Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 9:14pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
RedGold2017: The reason why Nigeria is a failed state is right here on this thread, it's "THE PEOPLE " . We blame the government often, but the people are the government. I shake my head for the next nigerian generation, most Nigerians need major re-orientation. For some odd reason Nigerians think it's easy overseas, I shake my head. Let me tell you a fact, if you can't make anything out of yourself in Nigeria, you will NEVER do better abroad either. Until you've worked and struggled abroad with no moral support and you suffer from bouts of depression, you will NEVER understand. Your average American believes in their country and most have stayed to make it what it is. If they bailed at any sign of challenges, you will not be dying to cross over. How i wish the American government can just grant the wishes of some of you so you can go and experience life or If there wasn't any option to relocate maybe you all would make something of yourselves. OP, in life strive to find yourself wherever you are, by all means do not be an illegal alien in any country, it never really ends well. It's either you find a way to legalize or start mapping out your plan to come to Nigeria. 30k is about 10mill , you can buy treasury bills. Take the almost 2mill upfront, find someone to room with on the island, pay a years rent with half. And start exploring opportunities. It's not a must you should wear suit and tie and scavenge the whole city for employment. Try looking for areas of improvement where you can provide service. Even in today's America, if you want to make it big you have to think of ingenious ideas and areas that haven't been tapped into. Same applies anywhere in the world if you don't want to remain complacent with mediocrity. Re-orientate yourself from all these kiddos and oldies that aspire to the champagne lifestyle, you can survive on what you have till something works out. Ignore all these ones whose role models are politicians, scammers and what not, do not despise the power of good old hard work and dedication, it still goes a long way. Problem with Nigerians is everyone wants to arrive quickly, someone without employment for 10yrs wants to be a boss in 1 month, that's why most of them are mostly unemployable. Always envious of the person with a car/ better life when they don't know their story or how much they worked to get it. Your average American starts working at McDonald's or the mall.at age 16 to grasp the concept of earning a living, life just doesn't happen, you work you way through it.
My point? it all boils down to you, stay illegally in the US and God help you Trump and his people come after you, you will find yourself at the back of MMA with only a knapsack to your name. Be wise. Just the truth bro. Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by chronique(m): 9:15pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
@ OP: all my life, I have never been a fan of traveling out of Nigeria to go and start a new life but with the current situation of what I'm seeing here, I might be forced to take that decision in 2019 if we make the mistake of electing another idiot into power. Nigeria is a perfect example of what a nation should never be like. There is a place of patriotism, and there is a place of reality. No doubt, there are people making it in Nigeria but then, you have to ask "at what cost "? At the cost of your sanity? You are probably used to a sane environment where practically everything works well. Coming to Nigeria, expect a total opposite of what you are currently enjoying... I'm yet to find something that one can easily get in Nigeria without having to cut corners. There are businesses that you have to do and you would have to settle a lot of insiders before it flies. Sometimes, it eats into your profit so much and you end up not really getting what you want. Look, I don't want to scare you but your $30,000 might not be able to get you through what you have planned down. You'd have to learn the ropes of how to do business in Nigeria and truthfully, be prepared for the worse. Apart from the cost of living, Nigeria is not totally a perfect place to live if you want your sanity. Like I said earlier on, the current government is a disaster and whoever we elect in 2019 would determine a lot. If we elect another idiot in 2019, I'd start packing my things and find my square root cause the country is deteriorating daily. Before you relocate back fully, think things through. There are almost no jobs and doing business here, is quite expensive and almost frustrating. Only the strong can survive. If you don't have that strong survival, rugged and determined spirit, pls stay where you are. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:17pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
