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What The Bible Says About Tithing by gabman700: 11:13am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Good morning all, It is with gladness I write this in response to the ongoing controversy about the issue of tithing. To shed more light and to put this matter to rest (if totally), I have taken time to create this topic. First, we need to ask some salient questions raging and bring about this arguments. Now the questions: 1). What is the origin of tithing? 1). Is it biblical to pay tithe in our churches? 2). What are tithes meant for? 3). Is paying tithe a MUST for Christians 4). Did JESUS encourage Tithing? I will try my best to answer each of this questions backing them with relevant scriptural verses. To start with, the origin of tithes starts from Gen 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 14:19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. That is the first place tithe was ever paid in the Bible. Tithing is as old the book of Genesis in the Bible. Abraham was not mandated to pay the tithe. It was a voluntary act. Fast forward to Moses Era, where the commandments came to God's people through Moses, Leviticus 27:30--And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD's: it is holy unto the LORD. 27:31 And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof. Infact, according to the verse, once a person MISSES his tithe for a period and he wants to pay back he will have to pay 15% and NOT 10% again... That is the commandment. WHAT ARE TITHES FOR? Amongst the 12 tribes of Isreal, the Levites are the only tribe that are not entitled to any inheritance. All other tribes have lands and possessions shared to them except the levites. Deutronomy 10:9 Wherefore Levi hath no part nor inheritance with his brethren; the Lord is his inheritance, according as the Lord thy God promised him. KJV Joshua 13:33, Joshua 14:3 Because of the above, the commandments came that the tithe should be brought to God's house so there can be food for God's people, the levites. Number 18:24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance. Number 18:26 Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe. Again from Num 18:26, levites are meant to pay tithe of whatever they collect from the people... So to whom does the tithes of the levites? It goes to Aaron the chief priest... So amongst the levites is the Supreme head, Aaron the chief priest who is entitled to their tithes... Now here comes the section of the Bible causing this recent controversy... Deutronomy 14: 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. This statement is clear... "Be sure to set a tenth of your income yearly... And eat of it, you and your family...." This is way different from the tithe of your proceeds monthly or immediately after harvest... Infact, verse 28 talks about setting a tenth of your income every 3 years. Deutronomy 14:28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied,and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. So in summary, a tithe of your proceeds after your harvest or income should be brought to the Levites. Also, at the end of the year, you are meant to set a tithe of your yearly proceed and eat of it, you and your family. Also, you should set a tithe of your proceeds triennially and eat with less privileged, with the widow and also with the levites... Amos 4:4 Deuteronomy 26:12 When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled... THE PRESENT DAY In the present day, the levites are the clergy men who take pride in devoting their time and resources to serving God and interceding for God's people... They are the pastors, reverends etc in your churches... Infact some churches have full time pastors who do not do any work asides the ministry... Those are the people that the proceeds of tithes paid should be used on. It is there entitlement, according to God's word. The question now is does the new testament talk about tithing? Luke 11: 42 “Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone. This shows that although JESUS condemns the Pharisees' habit of neglecting justice and love of God, he also said they should practice loving and God and ensuring justice WITHOUT ignoring the habit of paying tithe... So JESUS supports tithes and its very biblical just as he supports paying tax... Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." BUT IS PAYING TITHE A MUST? In Malachi 3:7-9 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return? Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. KJV Verse 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. 2 Corinthian 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver So paying tithe is every believers choice...And most importantly it attracts Gods blessing.... So in summary, Paying tithe is biblical and it attracts Gods blessing.Please do not be misled, The Scriptures is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. 2 Timothy 3:16 God's Grace continually be with you. (Amen) Note Please: I am not a pastor, and this is not in defense to pastor living flamboyant lifestyles as all will stand before God on the day of Judgement. 4 Likes |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by flowmama: 11:19am On Nov 11, 2017 |
Good analysis.if those pastors could talk with bible verses like this, daddyfreezer will nt still be running his mouth 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by liveforGod: 11:23am On Nov 11, 2017 |
flowmama: I tell you. The bible is thorough and stands. tnx Op |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by Nobody: 11:51am On Nov 11, 2017 |
God Bless you for this post, Op. You cleared the air. |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 12:08pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
The origin of tithing from Abraham is not a normative one, Abraham didn't pay tithe from his income, he paid from the proceed of the war he went for to rescue lot. The tithing Abraham gave was once and it wasn't a law and compulsory act, if we should tithe like Abraham then it shouldn't be compulsorily every month and not from our income, it should be a once in a while thing without specific time frame and it should be from the proceed of a war. Tithing of income became in law in Deuteronomy, that's the origin of "tithing of yearly income" and this tithe of income must be giving to a levite, Malachi 2 emphasized the curses placed on anybody who defiles this agreement with the levite. Jesus never encouraged paying of tithe, he classified it as an unimportant thing in Mathew 23:23 and even start with "woe" unto them who pay it without doing the most important things. After the death of Jesus, certain things that were comprised in the law of Moses were dropped; things like burnt offering, leaving of long beards and hair and tithing, no record of anybody doing this after the death of Jesus. No one except levites should collect tithe, read Malachi 2 vs 1-19 My issue with modern day tithing is that, it is contrary to what was prescribed by the Bible, tithing in the bible was not monthly, even at at, tithing was dropped in the early church after the death of Jesus 6 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 12:17pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
