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Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Fremancipation: 9:11pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
IPOB is reaching out to minorities in the south south and in fact they are making huge progress in that area. In the past, it was mostly igbos that used to call into radio Biafra but now people from various groups are calling in to show their support. The journey of a thousand miles starts with a step. In 2014 Nnamdi kanu was ignored by Jonathan In 2015 IPOB and Biafra was called Online country In 2016 IPOB protesters were called jobless and touts and that Igbo elites will not support them In 2017 Igbo kings and political elites are now showing support to IPOB and asking buhari to release Nnamdi Kanu Please look at these Facts and tell me that IPOB is not making progress. 10 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Sweetle(f): 9:19pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Hmmmm |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Fremancipation: 9:21pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
bantudra: I and like minded Igbo folks don't care about your insults. Please keep them coming. It adds fuel to the fire burning within. To us that survived a genocide of 3 million people, insult to us is almost like hitting us with pillow. 6 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by bantudra: 9:38pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Fremancipation: yea...lets insult each other,,,,i dont care too..........you go start rubbish on the streets then the police and army will like you wella... look at you....shey na me kill 3 million people??....you angry,go angry on a hausa forum not here on nairaland... other people have other things to think about than biafra war all day long.. most of us were not even born at that time...what the hell you want to argue with us for ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Develpeast: 9:45pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
I don't know why this topic is very important and why we are giving people the power to talk to us in a way that is not supposed to be heard. This is a case of an adult playing a kid's play. Have you seen the hausas or the yorubas engage them in any form of argument? Why will you all always respond to them and make them feel they are the most important people in this country? Seriously, with or without the minorities we can be whoever or whatever we want to be. The question for the minorities, what is there to lose that you have not lost before if you join biafra? 7 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by bantudra: 9:46pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Develpeast: everything...you igbos are confirmed rascists.... 1 Like |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 9:47pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Fremancipation:If IPOB is making such progress, then its commendable, but I, personally, will love an only Igbo country. This is my position, except otherwise, its proven beyond all reasonable doubts that other group in the ND want to tag along. 3 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by bantudra: 9:49pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
blues20: better let go of the niger delta...i know you igbos will land in pepper soup with this una biafra nonesense.. keep the delta out of it...delta igbo or not... |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Develpeast: 9:51pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
[quote author=bantudra post=55144827] everything...you igbos are confirmed rascists....[/] Give me few instances where igbos have been racist to you and your tribe? |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 9:51pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Develpeast:Thank God you are here. How are you doing? Seriously, the other ND groups should be begging to join the struggle, not the other way round. IPOB should focus more on Igboid South South..... if the movement become appealing to these group, they will naturally blend along. |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Develpeast: 9:52pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
blues20: Nwanne, how are you doing and how is it going with you? |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 9:53pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
[quote author=Develpeast post=55144989][/quote] No mind that guy. He just wan prod you. |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Nobody: 9:55pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Develpeast:I'm fine... I'll call you tomorrow morning, if you don't mind. |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by bantudra: 9:56pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
