT OF SCIENCE THEY ARE LEFT WITH THEIR MOUTH OPEN BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE TRUTH AND THAT IS WHY ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN UNITED STATE Science when your book says earth is flat... Fast growing religion on paper, why not using Nigeria as an example? REPENT AND FOLLOW THE TRUTH Jesus says "Ye shall know The Truth and the Truth shall set you free" John 8:32 What is this truth that we shall know? Jesus answered the question "Jesus said unto him I am the Way, THE TRUTH, and the Life, no one come to the Father except through Him" John 14:6 Can you see who need to follow the Truth 5 Likes |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 2:45pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
malvisguy212: the more they use the bible to look for muhammad the more they make allah weaker. Don't mind him, he couldn't answer simple question. 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 5:20pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Emusan:bless you brother.he called muhammad the spirit of truth even dough he himself don't know the spirit of truth.muhammad is a false prophet according to quran29:27. |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 10:21pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Gentlemen, It'a always laughable when ignorant Muslims that listen to ignorant imams come online and post intellectually bankrupt references that they can't defend. The poster should tell us why His brothers in Iraq & Syria are beheading innocent people. He wouldn't talk about Mohammad marrying 6 year old kids and sleeping with them when they were 9 but he would "find" Mohammad in the Bible. . Mumuness is common in Islam |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:32pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Emusan:PLEASE POST THE EVIDENCE FOR ME JUST A SINGLE CONTRADICTION AND WHERE QURAN CONTRADICT SCIENCE.........IF JESUS SAY I AM THE WAY AND THE TRUTH WHOEVER FOLLOW ME SHALL NOT GO ASTRAY HE IS RIGHT BUT U MIS INTERPRET HIM WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THAT IF U FOLLOW HIS TEACHING U WILL NOT GO ASTRAY WHEN HE TALK ABOUT MUHAMMAD U DENY IT........WOO UNTO U |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:37pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
The prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18 continues. God says: "...I will put my words in his mouth..." 'Putting words in his mouth' - is one of the distinct divine knowledge of Allah to Prophet Muhammad, because, he was not Learned, and he can not carry the responsibility except Allah teaches him what to say! Consider the following in Isaiah 29:12, as I mentioned several times in my rebuttals above - In which, it had only happened to Prophet Muhammad in the Cave of Hira - when Angel Gabriel met him and asked him the following: 'READ', and Prophet Muhammad said: 'I AM NOT LEARNED', Angel Gabriel repeated three times the same word 'READ' and Prophet Muhammad was answering the same words: 'I AM NOT LEARNED.' Then later, Angel Gabriel proceeded: "Read in the name of your Lord Who created. He created man from a clot. Read and your Lord is Most Honorable, Who taught (to write) with the pen. Taught man what he knew not." (Qur'an 96:1-5) Telling to Prophet Muhammad to read is a clear indication that Angel Gabriel was putting God's words to prophet Muhammad's Mouth. And immediately after Angel Gabriel continued reciting the verses of Allah, then Prophet Muhammad rehearsed it and finally it remained in his memory by the help of Allah Almighty. And this was the beginning of the Qur'anic Revelation. If some one will read the whole Qur'an with spirit of understanding, will certainly find almost all the verses of the Qur'an were based on the command 'SAY' to, 'SAY' to, 'SAY' to... etc. means Allah is always the speaker and Prophet Muhammad is the repeater or conveyor of the message to the humanity. Examples of these verse are below: SAY, "He is Allah , [who is] One," [Qur'an 112:1] SAY, "It is only revealed to me that your god is but one God; so will you be Muslims [in submission to Him]?" [Qur'an 21:108] But if they turn away, then SAY, "I have announced to [all of] you equally. And I know not whether near or far is that which you are promised." [Qur'an 21:109] "And they SAY: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days:" Say: "Have ye taken a promise from Allah, for He never breaks His promise? or is it that ye say of Allah what ye do not know?" (Qur'an 2:80) "When it is said to them, "Believe in what Allah Hath sent down, "they say, "We believe in what was sent down to us:" yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. SAY: "Why then have ye slain the prophets of Allah in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?" (Qur'an 2:91) SAY, [O Muhammad], "If the home of the Hereafter with Allah is for you alone and not the [other] people, then wish for death, if you should be truthful." [Qur'an 2:94] SAY: "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah´s will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe," (Qur'an 2:97) SAY to those who disbelieve, "You will be overcome and gathered together to Hell, and wretched is the resting place." [Qur'an 3:12] SAY, "Shall I inform you of [something] better than that? For those who fear Allah will be gardens in the presence of their Lord beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally, and