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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:02am On Aug 14, 2014
agaugust:
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SANDF hollywood demo photos....You could not even catch Rhino poachers, you failed, now moviing all Rhinos away from Kruger park cheesy cheesy

Strawman argument

Anti-poaching is not an SANDF responsibility, as much as you try to say otherwise.

Guarding hot borders are

Must I remind you that the SANDF has apprehended 80 000 illegal immigrants during the course of OP Corona?

Also

This year boko haram has killed more Nigerian civilians than poachers have killed rhino

South Africa better protects it's animals than Nigeria does it's own people

Boom. I slapped you with not one but 3 counter-arguments.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by fydence: 11:05am On Aug 14, 2014
agaugust:

Nigeria has world class cities, I proved that. South Africa has more of it, yes, thanks to your 5 milliom white-man Boer masters who wasted your fathers' and mothers' destiny in the process of building South African infrastructure for the white-man's benefit.

THIZA, go kiss the shoes of F.W. DE-KLERK cheesy cheesy

Say thank you to Nigeria, we led the fight for your freedom, now you THIZA can have laptop to post photos, but 30 years ago, can you enter South African airport? No you dare not....Those same Police dogs in photos you have been posting here, will eat you up cheesy cheesy



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lolz...thatz one brutal poster putting it 'diplomatically'...'listed as missing'...lmao

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:06am On Aug 14, 2014
agaugust:


Nigeria saved your Grand Papas' lives from destruction cheesy cheesy

You these ungrateful coconut heads cheesy cheesy


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OMG Mandela once visited Nigeria?

O wow so impressive

You had nothing to do with the liberation struggle - hence why you were snubbed Madibas funeral. Who were the major speakers I ask you? They were those who actually assisted South Africa

Clowns, you were the biggest dictatorship Africa at the time... Nigerians don't know what freedom means cheesy

As usual you chimps flap your gums in a vain attempt to try to catch a fleeting glimpse of another's achievements

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by fydence: 11:09am On Aug 14, 2014
agaugust:

The poachers did not need to challenge SANDF is battle, they hardly ever meet face to face, your army and air force was not intelligent enough to find them. SANDF only finds dead and de-horned Rhinos in Kruger park...poacher already escaped to Zimbabwe with your Rhino horns.
#DoctorSpiritTins
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:13am On Aug 14, 2014
agaugust:

The Chinese MRAP is new in market, Nigeria is the first to test it in battle and it is good. We have opened it to the world market.

American MRAPs are used by many countries, USA, Britain, France , Canada, Italy, Pakistan, etc...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_(mine_protected_vehicle)

South African MRAPs cannot match the Americans RPG resistant MRAPs

PHOTO : AMERICAN MRAP



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South African MRAPS are inferior to American ones?

Lol ok I guess that's why the Americans bought thousands of our MRAPS
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:40am On Aug 14, 2014
andrewza:

You don't have any stupid spy baloon.

"The Nigeria Army said it has developed intelligent devices that will tackle the Boko Haram insurgency.
The Nigerian Army on Wednesday boasted that it has developed hi-tech devices capable of gathering information and intelligence to tackle the Boko Haram insurgency and other acts of terrorism across the country.

The General Officer Commanding, 2 Div., Ibadan, Ahmed Tijani, made the disclosure at a lecture held at the Army formations headquarters in Ibadan.
Mr. Tijani, a Major General, said the sophisticated devices, in form of balloons, were unveiled in 2012.

According to Mr. Tijani, the technology has been upgraded and has a 84 kilometer launch into space.
The Guest Speaker, Brigadier General Nwokoro Ijioma, spoke on the theme, “Transforming the army into a force better able to meet contemporary challenges”.
He said the balloons would be deplored to the hotbeds of terrorism attacks in the country.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:47am On Aug 14, 2014
andrewza:

American MRAPs are being given to there plocie, scrapped, left in Astan or being put in storage. They built thousands of them but they not really good for long term use. US MRAPs are heavy, bad off road and suffer from logiscal and maintance issues. Hence so many being scrapped. Those that are good are being gobbeled up by US ploice departments. The really good ones the US army will keep.

