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Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Pavore9: 9:16pm On May 31, 2016 |
Mercie123: Be blessed also. |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Mercie123(f): 12:59pm On Jun 01, 2016 |
organicfoods: Please come and continue o! |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by knostbrown01(m): 7:26pm On Jun 01, 2016 |
Mercie123:have u started cultivating urs? |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Mercie123(f): 9:06pm On Jun 01, 2016 |
knostbrown01: This month will not elude me by God's grace. Materials 85%...loading. That's why I'm gathering all the necessary info. |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 3:48am On Jun 02, 2016 |
Mercie123:Sorry dear! I have been extremely busy lately...You know this is farmers season ![]() |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 4:46am On Jun 02, 2016 |
What you must do: 1. Adequate planning. 2. Water 3. Commitments 4. Avoid Stressing the vine Adequate Planning: In cucumber farm, you must plan well from start to finish. Your planning must include logistics like a. Visitation to the farm: You can not abandon a cucumber farm like you do to maize, things happen very fast and there is little you can control when the vines are in full gear. So you have to monitor and ensure things works according to plan. If you don't love farming and you want money don't try cucumbers. If you have a tight schedule, planning from the scratch will help you a lot. You must know what's happening on the field every other day, because the faster they grow the faster things can go wrong. Pests also arrive very fast as well, many of them don't joke with it. You must have a program in place to control the pest. Our program was using neem oil and neem water. We soaked neem leaves in water for seven days and use every week, renewing the broth with fresh leaves every time we harvest the pesticide. This is how we initiate our pest control. We spray twice a week. Neem water on Monday and neem oil plus Black soap on Friday. When it rains, we change the day to when its favorable. Because we planted three in a sack, it was really crowded, I will recommend two per sack. You can plant three seeds per sack and prone to two leaving the healthiest plants. Recently I discover Palm Kernel oil (Yoruba called it adi eyan) when mixed with neem oil was really effective and powerful against caterpillar pest. The solution kills the pest almost immediately, I was really glad with the result. The tips of the cucumber vine are safe heaven for these pests. So spray the tips properly when applying pesticides. [b]Fertilization:[/b]Cucumber depend heavily on continuous fertilization during production. Understanding the needs of cucumber in every stage of their development is crucial. For growth up to 2 weeks, cucumber nutrients demand appears to be moderate, from this stage upward they tend to demand more, so you can start given them supply. I used different fertilizer at different stages. At two week I used fruits blossom and Lacto Bacillus folia spray. At fruiting stage, I used Harvest plus rich in calcium and phosphorous plus fish hydrosylate. My harvest was really massive. The composition of the soil will also go a long way. let me share an Idea I got from a crop farming group that I belong. I found great merit in the idea Using, chicken poo, Ash, charcoal and neem dust to constitute the sack will help a lot. Cucumber are susceptible to diseases because of pest activities, this composition will be of great help to the plant. Ash and charcoal has enough sulfur to keep virus and bacteria away. I will talk about new soil composition later in the post c. Watering/Irrigation[/b]The success of the farm will depend greatly on water. Without it, your plants will get stressed and famished. Fruits quality will depend greatly on the amount of water given to the plant. Try and install simple irrigation like the type ishaqteejay implemented in one of his thread, it will save you a lot of energy needed for pest control. Lest I forget, try and mulch to conserve water and keep weeds away. cucumber don't like disturbance to their roots. [b]d. Staking: Stake the vines early. They help release enough space for the plants, remember they don't like been crowded. First Pix is where you will find those demonic caterpillar second is a stressed fruit from poor water supply or weak pollination. 1 Like
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Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by knostbrown01(m): 12:26pm On Jun 02, 2016 |
Mercie123: good 2hear dt, u will learn most during practical session wen u start ur farm |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Mercie123(f): 4:46pm On Jun 02, 2016 |
organicfoods: In fact, thanks again. Can we use fish fertilizer also? And the new soil composition, chicken poo, Ash, charcoal and neem dust no sand at all? Coupled with where do we get neem dust? Do people supply cow dung and chicken manure? Just looking for where to buy in Ibadan. 1 Like |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 8:29pm On Jun 02, 2016 |
Mercie123:You have to mix with soil. The ratio of soil to manure is 1:1 500g each of Ash, Charcoal and neem dust wil serve. Neem dust is just neem leaves that was dried and grounded into powder Neem (dongoyaro) You can source all these material locally. If you have problem with manure, then I can help you with compost at a cost though. 2 Likes |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by leelat: 10:48am On Jun 03, 2016 |
Sir,can water melon be planted in a sack? |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 10:58pm On Jun 03, 2016 |
leelat:It will be impossible to do because of the size of the fruits. But who knows, a system may evolve. 1 Like |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Yampotatocarrot(m): 9:28am On Jun 04, 2016 |