purified spouses and approval from Allah . And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants" [Qur'an 3:15] SAY, "Whether ye hide what is in your hearts or reveal it, Allah knows it all: He knows what is in the heavens, and what is on earth. And Allah has power over all things." (Qur'an 3:29) SAY, "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, SAY ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah´s Will)." (Qur'an 3:64) SAY: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)." (Qur'an 3:184) SAY: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things." (Qur'an 5:76) To bring all the verses which carried this kind of divine command 'SAY' in this book, cannot be possible, if we are to bring it here, it directly means - bringing the whole Qur'an, which is not possible. Therefore, the prophecy of Isaiah 29:12 and Deuteronomy 18:18 on "...I will put my words in his mouth..." only deserves and fits to Prophet Muhammad, not Prophet Jesus (peace and blessings of Allah be upon all of them) the way Christians blindly assert! The prophecy continues: "...and he will tell them everything I commands him." Those who know Qur’an, can give testimony on Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that, all what is inside it, is purely God’s words. You cannot see a single word of his speeches which Prophet Muhammad includes in the Qur’an. All his speeches and his activities were kept written in separate volume of books, called Hadith. And anything concerning his biography is written separate in form of books called (Siratun-Nabiyi), i.e. Books of biography of Prophet. It is not like a Bible, which comprises so many things, such as God’s word, Prophets’ Words and their activities. And descriptions of Paul’s Profile of which, is highly included in this present Bible – imagine even the descriptions of his family were included. That’s why, we Muslims do not believe that, the entire present Bible, as a whole as purely God’s word. Therefore, we can see, exactly in the Qur'an, anywhere Allah commands Prophet Muhammad with the command - 'SAY', and so he commanded his companions to write the verse, in the same format the way it comes with the word of command (SAY), without reducing or adding to the commands. Allah Himself is a Witness of the truthfulness of Prophet Muhammad. Allah says: "I swear by the star when it goes down." (Qur'an 53:1) (English - Shakir) "Your companion does not err, nor does he go astray;" (Qur'an 53:2) (English - Shakir) "Nor does he speak out of desire." (Qur'an 53:3) (English - Shakir) "It is naught but revelation that is revealed," (Qur'an 53:4) (English - Shakir) "The Lord of Mighty Power has taught him," (Qur'an 53:5) (English - Shakir) "The Lord of Strength; so he attained completion," (Qur'an 53:6) (English - Shakir) Therefore, the whole prophecies of Deuteronomy 18:18, only fit to Prophet Muhammad, not Jesus! And the above facts refuted their assertion of these prophecies on Prophet Jesus, in order to mislead the mankind from understanding what God truly means in the verse. A WARNING ON THOSE WHO REFUSED TO HEAR THE GOD’S WORDS THROUGH THIS PROPHET: Jerusalem Bible says: “The man who does not listen to my words that he speaks in my name, shall be held answerable to me for it.” (Deuteronomy 18:19) The Revised Standard Version says: “And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him” (Deuteronomy 18:19) – (NIV) New International Version says: “If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy 18:19) But in the case is different in Catholic Bible, the ending words are: “GOD WILL BE THE REVENGER.” Here it is: "And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in my name, I will be the revenger." (Deuteronomy 18:19) (Catholic Bible) Note God said: "...he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in my name..." The point of view here is that, '...which he shall speak in my name...'! Who speaks in God's name? The following facts will certainly tell us the person who speaks in God's name: Any body who reads Qur'an with understanding will certainly give the answer! In the whole Qur'an, every Chapter of the Qur'an begins with the following formula: 'BISMILLAHIR RAHMANIR RAHEEM' Means - In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful or In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. What does the prophecy require? - it says: "...which he shall speak in my name..." In whose name Prophet Muhammad speaks here? Before Prophet Muhammad recites any verse of the Qur'an he says 'IN THE NAME OF Allah THE MOST GRACIOUS THE MOST MERCIFUL' - except in chapter number 9 of the Qur'an, it is only in the chapter Allah did not command him to say the formula. Moreover, when Prophet Muhammad wants to do any thing, he used to begin with the formula: 'BISMILLAH' - means - 'IN THE NAME OF Allah' But the reverse is the case, when Christians want to say or do something, they begin with: 'IN JESUS NAME' or 'IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON AND THE HOLY GHOST.' Therefore, the prophecy says: "And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in my name, I will be the revenger." Simply means - he that will not hear (Muhammad's words - who speaks in Allah's name), Allah will be the revenger - means Allah will not forgive him - which means Allah will punish him/her in the day of Judgement, if they die in their denial against his words! The