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Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by vioment: 10:28pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
Impressive analysis. I hail the truism of this if it came to fruition. Very good. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 10:35pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
I came across an academic article online (a simple Google search really) explaining how Germany performed a virtual miracle by transforming from a war ravaged country to being among the top economies within 20 years. I only add excerpt here:
Just West Germany laid a foundation within 20 years that could absorb the East, and today the rest is history. But this can only happen in a VERY HARDWORKING economy and among hardworking peoples; not lazy ones. 4 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 11:04pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
It is really amazing that the only thing our opponents can bring to this debate are insults, name callings, and threats. That tells you all you need to know about the country they are defending. I challenge any of them to tell me whether s/he has EVER witnessed uninterrupted power supply for ONE WEEK in the entire 55 years of Nigeria's existence. I dare any of them! Meanwhile India became independent in 1948, and exploded her first atomic bomb in 1974 (mere 26 years after independence). In Fella's voice: GIVE ME WATER, LITE, FUDU, HAUSI. ![]() Bunch of jokers! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by irsakant: 11:24pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
GOD BLESS BIAFRA! 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by PenSniper: 11:55pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
Curlieweed: Yes you are right but Ango made that statement after Buhari's ascendancy. Anyway Gej left things too late. I blame him for not seizing on the opportunity that came begging. Unfortunately, he lost to western conspiracy. Whilst nigerians trade blames on Gej's loss, they overlooked the west's angst against him for standing firm on same-sex marriage because it marked the beginning of his end in power. Well, Buhari/north or not, nothing can stop or stand in the way of an idea whose time has come. Nigeria is a building that is bound to crash. 2 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by kenny987(f): 12:34am On Sep 13, 2015 |
fablola: Was the chest beaten for u? Were u invited? It's so unfortunate that u have so much disdain for a people yet you're interested in their affairs...why? Have they committed any crimes? The correct expression is 'a dime a dozen' 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by kenny987(f): 12:38am On Sep 13, 2015 |
wale6run: Biafrans don't need u to think for them. If u don't support the views and visions of my people just don't get involved cos u simply can't wrap ur mind around it...it's way beyond u. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by laudate: 3:08am On Sep 13, 2015 |
NDIGBO, OJUKWU & BIAFRA: WHERE DID WE GO WRONG (PART II) I hope the proponents of the new Biafra will learn from the mistakes made by their forbears in the old Biafra, so that they will NOT make the same errors, this second time around. Choosing the right leader is just as important as deciding when to secede, how to secede and what parts will secede. ![]() ![]() Good luck. ![]() |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by laudate: 3:14am On Sep 13, 2015 |
fablola: People have told them in different ways to leave Igala and Idoma land out of their calculations, but their greed for territorial expansion will not let them see road! This miscalculation is likely to cost them dearly in the long run. ![]() Apart from this, a lot of Igala folks are muslims, so I am not sure how a Christian Republic of Biafra will fit into their equation. ![]() |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by laudate: 3:29am On Sep 13, 2015 |
PenSniper: PenSniper: The OP started out well .... and just when I was thinking they were getting somewhere, oops! Someone had to insert the word 'Yoruba' into their post, and then it suddenly became an issue of what the 'Yoruba' should have done, but did not do! ![]() Why must the name of this ethnic group keep popping up on all threads? ![]() ![]() ![]() Mehn, I must congratulate you Yoruba people, o! Eziokwu! ![]() ![]() ![]() Chai! But wait o, if the Yoruba do not form their own republic, how does that affect the success of the pro-Biafran groups or their endeavour? I still don't get it, oh! 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by VickJames(m): 8:58am On Sep 13, 2015 |
patrick89: Can you do it? |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 9:24am On Sep 13, 2015 |
I was down with serious malaria that I could not make my broadcast but Ojukwu went on air as soon as he got back and claimed that we agreed to a Confederation to which I had always strongly objected http://www.odogwublog.com/2015/04/gowon-visited-anambra-and-spoke-for.html?m=1 I can see that the snake has crawled his way back into this thread to spread falsehood. For all it's worth, decree 8 was just what it was, a Decree that could have been abrogated any time the military dictator that created it wanted by exploiting the " state of emergency" loophole purposefully inserted into the decree. Secondly, as we could hear from the horse's mouth, Gowon made it clear over there that he won't grant confederation to the regions, that very much is obvious, you don't run confederations with silly decrees. 2 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 9:41am On Sep 13, 2015 |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 9:41am On Sep 13, 2015 |
