cheruv:

That Onicha province which is present day Anambra and Enugwu States is 1493945 in population as compared to the whole West which is 1976291 in population has already rubbished whatever you had to say!
The other provinces were mixed with Igbos and non Igbos with Igbos making up at least 60% of population... Onicha is the only province that's wholly Igbo that's why I used it.
The Brits were the ones who did the census as far back as 1920...when no interests were at play so don't bring in any rubbish sentiments here....if it pains you that much ask the NPC to add ethnicity and religion to the 2017 data

Dude, like seriously, you need to learn to calm the funk down when trying to make a point. No matter how you slice and dice it, you have yet to Prove that even as far back as 1920 the igbos were more than the Yorubas without having to lump in the SS -- that is minus Yorubas in present day Kwara and Kogi. You are the one with the ego and complex problems who feels the need to manipulate figures to feel good about yourself and your ethnicity. Get a grip bwoy!

Lordave:
You have a point but I don't think Owerri of then includes places like Aba, Umuahia or even Okigwe. Onitsha couldn't have included Enugu and Abakaliki. So I think whatever territories Onitsha and Owerri referred to, did not cover up to 1/4 of Igboland then, likewise the Colony and Kano.

Well, I haven't said that it's true, I'm just making argument with the content of the book, not saying they were fact.

It is a matter of fact not opinion so what you or I "THINK" is irrelevant.

The question is what do the authors mean??

Having said that I still question the figures. What are they based on.Are they True and how do we know?


AS FAR AS I KNOW THERE WAS NO CENSUS IN 1920 so what is this based on

Flyoruboy:


Dude, like seriously, you need to learn to calm the funk down when trying to make a point. No matter how you slice and dice it, you have yet to Prove that even as far back as 1920 the igbos were more than the Yorubas without having to lump in the SS -- that is minus Yorubas in present day Kwara and Kogi. You are the one with the ego and complex problems who feels the need to manipulate figures to feel good about yourself and your ethnicity. Get a grip bwoy!

Ha nwere anya ma a ha anaghi ahu uzo...

Was I the one who asked the Brits to do the following..
1]lump the Igbos of present day Ebonyi state into Ogoja province
2]lump the Ogoni together with the Igbos of present day Imo, Abia and Rivers states into Owerre province?
3]lump the northern Anioma Igbos(Enuani) into Benin province?
4]lump the southern Anioma Igbos(Ukwuani) into Delta province?
5]lump the Igbos of arochukwu and opobo into Calabar province?

As you can see I wasn't the one who asked them to do all that...if you want to blame SE/SS attachment blame the Brits for doing so as far back as 1920

Ele anya,ihere gi bu na onu ogugu nāni provinz Onicha kariri nke ndi nīle bi n'ala odidānyānwu
Biko jide onwe gi nihi o bughi taa ka ndi Igbo gafere ndi Ovei'

cheruv:

Ha nwere anya ma a ha anaghi ahu uzo...

Was I the one who asked the Brits to do the following..
1]lump the Igbos of present day Ebonyi state into Ogoja province
2]lump the Ogoni together with the Igbos of present day Imo, Abia and Rivers states into Owerre province?
3]lump the northern Anioma Igbos(Enuani) into Benin province?
4]lump the southern Anioma Igbos(Ukwuani) into Delta province?
5]lump the Igbos of arochukwu and opobo into Calabar province?

As you can see I wasn't the one who asked them to do all that...if you want to blame SE/SS attachment blame the Brits for doing so as far back as 1920

Ele anya,ihere gi bu na onu ogugu nāni provinz Onicha kariri nke ndi nīle bi n'ala odidānyānwu
Biko jide onwe gi nihi o bughi taa ka ndi Igbo gafere ndi Ovei'

Yinmu. Until you can come up with reliable data stat of exclusively igbo population, every other bull crap you wrote up there is but mere wishful thinking.