China? They had to come learn from SA. Even your big foot needed SA help.

All this, yet the Americans and chinese are the leaders in MRAPs.

There are multiple MRAP manufactures across the world including the Nigerian made Proforce PF-1 MRAP.

They are not a unique piece of equipment, and can be made by anybody who chooses to.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:55am On Aug 14, 2014
patches689:

We were the first and ours are the most popular in the world

Wrong.

The bushmaster and cougar are the most popular MRAPs in the world.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:57am On Aug 14, 2014
patches689:

Is Britain all of NATO?

All NATO troops carry a "personal radio kit".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:09pm On Aug 14, 2014
agaugust:

Nigeria has world class cities, I proved that. South Africa has more of it, yes, thanks to your 5 milliom white-man Boer masters who wasted your fathers' and mothers' destiny in the process of building South African infrastructure for the white-man's benefit.

THIZA, go kiss the shoes of F.W. DE-KLERK cheesy cheesy

Say thank you to Nigeria, we led the fight for your freedom, now you THIZA can have laptop to post photos, but 30 years ago, can you enter South African airport? No you dare not....Those same Police dogs in photos you have been posting here, will eat you up cheesy cheesy



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The ret/ard keeps posting that shit on and on like it got anything to do with them.

He, and his likes should go thanking P.W botha and nigeria for giving him the freedom he now enjoys.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:28pm On Aug 14, 2014
patches689:

So you admit that South Africa is the better country

Nigeria as a nation is 166 years behind South Africa

You also have no world class cities

White built and occupied south-africa has better infrastructure than nigeria, but colonised nigeria has world class cities, and a diversified, much bigger economy, which ranks amongst the largest in the world.

South-africa can never be a better country than nigeria.

Lagos, Abuja, calabar are the best cities in nigeria, with Eko atlantic, centenary city under construction.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 12:44pm On Aug 14, 2014
Henry120:

The ret/ard keeps posting that shit on and on like it got anything to do with them.

He, and his likes should go thanking P.W botha and nigeria for giving him the freedom he now enjoys.


The people of SA fought for their own freedom. Whoever told you such miserable lies will not enter the heaven. Thousands of young SA never died so that you can come and claim an easy victory. No single Nigerian ever thrown a single stone on those apartheid police nor even take a bullent. You know nothing about the struggle of SA and stop claiming lies about Botha and Nigeria. Both they mean nothing in struggle of SA.

Obama as a youth played a major role bigger than that of Nigeria in the struggle for liberation in SA by mobilising support against Apartheid in the US. Cuba above all played a meaningful role on the struggle and have all the rights to say that I have done this and that. Not Nigeria which is just insulting SA with lies when Abacha was busy enjoying himself to death with indian prostitutes.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 12:50pm On Aug 14, 2014
Henry120:

White built and occupied south-africa has better infrastructure than nigeria, but colonised nigeria has world class cities, and a diversified, much bigger economy, which ranks amongst the largest in the world.

South-africa can never be a better country than nigeria.

Lagos, Abuja, calabar are the best cities in nigeria, with Eko atlantic, centenary city under construction.

South Africa is positively a better country than Nigeria. Of all the cities you mentioned above none of them can even reach the level of just Bloemfontein in SA. I physically know all those cities and they are very dirty and do not have infrastructure. Just rag tag cities compared to world class Cape town, Jhb, Durban, Port Elizabeth, etc. Shame on you!!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:01pm On Aug 14, 2014
Msauza:

The last time I remember there was no single Nigerian who died under the struggle of SA. The Cubans and Angolans have much contribution than you but they do not have big mouth like you.

Lastly, the honour goes to youth of 1976 who fought for the freedom of SA. Nigeria always like to be forward with everything even to where it did nothing. Zim, Moz and Bots all had major contribution than Nigeria, financially and militarily .


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Apartheid in South Africa was not defeated by military or financial power. Cuban/Angolan military fought SADF to a draw, no winner.