And again, no Christian is a levite. If you are a Christian then you must be from the tribe of Judah by Faith, because Jesus is from the tribe from Judah not from the tribe of Levi. Jesus understood this hence never collected tithe, the clergymen cannot be like Jesus who was from the tribe of Judah and at the same time from the tribe of Levi because they want to collect tithe. No Christian is a levite both by origin or by Faith, you have to be from the tribe of Judah by faith as a Christian. To many flaws in your post 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by greatermax77(m): 12:54pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Christ came to deliver us from the law, Romans7 v 6; But now we are delivered fr the law, that being dead wherein, we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. Christianity begins with Christ Jesus. Christian should stop mouldling issues. Tithing is not a compulsory for any christian. Matthew23v23; woe unto you, scribes & pharisees hypocrites! for u pay tithe of mint & anise & cummin & have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment,mercy & faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Christ preachings on earth is done in parables for the wise to read, listen & understands. Any Christian who says if he or she did not pay tithe that things will not work for him or her still condems himself to the law Christ set us free from the law & gave us a new life in him Romans 8 v 1; There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in christ jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit. Any pastor that empasis much on tithe is a fraud. Pastors in Nigeria have been led in to matrialism with procced of tithes. Satan has put confusion in the church via matrialism One can not serve God & mammon at the same time |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by gabman700: 2:18pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
betterABIAstate: For clarity purpose I will address the points per paragraph. Abraham was not the only person who paid tithe in the Bible. He just happened to be the first person recorded to have paid it in the Bible. Also, paying tithe and offering is never compulsory in churches (to the best of my knowledge). Infact apostle Paul stated it in 2 Corinthian 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver So it's a matter choice. Paragraph 2, tithing of yearly income should be for you and your family with God's children. That is what Deutronomy 14 says. It's about you enjoying the fruits of your labour in God's house after the calendar year. Tithes from proceeds of your harvest (income) is meant for the levites solely. Paragraph 3, no. He encouraged paying of tithe. What he spoke against was paying it but not have the love of God and perverting Justice. Please read Mathew 23:23 Carefully again. Paragraph 4, No record of people keeping beards does not mean the Bible frowns at people keeping beards. The apostles had more pressing issues that keeping hair. Christians were persecuted everywhere. The apostles concentred on letters (epistles) to the new set of believers, hence the several epistles of Paul to the colossians etc. Malachi 2 does not state anything about collecting tithe. It spoke about the behaviors of the priests and devorce which God is against. Tithing should be done once your earn or after your harvest. Even in modern day church, some market women pay tithe every week. This is just My summary. Thank you and God bless. 2 Likes |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 2:27pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
gabman700:the only agreement God had with the levite is collecting the tithe from other tribes of isreal Sir, don't cherrypick the Bible, as far its tithe, only a levite shuod collect it
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Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 2:30pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Gabman700, don't defile this agreement, else the curses of Malachi 2 Will be yours, be careful
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Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by butterfly777(m): 2:55pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
What about the First Fruit doctrine that churches have now started promoting. I think that is alsop how tithing entered the modern day churches. Many of the old churches did no preach tithing. Even many pentecostal churches did not preach tithing when they started. Lets keep an open mind sha. |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by gabman700: 3:11pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
betterABIAstate: Hello sir, you are missing the point... Do you understand why the apostles and early disciples were thoroughly persecuted and killed? They preached the gospel to the gentiles , ate and dined with them, even went to the temple with the gentiles. Act 21 Acts 21:28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place. The notion is that we the gentiles have been made partakers of the promise. We share and serve the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. So if we be partakers of the promises and blessings of the father, shall we then be denied the blessing of tithing in Malachi 3? 1 Peter 2:9 says we are a royal priesthood,a holy nation, God's special possession... Thats why apostles Paul wrote to the Corinthians (gentiles), in 2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver We are partakers of the promise. And we serve the same living God who is the same yesterday, today and forever... Hebrews 13:8. And concerning the curse you made mention of, I have never heard nor seen anybody who gives to God and he is cursed in return sir.... 2 Likes |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 3:28pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
gabman700:your story is too long and LAck direction. The tithing rule in the bible is clear, very clear; Tithing is for levite according to law, the law didn't change anywhere after Deuteronomy, if you defile the law Malachi2 awaits you. Jesus didn't practise tithing, it wasn't in the bible, unless you want to add to the bible, Christians are to live the life and by teaching of Jesus, Jesus never taught about tithing. Tithe is not a monthly thing even according to the law Stop painting this clear instruction |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by gabman700: 3:47pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