Gbogbo oshi to ko Ni ede iranu abasha e yen ko kan aiye. To ba de je wipe eebu Ni o bu mi Ni, ki gbogbo nkan to so yen pada sie Lori. Iwo alakori jati jati.

Lordave:
Fixed!

Ochi atogbuolam

Was there a census in Nigeria in 1920.? Why are people unable to ask questions and think before reacting? How many censuses have ever taken place in Nigeria and on what dates? This is no secret?

People waste so much time going to school and come out totally illiterate.
Someone presents some "information" in front of you and you do not have the intellectual infrastructure to evaluate that "information" Shameful!!

When was the first nationwide census in Nigeria? are these figures estimates or based on actual censuses. How were the censuses conducted etc/ Learn to ask questions please

Flyoruboy:


Yinmu. Until you can come up with reliable data stat of exclusively igbo population, every other bull crap you wrote up there is but mere wishful thinking.

Gbogbo oshi to ko Ni ede iranu abasha e yen ko kan aiye. To ba de je wipe eebu Ni o bu mi Ni, ki gbogbo nkan to so yen pada sie Lori. Iwo alakori jati jati.

Onye nwere oghere ya na efulefu ikpa uka
Mgbe nīle ndi Ovei' eche na o nwere ihnye ha na Igbo nāzo Ihe a egosila mkpa o di maka obibia Biāfra...ka anyi na ndi Akawo a kwusi ino n'otu obodo.
Biko cha n'uzo kam hu ndi kwu oto!

Tell us which is the largest ethnic group in Nigeria.

We are listening.

Lordave:
If you have a proof Hausa or Fulani is the largest ethnic group in Nigeria bring it forward and stop making noise.
Wetin Fulanimafia with all the intellectual education he acquired in Timbuktu couldn't prove na you QuotaSystem wan come try.


Inferiority complex? I don't think someone who because of him quota system/federal character got inserted into our laws is in the best position to accuse someone of inferiority complex syndrome.

cheruv:

Onye nwere oghere ya na efulefu ikpa uka
Mgbe nīle ndi Ovei' eche na o nwere ihnye ha na Igbo nāzo Ihe a egosila mkpa o di maka obibia Biāfra...ka anyi na ndi Akawo a kwusi ino n'otu obodo.
Biko cha n'uzo kam hu ndi kwu oto!

Asinwi nie Jo. Ode oshi. Abi o ro wipe iwo nikan lo le so ede Ni? Olofo jati jati. Ori e pelebe bi ori awon ara Biafuro. Ja kuro lona Jo.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم. رب العالمين. بالتأكيد لا إله إلا الله. وهو يرى ما هو أمامهم وما خلفهم ولكنهم لا يستطيعون رؤيته
وقبائل آيبوس، هم الفاسقون.
الشعب محروما من قبل الرجال والشياطين وجميع الذين لديهم السلطة لعنة. الجزء الخاص بهم هو الشراب المر من الماء المغلي والقيح، عويل في الصباح والرثاء ليلا وهذا هو حكم الله الذي لا يمكن لأحد التفاوض.
هم دون مساعدين أو صديق، وهو ضائع الناس

I fear ooo. always attaching to us by all means.

Flyoruboy:


What was SE population stat during the last census compared to the the SS? Can't you stand without the SS? What of other censuses since 1920?

Whatever was published in 1920 was an estimate or guess. There was no census. The fact that an Oyinbo wrote down his guess in a book does not validate it. Once again what is the basis of this figures

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meezynetwork:
From the document it shows igbo land has always been populous if owerri and onitsha province could account for about 3.5m of 8m southern population which is about half of the total population. And also the Yorubas has major towns and live in clusters while the Igbos live sparsely. I don't know why ogoja has been neglected so badly like this. This has been a prominent name right from ages. Visited ogoja this year on my way to obudu and it's still the same little and low life town it has always been. It's time for ogoja state to be created. All other names are big towns now expect ogoja.