South African apartheid regime was defeated by economic sanctions, international isolation and ostracization that cut them off from the rest of the world, grinding the economy and polity of South Africa to a steady halt...that was the intelligent strategy created, effected, campaigned, spread, and led by Nigeria the giant of Africa.

Freedom fighters were wasting AK-47 bullets in the bush....it did NOT free Mandela....Nigerian international diplomatic war did the job perfectly.

Proves to you Nigerian brains are the smartest in Africa !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:01pm On Aug 14, 2014
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-35855/


PMP expanding product portfolio

by Guy Martin, August 14, 10:31 am

Ammunition manufacturer Pretoria Metal Pressings (PMP) is diversifying its product range, manufacturing Russian calibre ammunition and investing in research and development, such as polymer bullet casings and less than lethal ammunition.


PMP recently concluded an agreement with US company PolyCase on the manufacture of heavy metal free ammunition and polymer cartridge cases, which are lighter and much cheaper than conventional brass. PMP is also conducting its own research into these areas and aims to double its research and development efforts in the next two years as it keeps abreast of technology and increases its portfolio and turnover.

Some of the research and development projects PMP is involved with deal with programmable fuses, heavy metal-free primary explosives and incorporating 3D printing in components and manufacturing processes.

PMP is collaborating with a number of institutions on research and development, such as the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), Armscor and various local universities. PMP is looking at a number of new areas, including less than lethal ammunition, and is exploring collaboration with various small arms and ammunition manufacturers such as Brugger and Thomet (B&T) on less than lethal ammunition production (Denel is marketing some of B&T's small arms). Phaladi Petje, CEO of PMP, said that less than lethal ammunition was needed for the local security clusters in South Africa.

Petje noted that the 2012 Defence Review calls for the support of the South African National Defence Force and the consolidation of sovereign capabilities within South Africa. As a result, the company is trying to be sure it can localise some technologies that are critical to the defence force.

Part of the process of expanding the product portfolio and finding new markets involves being competitive and for this reason PMP is embarking on a massive machinery improvement programme worth R400 million over the next five years. This will see new machinery bought and older machinery upgraded and improved. The plant renewal process has begun, with some systems set to come on line in the next two to three years.

PMP aims to double its turnover to more than R1 billion over the next five years as it increases its presence in Africa and meets the needs of the local market. As part of its strategy of expanding into Africa, PMP recently made the decision to begin manufacturing Russian 7.62 x 39 mm ammunition for the AK-47 series of assault rifles and their generics. At the moment the company is ready to produce and deliver this type of ammunition and has sent out quotations to interested customers. It is also nearly ready to deliver 23 mm Russian calibre cannon ammunition. Petje told defenceWeb that there are requirements for the 23 mm ammunition and PMP is in discussions with clients for a 'substantial amount'. He added that PMP has been having successes supplying ammunition to some countries in Africa.

"We realised that to penetrate the African market, we need products to complement their systems," Petje said of the decision to manufacture Russian calibre ammunition, as a significant number of African countries use Russian rather than Western ammunition and military equipment.

As a state-owned company, PMP exists primarily to serve South Africa's needs first. "We exist to meet the SANDF's requirements and have an obligation to add to the national development objectives," Petje said. In addition to supplying the South African National Defence Force with various calibres of ammunition, PMP also disposes of old ammunition stocks and recovers the copper, which is used in other applications, but the company is exploring the possibility of ammunition disposal on the rest of the continent.

PMP is currently producing 30 x 173 mm ammunition for the 30 mm GI30 CamGun of the Badger infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) being built for the South African Army. The company is busy qualifying the 30 x 173 mm CamGun ammunition for the Bushmaster cannon, which is extremely popular throughout the world and therefore a good export prospect. Petje said PMP would hopefully soon be having a foreign sale involving this type of ammunition.

PMP also developed the 20 x 42 mm ammunition for the shoulder-fired Neopup weapon. The ammunition is ready for production.

Since Swartklip ceased manufacturing .22 Long ammunition some years ago, there has been no local production of this type of ammunition and this is something PMP may consider as there is lots of demand. "It is in our thoughts," Petje said, noting that the company receives many requests for quotes for such ammunition.