Again, I find it funny that an Odua-Arewa person is concerned about Biafran leadership, when the Arewa-Odua states are not currently better governed than Biafra. The only favour Biafrans needed from Odua-Arewa people, was for the parasites to be contented with their Arewa-Odua land and leave Biafrans alone, that was the only thing they needed. But no, the parasites drawn by lust for Biafran resources couldn't stay in their cursed lands, they had to March down to Biafra to force co-existence with Biafrans. Nothing has changed today, no Biafran need any advice on leadership from Arewa-Odua people, all we need is that you keep your parasitic nature away from us. We want you to embrace your Arewa-Oduanistan land and stop poke nosing into Biafrans affairs. I mean, how difficult can this be? Huh! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by laudate: 10:19am On Sep 13, 2015 |
It takes a whole lot to impress me, but I must say again that you Yoruba people have managed to do so more than once, recently. ![]() And you have impressed not just me, but several others on NL. To the extent that, a rabid Igbo pro-Biafran agitator is crying out aloud and interceding for you with tears in his eyes, to please to embrace your own republic, which he calls "Arewa-Oduanistan land." Epic! ![]() |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Change2015(m): 10:23am On Sep 13, 2015 |
pazienza: Massob that ended up supporting pdp election delay tactics, just like opc and yet you think they have principles? Was it not money Jonathan was passing around that threw ohaneze into confusion? Now even professor Ben Nwabueze, a renowned constitutional lawyer has faded into irrelevance because he too joined the pathetic Jonathan train. Already your kanu is fighting many of his colleagues and former colleagues and there are many allegations of financial fraud and sexual scandals. I guess all this is meant to impress yeah? And as for the constant yoruba and hausa bashing, I come from a Nigerian minority and you think this kind of open display of ethnic hatred is a good marketing tool? I will tell you this for free, there are many delta ibos I have familial ties to and none parrots this biafra nonsense, much the same as the south south have no interest. Go persuade your own people, but don't be so stupid as to imagine that any referendum on separation will be held on a tribal basis. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Flyingngel(m): 10:35am On Sep 13, 2015 |
Op's pls for the sake of , pls remove south-south frm ur acclaimed country. We down here are not Biafran and are not interested. I don't knw hw u people will understand that we are Niger Deltan and if there is going to be secession, southeast will on there own. Niger Delta is not a conquered territory. This is not 1967. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Flyingngel(m): 10:35am On Sep 13, 2015 |
Op's pls for the sake of BIAFRA , pls remove south-south frm ur acclaimed country. We down here are not Biafran and are not interested. I don't knw hw u people will understand that we are Niger Deltan and if there is going to be secession, southeast will on there own. Niger Delta is not a conquered territory. This is not 1967. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 12:15pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
Change2015: What exactly are you talking about? I couldn't make head or tail of this your post. 5 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by pazienza(m): 12:26pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
Flyingngel: Taa gbafuo! Be proud of your ethnic group and stop hiding behind the nebulous term "Niger delta". Even Imo, Abia, Edo and Ondo people are Niger deltans. The term Niger Delta has no meaning in today's Nigeria. Don't pretend to be a spokesperson for a meaningless term. The Niger delta republic Adaka Boro declared in 1966 was an Ijaw only republic, are you an Ijaw? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by basilo101: 3:47pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
Flyingngel:Mumu, what is south south, or Niger delta? speak 4 ur tribe alone. most parts of SE are more soth dan the so called south south and more Niger delta the the aclaimed Niger delta, tell us ur tribe |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Flyingngel(m): 4:36pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
pazienza: I wouldn't insult u.s. It is not a must for us in south-south to Join BIAFRA. Do ur thing and leave us alone. We r saying that is not a must. Can't u get it? |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Flyingngel(m): 4:37pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
pazienza: I wouldn't insult u. Is it a must for us in south-south to Join BIAFRA? Do ur thing and leave us alone. We r saying that is not a must. Can't u get it? |
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Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by Flyingngel(m): 4:43pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
basilo101: With how insolence u r, is this hw ur so call Biafra will be? Leave south-south alone. Do ur thing with ur southeast brothers. Am sure it is not difficult to understand. We are not interested period. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by PenSniper: 5:15pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