You're right. Ogoja is one of the very first places to be clamoring to have their own state and the place has been prominent since time immemorial. I think it's all politics. Only if they had prominent people in power.

With regards to the issue of population, Igbo has always been dominant in the whole ofo southern Nigeria. An average Yoruba may never agree to this because what he sees around him paints a picture of them being very populous. How do I mean? They have always been psuedo urban dwellers. Having big towns with huge populations concentrated in those areas does not equate to having a bigger population. Then when you come to Igboland, you have an unusually high population density spread over a majority of the land. This tells a great deal of story on the Igbo population but given a smaller land area brings another twist to it. How do we solve this twist? Going back to earlier history when little politics was involved in affairs of the colonialists i.e before the 60's, available records have always given Igbo a higher population. The british have always made remarks about population when discussing Ndigbo and for the Yorubas, they always talk about the urban settlements of the Yorubas.

omonnakoda:
Whatever was published in 1920 was an estimate or guess. There was no census. The fact that an Oyinbo wrote down his guess in a book does not validate it. Once again what is the basis of this figures

I'll assume that you're saying this because it doesn't favour your thoughts.

fulanimafia:
No. This is another fake census report by the northern controlled National Population Commission.

The truth is like a goldfish, it cannot be hidden forever.

Complain about the north can not help us. We have been complaining since 1960 without any result.............. THE BEST SOLUTION IS, GOING BACK TO DRAWING BOARD AND PREPARE THEIR KIND OF MEDICINE FOR THEM TO TASTE.

We need to carry long spoon and compete with them instead of crying like loser baby.

very soon space no go dey again we go dey lap for this country

cheruv:
SW = 1976291
SE/SS = 5880006

Ihe a gosiri na kemgbe 1920,onu ogugu Igbo eruola nde 2½...
Provinz Onicha bu steeti Anambra na Enugwu ugbu a di 1493945,nke Owerre bu steeti Imo, Abia, Rivers ugbu a di 1975784
Egwu dikwa oo
A si na ahia ohu Atlantika emeghi, onu ogugu Igbo gāri iru nde 100+ ugbu a

That's means Igbos are definitively the largest ethnicity in Nigeria

Some of you are ready to distort fact just to feel good with your inferiority complex. Even the population of the entire country in 1920 was not up to what you put up there as the population of SS/SE. Another,funny thing about your post is that you are mirroring some people's belief that SE cant stand alone. Must you bring SS into the equation in order to compare with the SW

Population without development

theSpark:
Between 1920 and 2006 the population jumped from 18m to about 150m. Nigerians reproduce well. By 2020 we go dey 200 million.

We don pass 200 million bro

cheruv:

Onye nwere oghere ya na efulefu ikpa uka
Mgbe nīle ndi Ovei' eche na o nwere ihnye ha na Igbo nāzo Ihe a egosila mkpa o di maka obibia Biāfra...ka anyi na ndi Akawo a kwusi ino n'otu obodo.
Biko cha n'uzo kam hu ndi kwu oto!

u get problems I swear.

Lordave:
If you have a proof Hausa or Fulani is the largest ethnic group in Nigeria bring it forward and stop making noise.
Wetin Fulanimafia with all the intellectual education he acquired in Timbuktu couldn't prove na you QuotaSystem wan come try.


Inferiority complex? I don't think someone who because of him quota system/federal character got inserted into our laws is in the best position to accuse someone of inferiority complex syndrome.

Quota system was never for North but for mediocres like you that could not string a good sentence without committing blunder.

With the large increase in population one would have thought Nigeria will be in a better state by nw bt NO, wat do we have now? Absoultely NOTHING!! Nothing to show well excpt d large population

Let me see it well

DoTheNeedful:



Some of you are ready to distort fact just to feel good with your inferiority complex. Even the population of the entire country in 1920 was not up to what you put up there as the population of SS/SE. Another,funny thing about your post is that you are mirroring some people's belief that SE cant stand alone. Must you bring SS into the equation in order to compare with the SW

I di iberibe oo
Am I the British that lumped Igbos and non Igbos together in a province
Ndi mmadu nihi MB iri MTN naenye ha che na ihnye di mma a gaeji ya eme bu ikogheri na net kama ilezi anya na data no ha n'ihu a nāsusuari onu ka ndi akpi gbara n'onu!