above verse also confirms what Allah says in the Qur'an 68:44 & 45: "So leave Me, [O Muhammad], with [the matter of] whoever denies the Qur'an. We will progressively lead them [to punishment] from where they do not know. And I will give them time. Indeed, My plan is firm." Are these verses of Deuteronomy 18:19 (Catholic) and of Qur'an 68:44 & 45 not enough to frighten the unbelievers? Even Paul in his write-ups said: "Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from among his people.'" ( Act 3:23 ) (N.I.V.) "Indeed, all the prophets from Samuel on, as many as have spoken, have foretold these days." ( Act 3:24 ) (N.I.V.) Consequently, Allah reminds the Children of Israel about the truth of Prophet Muhammad's advent they found in their Scriptures. Allah says in the Qur'an: "And believe in what I have revealed (now) confirming (the prophecies of the Scripture) which are (already) with you, and do not be the first to deny it, neither take a paltry price for My Messages, and Me alone you should take as a shield (for protection)." (Qur'an 2:41, English - Amatul Rahman Omar) "Do not confound the truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth knowingly." (Qur'an 2:42, English - Amatul Rahman Omar) "And be steadfast in prayer; practise regular charity; and bow down your heads with those who bow down (in worship)." (Qur'an 2:43, English - Yusuf Ali) Note: Indeed, the Bible and the Qur'an have spoken the truth of the advent of Prophet Muhammad! And it is compulsory to listen and follow him, as stated in the verse. If you look in the different translations of Deuteronomy 18:19: "The man who does not listen to my words that he speaks in my name, shall be held answerable to me for it." - Jerusalem Version If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” - New International Version But the warning is highly extreme in the Catholic Bible: "And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in my name, I will be the revenger." - Catholic Version Does this not terrify you? That God himself would call you to account or to take revenge against you. These words are enough for you to fear Allah and fear the day of Judgment that, surely would come! |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 3:17am On Sep 03, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: The prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18 continues. God says: All this rubbish to prove that a 7th century illiterate is in the Bible. If you have some time, open the Bible and see what it says: Deuteronomy 18:18-22 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Let me give you several reasons why The God of the Bible doesn't choose men that sleep with 9 year old girls as his prophets: 1. When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic - The prophets of God knows the voice of God and when He calls them. They can clearly distinguish between demons and the one true God 2. Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff - The prophets of God are not suicidal, they don't try to kill themselves because God spoke to them. 3. According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses" - The God of the Bible doesn't tell His prophets that it is okay to worship idols and worship Him as well. Christians don't engage in idolatry and Paganism, they believe in the one true God. 4. Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs - The true God prophets don't fall under magic spell or juju. We don't deal with juju in the Bible, neither does God prophets deal with juju or are influenced by juju. 5. Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers - Only God is to be adored, honored and worshiped. Muslims have given Mohammad the ascension of God and free of error when in truth he was a sinner 6. Mohammad said if a man sleeps with his wife and ejaculate.s 1st, the child will look like the man. If the woman ejaculate.s 1st, the child would look like the mother - Genetics and DNA are the reasons we resemble our parents and sexual pleasure has nothing to do with it. 7. The Qur'an affirms the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Jewish and Christian scriptures (3:3-4; 5:43-47; 5:68; 6:114-115; 7:157; 10:94; 18:27; etc.). Yet our scriptures plainly declare that Muhammad is a false prophet and an antichrist. Problem? 8. In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed. 9. The central argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an is the "Argument from Literary Excellence," which is absurd on multiple levels. 10. The Qur'an claims that Alexander the Great and Aesop were devout Muslims - Una no sabi history. Alexander the great was a pagan 11. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation 12. The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent sexual misconduct. 13. Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha - How can Mohammad then be the one mentioned in Deuto 18:18. God prophets don't sleep with children 14. Muhammad married the divorced wife of his own adopted son (after Muhammad caused the divorce), and the Qur'an offers an absurd defense of Muhammad's actions. 15. When Muhammad's wives asked why he was giving special privileges to Aisha, he justified his actions by saying that he received revelations while wearing Aisha's dress! - God condemns men that wear women clothing and women that wear men clothing. If you want more reasons why Mohammad is not mentioned or inferred in the Bible and why he is not a prophet to Christians or Jews; I will be happy to oblige your ignorance and stupidi.ty 5 Likes |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 8:23am On Sep 03, 2014 |
