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Cos they are dumb.

"A fool says in his heart, there is no God"

Yes o they are

Ioannes:
Cos they are dumb.

"A fool says in his heart, there is no God"

because... They are of d devil

grin Lalasticlala, mynd44 Happy Sunday

ShoProperties:
Why isn't life enough proof for atheists that God exists? How can something so complicated occur randomly?
There will never be enough proof for atheists until God walks up to them and asks them so sit down and shut up… and I don’t see that happening. I enjoy my agnostic friends that question the existence of God. I think everyone who has faith questions at one point or another, but that is what faith is all about.

over 80% of Nigerians believes there is God and look at where we are today!

It's not as if they don't know that GOD exists: they know that GOD exists. They'd rather continue to assure themselves that He does not exist than give up their sinful lifestyles.

ShoProperties:
Why isn't life enough proof for atheists that God exists? How can something so complicated occur randomly?
There will never be enough proof for atheists until God walks up to them and asks them so sit down and shut up… and I don’t see that happening. I enjoy my agnostic friends that question the existence of God. I think everyone who has faith questions at one point or another, but that is what faith is all about.

So you're saying Life is so so complicated that it must have been created by a creator

my question for you goes thus:

Who created this creator? since this creator would be even more complicated to have occurred randomly?

and hey, you don't get to just pull the Thomas Aquinas argument or Kalam here and expect us to just accept it at face value

it’s useless. You don’t get to simply assert them and expect it to be accepted rather than laughed at. Take it for a test drive and see if it works. Make up whatever definition suits you, but does such a god actually exist?

You don’t define God as uncaused and uncreated and say, “There you go! It says so right there, in black and white.” Show me.

God was created by a bunch of ignorant herders who didnt know where the sun went at night. who asked themselves these questions and invoked "God" as answer

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DoctorAlien:
It's not as if they don't know that GOD exists: they know that GOD exists. They'd rather continue to assure themselves that He does not exist than give up their sinful lifestyles.

when will this pure nonsense statement created by pathetic religious people and spread by ignorant ones who come after them stop?


This thread examines and shows how nonsensical and asinine such statements are


now find something reasonable to say cuz the one you just said belongs to the trashcan

DoctorAlien:
It's not as if they don't know that GOD exists: they know that GOD exists. They'd rather continue to assure themselves that He does not exist than give up their sinful lifestyles.

Absolutely!

Even if God comes down again in human form,
There will still be atheists.

Why?
Atheism was never about reason.
Atheism is a branch of rebellion.

hopefulLandlord:


when will this pure nonsense statement created by pathetic religious people and spread by ignorant ones who come after them stop?

Sin will stop very soon. Don't worry. Jesus is coming very soon to judge the world in righteousness.

felixomor:
Even if God comes down again in human form,
There will still be atheists.

Why?
Atheism was never about reason.
Atheism is a branch of rebellion.

Exactly.

Yes

DoctorAlien:


Exactly.

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ShoProperties:
grin Lalasticlala, mynd44 Happy Sunday

DoctorAlien:


Sin will stop very soon. Don't worry. Jesus is coming very soon to judge the world in righteousness.

There's no such thing as "SIN", so keep preaching to the choir and the sheep who like imaginary friends (Yahweh, Allah, Paul, Jesus), imaginary enemies (Lucifer, Satan, Devil, Demon), imaginary misdemeanors (sins), imaginary Paradise (Heaven), Imaginary eternal punishment (Hell, Hell fire, Hades, Jannam)
etc

those things only exist between people's ears

ShoProperties:
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seems you're not here for discussion, just hustling for front-page
may your god grant your desire

loooool ...what do u know. i cant reply all comments under my post now but just updating it so others can see . its a good information we all need to look into ...Or ar u Daddy Freeze ni cos i know that dude is lost

hopefulLandlord:


seems you're not here for discussion, just hustling for front-page

may your god grant your desire

we are here due to our nonchalant attitude , The Lord will Take control of all Attitude when we are meant to face look for a way out

hoover420:
over 80% of Nigerians believes there is God and look at where we are today!

DoctorAlien:


Sin will stop very soon. Don't worry. Jesus is coming very soon to judge the world in righteousness.

That's what you believe. I thought Jesus told his desciples that he was coming during their lifetime?

felixomor:
Even if God comes down again in human form,
There will still be atheists.

Why?
Atheism was never about reason.
Atheism is a branch of rebellion.

Your unbelief in Allah is not based on reason but purely based on rebellion. Christianity is nothing but rebellion to the true God Allah.

DoctorAlien:
It's not as if they don't know that GOD exists: they know that GOD exists. They'd rather continue to assure themselves that He does not exist than give up their sinful lifestyles.

Honestly this is not an argument - it's like saying one knows the police exist but then willfully imagines they don't so they can commit crimes.

I never thought someone could still use this. . It's a wow...

And again SIN is not exactly same as morals and ethics...

So tell me does having a belief make you anymore moral and ethical than me?

Secondly - almost 95% of Nigerians believe in a God, tell me would you say Nigeria is sinless ?

hopefulLandlord:


There's no such thing as "SIN", so keep preaching to the choir and the sheep who like imaginary friends (Yahweh, Allah, Paul, Jesus), imaginary enemies (Lucifer, Satan, Devil, Demon), imaginary misdemeanors (sins), imaginary Paradise (Heaven), Imaginary eternal punishment (Hell, Hell fire, Hades, Jannam)
etc

those things only exist between people's ears

I'm surprised this is coming from you.. are you talking about just Christianity or in the worldview of all religions..??