Morning Sir. Please I'm back with questions again o. One of my major reasons for choosing to go back farming was to prevent spread of diseases through the soil, now u r scaring me with pests again. Don't know where to get dongoyaro here o cos t seems to b d one u favour d most among all u mentioned. Secondly when preparing d soil to put in the sack, can cow dung be used and if yes, how long should t stay b4 being mixed with the sack, if no, please what r d processes for mixing d other materials mentioned with sacj, as in how long should they be left to decompose because I read a thread where someone said about 3months.... Abeg that is too long for someone that wants to start now, abeg isn't there any alternative? Thanks in anticipation for your reply 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 6:16pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
Yampotatocarrot:Neem oil is about the best pest management regime you can use in organic farm, its readily available if you can't get neem leaves. Cow dung and chicken poo are like raw food packed full with nutrients, they need to be prepared for use for the plants. composting it is one of the most important aspect of making the nutrients available for plants use. It does take a while for this to happen though, between three to six months. If you can't wait, I have properly aged organic manure you can use for vegetables, you can send me a PM. |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Yampotatocarrot(m): 8:33pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
Oga mi @organicfoods, abeg no vex o.... But I no know how to send PM on Nairaland. Please u fit drop your number make we chat on whatsapp? |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 9:16pm On Jun 05, 2016 |
Yampotatocarrot:08034342637 my number |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by doubleportion: 1:15pm On Jun 06, 2016 |
@organicfoods, kudos to you! I have a fertile land that I can use , must I go for vertical sack farming,? What are the pros an |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by doubleportion: 1:17pm On Jun 06, 2016 |
@organicfoods, kudos to you! I have a fertile land that I can use , must I go for vertical sack farming,? What are the pros and cons if I decided to plant directly?. |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Yampotatocarrot(m): 4:03pm On Jun 06, 2016 |
Thanks a million, Sir |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Ayus34(m): 4:49pm On Jun 06, 2016 |
organicfoods:Thanks so much for this inspirational tips,God bless u and give u more grace.......will personally appreciate to chat with you on my whatsapp number 07032054765......have an agric project and will be happy to involve you. Thanks. |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 10:35pm On Jun 06, 2016 |
doubleportion:Conventional farming is also good, but with sack farming, you can control a lot of things. Conserve space, water, nutrients and avoid endless weeding that can compete with the plants of interest. 1 Like |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by EJaja(m): 2:01am On Jun 07, 2016 |
Pavore9: @pavere9 can you please share you the link for that particular interview. |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by Pavore9: 4:40am On Jun 07, 2016 |
EJaja: I can't get the link for that particular interview as it seems Fidelity SME has not yet uploaded it as other episodes on https://sme.fidelitybank.ng/radio-forum/
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Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by knostbrown01(m): 2:34pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
Help, my cucumber leave turning yellow, wht is d solution? |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 4:13pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
knostbrown01:That's serious lack of nutrients. How old are they? You can resuscitate with blood meal. Mix one liter of fresh blood (gotten from Abattoir) in four liters of water and apply as soil drench. But if fruiting, then you need liquid fertilizer. 1 Like |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by knostbrown01(m): 4:25pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
organicfoods:they r 4weeks old 1 Like
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Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 4:56pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
knostbrown01:What you are having is downy mildew...Its a kind of fungi disease that occurs when too much of humidity and water disturbs the plants. You can remove affected plants to reduce it spreading to other plant. keeping plant dry will help. Four table spoons of baking soda in four liter used as foliar spray and soil drench will help you alt their spread. Neem oil and black soap will also help if you can combine them. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by knostbrown01(m): 8:59pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
organicfoods:Baking Soda?, pls does it av any local name? |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 9:49pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
knostbrown01:Sodium Bicarbonate, it is used locally in bread making as leavening agent. 1 Like |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by knostbrown01(m): 11:20am On Jun 10, 2016 |
organicfoods:thnks boss, can I also apply urea fertiliser to boost nitrogen efficiency? |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by organicfoods(m): 11:32am On Jun 10, 2016 |
knostbrown01:I don't do chemicals oooo. Can't advice you on that. 3 Likes |
Re: "Vertical Sack Farming" My Pains, My Joy! My Experience So Far By: Organicfoods by knostbrown01(m): 12:15pm On Jun 10, 2016 |
organicfoods: Ok boss, if it were to be Nitrogen deficiency sir, which fertiliser or how can I solved that? |
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