cloudstar:Bros. God bless you.permit me to copy and paste it. |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 8:53am On Sep 03, 2014 |
You keep dodging my questions? Abdulsalam20: PLEASE POST THE EVIDENCE FOR ME JUST A SINGLE CONTRADICTION AND WHERE QURAN CONTRADICT SCIENCE I don't need to do that for you, Google is your friend. IF JESUS SAY I AM THE WAY AND THE TRUTH WHOEVER FOLLOW ME SHALL NOT GO ASTRAY HE IS RIGHT BUT U MIS INTERPRET HIM Truly I misinterpreted Him but it's you who fully understood Him talking about Muhammad. SMH WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THAT IF U FOLLOW HIS TEACHING U WILL NOT GO ASTRAY You're right! and you can compare His teaching with that of your saw to see which one is the TRUTH. WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT MUHAMMAD U DENY IT........WOO UNTO U So how did you know Jesus talk about your saw? |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:33pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
cloudstar:FOOL AS I HAVE LWAYS SAID ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I DID U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT.....AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE cloudstar: If you want more reasons why Mohammad is not mentioned or inferred in the Bible and why he is not a prophet to Christians or Jews; I will be happy to oblige your ignorance and stupidi.ty FOOL AS I HAVE LWAYS SAID ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I DID U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT.....AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE[/color] cloudstar:FOOL AS I HAVE ALWAYS SAID ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I A WAYS DID......... U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT.....AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE PLEASE QUOTE REFERENCE...BECAUSE ALL THIS U POSTED ARE FALACY |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 5:03pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Muhammad's first revelation According to Islam , Muhammad's first revelation was the event in which Muhammad was visited by the Arch-angel Gabriel who revealed to him a verse from the Quran . The event took place in a cave called Hira , located on the mountain called Jabal an-Nour, near Mecca. According to biographies of Muhammad, while on retreat in a mountain cave (cave of Hira) near Mecca, the Arch-angel Gabriel appears to him and commands him to recite the first lines of chapter 96 of the Quran. Muhammad's experience is mentioned in the Quran 53:4-9: [1] Before the revelation Muhammad was born and raised in Mecca. When He was nearly 40, he used to spend many hours alone in prayer and speculating over the aspects of creation. [2] He was concerned with the social unrest , injustice, widespread discrimination (particularly against women ), fighting among tribes and abuse of tribal authorities prevalent in pre- Islamic Arabia .[3] The moral degeneration of his fellow people, and his own quest for a true religion further lent fuel to this, with the result that he now began to withdraw periodically to a cave named Mount Hira , three miles north of Mecca, for contemplation and reflection. [4] Islamic tradition holds that Muhammad during this period began to have dreams replete with spiritual significance which were fulfilled according to their true import; and this was the commencement of his divine revelation.[5][2] This created inclination in him to engage himself in solitary worshipping. [6] The first revelation According to Islamic tradition, during one such occasion while he was in contemplation, the archangel Gabriel appeared before him in the year 610 CE and said, ‘Recite’, upon which he replied, ‘I am unable to recite’. Thereupon the angel caught hold of him and embraced him heavily. This happened two more time after which the angel commanded Muhammad to recite the following verses : [7][8][9] After the revelation Perplexed by this new experience, Muhammad made his way to home where he was consoled by his wife Khadijah, who also took him to her Ebionite cousin Waraqah ibn Nawfal. Waraqah was familiar with Jewish and Christian scriptures. Islamic tradition holds that Waraqah, upon hearing the description, testified to Muhammad's prophethood, [2][11] and convinced Muhammad that the revelation was from God. [12] Waraqah said: "O my nephew! What did you see?" When Muhammad told him what had happened to him, Waraqah replied: "This is Namus (meaning Gabriel) that Allah sent to Moses. I wish I were younger. I wish I could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Muhammad asked: "Will they drive me out?" Waraqah answered in the affirmative and said: "Anyone who came with something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility; and if I should be alive until that day, then I would support you strongly." A few days later Waraqah died. [13] The initial revelation was followed by a pause and a second encounter with Gabriel when Muhammad heard a voice from the sky and saw the same angel "sitting between the sky and the earth" and the revelations resumed with the first verses of chapter 74. At-Tabari and Ibn Hisham reported that Muhammad left the