chronique: @ OP: all my life, I have never been a fan of traveling out of Nigeria to go and start a new life but with the current situation of what I'm seeing here, I might be forced to take that decision in 2019 if we make the mistake of electing another idiot into power. Nigeria is a perfect example of what a nation should never be like. There is a place of patriotism, and there is a place of reality. No doubt, there are people making it in Nigeria but then, you have to ask "at what cost "? At the cost of your sanity? You are probably used to a sane environment where practically everything works well. Coming to Nigeria, expect a total opposite of what you are currently enjoying... I'm yet to find something that one can easily get in Nigeria without having to cut corners. There are businesses that you have to do and you would have to settle a lot of insiders before it flies. Sometimes, it eats into your profit so much and you end up not really getting what you want. Look, I don't want to scare you but your $30,000 might not be able to get you through what you have planned down. You'd have to learn the ropes of how to do business in Nigeria and truthfully, be prepared for the worse. Apart from the cost of living, Nigeria is not totally a perfect place to live if you want your sanity. Like I said earlier on, the current government is a disaster and whoever we elect in 2019 would determine a lot. If we elect another idiot in 2019, I'd start packing my things and find my square root cause the country is deteriorating daily. Before you relocate back fully, think things through. There are almost no jobs and doing business here, is quite expensive and almost frustrating. Only the strong can survive. If you don't have that strong survival, rugged and determined spirit, pls stay where you are. Cc: Pidgin2, Mrphysics and redgold I guess this Op too is lazy and hardly educated too right? I leave you to your conscience. 1 Like |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by levi2(m): 9:17pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
[b]abbij: Hello Bluflyboy.
My husband and I were in your situation roughly 2 years ago..He is Nigerian with a complicated Status in the US, I am British/Nigeria with no complicated status, 4 kids with American and British status. Because of the hubby facing removals from the USA, we had the option of him either returning to Nigeria and me filing for the UK Sposal paperwork for him and we can all go to the UK or we all should go to Nigeria. We decided to move to Nigeria instead...the kids get to be close to family and lear the culture....
Saved roughly about $75k, Paid off our 2 cars, Rented a house in Abuja for 2 years, paid children school fees also for 2 years., Shipped the 2 cars to Nigeria, I found a Country Manager Job in Nigeria etc...Hubby will find an IT contract when we arrive..etc
Then Dec 31st 2014 we made our move feeling preapred etc. I dont really want to into all numerous challanges we had including insecurity, bad health care, being stolen from , hubby kidnapped by SARs, I can go on....But just to let you know within 2 years, considering we are relatively very low key people our $75k dwindled down as after first 6 months, the company i worked for stopped paying salaries. Hubby had a very difficult time finding a paid employment and decided to start his own IT firm..which we did but got stolen from most of the time by employees.
This forced the very difficult decision to abandon Nigeria again this time for the UK where I and the kids are citizens and filed Spousal Visa for hubby. So we finally moved back in to the UK this summer with all things now going well, looking back at the Nigeria experience without being negative, It was one of the worst decisions we made...unless you are willing to abandon your ethics and join the status quo...you are in for a very rough time.
it is also quite expensive to maintain a decent lifestyle in Nigeria as a family as well. So your $30k will not go as far as you think...so my suggestion is to put Nigeria on a back burner for now and think of other scenarios that might work better for you but if Nigeria is only the option,then my friend, you need to have a plan and strategise and knowing all your strategies might not work but be willing to tough the ride...I dont care what all your friends say, when the rubber hits the road as we say..you will find yourself alone very quickly.
Good luck.
[/b]Best Advice I have read.. Thank you 1 Like |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Agbaletu: 9:18pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
babaskool:
Dear diasporan, firstly, I would like to thank you for your passion for Nigeria, I decided to move back to nigeria a year ago too after 7 years in the Uk. So I understand your anxiety in all ramifications. Secondly ignore all the negative comments you see on this thread, only people who have left nigeria for years and see there is hardly anything a developed country can offer, only a developing country can provide the means by which ones investment can grow without endless Taxes,bills, social security contributions, medical insurance e.t.c
You have done well for yourself by saving up to 30k to invest in Nigeria and trust me with the right planning you would not go wrong, there are people living in Lagos who have the equivalent of 30k dollars in naira and they are not in politics or ever travelled to the US so how come they have 30k dollars in thier account.