Aristotle96:
Very soon space no go dy 9ja again o... We are over productive

while natural disaster is reducing d pop.

I found this article online. Its very profound. Something we need to think about, if are to really know how many we are in Nigeria.

Its quite an epistle. But its worth the read.

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But, why are we like this?

Why is our nationhood predicated on falsehood?

Why are we a nation where demographic data are always doctored, or skewed, to give fiscal advantage to certain regions?

Why are our national data, statistics, historical records, etc all fraught with half-truths and untruths?

Why is it almost a taboo, in our country,
to question or investigate long-held, but doubtful, historical records? Thus, making myths to be easily passed down as historical events.

Why are we a country where national planning, budgets and distribution of resources are often done based on fictitious statistics?

Why?! Why?! Why?!

A case in point.

Official documents suggest that the Igbos are a distant 3rd largest ethnic population in Nigeria.

This is as laughable as saying that Kano is more populous than Lagos.

Few human settlements in Nigeria can boast of not having someone of Igbo extraction either selling provision, spart-parts, or an adulterated, fake or substandard product.

Besides, anyone who has done a bit of travels, within Nigeria, would attest to the fact that the most densely populated areas in Nigeria can be found in the eastern region of the country.

So, it’s rather curious and suspicious too, that the Igbos are counted the least amongst the major ethnic groups.

Even in Lagos, their numbers intimidate the Oba!

Yet, some of these questionable demographic data have persisted in our national history for so long a time.
Now, here is the painful part.

The Nigerian youth - who are supposed to be more discerning and intellectually sophisticated - swallow these diabolical statistics hook, line and sinker.

But, of course, this comes as no surprise. The youth have been gagged and blindfolded by a culture of ethnic and regional chauvinism.

And, for Christ sake - this is 2015!

How hard can it be to put an end to these outrageous manipulations of a country's critical data?

Anyway, all hope is not lost.

There is technology to the rescue.

Yes. Technology is here to help us out of this man-made "national disaster" that we've brought upon ourselves.

Specifically, biometric technology.
So, we all agree that the use of biometric technology significantly minimized rigging during the last general elections, right?

Then, nothing should stop us from using the same technology to minimize the "rigging" of enumeration figures during the next census exercise.

The benefits of deploying biometric technology for an enumeration exercise are numerous. And they include:

One. Double or multiple entries can be spotted and eliminated.

Two. "Ghost citizens" can be eliminated.

Three. Of course, this technology does not accept entries of cows, goats and fowls.

Four. It’s a way around extreme cultures and religions that insist that some of its practitioners must not be seen, but counted by proxy, or in absentia.

It’s high time we dispelled some of these long-promoted "national lies".

It’s high time we found out how many we truly are in Nigeria, and how the population is accurately distributed.

It’s high time resources are distributed equitably.

It’s high time that there is a fair representation of every region at the National Assembly.

However, one thing you can be sure of is this; the northern oligarchy - using the northern legislators - will vigorously oppose this idea.

Chief Festus Odimegwu, during his brief stint as the Chairman of the National Population Commission (NPC), squealed that there had been no credible census in Nigeria, even before independence.

According to him, “No census has been credible in Nigeria since 1863. Even the one conducted in 2006 is not credible. I have the records and evidence produced by scholars and professors of repute. This is not my report. If the current laws are not amended, the planned 2016 census will not succeed.”

This long over-due revelation would turn
out to be his greatest undoing.

The Northern establishment exploded in
righteous indignation, and called for his head on the guillotine.