cave of Hira after being surprised by the revelation, but later on, returned to the cave and continued his solitude, though subsequently he returned to Mecca . Tabari and Ibn Ishaq write that Muhammad told Zubayr:[13] "when I was midway on the mountain, I heard a voice from heaven saying "O Muhammad! you are the apostle of Allah and I am Gabriel." I raised my head towards heaven to see who was speaking, and Gabriel in the form of a man with feet astride the horizon, saying, "O Muhammad! you are the apostle of Allah and I am Gabriel." I stood gazing at him moving neither forward nor backward, then I began to turn my face away from him, but towards whatever region of the sky I looked, I saw him as before." There is doubt about the period of time between Muhammad's first and second experiences of revelation. Ibn Ishaq writes that three years elapsed from the time that Muhammad received the first revelation until he started to preach publicly. Bukhari takes chapter 74 as the second revelation however chapter 68 has strong claims to be the second revelation.[14].........SOURCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE; www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad's_first_revelation |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 8:17pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I A WAYS DID When an evidence is being provided now you'll begin to sing another song. U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE Imaging Christian website, so all what your OP say are they from Christian website or not JAMAL BADAWI an Islamic work? ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT What does this has to do with issue at hand? AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO I quote you purposely because of this particular statement, is like you want to know the truth which most biased Muslim scholars always hide from their readers. Firstly, the first thing to know is that Bible always gives the accurate and complete view within itself without throwing its reader into total darkness LIKE QUR'AN always does! Secondly, Bible itself answers your question which Muslim scholars have hidden from people like you BUT ONLY if you'll not reject it as they do. Lastly, I'll give detail of it begin from Jesus Himself. 1) Jesus Himself made the statement about Moses wrote prophecy about Him..."For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed ME: for he(Moses) wrote of ME." John 5:46 2) Philip is one of the disciples of Jesus Christ but before he became Jesus' disciple he said this to Nathanel ..."Philip findeth Nathaniel, and saith unto him, we have found him, of whom MOSES in the law, and the PROPHETS, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph." John 1:45 3) Peter is one of the companions of Jesus Christ and he's the one who even QUOTE THE SAME Deuteronomy verbatim...."For MOSES truly said unto the fathers, A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your BRETHREN, like unto me;...Acts 3:22-23 You can see that the answer have a strong Biblical support than the twisted one done by Muslim scholars in propagating their false religion. NOTE: The fulfilment of Deuteronomy wasn't a cook up by Christian theologians BUT a plain statement within the Bible itself. U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE Do you know the TRUTH? PLEASE QUOTE REFERENCE...BECAUSE ALL THIS U POSTED ARE FALACY Many references are online, but you're already discriminating by saying "Christian website" so if someone gave it, it will just be a waste of time. |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by true2god: 9:11pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Emusan:I thought his other name is p.b.u.h, i never knew he also answer s.a.w. The Mo' guy has many monikers. |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by true2god: 9:14pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
malvisguy212: the more they use the bible to look for muhammad the more they make allah weaker.Funny. Muslims keep fooling themselves looking for Mohd in the bible in order to validate his prophethood at all cost. |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:21pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Emusan: When an evidence is being provided now you'll begin to sing another song. Imaging Christian website, so all what your OP say are they from Christian website or not JAMAL BADAWI an Islamic work? What does this has to do with issue at hand? I quote you purposely because of this particular statement, is like you want to know the truth which most biased Muslim scholars always hide from their readers. Firstly, the first thing to know is that Bible always gives the accurate and complete view within itself without throwing its reader into total darkness LIKE QUR'AN always does! Secondly, Bible itself answers your question which Muslim scholars have hidden from people like you BUT ONLY if you'll not reject it as they do. Lastly, I'll give detail of it begin from Jesus Himself. 