[quote author=Develpeast post=55144989][/quote] by using the word minorities is already rascism.... |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 10:03pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Develpeast: We should naturally be wary of people/groups who add us to maps without our official consent and approval, especially when nothing of such has been discussed. Moreso for those of us in Delta South/Central who were NEVER in the original short-lived Biafran Republic. Make no mistake when I tell you that the average minority man does not segregate between majority groups. We treat Igbos with the same discontent as we treat Hausas and Yorubas. In our eyes, you guys are all the causes of the problems in the nation. After all, it was your leaders that fabricated this lie of a country, forced us into it and turned it to turmoils. How many people from the minority groups have had a chance at leadership? How many of the minorities have attempted their rights at self-determination? How many have actually gained what they really want? What has the Igbo (who claims to be a friend) done for any minority group before? In fact, speaking for Urhobos now, it was the Hausas that supported us against the Itsekiri (Yoruba backed) when the Warri Land saga was at its peak. Where was Igbo then? Even now, the Hausas and Yorubas are open to our problems far more than Igbos, who are more obsessed with adding us in Biafra. Have the IPOBians ever tried to woo the minorities? Have they talked to them? This thing goes beyond using trucks to load South Easterners to minority territories to protest. It is an existential affair! IPOB has done NOTHING for the minorities to warrant her trust. You asked the minorities what they stand to lose. The answer is nothing. What do they stand to gain in Biafra? The answer is NOTHING! Biafran proponents act as if the so-called Biafrans aren't the Igbos of today in power or those in the civil service or those in the police/military or those in businesses that we all can see. NOTHING will change. Biafra will favour the Igbos, no doubts. But for the minorities, it is nothing more than a smaller version of Nigeria where the Igbos hold sway and no other group can EVER command the numerical majority that they would have. At the end, our destiny lies in our hands and our hands alone. No one can speak for us. No one can ask us to undertake a referendum but ourselves. If Itsekiris are asking for a referendum as Ikechu10 said in the other thread, then they have a right to that and should do that but as I am informed, it is not for BIAFRA but for another ideology entirely. If Urhobos come up with a referendum today, it won't be for BIAFRA but for an Urhobo Country! If alliances are formed between the minorities, it would be solely on our terms. Biafra should be wholly Igboid and should remain so. The majority-minority gap is too wide between Igbo and any non-Igboid groups in the South-South for a mutually beneficial alliance to be formed. Blues20 has spoken the truth and I commend him for it. Fremancipation and others should take note of these salient points and change their orientation. 3 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Totti9(m): 10:07pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
The truth is that the so called non igbo in niger delta don't even want those igboid clans out of niger delta they believe those that those igboid clans are part of them... Lol 3 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Fremancipation: 10:09pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
blues20: The truth is that Lots of non-Igbo south south groups are watching closely and are mostly on the fence. They may pretend like they don't care but in reality, they are paying very close attention to what is going on. They just don't want to join a fruitless venture and thats why a lot of them are holding back. The onus is on IPOB to keep pushing. The oppressor never gives freedom to the oppress. Only the oppressed can demand and take it. The moment a referendum is called for Biafra by the UN, all those shakara will go out the window. Finally make no mistake. There will be nothing like Niger delta republic so that wont even be an option on the table. it doesn't exits online or offline. It only used by trolls to counter Biafra during arguments. 6 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by cheruv: 10:09pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Lemme add my voice to this issue... Looking at it geopolitically and otherwise, I think its wise for IPOB to restrict its campaigns to the Igboid tribes in Nigeria. If for expediency reasons they need to have non Igbos then only the Igoni should be considered. Why the Igoni if you may ask ![]() Edoid tribes whether sobo or chekri have no place in Biāfra... Kos if they do,then Bini and Ishã and the Kukuruku should also....likewise the Rukwo, they already have their Niger Delta Socialist Republic as declared by Boro on Feb 12,1966 and so should have no business with neo-biafra.I know some Eastern Rukwo tribes like the kalabari and the kirike espouse pro Biāfra leanings probably due to the Igbo ancestry some of them have but I think that's where it stops. Even the famed Mmoŋo should have no part in Biāfra... Their lot lies with Ambazania to the East and that's our lots as Igbos to help liberate that area from Cameroon and reunite them with the Mmoŋo. IPOB should focus more on the Igboid and Kegboid tribes and leave the others alone. Hitler before embarking on war first of all rebuilt the German economy and made it the strongest in Europe and second in the world before embarking on world conquest. For you to shoot an arrow,you've to pull back and then release the arrow. IPOB should pull back first...I mean solidify its hold on the Igboid and Kegboid areas before expanding. Otu a ka o ham n'olu ![]() |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Fremancipation: 10:11pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Totti9: I thought I was the only on that has been noticing this. They desperately want SS igbos to deny their igboness. Ok continue. 