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Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 1:43pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
mployer:This isn't a gender based argument, please let's not lose sight of that. We're trying to establish if people have a right to expect more from those they are in a relationship with. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by bukatyne(f): 1:46pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
jmoore: Is dependence only money wise? What about ideas, love, commitment, care etc? What if tomorrow things go south, will you not require help? Even God needs us humans to praise Him. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by PStacks(m): 1:51pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Ordinarily, every woman still end up under a man's roof, so it might depend on what you mean by "Independent" cos women from the beginning of Time must depend on Men. God didn't make Adam for Eve, he made Eve for Adam.. When women scream gender equality, Marginalisation, I just laff at them.. I read one Omotola Jalade Ekehide's article and I was glad a woman could reason like she did.. If u ask me, that's the kind of woman I'l take for an independent lady, provided u know ur role is to be second to the man, your role is for support and the man is still got the final say.. Women can say whatever, but the truth is.. Its a man's World. Adam was created before Eve. Kapish. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 1:53pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
jmoore:Why don't you leave greed and deal with the question of independence first eh? |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Nobody: 1:53pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Caracta: Dad brought me up that way! Even most times when he repairs the generator or does some carpentry works , I've gotta be by his side. Sometimes when any repairer comes to do some work and I tend to know a bit of what they do na so dem go dey look me one kind eye I go come change dey act like mumu wey no know anything, they will then relax. most guys want a damsel in distress! They want you to need them or something! They see you as too full of oneself! So sometimes I just fake that I need them at that point in time so there will be peace I don't know! 1 Like |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by jmoore(m): 1:54pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
bukatyne: She should be contented with what she got. Some guys like me ain't spending till marriage. That's our precaution to get rid of girls who see relationship as a job opportunity. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Misogynist2014(m): 1:54pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:Hmm. I haven't seen a self sufficient man call a jobless but prudent and caring woman 'liability.' |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by ColdCloud(m): 1:54pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Worthless and purposeless thread. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 1:57pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
DailyNews:And men don't want their women for support? To be there when the going gets tough? To serve as their anchors? If that isn't dependence, I don't know what is. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 1:59pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Misogynist2014:Which is why I keep telling men here not to limit themselves to career women. If they think that's how much of an asset a woman should be, then some of them to leave their homes before they even have the chance to build it. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by jmoore(m): 2:01pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:But it was greed that inspired this thread. Talking about independence, when woman needs money from him it is "spending" but when the man needs money from her it is "lending". |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 2:05pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
freecocoa:Ese jare. Everything is just restricted to money today; even from people who have no financial worth, but are scared they won't have sense enough to preserve it when money comes knocking. I say men and women are interdependent. If you're afraid your money will go down the drain, then find a prudent woman. She might not be making so much for herself, nor have a job, but she's a good financial manager. With her you have nothing to fear. If you restrict yourself to how much she can make for herself, how does that even guarantee a happy relationship? Men need to wise up, seriously! |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 2:09pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
jmoore:And who's to say it's greed? Just because people are so used to lying to themselves, doesn't mean some aren't okay with expressing their disappointment. When you walk into a relationship of any kind, you do so with expectations. They aren't always met, and you rationalize and tell yourself why you have no right to be upset. But you were upset! And the simple fact that you had that emotional reaction establishes that people are responsible for one another; and to a greater degree when they make commitment of any sort to each other. So yes, a bf-gf relationship isn't so different from an actual marriage....with the exception of legal documents. If it were, then we wouldn't have people breaking up for emotional reasons all the time, and many others using it as their basis of choosing a spouse. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Nobody: 2:09pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
I was here |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by link2jude(m): 2:10pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Do independent women really exist? If yes, please give local examples otherwise you're talking ********* |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 2:15pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Caracta:Going into a relationship with them is reason enough to earn that privilege. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Nobody: 2:15pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:The word: industrious woman is more sensible/dignifying than “independent woman”. “Independent woman” is a fallacious phrase created by some presumed proponents of failed feminism campaign. There's nothing like independent woman because every woman depends on a man financially/materially/intellectually, but not all men are dependent on women financially/materially/intellectually |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by jmoore(m): 2:16pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:To me bf-gf relationship is very different from marriage. When she becomes my wife then I can give her a blank cheque. But as a gf, she should be contented with what she got. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 2:21pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