laudate: You captured the scenario very aptly. The ibos can't seem to do anything without using the word 'Yoruba' as aphrodisia otherwise they are at sea without a paddle. It has become fashionable for them to swallow Cafenol and Phensic for yoruba' headache but they never get cured. To their myopic and parochial mind, any thread or post that is critical of or advisory of them or the biafran project must be by a yoruba. On hindsight, i think they may be suffering from the abrassive reality of 1967/68 which thought them what the yoruba is capable of doing if provoked. It has become their sing-song that the yoruba with not join the north to fight for one nigeria this time around. Who does not know that it is suicidal to wake up a sleeping Tiger ? 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by laudate: 10:10pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
Change2015: Epic!! ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 10:49pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
So, to recap the spirit behind this thread, i.e. what inspired it, I wanted to see what arguments anti-Biafrans would make to convince us that Biafra will be worse than Nigeria if she becomes independent. Four pages after, they still can't make any. Let me step back a little. A diehard One Nigerianist is someone who believes that Nigeria is better for his or her people than secession; while a diehard Biafran is someone who believes that Biafra is the better future for his people. As someone who is honest to himself, I have asked myself this question severally and the answer keeps coming back the same -BIAFRA WILL BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM NIGERIA in a powerfully positive way. I believe so because Biafra has the necessary ingredients to form a coherent modern state: same culture, same religion, same mindset, highly trained human resource, heavily endowed with natural resources, and finally the zeal to secede. Knowing Nigeria the way I do, most of the people fighting Biafrans do so out of jealousy, irrational wickedness, and hate. I say "irrational" because these people hate us right now in Nigeria, and have demonstrated the hate by speech, action, physical violence, and conspiracy (by denying us international access etc), WHY THEN CAN'T THEY JUST ALLOW A REFERUNDUM in the east to determine once and for all who wants to stay with them in Nigeria and who wants to leave? Ojukwu offered the same referendum among the non-Igbo of the east before the war, but Gowon and these same liars, cheats and thieves turned it down and instead created fake "states" that work to exploit the east. I wonder who these people think they are deceiving. I see someone here desperately trying to divide the east in a "hail Mary" last attempt to sound relevant to the debate, but only fools will be deceived. Some of them say only "SE" is Biafra, but I know within my heart that same people will fight even harder to keep "SE" in Nigeria if "SE" decides to leave anyway (which can't really happen because it would mean leaving about 40% of Igbo in the Nigerian cage), but we can still leave if they insist on SE alone, and very little would change our prospects for success as an independent country. But the more important point is that people from "Cross rivers", "Akwa Ibom", "Rivers", and "Delta" have demonstrated historically (in the first civil war) and even in today's IPOB that they are more Biafran than Igbos. And it would simply be unthinkable to have a new Biafra without them. That argument is very simple, and I challenge anyone to grant the whole East and Delta state a referendum to decide who wants to leave as Biafra. If you can't do it, then the truth is self evident! Still waiting for anyone who can show me how Nigeria is better for the people of Biafra than outright secession... Waiting patiently! ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 11:05pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
I also noticed a lot of masquerades here too! Some of them came, threw mud and insult around, and when nobody bit, they "mumuishly" left the thread. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 1:50pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
It would help if some of the same people that opened a thread to support Biafran referendum really demonstrate their support here. But to expose their insincerity they avoided this thread and instead created one to feed their sense of humor. I'm sure they are laughing their asssses off at how people were sucked into that thread. If you support Biafra, here is our dream, show your support here. We want to build a civilized society for ourselves. Support us. |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by c33b33(m): 5:53pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Carnegiefan you may become methuselah if you are waiting for someone sensible to give you reason to remain in Lugard's invention. As for the educational sector in Biafra land, I want history to be taught and made compulsory from the primary to the tertiary schools. Teachers should earn better than politicians. While people are here making noise the so called niger delta are joining family meetings. lol IPOB Youth 3 Likes |
Re: Biafra Will Be Totally Different From Nigeria. Here's How! by carnegiefan: 2:56am On Sep 17, 2015 |
c33b33: ![]() Music to my ears! There very future is at stake and common sense dictate that they do just that. We are one people with same mindset. Biafra needs to be people of same mind to succeed. |
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