6 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by ConqueredWest: 10:21pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Amarabae and Blues20 Fratermathy I have being following Biafra movements since 1999 Before 1999, I had a strong feeling about the re emergence of Biafra around 1997 even before Uwazuruike conceive the idea of Biafra One thing I want to educate the 3 of you is that, if you guys want One Nigeria to continue to exist, then talk to Hausa Fulani Yoruba people to entrench True Federalism which will definitely destroy their plan to dip into the sea the Quran and Fulani Supremacy. As for the issue of non Igbos joining the Biafra movement, as early as 2001, Newsweek or Times Magazine published a Memorandum of Understanding between the Ijaws and Igbos concerning Biafra For this reason, OBJ planned assassinating Ojukwu but failed when he gave Ojukwu a ticket to Abuja without including a return ticket Ojukwu exposed the ploy to the world which was aired on Channels TV then Ojukwu during OBJ's time visited the Tivs to convince them to join Biafra of which he was told to relocate all his businesses to Benue State. For that reason, the Tivs are not included in the Biafran project unlike the Idomas. I don't know how old the 3 of you are but one thing I know is that I know things you 3 don't know Before Boko Haram started, I knew even before the DSS and SSS discovered this group. Do you know the most funny thing was that they had a base in the East which couldn't operate effectively due to the aggressive hostile nature of Christian Igbos towards Islam. If you guys think Fulani herdsmen terrorism and grazing reserves are coincidence then it means you guys are below 20years of age The truth is that, not everything will be said online in order not to give the enemy a hint to plan better. , Pazienza, Ngozi123, paschu, myplaydiary, Midol, Cheruv, iSlayer2, Pazienza, Bigfrancis21 Nebuchadnezar dedetwo Fremancipation pazienza Ngozi123 Ikechu10 and others keep up the good work Even if I die tomorrow, pls do not surrender for the sake of the unborn ones and their freedom Biafra is about freedom from colonial error Biafra is about freedom from Islamic terror Biafra is about freedom from the curse placed on Africa If Biafra fails Africa will remain a backward continent As Japan spur the rise of Asians so shall Biafra spur that of Africans You guys mustn't give up even at the point of death Biafra or Death Freedom or Slavery God is with us IPOB keep praying and fighting for victory is certain Aluta Continua Victoria Acerta Struggle Continues Until Victory Is Certain God bless you guys Don't worry about our deaths Every fallen hero is before God pleading for our freedom Tell Nnamdi Kanu not to surrender It was one day slavery ended It was one day colonialism ended It was one day Soviet Union ended If Nigeria can be free from Colonialism, Biafra can be free from Oppression God grant the fallen ones eternal rest at his blossoms Remain Blessed Someone should get this across to IPOB Though Victory Might Tarry But Surely It Shall Come Through Prayers and Smart works. Send this complete post to IPOB Remain Blessed ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 10:23pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Fremancipation: Like the typical IPOB Igbo stating the limits of what the SSners can do or not. Who gave you the right to deny a people their genuine aspirations towards their own nation? How do you feel when Hausa-Yorubas say NO to your Biafra? You can't be the one to stop other people's rivers from flowing and expect yours to flow as well. You guys should start awakening to the realisation that the SSners have their own goals and aspirations. As a Deltan and an Urhoboman, I have never aspired towards to the Igbo cause in any way. All my people have never considered the Igbo as their own in any way. We have an Urhobo identity, a pan-Edo consciousness and a Nigerian outlook (until further notice). Never for once have we seen Igbos as allies, friends or anything else than fellow Nigerians. This applies to virtually all SSners that are non-Igbo speaking. What is the concern of the Ogoja man with Igbos? What is the business of the Ogoni man from Gokhana with Igbos? Ditto for the Itsekiri and Ijaw, among others. These minorities, at best, have only a pan-State identity. An Urhobo may see himself as a Deltan and would therefore be moved to solidarity with the Ukwuani, Ika and Enuani peoples. Beyond this, the minorities have their own exit plans from Nigeria should the nation disintegrate. Biafra was never an option for many of these groups. Minorities have faced vicissitudes that the Igbo may never fully understand. The Nigerian reality of being pushed around and denied rightful identities is still a psychological scar that the Igbo IPOB has exacerbated with their attempts at annexation. The Igbo Biafra can survive without access to a sea. If that is their issue, they should DISCUSS it with WILLING ethnic groups close to the coasts. You don't play Lugard with people's destinies. If OIL is the issue, try and preach "nwannem" to the Ikwerre and Anioma, your own people and they'd be more than willing to give it to you. If the intent of adding minorities to Biafra is anything other than the preceding, then rest assured that it will fail because we already have our plans. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 10:29pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