Some 40-55% of local manufacture is exported but in a good year Petje said PMP can export up to 60%. This year he expects the company to export 55-60% of its turnover. For the first time in many years PMP has a good order book - normally at this time of year he said the company has around 55% order coverage but at the moment it is sitting on 100%. "Next year is exciting," Petje said, in terms of both orders and partnerships, with a 'significant' order pipeline.

One third of PMP's turnover goes towards non-military business, such as chemicals for the mining industry, blasting fuses for mines and brass strip for industry. As PMP increases its turnover, it is expecting to sell mining drill bits outside South Africa, which is currently its main market for drill bits.

PMP makes ejection seat cartridges under license from Martin Baker and supports the ejection seats of the Hawk Lead-In Fighter-Trainer and Gripen fighter jet of the South African Air Force. The company also supplies different power cartridges e.g. fire extinguisher cartridges, bomb release cartridges, etc. for some international clients.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:11pm On Aug 14, 2014
patches689:

So you admit that South Africa is the better country

Nigeria as a nation is 166 years behind South Africa

You also have no world class cities

Quote where I ever said South Africa is a better country...quote it.

You have more cities built with modern infrastructure, that's all I said. Thank your master F.W. De Klerk for your fine buildings and roads.

What makes you better? All South Africa's modern cities are crime infested and unsafe, Johannesburg has been declared as the most unfriendly city in the world.

Nigerian insecurity is limited to the remote, rural border towns with very few people.

99% of Nigeria's modern cities are 99% safe to live in and friendly to the core.

Nigeria's economy is almost double that of South Africa, we have 6 times less debt, and big companies like Nissan, Toyota, Ford are all systematically running away from South Africa to find salvation, deliverance, and prosperity of business in Nigeria.

Lagos business hub is slowly taking the cream and icing sugar off your cake to make Pretoria economically dry and tasteless cheesy cheesy



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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:13pm On Aug 14, 2014
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-35673/


Armscor and AMD forging a strategic alliance

by defenceWeb, July 31, 10:00 am

Four days after Defence and Military veterans Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula went public on the soon to be established National Defence Industry Council (NDIC), top Armscor and AMD personnel committed to a "new focus on improving efficiencies".


The meeting is part of new Armscor chair retired Vice Admiral Johannes Mudimu's stated intention of strengthening relationships between the South African defence industry and the acquisition agency to the benefit of South Africa's military personnel.

"For the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) to continue safeguarding the sovereignty of South Africa and on its peacekeeping missions on the continent it is of the utmost importance it is equipped with the necessary systems in time and on time. It is thus crucial that Armscor and the local defence industry work together to meet this need," Mudimu said after the meeting with senior representatives of the SA Aerospace, Maritime and Defence Industries Association (AMD).

The meeting saw issues and concerns discussed, including industry support and acquisition policies which impact directly on both the development and sustainability of the local defence industry. This led to a decision that existing Armscor/AMD sub-committees to continue work on finding "effective and efficient collaborative solutions," Mudimu said.

Dean Mogale, AMD chair, said after the meeting his association and Armscor were "forging an open and engaging communication platform".

"This is not only to the benefit of the customer - the SANDF - but for the defence industry as a whole. We are committed to transforming the defence industry in support of government's strategic imperatives, especially in the areas of BEE compliance, skills development, training and support of SMMEs."

Both Mudimu and Mogale said their respective organisations were committed to using the upcoming Africa Aerospace and Defence exhibition at AFB Waterkloof as a showcase for the South Africa defence industry and the acquisition processes and expertise within Armscor.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:21pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS NIGERIA WONT REWRITE SOUTH AFRICAN HISTORY....THE ANC CAMPAIGN INTERNATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY SOME UNDER THE BANNER OF THE ANTI APARTHEID MOVEMENTS SPEAR HEADING THESE CAMPAIGN WERE NOT LED BY ANY NIGERIAN...HAHAHAHAHH SOUTH AFRICA WONT BOW TO YOUR MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN BASED ON AN UNFOUNDED GOSSIPS DRIVEN BY MISPLACED EGO......DURING THESE PERIOD NIGERIA WERE SUFFERING UNDER SUCCESSION COUPS AND MILITARY JUNTA...CITE ONE CAMPAIGN OUTSIDE THE AUSPICES OF THE ORGANISATION OF AFRICAN UNION WHEREBY NIGERIA WAS LEADING....HERE ARE PHOTOS OF UMKHONTO WE SIZWE IN ANGOLA NOT IN NIGERIA MUMU....