ShoProperties:
Why isn't life enough proof for atheists that God exists? How can something so complicated occur randomly?
There will never be enough proof for atheists until God walks up to them and asks them so sit down and shut up… and I don’t see that happening. I enjoy my agnostic friends that question the existence of God. I think everyone who has faith questions at one point or another, but that is what faith is all about.

The Famous Johannes Kepler once thought that the moon craters were works of intelligent beings on the moon, he observed the perfect geometrical models of the craters and he attributed this to intelligence since he thinks that such perfect circles can not be formed through random chaotic natural causalities - so he concluded that there must equally be intelligent beings on the moon just like earth.

But it's no news that he was wrong, the craters even though perfect circles are in fact product of chance and chaos, random fates interwoven in an uncharted cosmic play.
falling bodies of great speed (e.g meteors) will create a local explosion equally symetrical in every direction therefore creates perfect circles. so you are making the same mistake kepler did and that is placing a limit on nature from what you think it can achieve or cant.

Life is a chemistry made mostly of the most abundant elements in the universe, it's an intricate organic chemisty but the bedrocks of this chemistry is also abundant through out the universe - Hydrogen, carbon, oxygen, nitrogen are the basic compositions in the chemisty of life they are also the commonest elements in the universe.

Johanness kepler once asked while eating a salad "If this lettuce, cabbage, carrot, peas and milk has been floating eternally, could they be that by chance they will at a point meet and salad is made?"

"yes" was the answer given by his wife.

The universe has oxygen and hydrogen in abundance do you think water is not a MUST result? even though it is dependent on random distribution of these elements - water is still in abundance through out this cosmos.

the universe has every material necessary for life, you are just limiting it's possibility by establishing the limit of complexity you think it can achieve which is in fact dishonest - nature is boundless and as far as we know the universe might be teaming with life just like it has water.

even an organic compound as complex as ethanol (alcohol) occurs naturally.

Complexity can also be a product of accumulation over time, you are neglecting the important factor which is TIME.

then again let us examine the argument that "something complex cannot be without being designed" well i am not saying you are wrong by saying God must have probably designed life or anything else but check this.

For something to be conscious, intelligent and powerful enough to design or create something as intricate as life that thing must be equally as complex or even more complex.

so isn't God definite and perfect?
Isn't God beautiful?
isn't God overly complex?

unless you would argue that God is just a conscious nebulous nothing.

so using an even more complex thing (God) to explain the complexity of life by trailing the line "nothing complex can exist without being put in place by external design" the argument falls on itself.

since God is equally complex doesn't that logic require God to be also designed and caused? But if you say God is not caused or designed then you have by yourself contradicted your own argument by proposing something (God) can exist without being put in place.

therefore we can still apply that pleading, save a step and say that your argument does not hold sway on the complexity of life.

Chance is a cosmological agent - imagine this, on the night of your conception up to 2million sperm cells swam towards the ovum and each of this sperm cells could have formed a different individual and do not forget that even the ovum itself if it was different could still lead to a different result.

so now even your own chance of existing is less than 1:2,000,000... but yet here you are, it means that up to 2,000,000 other possible humans are not existing because you are existing.

it was a very slim chance, nearly impossible but you are here - Understand this that something is unlikely or has a slim chance is not exactly same as impossible and given a very broad field of incessant causalities like the cosmos 'nothing is impossible'

How life came about is a question. Saying the presence of life is evidence of the existence of God Is begging the question.

DoctorAlien:
It's not as if they don't know that GOD exists: they know that GOD exists. They'd rather continue to assure themselves that He does not exist than give up their sinful lifestyles.

I wonder who liked this
I'm sure it was Felixomor
Yeah sure you're right
All pilots need to do to keep on flying planes how they like is to just stop believing in empty fuel tanks. That way they can willfully indulge in infinite flight
This is how you sound

I don't know what is wrong with these athiests either. Even a casual look around reveals that there is a creator.

Dear athiests: the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER IS REAL. Accept him and worship him. Eat pasta. Let his long, firm strand of spaghetti deep inside you.

It is really worth having the delights of this world only to spend an eternity with stale beer and diseased strippers?

ShoProperties:
we are here due to our nonchalant attitude , The Lord will Take control of all Attitude when we are meant to face look for a way out

"The lord will take control".....

That is exactly the nonsense mentality that got Nigeria into this mess today

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As for your question......


Why isn't spaghetti noodles enough reason for you to believe FSM exists.

dalaman:


Your unbelief in Allah is not based on reason but purely based on rebellion. Christianity is nothing but rebellion to the true God Allah.

Sorry, Islam is 700 years younger than even Christianity....
Its only in your world an older person rebels against a baby

You dont always make sense, i dont know why

ShoProperties:
Why isn't life enough proof for atheists that God exists? How can something so complicated occur randomly?
There will never be enough proof for atheists until God walks up to them and asks them so sit down and shut up… and I don’t see that happening. I enjoy my agnostic friends that question the existence of God. I think everyone who has faith questions at one point or another, but that is what faith is all about.

My brother, those set of people do believe that God exist...they are the people who have allowed satan to blindfold them to believing that God doesn't exist.

hopefulLandlord:



So you're saying Life is so so complicated that it must have been created by a creator

my question for you goes thus:

Who created this creator? since this creator would be even more complicated to have occurred randomly?

and hey, you don't get to just pull the Thomas Aquinas argument or Kalam here and expect us to just accept it at face value

it’s useless. You don’t get to simply assert them and expect it to be accepted rather than laughed at. Take it for a test drive and see if it works. Make up whatever definition suits you, but does such a god actually exist?

You don’t define God as uncaused and uncreated and say, “There you go! It says so right there, in black and white.” Show me.

God was created by a bunch of ignorant herders who didnt know where the sun went at night. who asked themselves these questions and invoked "God" as answer

This one is far doomed.