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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 2:04pm On May 09, 2020 |
MayorofLagos: It should be called Omoahia |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 2:20pm On May 09, 2020 |
There are some lies that won't go away. The Ikwerre bible was published before the Biafra war. It is online https://ebible.org/ikwNT/JHN08.htm It is FULL OF THE WORD RUMU 33 Be sarụ Jizọsi, “A bụ rụmu Ebereham, a bụ́kolele ọhi n'aka badnụ ọbula. Ndaa kpa ị naakaa nụ a jeenwernu ẹhni aị?” 34 Jizọsi sarụ be, “Me kanụ anụ ezi ọka, nye ọbula ke neeme mmehie bụ ọhi ke mmehie. 35 Ọhi zá naadazịgidne n'ọro tim tọm, kọvu nnwọ nwe ọro ọkwnukokwnu. 36 Ọ bụru nụ Nnwọ jeeme anụ nwernu ẹhni anụ, anụ jeenwernu ẹhni anụ n'ezi. 37 M magwụ m nụ anụ bụ rụmu Ebereham, kọvu anụ noopio o gbu m, kwnornu nụ anụ kwége ikwu-ọnu m. 38 M naakanụ anụ nhne Nda m gesiri m, kọvu anụ neeme nhne nda anụ kannụ anụ.” 39 Be sarụ a, “Ebereham bụ nda aị.” Jizọsi kanụ be, “Ọ bụru nụ Ebereham bụ nda anụ n'ezi, anụ jọornu ẹrnu Ebereham rnụrnu. 40 Nhne me mernu bụ ọ kanụ anụ ezi ọka me nụrnu n'ọnu Chiokike, anụ noopio o gbu m. Ebereham méne kpam. 41 Anụ neeme nhne anụ nda anụ mernu.” Be kaa, “Chiokike bụ Nda a nwernu kpọi. A bụ́o rụmu ọyi.” Rụmu ke Ekwensu 42 Jizọsi kanụ be, “Ọ bụru nụ Chiokike bụ Nda anụ n'ezi, anụ znernu ọwhnu m n'anya, kwnornu nụ m hi m hne Chiokike zị whụya, va hna. M váge m nụ rikne aka ke m, kọvu ya ziyaru m. 43 Nhne mernu anụ ghọ́yage nhne me nookwu, ọ bụ nụ anụ bnóge nsnị n'ikwu-ọnu m. 44 Anụ bụ rụmu nda anụ Ekwensu, anụ jọornu ẹrnu nda anụ noopio. Ọ bụ nye noogbu badnụ hite n'ọpanizo. Ọ zị́la n'ezi ọka, kwnornu nụ ezi ọka zá nụ rime a. Omen'ẹli a bụ ọ gha aghalaghala, kwnornu nụ o bụ nye aghalaghala nụ nda kpakara aghalaghala. 45 Me nookwunu anụ ezi ọka, kọvu anụ zá neekweru m. 46 Nyele n'esilawụru anụ jaama m ikpe mmehie? Ọ bụru nụ me kanụ anụ ezi ọka, kịni mernu anụ kwége m? 47 Nye ọbula bụ ke Chiokike joobno nsnị ikwu-ọnu Chiokike. Kọvu anụ jóobno nsnị kwnornu nụ anụ bụ́o ele ke Chiokike.” |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 2:59pm On May 09, 2020 |
Jizọsi gọziri rụmu takịri (Mat 19:13-15; Mak 10:13-16) 15 Agwna ele badnụ nookwuyanu Jizọsi rụmu takịri be ma ọ kpatụ be aka. Nga ele sno apna a whnụrnu be, be bnanụ be mbna. 16 Kọvu Jizọsi sukwuru rụmu takịri vakwnusi a, kaa, “Anụ gharụ rụmu takịri ma be vakwnusi m, anụ bnósni be, kwnornu nụ ẹli-eze Chiokike bụ ke ele nụ kpa. 17 Me kanụ anụ ezi ọka, nye ọbula ke jéegweru ẹli-eze Chiokike lele nnwọ matị, ọ jáabna nụ rime a rịa rịa.” |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 3:05pm On May 09, 2020 |
https://ebible.org/ikwNT/MAT23.htm 37 “Chei! Jerusẹlem, Jerusẹlem, jị ke noogbu ele ọwhnurninya, ke ji akaworugwu nọolo ele be ziyannu ị. Mgba ele kpa me pioru ọ chịkota rụmu ị lele kpa enwerne ọchichi nẹechikota rụmu a nụ mkpururu aka nkwu a lawụru, kọvu i kwéle. 38 Le, be naaghasanụ anụ ọro anụ ma ọ tọbiri etekne. 39 Kwnornu nụ ka, me kanụ, hite kịtna, anụ jọ́owhnu m berere dụ nga anụ jaakaa, ‘Chiokike gọzi nye wam ke naava nụ rẹwhna Nyenwe aị.’ ” |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Melezenawii: 3:12pm On May 09, 2020 |
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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 4:02pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: This unknown writer makes a ludicrous point and then cites his pamphlet as a reference ![]() ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:06pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire: Actually what you have posted buttresses his argument. Can you dispute the repeated occurrence of RUMU in the Ikwerre bible? 1 Like |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:08pm On May 09, 2020 |
Did Ikwerre use Rumu in their bible to spite Ibos? |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 4:13pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: Translate what you posted so we can understand the meaning and context 2 Likes |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:17pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire: Cheap I don't have to do anything The English bible is online The Ikwerre bible is online https://ebible.org/ikwNT/ The igbo bible us too So just compare verse for verse Simples |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 4:21pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: But you "gave" the energy to post an unfounded hack piece as evidence ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:24pm On May 09, 2020 |
JOHN 8.33 33 Be sarụ Jizọsi, “A bụ rụmu Ebereham, a bụ́kolele ọhi n'aka badnụ ọbula. Ndaa kpa ị naakaa nụ a jeenwernu ẹhni aị?” 34 Jizọsi sarụ be, “Me kanụ anụ ezi ọka, nye ọbula ke neeme mmehie bụ ọhi ke mmehie. 35 Ọhi zá naadazịgidne n'ọro tim tọm, kọvu nnwọ nwe ọro ọkwnukokwnu. 36 Ọ bụru nụ Nnwọ jeeme anụ nwernu ẹhni anụ, anụ jeenwernu ẹhni anụ n'ezi. 37 M magwụ m nụ anụ bụ rụmu Ebereham, kọvu anụ noopio o gbu m, kwnornu nụ anụ kwége ikwu-ọnu m. 38 M naakanụ anụ nhne Nda m gesiri m, kọvu anụ neeme nhne nda anụ kannụ anụ.” 39 Be sarụ a, “Ebereham bụ nda aị.” Jizọsi kanụ be, “Ọ bụru nụ Ebereham bụ nda anụ n'ezi, anụ jọornu ẹrnu Ebereham rnụrnu. 40 Nhne me mernu bụ ọ kanụ anụ ezi ọka me nụrnu n'ọnu Chiokike, anụ noopio o gbu m. Ebereham méne kpam. 41 Anụ neeme nhne anụ nda anụ mernu.” Be kaa, “Chiokike bụ Nda a nwernu kpọi. A bụ́o rụmu ọyi.” Rụmu ke Ekwensu |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:29pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:Not unfounded https://ebible.org/ikwNT/ |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:30pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:Next thing you will say I wrote the IKWERRE BIBLE 1 Like |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 4:38pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: Ok Before independence this was the name of where this training school was located. As far as I know the Willinks Commission (I could be wrong though) did not report this forced name change that south west people are so desperate to prove for reasons best known to you 3 Likes