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:24pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS SOUTH AFRICANS BLED AND DIED FOR THEIR FREEDOM TRIBUTE TO ALL AFRICAN COUNTRIES WHO HELP THE STRUGGLE AND IN PARTICULAR THE SOUTHERN AFRICAN REGION AND THE OAU

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:29pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS ARE YOU FROM MAKOKO SLAM

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:33pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS SEE SOWETO BEFORE 1994

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:38pm On Aug 14, 2014
Henry120:

Wrong.

The bushmaster and cougar are the most popular MRAPs in the world.
The Casspir is the most popular MRAP in the world,in service with more than 10 nations.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:43pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS THIS IS SOWETO POST 1994 AFTER INDEPENDENCE

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PrinxArthur1(m): 2:45pm On Aug 14, 2014
Msauza:

South Africa is positively a better country than Nigeria. Of all the cities you mentioned above none of them can even reach the level of just Bloemfontein in SA. I physically know all those cities and they are very dirty and do not have infrastructure. Just rag tag cities compared to world class Cape town, Jhb, Durban, Port Elizabeth, etc. Shame on you!!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:45pm On Aug 14, 2014
SOWETO POST 1994 ALL THE ROADS ARE TARED AND ALL THE HOUSES HAVE RUNNING WATER AND 24HRS ELECTRICITY

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:46pm On Aug 14, 2014
Henry120:

All NATO troops carry a "personal radio kit".
NOPE. Reminder: Nigerian soldiers carry 1 AK-47 and 150 bullets.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:47pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS DONT COMPARE MAKOKO SLUM WITH SOWETO

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:50pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS LOOK AND WISH YOU MAY COME OUT OF YOUR RENTED ONE ROOM

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:51pm On Aug 14, 2014
POST 1994 SOWETO ROCKS

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 3:00pm On Aug 14, 2014
Henry120:

"The Nigeria Army said it has developed intelligent devices that will tackle the Boko Haram insurgency.
The Nigerian Army on Wednesday boasted that it has developed hi-tech devices capable of gathering information and intelligence to tackle the Boko Haram insurgency and other acts of terrorism across the country.

The General Officer Commanding, 2 Div., Ibadan, Ahmed Tijani, made the disclosure at a lecture held at the Army formations headquarters in Ibadan.
Mr. Tijani, a Major General, said the sophisticated devices, in form of balloons, were unveiled in 2012.

According to Mr. Tijani, the technology has been upgraded and has a 84 kilometer launch into space.
The Guest Speaker, Brigadier General Nwokoro Ijioma, spoke on the theme, “Transforming the army into a force better able to meet contemporary challenges”.
He said the balloons would be deplored to the hotbeds of terrorism attacks in the country.
. Read-->:Air-land integration, or ALI, is a proven force multiplier, enhancing operational commanders' situational awareness, speeding up the decision-making cycle and key to seizing and maintaining the initiative in chaotic, complex, uncertain and hostile environments.itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/news/item_id-35854/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 3:04pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS SINCE 1994 SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT HAS PROVIDED 2 MILLION LOW COST HOUSES FOR FREE TO THE UNEMPLOYED. THESE HOUSES HAVE ELECTRICITY AND RUNNING WATER.....THEY ARE CALLED RDP HOUSES IN SOUTH AFRICA

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 3:06pm On Aug 14, 2014
@AUGUSTUS THESE HOUSES ARE FOR THE POOR AND UNEMPLOYED FOR FREE

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