1) Jesus Himself made the statement about Moses wrote prophecy about Him..."For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed ME: for he(Moses) wrote of ME." John 5:46 2) Philip is one of the disciples of Jesus Christ but before he became Jesus' disciple he said this to Nathanel ..."Philip findeth Nathaniel, and saith unto him, we have found him, of whom MOSES in the law, and the PROPHETS, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph." John 1:45 3) Peter is one of the companions of Jesus Christ and he's the one who even QUOTE THE SAME Deuteronomy verbatim...."For MOSES truly said unto the fathers, A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your BRETHREN, like unto me;...Acts 3:22-23 You can see that the answer have a strong Biblical support than the twisted one done by Muslim scholars in propagating their false religion. NOTE: The fulfilment of Deuteronomy wasn't a cook up by Christian theologians BUT a plain statement within the Bible itself. Do you know the TRUTH? Many references are online, but you're already discriminating by saying "Christian website" so if someone gave it, it will just be a waste of time.THAT IS WHY I SAID THE BILE IS NO MORE HOLY EXCEPT SOME FEW PART OF IT BT U CHRISTIAN SAID JESUS IS SON OF GOD AND GOD THAT HE IS NOT A PROPHET SO HOW COME U CALL HIM A PROPHET NOW AND WHO TELL U WE DID NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS JESUS IS A PROPHET BUT U PEOPLE CAL HIM GOD JESUS IS NOT DEAD U SAID HE IS DEAD(watch out for my next topic)....... i even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran {3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in: Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have ever seen………….. Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe: for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery! What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus 22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah, Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people (imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen! Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down (rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT AN ANTICHRIST.....EVEN THOUGH U PEOPLE TAMPER THE BIBLE THE TRUTH WILL SHOW IT SELF 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by true2god: 9:34pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Bros. God bless you.permit me to copy and paste it.On behalf of cloudstar, permission granted. No copyright violated for the copy and paste, as long as it assist unmask islamic lies and the sins of the gangster, mohammed (spit be upon him). |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 11:46pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Bros. God bless you.permit me to copy and paste it. Permission granted! |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 11:53pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: FOOL AS I HAVE LWAYS SAID ALL THIS U SAID IS RUBBISH NO QURAN OR HADITH TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM JUST LIKE I DID U JUST COPIED IT FROM CHRISTIAN WEBSITE WHERE IS UR REFERENCE ALL THIS U POSTED PLEASE ARE U AN UNDERGRADUATE OR A GRADUATE HOW WILL/DID U COPE WITH UR PROJECT.....AFTER A VISIBLE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO U PLS WHO IS THE DEUTRONOMY VERSE REFERRING TO U BETTER SAY THE TRUTH AND BE FREE[color=#006600] Bros, abeg - review the topics that I have been engaged in with your likes. When you are done, come back again and try to debate me. I debate objective individuals. If it's the Hadith you want us to review and study; I can provide authentic narrations from Hadiths such as Al-Bukhari which is accepted by nearly all schools of Islamic jurisprudence. Here is the Hadith proving that Mohammad slept with Aisha when she was 9: Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236) Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88) It is also recorded and narrated from Sunan Abu Dawud, another authoritative Hadith Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Number 2116) So, please read your Islamic history before you come here and make yourself look silly. You are already good at that . If you want to engage me in an objective debate, I will be more than happy to produce evidence only from Islamic sources for your reference |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by malvisguy212: 7:27am On Sep 04, 2014 |
Cloudstar and Tru2god. Thank. God bless you guys. |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:23am On Sep 04, 2014 |
cloudstar:U TRIED TO DODGE THE ALLEGDED ANTI CHRIST THAT YOU ARE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE A LADY IS DEEM FIT FOR MARRIAGE WHEN SHE ATTAIN PUBERTY EVEN THIS HAS BEEN WIDELY PRACTICED IN MANY COUNTRIES NOW I WILL EXPLAIN THE FACT FOR U IN DETAIL BELOW 1-It was a divine inspiration: Before describing the rationale behind this married relation, let it be known that the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) married Sayyida Aisha not of his own desire rather it was a Divine inspiration. Read the following Hadith; Narrated ‘Aisha: That the Prophet said to her, “You have been shown to me twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and some-one said (to me). ‘This is your wife.’ When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, ‘If this is from Allah, it will be done.” {Bukhari :: Volume 5 :: Book 58 :: Hadith 235} 2-It was not out of his physical desires: The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) did not marry Sayyidah Aisha out of his physical desires. One need to note that for first 54 years of his life he had only one wife. His only wife till 50th year of his life was Sayyida Khadija. He spent his entire youth with her and she was a two time widowed woman, 15 years elder to him. For next four years his only wife was Sayyidah Sa’uda. 3-Age of Marriage in Old Ages: One must first understand that 1400 years ago was very different than now, times have changed and so have humans. 