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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:18pm On May 08, 2015 |
Henry120:NAf has 3 pilots for 11 F-7s, so which do you think is worst SAAF or NAF? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:28pm On May 08, 2015 |
Henry120:Powerplant: 2 × Turbomeca Makila 1K2 turboshafts, 1,420 kW (1,904 shp) each Empty Weight : 5,910kg (13,029lb) Max Take-off Weight : 8,750kg (19,290lb) Rooivalk Cruise speed: 278Km/h Rooivalk service ceiling: 6100m Rooivalk Hover HIGE/HOGE: 5547m/5029m Rooivalk Range : 1335km Armament: •8 or 16 Anti-tank Mokopa (SAL) missiles •4 x Air-to-air Mistral missiles •38 or 76 x 70 mm Unguided rockets •20 mm F2 High-speed dual feed cannon, carrying 750 rounds So how does the T-129 outclass the Rooivalk? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:30pm On May 08, 2015 |
agaugust:It only has 3 barrels village idi0t! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:34pm On May 08, 2015 |
Henry120:Remember when 1 SAN sub sunk an entire Nato fleet? Just imagine what it would do to the NN 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:42pm On May 08, 2015 |
Henry120:And by state of the art, you mean 60 year old rust buckets! This are real warships mate:
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 11:56pm On May 08, 2015 |
ukemeramat: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:23am On May 09, 2015 |
xwolverine:Sensors, computers and softwares can easily be upgraded. Let's talk about flying characteristics and hardware. Hellfire: 8km. Seeker: Modular. Mokopa: 10km. Seeker: Modular. Mokopa > Rooivalk: In service, operational and combat tested. T-129: Limited service and untested. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:25am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120:which happen everywhere? The Russians, Indians and Australians have had nastier accidents try challenge them! Dinner for submarines! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:27am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120:For free? Prove please! Nigeria could've bought OPVs with the money spent on those old cutters! Some admirals can't wait to retire to "eat his cutter money". |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:29am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120:So? The defence procurement system delivered better deals and operational required equipment. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:48am On May 09, 2015 |
jln115:Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, South Africa and NATO ships have been sunk. The only navy in sub-saharan Africa with exercise experience in nuclear vs diesel submarine drills. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:10am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120: For the umpteenth time Rooivalk was not chosen by the Turks as it used french components Turks have an embargo on the french |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by xwolverine: 4:51am On May 09, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: No it can't be upgraded, you need the technical know-how and no country would give you that for you to integrate on your platform and compete with them for potential buyers. Secondly T-129 is based on the well tested Mangusta. So, your point on untested is baseless. Thirdly, you don't have Mokopa in service, hence no proven use. unlike the Hellfire used almost weekly to takeout terrorists with proven accuracy. Fourthly, your bush war relic Rooivalk having a higher service ceiling makes no difference in actual combat for an helicopter vs helicopter engagement. Reason is that most air to air missiles have a higher range than the general service ceiling of most helicopters. Fifth, you urgently need more platforms before you can even engage the NAF in an Helicopter vs helicopter warfare. SAAF: 8 or 10 AH NAF: 50 AH excluding the T129 Sixth, for the CAS to be mentioning the name of a platform in Nigeria, it means the deal is 80% certain. The Nigerian military brass are that thorough and discreet about procurements. And not only did he mention it, he spoke about the broader scope of integration, this is not some "project Biro" comedy show. **no offence 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by xwolverine: 5:15am On May 09, 2015 |
Apache AH-64: 4 hard points Rooivalk: 6 hard points Does that make the Rooivalk better? Hell no 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:08am On May 09, 2015 |
xwolverine:The Rooivalk has been better than the Apache since day one! Only sensors, avionics and computers make the Apache better! But as a hardware it doesn't match the South African bird! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:33am On May 09, 2015 |
xwolverine: Yeah, MILDAR is an advantage - no denying that. Mokopa is better than the AGM-114 - more penetration, longer range and is significantly faster (530m/s v the AGM-114's 450m/s) Both Mokopa and AGM-114 use the same seeker Mokopa is in service
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:33am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120: The one that sank an entire NATO task force? You should be bothered. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:34am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120: Nigerian navy got an 50 year old cutter Because it is worthless. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:39am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120: Ancient source, disprove many times. 52 Hawks air-crew (more than 2 per plane) and 18 Gripen aircrew (14 Gripen operational), 22 000 flight hours budgeted for, Submarines are currently extensively used with multiple operations having been conducted this year (3 Major international operations) and with more next year Its not 2012 anymore buddy. Anyway - here is the status of your fleet!! 90% of your fleet has been on "the hard" for allmost a decade!! Your FLAGSHIP has not put to sea in oer 5 years!! Your navy is a paper tiger!! Pathetic coast gaurd NOP = NON OPERATIONAL
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:44am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120: 14 Gripen operational = 53% operational status Last Gripen delivered in 2011/2012 Gripen is not yet full operational - weapons system intergration is ongoing. 14 Gripen is enough to destroy any airforce in the region. Why waste money rushing to put them all in service? We can afford to take our time and do it properly. You have less than 11 F-7's... that meets your operational requirements no? The submarines sunk an entire NATO task force and constantly are involved in high-intensity training operations with the likes of Germany, India, Brazil, France and the United States. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:45am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120: Outdated and incomplete information Gripen flew over 800 hours in 2011/2012 22 000 flight hours budgeted for last year alone and 18 000 flown. SAAF is in a condition you could only dream of. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:26am On May 09, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: What companies ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:29am On May 09, 2015 |
patches689: R3tard does are duds. You have no mopoka in service. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:19am On May 09, 2015 |
Henry120: Who says they are duds? Why would the SANDF show off equipment it does not have? You allways want pictures - now you have them. 100% indisputable proof that the SAAF has the Mokopa |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:02pm On May 09, 2015 |
hahahaha - armata is sooo sh1t One in the IFV configuration breaks down during victory parade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZN5MostQgQ Anothers transmission spazzes out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Inow4OLItI Another T-14 breaks down (also during the parade) and the Russians dont have an engineering vehical that can actually tow it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJzuo2TsfM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDCyRT7Luo See Henry we fvcking told you - wait until more information is available before proclaiming it "the best tank in the world" So far it has been in the public eye for just one day and allready we see that it has an unreliable engine, some form of transmission issues and its powerplant as a whole is insufficient for the vehical. Yet again - like when you accused SAN of shooting at fishermen - you have egg on your face |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:09pm On May 09, 2015 |
patches689: Additionally, Jibrin said, six NN ships including NNS Ayam, Barama, Brass, Ekun, Ogue and Yola are currently undergoing refit at the NN Dockyard, Lagos. The Naval Chief expressed Navy's confident that its local refit efforts will contribute to NN capacity to patrol the nation's vast maritime environment. "It is worth mentioning that the Nigerian Navy has just signed an agreement with PRIVINVEST, a ship building company in the United Arab Emirates to come to Nigeria and partner with us, so that we can upgrade the Naval Dockyard Lagos in order to begin local construction of capital ships which will meet international standard", he disclosed Nigerian navy corvette at Exercise African winds 2013
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:19pm On May 09, 2015 |
patches689: Did your poorly trained men not mortar that poor lady? T-14 breaking down....... so? It is still the best MBT produced yet. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 8:05pm On May 09, 2015 |
patches689:yeah. in service as a dud on display - what do you want to shoot with a dud? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:09pm On May 09, 2015 |
stillchris:dont tell me you dont know that the mokopa missile is a modernized guinea fowl hunting projectile....surely you can shoot down a few guinea fowls with the antiquated dud. 1 Like |
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