Governor Rabiu Kwankwaso, the governor of the biggest beneficiary of Nigeria's enumeration fraud, Kano, called him "a drunkard".

Not long after, and due to pressure from the north, Odimegwu was relieved of his appointment for daring to expose the nation's best kept secret.

Now, let's, for a moment, analyze this whole contentious issue of Kano being more populous than Lagos.

Here is what science has to say about population distribution.

In science, it has been proven from demographic distribution patterns across the globe that population increases as we move from the hinterland (desert/Savannah region) to the coastal region.

Curiously, Nigeria is an exception to this scientific theory.

Instead, in Nigeria - the North, which lies in the arid zone, is more populous than the coastal South.

This is the extent to which they have brazenly manipulated all our census reports.

Now, let's cast our minds back to the
last national census exercise in 2006.

Perhaps, if you never had respect for the Yoruba leaders, the events surrounding the 2006 Census exercise is one reason why you should.

Prior to the national enumeration exercise, the sagacious Yoruba leaders - specifically Afenifere and the then Lagos State government - perfectly understood the plot. Nobody, group or institution was going to upstage them by counting the Yoruba race fewer than they are - or how many they wanted to be perceived as.

So, while the Federal Government was planning the nationwide census exercise, the Lagos state government was also planning a parallel census exercise for Lagos state.

Please, be reminded here of one thing: the Nigerian constitution doesn't permit States to conduct an enumeration exercise. Notwithstanding, this didn’t stop the Lagos state government from conducting one.

At the end of the day, the Federal. Government-coordinated census figure for Lagos stood at 9 million - while Kano was 9.4 million. Thus, officially making Kano state the most populous state in Nigeria.

No Eastern state ranked amongst the first 10 states. Almost effectively reducing the Igbos to a minority ethnic group.

The 2006 national census had other interesting discrepancies extrapolated from its final report.

A classic example.

From the final census report of 2006, it was established that; had the old Sokoto state remained the way it was, before it was split up to become Sokoto, Zamfara and Kebbi, it would have been declared the most populous state in Nigeria, with a combined population of 11million.

This is why this is noteworthy: the old Sokoto state is a savannah/desert location!

Anyway, the drama of the Census of 2006 didn't stop there. There are more.

The Lagos state-organized census was shabbily conducted and due to the declared holiday for that period, a lot of Igbos residing in Lagos traveled home (very typical) during the exercise. Regardless, the Lagos state government - magically - arrived at a whooping population figure of 17 million for Lagos; a figure that almost doubled the one propounded by the NPC.

And now, guess what?

While all these inter-regional intrigues played out, the Igbo leaders - notably, Ohaneze N'di Igbo - were sleeping.

And then, of course, there was the legendary apathy of the Igbos to national exercises.

Perhaps, this is why some of us consider some of those agitators on social media screaming "Biafra!" as enormously misguided (a topic for another day).

Sorry. I digressed.

Still on the need for a biometric-based census in 2016, it is on record that the current management of the National Population Commission (NPC) - headed by Mr Eze Duruiheoma, had approached President Buhari on the need to use biometrics for the next census exercise.

President Buhari is not sold on the idea.
The high cost of the project was his excuse.

According to him, if the NPC needed the biometrics of Nigerians, they should approach MTN, Airtel, and the commercial banks that have a database of biometrics of Nigerians.

Sighs.

SMH.

Anyways....

No country develops without accurate demographic and socio-cultural information.

For accountability, effective policy, national planning, decision making purposes, and equitable distribution of resources and fair representation of regions at the National Assembly, it is imperative that w get our national figures right.

It’s high time that we put an end to the culture of basing national planning and budgeting on fictional figures.

The lies that have characterized our nationhood have been sustained for far too long.

Enough is Enough!

For the next census exercise – and for the sustenance of our unity, it must be biometrics capturing or NOTHING!

http://jujufilms.tv/2015/11/25/eccentric-rowland/