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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:43pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire: It is not a flow station. I know the area That is located at the Industrial Area next to Rumuomasi. Today it is called Rumubiakani The Ikwerre people are claiming Igbos renamed their towns and villages That place has been renamed to Rumubiakani for more than 40 years. Like EVERY OTHER UMU. So what exactly is the point you are making with that picture Was this on the Agenda of Willinks Commission? Is mentioning Willinks relevant here or a failed attempt to sound like you are knowledgeable Did Willinks consider the use of IBO in place of IGBO? 1 Like |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:46pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:Speak to the claim that the Ikwerre use Rumu in their bible. Was Ikwerre bible written after the civil war? |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 4:49pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:Before Independence Igbo was written as Ibo or Eboe . Even Achebe used Ibo in Things Fall Apart So what? Today you all insist on Igbo claiming someone made a mistake somewhere Why can't Ikwerres correct mistakes that they dislike? |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 4:57pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: Ikwerres who want some clout and yorubas like yourself are the ones whipping this dead horse. So Willinks Commission knowledge is a big deal to you? Let me help you. If you don't know the Willinks Commission was set up to examine minorities and their concern about domination...so yes this would have been on the agenda if it was an issue of substance BEFORE the civil war caused people to deny their heritage to survive 4 Likes |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 5:03pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:Stop ridiculing yourself. This issue has nothing to do with Willinks I have been talking about Willinks for years on Nairaland omonnakoda: I am the one to educate YOU about Willinks. It is irrelevant here |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 5:05pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:Speak about the fact tha the word Rumu is what is found in the Ikwerre bible NOT UMU The Ikwerre position which also led to the Ikwerre bible was a protest against internal Ibo colonisation |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 5:08pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:One thing that did happen at Willinks in 1957 was Ikwerre said they are NOT IBO |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 5:12pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: You don't even know the meaning of the passages you posted bearing Rumu and you want to debate it ![]() 1 Like |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 5:24pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: Did Ikwerres tell the Willinks Commission that the names of all towns in their land were renamed? Stay on topic please 1 Like |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 5:28pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:They did not tell the Commission whether they use chewing sticks or toothpaste. Once again why do we see Rumu and not umu in the Ikwerre Bible |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 5:29pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:The English version is there for everyone to see Rumu is used to mean descendants or children of. Are you disputing this? |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 5:33pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: How can a minority ethnic group's alleged marginalisation be irrelevant to the Commission created for them bikonu ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 5:36pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire: ENGLISH 33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?” IKWERRE 33 Be sarụ Jizọsi, “A bụ rụmu Ebereham, a bụ́kolele ọhi n'aka badnụ ọbula. Ndaa kpa ị naakaa nụ a jeenwernu ẹhni aị?” I |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 5:38pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:Create a thread for Willinks if you want to learn. This thread is about RUMUIZATION AND DEUMUIZATION |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by joeyfire(m): 5:51pm On May 09, 2020 |
omonnakoda: In summary...you have no proof that Igbos changed the names asides from an Ikwerre unknown clout chaser's article written to help promote his book. After claiming to be a professor of the willinks commission and knowing that the Ikwerre's petitioned the commission, you scurried away from showing what the Ikwerres told the commission when asked to prove it ![]() This myth is played out 3 Likes |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 5:53pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:The key issue is not whether Ibos changed the name but that Ikwerre have changed the names to what they want them to be for over 40 years. Why are Ibos so bitter about it? |
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 6:03pm On May 09, 2020 |
joeyfire:Yes or no At the Willinks Commission in 1957 did Ikwerre choose to be identified as Ikwerre and NOT as Ibos |
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