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Does Justification By Faith Abolish The Sabbath? by otr1(m): 6:46pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
Paul said a man is not justified by the work of the law but through faith in Jesus(Gal. 2:16), but does being justified by faith mean a Christian is free to sin as much as he or she pleases? Paul didn't think so. "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace might increase?... (Rom. 6:12) How does this arguement prove that Christians need not observe the Sabbath, but still avoid adultery, theft and murder? Just because obeying a law doesn't justify us doesn't mean we don't have to obey it. Law can't save us, but it tell us what to do and not do. James explained that the Law was a spiritual mirror that tells us how to improve our behavior. He called it the "Law of Liberty". (James 1:25) the Law defines sin(Rom. 7:7, 5:12, 3:20, 4:15). Hence if Jesus' death cancelled the whole law, not just the penalty of the law assessed for violating it when one accepts His sacrifice by faith, no one would have sinned since His death and resurrection in AD 31. It's necessary to carefully analyze soteriologically, terms such as "grace," "law," faith," "repentance," and "justification," and put them into their correct logical relationship with each other. True sabbath obeying doesn't earn salvation, neither does avoiding adultery or murder. But God still wants us to obey all Ten Commandments nevertheless. Didn't Jesus keep the Sabbath? (Luke 4:16; Mark 2:27-28) Having Jesus in us doesn't mean we don't need to make conscious efforts to overcome sin. Christians are not under the law, but under grace, true, but how does this principle releases us from obeying the sabbath, but not from avoiding adultery? Paul made a point of anticipating how this principle could be abused in Romans 6:15. Paul uses the term "under the law" in places to a state in which someone hasn't been forgiven for their sins and is still not reconciled to God by accepting Jesus. The law defines what is and what isn't sin, since sin is lawlessness (1 John 3:4) Since "the requirement of the law would be fulfilled 1 Like |
Re: Does Justification By Faith Abolish The Sabbath? by otr1(m): 6:50pm On Mar 13, 2015 |
...in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the spirit"-Rom 8:4- Christians are to stop sinning. The overwhelming point of (Gal. 4:4, 21) was to prove that Gentiles didn't neee to receive circumcision (note the bottomline conclusion in Gal 5:2, 11:12) The fact that Jesus kept the sabbath is evidence that we should also, since " the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to work in the same manner as He walked"(1 John 2:6; 1 Peter 2:21) How exactly did Jesus "fulfill" the law? Did He abolish the law by obeying it? He denies this kind of interpretation in Matthew 5:17: "do not think that I come to abolish the law or the prophets; I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill". If the word "fulfull" means "abolish", or something close to it, then Christ contradicted Himself: "I did not come to abolish, but to (abolish)" Knowing Jesus doesn't mean we're free to disobey any and all of God's laws and commandments. "And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. The one who says, 'I have come to know Him', and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His words, in him the love of God has been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him."(1 John 2:3-4) Hence, obedience to God's commandments is a requirement to really know Jesus. Similarly, Jesus Himself said: You are my friends, if you do what I command you(John 15:14) likewise, He proclaimed to a crowd listening to Him: "For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother and sister and mother"(Matt. 12:50) Does being Christ-centered magically changes the contents of the law's requirements by itself? Not a chance. The conclusion simply doesn't follow from the premises. 1 Like |
Re: Does Justification By Faith Abolish The Sabbath? by iykedare(m): 7:30pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
This fool here is claiming to be a Christian. Hell awaits you. Bloody tribalist otr1: |
Re: Does Justification By Faith Abolish The Sabbath? by otr1(m): 7:39pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
iykedare:Stay out of our politics or you land in that hell first. |
Re: Does Justification By Faith Abolish The Sabbath? by iykedare(m): 7:53pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
otr1:Bastard, send who to hell? Mumu |
Re: Does Justification By Faith Abolish The Sabbath? by Nobody: 11:25am On Jun 14, 2015 |
otr1, I have never looked at the Sabbath question from the perspective of the ten commandments. We agree that we should abide with the rest of these commandments. But why not the Sabbath? This is my thought. The rest of the commandments address morality and spiritual inclination while the law of the Sabbath is more of a commemorative action. Which is not bad. Secondly, there has been confusion as to what day is the actual sabbath day as the keeping and recording of time has changed over the years. Third, I believe the most important part of that command is to keep it holy It is the reason why we should remember the sabbath. Now that brings the main question. How? How to keep the Sabbath holy? And what is holiness. There is the answer as to who is really keeping the Sabbath as commanded. It also answers the question of grace.The gift of holiness is a grace from God. So in fact, the justification of grace actually fulfils the law of the sabbath more perfectly that the early Israelites. Exodus. 1). 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 2).20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 3).20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 4).20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 5).20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 6). 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.20:14 7). Thou shalt not commit adultery. ![]() 9). 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 10) 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. Exodus |
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