ConqueredWest: You've only ranted here. However, because an Igbo created this thread, you have refused to troll and call his off his claims. Well done for that! If I were you, I would take his genuine advice. The SS is a big place with more than 30 ethnic groups. When you IPOB Igbos use the phrase "South-South", always specify which of the areas/ethnic homelands you are referring to because many of us are highly apathetic to the Igbo cause. No thanks to the misinformed strategies of IPOB! The Biafra project is bound to fail, like Nigeria, if built upon the philosophy of majority-minority groups. Something that CANNOT be avoided. Why then do you force yourself on these people? Take your majority status and use it to your advantage. Get your nation and get it fast. Leave the minorities to BEG you to join your cause. You attract insult when you FORCEFULLY add people to the cause. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Dedetwo(m): 10:29pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
The only strategy in IPOB refused to employ and it strikes me with vexation is allegedly lack of conventional weapon. Mushroom groups or no groups, boundaries shall be determined through the muzzle of guns. 4 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 10:30pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Fremancipation: Do not misinform yourself. Many of us see these Igboid groups as nothing more than Igbo! In Delta State, we call them Delta IGBO. In Edo, they are called Edo IGBO. In Rivers, they are called Rivers IGBO! No matter how much noise they make about it, they are primarily Igbo speaking people. Whatever they choose to call themselves after that is okay. |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 10:34pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
cheruv: I have objections to Ogoni being added because they, too, have their own destiny in their hands but you have made sense! Ka Chineke gọzie gị maka na-ekwu eziokwu! However, it is Urhobo, not Sobo. Itsekiri, not Chekri. I know you know the correct spellings but deliberately use the colonial and derogatory spellings. Adịghị anya maka nsogbu ebe ọ dighi onye. |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by cheruv: 10:39pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Fremancipation:That's where it behooves on IPOB to strengthen the Igbo consciousness of these Igboid tribes rather than go fishing in unknown waters that Nigeria calls minorities. Hold caucuses with their political and traditional leaders and ensure their concerns are well taken care of |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Totti9(m): 10:40pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Fremancipation:to me the reasons is that they know quite well that if you remove those igboid clans out of that niger delta they're going to be very very tiny hence the rant for the igbos to let them be Lol them wan use our people complete dia number ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by cheruv: 10:41pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Dedetwo:Dede dede!!! ![]() You remind me of the battles of Onicha |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Fremancipation: 10:42pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Dedetwo: Trust me Nigeria will push IPOB to that point of no return. IPOB is just buying time and using every available diplomatic avenue so that when that time comes, the international community will know the real culprit which is Nigeria and its government and they will starve them of weapon to win. 1967 is one in a life opportunity for NIgeria. Igbo worldwide diaspora will mobilize overnight. For now we IPOB will continue to expose Nigeria to the international community. Amnesty international has made major powers stops selling weapons to Nigeria. 7 Likes |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by Develpeast: 10:42pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
blues20: This is funny thing about the ipob struggle, i do not think they have anything to lose and so much to gain if they join the struggle. I just get tired when i hear them talk so much about it |
Re: IPOB And The Need To Reform Her Strategy: by fratermathy(m): 10:46pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
cheruv: Oh! If only I could shake your hands for saying this. IPOB and Igbo at large have the primary objective of wooing the Igboid tribes. Many of them have identity crises, especially the Ika and Ukwuani of Delta State. IPOB and Igbo nation should first attract these ones and with the way they do it, other non-Igboid groups may even be impressed and COME TO IGBO for negotiations on the Biafran project. As it is now, there is no precedent to show the minorities the true intent of the Igbo nation and IPOB. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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