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Dragons And Dinosaurs! by ttalks(m): 3:32pm On May 23, 2009
Dragons; a lot of people have believed to be mythical creatures.
Dinosaurs; a lot of people have believed to have existed before man.

The truth is they existed. What were known as dragons were actually part of the Dinosaur family. Only forgeries through time have made dragons to look and sound like most of them are in stories and legends.
But most of the features they possessed in myths and legends actually were true.

The bible makes it clear that dinosaurs/dragons existed and they existed in the same period as man.

Gen 1:20-21
(20)  And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
(21)  And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

The great whales referred to in verse 21 above was in reference to a dragon,sea monster,serpent,or whale.This is gotten from the Hebrew and greek representations of that portion of the bible(tanniyn,tanniym).

Also, the creature described in Job 41 definitely fits the description of a sea monster that breathes and releases fire which we know is common with the dragon stories.

Job 40:15-24 describes an animal called the behemoth with features that fit only a dinosaur.

Other verses in the bible that mention dragons are:

Isaiah 4:13
Nehemiah 2:13
Jeremiah 51:37
Malachai 1:3

Below are links to read more on the bible and what it says about Dinosaurs and dragons:

Here and here

The following links talk about the sightings of a dinosaur like creature:

Dinosaur sighting 1 and Dinosaur sighting 2
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by Tudor3(m): 3:55pm On May 23, 2009
So from the time of job till now,which is about 4000 years,the dragons and dinosaurs went extinct,is that so? How about radio dating that dates fossils to millions of years ago.
It seems the dinosaurs smelt your shit coming and decided to kill themselves all after job died. Sicko!

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Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by ttalks(m): 4:10pm On May 23, 2009
Odd fellow, ur carbon dating is very faulty.Don't tell me that u are not aware of the faults in carbon dating.

Inaccuracies of carbon dating
Flaws in Carbon dating
Radioisotopes and the age of the earth
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by Tudor3(m): 6:50pm On May 23, 2009
??
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by Tudor3(m): 6:53pm On May 23, 2009
Are you well? What inaccuracies?
Radio dating using the half life of carbon has been proven both scientifically and mathematically.just the way gravity has been proven. The concept of half life is even used in atomic bombs.go ask those in hiroshima and they'll testify how accurate it is.
please give another excuse.
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by ttalks(m): 8:07pm On May 23, 2009
What on earth does the use of the half life of carbon in atomic bombs,etc have to do with the inaccuracies of carbon dating when it comes to checking for how old the fossilized remains of dinosaurs are?

Did u read the links posted?
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by bindex(m): 8:28pm On May 23, 2009
ttalks:

Dragons; a lot of people have believed to be mythical creatures.
Dinosaurs; a lot of people have believed to have existed before man.

The truth is they existed. What were known as dragons were actually part of the Dinosaur family. Only forgeries through time have made dragons to look and sound like most of them are in stories and legends.
But most of the features they possessed in myths and legends actually were true.

The bible makes it clear that dinosaurs/dragons existed and they existed in the same period as man.

Gen 1:20-21
(20)  And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
(21)  And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

[b]The great whales referred to in verse 21 above was in reference to a dragon,sea monster,serpent,or whale.[/b]This is gotten from the Hebrew and greek representations of that portion of the bible(tanniyn,tanniym).

YOU ARE A LIAR.
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by ttalks(m): 9:14pm On May 23, 2009
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by Tudor3(m): 7:22am On May 24, 2009
@ttalks
so, how do you think radio dating is done if not by using the half life of carbon? Did you do basic physics at all?
Physics 101- fossilized remains are made of of the element carbon,over time radioactive decay occurs,and half life is used to calculate the time frame.
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by ttalks(m): 7:59am On May 24, 2009
@Tudor,
But you should be aware that for the calculations to be accurate, certain conditions have to be in place.
Going from what the links I posted said, carbon dating cannot give proper results for particular things.
It's good for certain things but fails woefully with some others; fossils most especially.

I'm really wondering if u've bothered to go through the links because ur questions don't seem to sound like those that are constructed based on reading the info therein.

Let me post the contents of one of the links:



Used to estimate the age of ancient artifacts and human and animal remains, radiocarbon dating is regarded by many as one of the miracles of modern science. Some, however, have serious doubts about the credibility of this technique.

Radiocarbon dating works by comparing the amount of normal carbon that is found in a sample with the amount of radioactive carbon. Both carbon and radioactive carbon are found in every living organism. While carbon is quite prevalent in these organisms, radioactive carbon is present only in tiny amounts. Some contend that the relative ratios of carbon and radioactive carbon that are found on the earth have remained constant over time and that, using known rates of decay; we can estimate age on the basis of changes in this ratio in a particular artifact or remains.

Radioactive carbon is absorbed by living organisms throughout their entire life. When the organism dies that absorption stops and the radioactive carbon begins to break down. Because this break down occurs at a known rate it is theoretically possible to compare the amount of regular carbon and the amount of radioactive carbon and estimate just how long an organism has been dead.

Although the theory of radiocarbon dating is interesting, there are several inherent problems with the process. The first of these problems is the fact that the original ratio of carbon and radioactive carbon is unknown. The second problem is that the possibility of contamination of the sample over time is quite high. The older the sample the higher the probability of contamination, in fact! What this means is that using carbon dating to date very old samples is really quite impractical given our current level of knowledge and technological capabilities.


While carbon dating continues to be considered by many as a viable way of obtaining authoritative dates for a wide range of artifacts and remains, there is much room for error in the process. Even the use of accelerator mass spectrometry to analyze the relative levels of carbon and radioactive carbon has resulted in flawed determinations. It is not uncommon for different laboratories to determine quite different ages for the same artifact! While some of this deviation could possibly be explained by contamination or erred methodology in the labs themselves, it is apparent that the problems with carbon dating are much more complex than that.


Very simply put, too many things are unknown to allow the carbon dating process to be as accurate as many proclaim it to be. Factors as diverse as changes in the earth’s magnetic field and changes in the amount of carbon available to organisms in times past could translate into perceivable differences in the carbon ratios in artifacts and remains from ancient times. Even changes in the atmosphere itself could impact this carbon ratio. We know that changes such as these have occurred over time. They are still occurring today in fact.


The fact that carbon and radioactive carbon are independently formed means that their ratios to one another could have changed substantially from ancient times to today. To base our knowledge on the age of the earth and its various constituents on information gleaned from a technique that depends on carbon and radioactive carbon ratios is very simply unrealistic.

Besides this, dating have been carried out on some particular items/organisms that were actually known to be dead a few years old(30yrs for example) and the results were completely stupid and unrealistic

Living organisms were dated and results showed that they'd been "dead" for hundreds or thousands of years.

Doesn't that spell out inaccuracy when used in some items?

As far as it is known, carbon dating is very good on some items but completely way off on some others;fossils for example.

Maybe u should go through the links i posted in my second post.
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by Tudor3(m): 9:36am On May 24, 2009
Ok einstein, give me examples of items radio dating is used to accurately determine their age.
Re: Dragons And Dinosaurs! by mkmyers45(m): 9:47am On Oct 01, 2012
ttalks: Odd fellow, ur carbon dating is very faulty.Don't tell me that u are not aware of the faults in carbon dating.

Inaccuracies of carbon dating
Flaws in Carbon dating
Radioisotopes and the age of the earth
Even your links say 16,000 to 100,000 years

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