DailyNews:Of course I agree with you about independence being a fallacy. I feel the same way about freedom too. But where you think men don't depend on women or need them? Nah that's a lie you men tell yourselves to feel powerful and in control |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 2:22pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
jmoore:I'm assuming you don't have a girl friend then. But in case I'm wrong, you mind telling me why you have one? And if I'm right, mind telling me why you don't have one? |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by yungmill(m): 2:24pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Every man needs a woman with self esteem one that won't sell herself short There is nothing like independence in a relationship as in one way or the other help must be required and given. What men wants is a woman whom can stand her ground and make things happen not just 4 herself but for the relationship just like the guy, not one that would be a lazy leach and lay claims to the guys belongings like he has put a ring on it Am not saying a guy should not spend on his girl, am only saying a relationship is a test run to marriage and if he can spend on u and show u he can take care of a family he expects his lady to do so too, not just to sit and leach off him |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by jamillion: 2:26pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
The word "Independent" does not exist even if it does its just being use for emphasis during comunication for easy apprehension, every living creatures must depend on one another in other to be mutually benefits frm each other which form our ecosystem, directly or indirectly we ar all connected. Quot me wrong 1 Like |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Nobody: 2:28pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:majority of mature men who have good means of income don't care if a woman has money or not! It is women and their parasitic and greedy lifestyle over time that made some men to start considering a financially productive woman as a best option for marriage...yet, many guys I know don't care but just want a productive lady to ensure she isn't into them outrightly cos of financial gains. Me, I don't care if she has 1naira or not, but I will be glad if she's from a good family background to ensure that she was well trained and won't turn me into her family's breadwinner cos it hurts to discover that d only reason a woman married u is to help foot her family's bills. Humility, ability to submit, love for kids, good kitchen skills, good communication skills, good family background, fear of God, respect for men (not just me), respect for elders, always smiling, and being more happy than serious all d time is all what I and many guys I know are looking for in a woman, not her money (peanut money self) No mind me o |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by jmoore(m): 2:33pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:I have never been in a relationship. My mind is focused on marriage and not this 21st century dating stuff. When I am ready for marriage, I will find her and in less than 6 months the wedding is done. 1 Like |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Nobody: 2:34pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:lolz, for sure men and women need each other emotionally that one isn't dependence na, aside that one, most men no even need woman in their life |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Nobody: 2:37pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
DrJoe1:I gotta quote you elsewhere 1 Like |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Nobody: 2:40pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
jmoore:hehe, Jmoore, abeg o, if u don't have enough cash now eh, pls n pls make it a top priority to find a girlfriend o, I am serious cos if u eventually succeed in getting some cash, acquiring good ride/crib and have no existing good girlfriend u can reckon on, my brother u will be confused! In fact, ur name will become confusion cos all ladies u will be meeting will all be forming too angelic that u won't even know who is who again; and its so scary! So start now o to de find o, dnt wait till d money arrives cos its risky, unless u are ready to stay single for long, though it hurts sometimes wen u see ur mates with their pretty kids, chei |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by mployer(m): 2:43pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle: I have no problem with your argument as long you maintain the same stance when the table turns. When it becomes a question of whether the man should expect a form of assistance from the lady while in a relationship. Lets say I trust you will. But sincerely many proponents of this your kind of argument tend to get biased when the table turns. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Misogynist2014(m): 2:46pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:This is what I tag as the 'rhapsody of realities.' I wish to feel like a man by taking care of my woman, but the economic situation makes it look like wishful thinking. I get angry when my female pals say its a man's job to take care of a woman, though no one prays for a 'feminist terrorist,' it sounds appropriate for you to at least 'STAND ON YOUR OWN' |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by UjSizzle(f): 2:47pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
mployer:It works both ways for the sexes. If you want a husband, then be ready to act as a wife too and vice versa. |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by Ifystar: 2:52pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Lordabas: Well said Lordabas. 1 Like |
Re: How Do You Define An Independent Woman?. by mployer(m): 2:54pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
UjSizzle:ok. Have a nice time |
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