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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Allen102: 7:37pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN:So how does that makes you a Nigerian? Who knows, maybe you are a Ghanaian criminal using Nigeria passport. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:49pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Just30: Please, produce the sources for this bullshit. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:50pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
vaxx1: What are the criteria used for the ranking? Is it effectiveness with health care delivery ? The number of hospitals and clinics? How affordable the healthcare is ? Life expectancy of each country ? Care to explain ?? The US, Canada Germany,China and India have one of the biggest medical tourism sector in the world. Some of the world biggest ground breaking discoveries in medicine have come from there !! How does Oman and Malta rank ahead of them ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:51pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:for instance South Africa has better health care delivery and facilities than Ghana but Ghana life expectancy is above that of SA. Check SA mortality rate and you will find out that it is 3 to 4 times lower than that of Ghana |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:52pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
NairobiWalker:check your maternal mortality figures Even your health ministry should be able to give it to you |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:52pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
mtisTheQubit: Maybe it's my eyesight but I can't seem to find Canada in the top 50 .. can u help me check ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:54pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Danielnino00:yes they do WHO has their modalities You can read on them |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:54pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
vaxx1:You are still falling back into looking at gov spinned reports of how much of GDP is used in healthcare! Dude,living longer isn't just having a big GDP or a big hospital around a big city.If you see Tanzanians live longer than someone else,you should know there is a reason behind.Yes social life( lifestyle) has a role so as other issues also play a part.All in all,Tz is better than u guys |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:54pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Just30: Can u post it here ? Let's read and learn.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:59pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Just30:Yes, its all not about facilities. Life expectancy includes facilities and lifestyle. You need to get both right.SA has facilities, but have you checked how many doctors have been raped and robed while on duty? What about the food they are eating?pollution levels?crime?Fake doctors? Illiteracy?What about a "Don't care" attitude? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 8:00pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Danielnino00:World health organization does the ranking anyway and that validate its authority. The methodology is largelly based on universal health care delivery and service . Yes USA has some of the best equipped quality hospital but it doesn't come cheap to the Americans making it difficult for Americans to benefit fromsuch system unless you are rich 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 8:01pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Just30 vaxx1. I just downloaded the PDF format of that pic from WHO website.. The ranking is genuine from WHO . But the criteria used didn't do justice to the subject matter.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:02pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Danielnino00:I don't have access to them You can go to who website and learn their reasons. It all has to do with the efficiency on their health delivery sector. I have always know US and Canada not to have the best, though they are the countries we all run to. I have always know Germany and Switzerland to have better systems. I least expected France to top because I had little knowledge of their system except for their medieval records. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 8:03pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:You are only repeating the same trash . what is the number of registerd doctor in TZ and what is ratio of doctor to patient in TZ? that is how we come to know a successful quality health system and health delivery. life span expectancy is another different category. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 8:04pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Danielnino00:I said the ranking is based on universal access. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:06pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Just30:The aim of having the better healthcare is improving life expectancy. That's why the issue of living longer is discussed. So if you have a quality healthcare, you should tell us,how it have helped on living longer? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:06pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:what is all not about Facilities ? Quality health care is all about facilities and human resource. The effectiveness of SA facilities is revealed in their mortality results. Once more no one is talking about life expectancy Because it has nothing to do with health care. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:07pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Danielnino00:read it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:11pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
vaxx1:No you don't gauge a healthcare on number of doctors! That's stupid. The healthcare is a huge sector,you can't just count on number of doctors and get a conclusion.Even if you count them,how sure are we that the doctors counted are not fake? How are we sure that all doctors in gov hospitals are working as supposed? If you want to see a best healthcare,just look at life expectancy |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 8:11pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:kazikazi. this your argument don't make sense anymore . Ghana is more peaceful than TZ and even more than any east African state . social life style still goes beyond those petty things you wrote above . there is more homicide and suicide in America than Ghana yet it does not mean America does not live longer. choose your line of argument intelligently. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:11pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:you are a joke The aim of having better healthcare is to prevent needless deaths from needless diseases. How can healthcare improve life expectancy when it has no correlation to it? Why don't you go to the hospital to buy long life 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:14pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:yes you can Doctor to patients ratio is one of the reason why Africa lacks behind Just like nurse to patients ratio. The result like the mortality rates is used to judge the efficacy of the delivery. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 8:17pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:Your last response is brutish...... there is registered body that regulated doctors. so fake doctors actually will not be registered and captured by the govt . well it might not be the case in TZ . corruption might have sabotage such practices. one of the finnest way to access health delivery is the amount of doctors doing the job . you can't say you have a good quality health care when there are only handful of doctors to do the job. for instance A country with a ratio of 1 doctor to 16 thousand patient can't say it is more efficient than a country with 1 doctor to every four thousand patient. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:21pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
vaxx1:even the results from both of them will show that the one with 16k patients is stressed hence produce awful results not because he is not good but because he is over worked. While the one with 4k patients can actually even venture into preventive care for his patients because he has a lot of spare time. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:21pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: Who decided that a new constitution was a good idea but not necessary? Show me anywhere where citizens made such an observation. It was the govt that decided so, to safeguard party interests. Survival of CCM. Research shows that the vast majority of Tz citizens want a new constitution. I can provide endless surveys showing this. The thing is, constitution review process in Tz has never been citizen-centric. It has always been a govt and party affair. Right from the beginning. I can give you a list of the problems the common citizens in your country have with the constitution, including reducing presidential powers. But what for anyway? The govt has already decided that the review is unnecessary. Of all people, you are the least qualified to talk about constitution-making and constitutional review. Take a few lessons on what it is all about, including how many times the constitutions of the US and SA were changed within the first ten years, then come back. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:24pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Just30:Doctor to patient ratio is a small part of African problems.SA with a good ratio of doctors,her citizen live less years than Tz! I can agree on a ratio of well trained nurses.The nurses or medical assistants are more helpful since you can easily use them on prevention stuff.Tz uses medical assistants on most of these areas of prevention. That's one of the reason why Tz with few doctors but we live longer! We do more on prevention. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:25pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
vaxx1: Why dont Ghanaians live as long as Kenyans or Tanzanians? What could be wrong? One or two years is not insignificant. Convert it to man hours and see what Ghana is missing. It explains alot. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:27pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:actually it is a large part of Africa healthcare problems. You keep bringing health care to life expectancy For the quadrillion time, they don't correlate. Get it in your thick skull. Sorry kiddo 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 8:28pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Kazikazi:Your line of reasoning is worrisome. you have being nairaland school on this and yet you keep repeating the hogwash. social lifestyles makes the diffrent in long life span not quality health care. no ones buy long life in the hospital, but quality health care can be buy from a country that offer it. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:29pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Just30: How Dumb Wonder what you guys feed on before posting stuff. Why not just be silent instead of being an idiot. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:30pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
TayserMahri:now you've even gotten life expectancy wrong It doesn't mean you live longer Get that right and I will answer you |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:31pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
TayserMahri:I don't expect you to know this After all, most Kenyans leave the hospital with brain deficiencies. Clinically dumb people 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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