betterABIAstate: Yet again, I will correct your impressions on Jesus tithing... Jesus was a jew by birth. Although the Bible did not record the happenings between Jesus's 12 years and 30 years of age. Those were his silent years. But traditions has it that he was a Carpenter. As so he was entitled to pay tithe. As a son of God and lover of God's law, he must have paid tithe for a fact. So erase the mentally that Jesus did not pay tithe. That information was not very important for the Bible not to have captured it. But one thing the Bible recorded was that he was always going to the temple to teach, right from the age of 12. Yes. Tithe is not only meant to be monthly, it's could be an everyday thing based on your income pattern. Also, contributions was made by the early churches and sent to the apostles. What do you call that?is the contribution biblical in that contest. 1 Corinthians 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. KJV. 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 5:14pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
gabman700:1 Corinthians 16:2 is not tithe, it could be below 10% or even 10% according to the passage and that's the way of giving I think churches should adopt, not tithing Tithe is not Christianity |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by Ovamboland(m): 5:18pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
gabman700: Hmmmm. ...Jesus paid tithe as a carpenter. ...can you show us how a carpenter paid tithe according to Mosaic Law. Or a fisherman, blacksmith, soldier etc |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:50pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
THERE IS NO LAW OF GOD BINDING US TODAY...THERE IS NO MORTAL OR FLESH THAT CAN KEEP THE HOLY LAW OF GOD.. IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE LAW, GO ON. BUT, I MUST TELL YOU THAT YOU WILL ONLY END UP WITH CURSES, AND NOT BLESSINGS. THE SCRIPTURE SAYS IF YOU ARE GUILTY OF ONE OF HIS LAWS, AUTHOMATICALLY YOU ARE GUILTY OF ALL... THERE IS NO ROOM FOR MERCY UNDER THE LAW. YOU MY FRIEND, MUST BE FAITHFUL ALL THE TIME TO GOD'S LAWS, IF HE MUST BLESS YOU. |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by Diamondville(f): 6:52pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
bloodofthelamb:the law has not been abolished |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:12pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Diamondville: THE LAW IS STILL ACTIVE, BUT LEFT TO THE LAW, WE WILL ALL PERISH... THE LAW THE DEMANDS ABSOLUTE PERFECTION... NO ROOM FOR MISTAKES, AND NOTHING SHORT OF PERFECTION WILL DO. GOD HIS WISDOM MADE ANOTHER WAY THROUGH CHRIST JESUS, SO WE MIGHT BE ACCEPTED BY HIM, NOT THROUGH HIS LAW BUT THROUGH HIS SON, CHRIST JESUS THE BLESSED! |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 7:15pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Diamondville:are u keeping it? Is your pastor keeping the part that said he should not barb his beards and hair? Is your pastor collecting burnt offering? |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by Diamondville(f): 7:19pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
betterABIAstate:you don't know what you're even saying, can you use any bible verse to prove that the law has been abolised? |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by Diamondville(f): 7:21pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
bloodofthelamb:exactly so we're not only under the era of grace but also of law |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 7:27pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Diamondville:I can use a bible passage to prove that we don't live by the law. |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by liveforGod: 7:32pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
betterABIAstate: The law still exists...Infact Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. The law still stands and the greatest is to Mathew 7:12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.. To avoid digressing from issues...Abraham paid tithe even before the law of Moses came... Even Jesus supported it in Luke 11:42 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by Diamondville(f): 7:32pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
betterABIAstate:i thought you said it has been abolished na |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 7:36pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Diamondville:I didn't say it has been abolished but Jesus knows we can't keep it hence he came to die to bring forth grace No one can keep the laws of moses, not even your G.O |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 7:37pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
liveforGod:are you keeping it? |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by betterABIAstate: 7:38pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
liveforGod:are you keeping it? No one said it has been abolished, but as a Christian, you don't live by the law, you live BG grace. Even the current form of tithing which is monthly is contrary to the laws of Moses in Deuteronomy |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by Saverin: 7:41pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Do you mind reading Deuteronomy 14:23-29? #freethesheeple |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by liveforGod: 7:42pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
betterABIAstate: How do you mean no one can keep it? I really do not know where you are getting your facts from...Do you know that it is some people's work even to the present day to keep it. My friend, some people are still keeping the laws of moses. 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:44pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
Diamondville: BRO, IS A CHOICE. THE LORD HAS SET BEFORE US DEATH AND LIFE, LAW AND JESUS{GRACE}... LET'S CHOOSE JESUS{GRACE} THAT WE MAY LIVE AND BE BLESSED.... FOR, THERE IS NO LIFE IN THE LAW. NO RIGHTEOUSNESS IN THE LAW.. WE ARE CALLED TO LIVE BY GRACE AND BY GRACE ALONE. |
Re: What The Bible Says About Tithing by liveforGod: 7:48pm On Nov 11, 2017 |
betterABIAstate: Yes you are right. We are not under the law but Grace. Thats why laws dictating; do not eat swine, this food or that does not apply to us christains. We serve the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob. Abraham , father of faith (whose God i serve), paid tithe and he was blessed greatly thats why i pay my tithe. 1 Like |
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