1400 years ago it was something very common to marry young girls, in fact they were not considered young girls, and rather they were considered young women back then. It is a historic fact that girls from the ages of 9 to 14 were being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa, in fact even in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being married just more than a century ago. Yet with these facts no historian claims that all these people were sick perverts, historians would call anyone who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid who has no grasp or understanding of history. Even in Indo-Pak Sub-Continent girls used to be married at 12-13 even 50-60 years ago. And those ‘girls’ infact raised much better families. There were less family problems then. A simple analyses of the divorce rate then and know would certainly make it clear that maturity level earlier used to be different i.e. people used to come of age rather quickly. 4-Child Brides in Byzantine Empire: http://www.roman-emperors.org/aggiefran.htm Visit this link to see how common were the child brides in the Byzantine Empire.This article clearly states;”Child brides, whether Byzantines or foreign princesses, were the norm rather than the exception, especially from the late twelfth century”. 5-The Pagans of the Prophet’s time: The fact that it was a completely acceptable thing can also be seen from the response of the pagans at that time. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet’s marriage was:1-People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.2-Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many non- Muslim and Muslim countries 6-Engagement with Jubair bin Mutim: It ought also be noted that Sayyidah Aisha ( RA) was engaged to Jubayr son of Mut’im before Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him. This indicates the age of marriage and engagement in Prophet’s time. However, the engagement was later nullified by Jubayr’s parents due to Abu Bakr (RA) embracing Islam.Doesn’t this indicate there was nothing bad in marrying a 9 year girl at that time?She must have been even younger when she was engaged to Jubair 7-Sayyidah Aisha was fit for marriage: Furthermore as to the Holy Prophet’s marriage with Sayyidah Aisha, something people will notice is that the completion of the marriage was done when Sayyidah Aisha was 9 years old, not when she was 6, and there is a reason for that. The reason why this happened is because Sayyidah Aisha had been through puberty by the age of 9, and in Islam a female who under-goes puberty is considered a lady and is fit for marriage. If we read the hadiths, we find that right before Sayyidah Aisha got married off to the Holy Prophet that she was sick and not feeling too well: Narrated Sayyidah Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al- Harith bin Khazraj then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.” {Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234} So as we can see, Sayyidah Aisha got ill and her body was going through some changes, indicating that she was going through her puberty. 8-Sayyida Aisha never showed her displeasure: Another striking thing to observe is that among hundreds of her narrations there is not even a single one showing her displeasure about this marriage. Hence, she had no problem with this relation. Infect it is manifest from several traditions that she loved the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) too much and even felt some sort of jealousy when she found others around him. Does this not prove that she was extremely happy about this marriage? So, when she herself had no problem at all then what’s the matter of concern for others? 9-A 9-year old Thai girl gave birth: A 9 old girl can become a mother. If you don’t believe me then see here is the proof; The news item is from the New Straits Times, 10/3/2001. In our world today, we still have people who marry very young girls. Why should we object to someone who married a 9-year old girl 1400 years ago, when we still practice it today? The girl above even gave birth at the age of 9! 10-It was absolutely legal: Prophet Muhammad’s marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions. It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into “women”, then they get married off. It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage. That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older. The culture back then and in many of the world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.And there is no divine law which is broken in marrying a girl of nine at any costs. 11-Her parents never objected: Sayyidah Aisha’s mother and the Muslim women back then were O.K with her marriage. It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age. When a girl’s body starts showing up (her breasts and her height and physical size), then she would be ready for marriage The only reason why Sayyidah Aisha’s father, Abu Baker Al Sidique, broke her engagement with Jober is because he was a non-Muslim. Later, a woman named Kholeah Bint Hakeem suggested for Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to marry Sayyidah Aisha, because the Prophet and Abu Baker became best friends. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) engaged Sayyidah Aisha for 3 years before he married her. 12-Muslims never concealed it: Had there been any bad thinking regarding this marriage in minds of the people at that time. Muslims would have tried there best to conceal at that time. But they didn’t. 13-Refuting unjust Pagan views: There were many baseless traditions in practice among the Arabs in those days. So Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was usually ordered by the Almighty ALLAH to refute such traditions through personal examples. Similar is the case of Prophet Muhammad’s marriage with Umm al Momineen Aisha (R.A.) 1-For a bad omen, Arab considered Shawwal a month prohibited for marriage. Sayyidah A’isha’s betrothal and departure from her parent’s house took place in Shawwal. This changed the ridiculous custom. 2-Another bad custom was that the Arabs did not give the hands of their daughters to those who they “called” their brothers (though were not actual brothers). This was the objection raised by Abu Bakr himself, when the Prophet (peace be upon him) made the proposal. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) then told him that a brother in faith was not an actual blood brother to be placed in the prohibited category. 14-Great Wisdom behind this marriage: Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) marriage with Sayyidah Aisha at that age was indeed a great blessings for all the Muslims ever since. Most of the matters related to cleanliness, married relationship and other household issues have been cleared due to her narrations. She lived a long time after the death of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) and continued to teach the Ummah about matters of daily routine and great importance. 15-What was Sayyidah Aisha famous for ?? Well what was her specialty? I ask the critics. Was it beauty? Was it wealth? No it was religion!Thus proving the DIVINE LOGIC. Arwa Bin Zubair says, “I did not find anyone more proficient (than Aisha ) in the knowledge of the Holy Quran, the Commandments of Halal (lawful) and Haram (prohibited), Ilmul-Ansab and Arabic poetry. That is why, even senior companions of the Prophet used to consult Aisha in resolving intricate issues”. (Jala-ul-Afham by Ibn Qaiyem and Ibn Sa’ad, Vol.2, p.26) Also see this; Abu Musa al-Ashari says: “Never had we (the companions) any difficulty for the solution of which we approached Aisha and did not get some useful information from her”. (Sirat-I-Aisha, on the authority of Trimidhi, pg. 163) INDEED ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST!!! |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Emusan(m): 12:08pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: THAT IS WHY I SAID THE BILE IS NO MORE HOLY EXCEPT SOME FEW PART OF IT BT U CHRISTIAN SAID JESUS IS SON OF GOD AND GOD THAT HE IS NOT A PROPHET SO HOW COME U CALL HIM A PROPHET NOW AND WHO TELL U WE DID NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS JESUS IS A PROPHET BUT U PEOPLE CAL HIM GOD JESUS IS NOT DEAD U SAID HE IS DEAD(watch out for my next topic)....... You should have asked Christian before you say this trash. "Bible is no more holy except some few part" I know you made this state to further to deceive yourself about Muhammad in the Bible, it's illogical to believe that a book that is corrupted still prophesied the coming of Muhammad. i even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran {3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in: Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have ever seen………….. Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe: for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery! What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus 22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah, Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people (imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen! Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down (rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT AN ANTICHRIST.....EVEN THOUGH U PEOPLE TAMPER THE BIBLE THE TRUTH WILL SHOW IT SELF You believe in quranic jesus your fake prophet tells you not the one who died on the Cross for the salvation of your soul. No wonder Allah Itself pray. If you can't answer all my questions stop quoting me. Ok! |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by cloudstar: 3:56pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20 D U TRIED TO DODGE THE ALLEGDED ANTI CHRIST THAT YOU ARE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE A LADY IS DEEM FIT FOR MARRIAGE WHEN SHE ATTAIN PUBERTY EVEN THIS HAS BEEN WIDELY PRACTICED IN MANY COUNTRIES Malu - a girl has young as 6 can start growing hair under her arm-pit; does that mean she is ready for marriage or sex.ual intercourse? Pedo-phile.s such as yourself as the reason the Muslim world has the issue with grown old men marrying kids. Later, you will tell us that Islam is for everyone. |
Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Sovet: 4:41am On Sep 05, 2014 |
True, God blessed Ishmael because he was the seed of Abraham but had no covenant of prophethood with him. His covenant was with Isaac. Both the bible and quran confirm it (Gen. 17:19-21, Quran 29:27). God could not have sent a prophet through Ishmael seed, i.e Muhammad. 2 Likes |
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