So please ignore anyone who discrouages from coming back to invest in a country that would give you a Massive yield for your investment. It's better to be a king in your country than a mouse in someone else.
So back to the information you really need, your safe bet in Nigeria right now which can generate up to 50% yield is these 3 things : 1.education 2. Real estate 3. Petrol/filling station ...your capital of 30 k dollars is more than enough to do this ...
So like I said above in less than a year your business would have paid back it's 30k investment, the only serious setbacks of doing business in Nigeria is finding the right type of people to get you started not the cost of fuel or police brutality or lack of electricity or any of the things you see on twitter or cnn...
The full scenario of Nigeria is not what you see online, there are incredible opportunities here you would never see online cos it's very hard to describe the opportunities online to anyone ... I don't think I can say everything on here since I moved back to Nigeria but first things first you would need to incorporate a Nigerian company. I am a Nigerian lawyer so I can help you with that as fast as you can say the word a certificate of incorporation. Thereafter we would have to help you with a domicillary account so your money can be moved across continents with ease .. In addition I could also help you with a certificate of capital importation ( this certficate allows you to transfer your current at the Cbn rate )
After this then your business or company is ready for any actual real investment possible ...also if you do not mind I have 3 detailed business proposals on the 3 ideal business I listed above which is 1. Building a small scale school (education ) 2 . Real estate (buying land or a building the finished product at a high margin house flipping it's called or 3. A petrol / filling station ( petrol stations in Nigeria make up to 400,000 naira in a day ( I have statistics to back this up ) so imagine building a petrol station with 30k dollars and making up to 1k dollars in sales in a day ...
In less than a month after you start operating you would thank God for leaving the US and coming to invest in Nigeria and not missing out on the Nigerians on twitter or fb ...cos real business is not on twitter or fb...it's here in Nigeria in particular when you get the right type of people to help you ....
This post is too long so pls contact so I can send the business proposals I have for you for free firstly then after I can advice you on the company matters so you can find out if these things I say are lies or not .... Yours sincerely Akinola eluyefa esq
30k is just a little coins above 10MN. Are you telling us that 10MN can build a fuel station? It is 30k US dollar bros! 2 Likes |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:20pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
We are talking about a failed state here: Nigeria.
Nigeria is the World's biggest sh!thole and a complete flop and some gumsmucks are telling the youths of this country to bear all that nonsense?
Pidgin2, come and spew more of your bullsh!t. |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:22pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Wizard999: see you nah...so, you are trying to tell us that you are living illegally in Canada. Is that correct? If so, shame on you!! I wonder what you have been telling your people back home.. EFULEFU(prodigal son)!. Wait nah cos I burst ur Bubble say U dey live in SENEGAL you dey Vex? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) , where did my location say Canada??Plz change your IGBO supplier |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:22pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Agbaletu:
30k is just a little coins above 10MN. Are you telling us that 10MN can build a fuel station? It is 30k US dollar bros! Are you minding that one? He just wants to hustle the Op jaree ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 1 Like |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:22pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Prinzyy: lol.. U need to check something indeed ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) ![cool](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cool.png) 1 Like |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:22pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
mrphysics:
I work in Nigeria, I clearly stated it that I earn in naira and in dollars I know what you do, the platform is not in Nigeria still thats what Im on about. |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:23pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Alcatraz005:
He is claiming to be a spy sent to monitor rival agencies' posts on nairaland. What utter bunkum! He is even talking about not wanting to blow his cover. We are saying naija no be am and he is saying nonsense. I would like to work as a troll sha and earn dollars to get out of this sh!thole, Nigeria! ahahah that Agbor Igbo is real afterall ahahaha |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:24pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
erico2k2:
ahahah that Agbor Igbo is real afterall ahahaha Lol. you can say that again. |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by aleniboro(m): 9:26pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Ordinarily, a poor man is someone who can not get money except he works and get paid no matter the amount even if he works in Oil Company. While a rich man is the one that while not working, his money works and bring him returns. That is why it is possible for one to be in USA and work for even 50 years and will not be able to cope when he comes back! Remember some people can not leave Nigeria for a week without losing money in their businesses. Imagine someone claimed to have come to Nigeria with 75000$ and squandered it within months living fake life to impress people in order to show they have arrived! My advice to OP. There are opportunities in Nigeria but people don't have money to tap into it. Get more savings and look at the area where you can invest and manage comfortably and make your money to work for you. I have a friend that came from USA in 2014 with some Trailers' double axle with his savings. Now he has over 300 in his store at Bodija and each costs 1.2m naira. It only takes 25million to become a owner of Microfinance Bank! To be a Nigerian brewery distributor is less than 25million, Dangote Distributor is less than 10 million, you wont be avle to tell our IBO boys selling building materials that you are from USA when you come across their accounts. Think in this direction but you need more savings! 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 9:29pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Alcatraz005:
We go port soonest. No mind all these people wey dey blow grammar say make we stay naija. Most people on this thread have stayed in naija all their life and seen that there is no future here. We are ready to go abroad and work hard inspite of the racism. At least we know we would live a more dignified life than the one we live here. What some the posters like pidgin2, Mrphysics and redgold are saying is that all of us are jobless and lazy in Nigeria which is largely baseless. They are obviously privileged people who have found where to suck in Nigeria. For the rest of us, the world is waiting for us to explore and prosper. Goodluck with Tinubu, Saraki and the Buharis of this world. Lets see if they would allow you enjoy your Nigeria. Even the smallest thing in the west: power, Nigeria cant generate 5,000 MW and some nitwits want us to continue trusting criminals whose children are in this same abroad they are castigating. Thank you very much but No thanks! We aint trusting in this sh!thole country no more! You are making mistake bro. I hardly tell people that I work because I believe in the street and I have been a street hustler. I am working and my salary is good. Lol, atleast above 100k. But the point is, I am a freelancer and I have always been. I stopped blaming the government when I read on fiverr forum how the problem of the world seems to be the same and only the lazy ones keep blaming and depending on the government. We sell caterpillar parts and we have the ones we hire for road construction, so I have been dirty monitoring projects etc and I can tell you that I have joined in making transactions outside Nigeria. Most of the caterpillar parts we sell are imported and I know what it means to trade in dollar and that of Naira. On fiverr, people hardly sell as a Nigerian but I do and I make sales more than most Nigerian-US sellers. The other day in fiverr forum, someone came claiming that Nigerians are scammers, I spoke up and the thread was deleted. Everyday, US citizens seek for a way to earn money on Amazon, only few Nigerians do that. The business section is one of the sections of nairaland with less visitors, you see most of them in politics and romance section. Bro, if you believe Nigeria is a hard place, it will be for you and if you are waiting for 2019, then you will be heart broken 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 9:29pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Pidgin2:
What skills do you have, what value can you offer in exchange for money? Well, for starters he can speak decent English and can navigate social media. |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:31pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
9jaDoc:
Well, for starters he can speak decent English and can navigate social media. Help me tell her ooo. She thinks i am very poor because i said i want to leave Nigeria. Is it by force to love a country that has failed her citizens at every turn? What do we enjoy as Nigerians. Kindly help me ask pidgin2 ooooo 1 Like |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 9:33pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
erico2k2:
I know what you do, the platform is not in Nigeria still thats what Im on about. Did you follow the post on Besiktas or Instanbul that made the front page today. The op say that the pay in Instanbul is $70 per week, which is about $280 in a month. Bros, if you are serious and smart on fiverr, you will make more than that in a month. If you think Nigeria is hell, trust me, it will remain a hell for you and you will always be frustrated in Nigeria. I don't care about the leaders, I only support whosoever is there and I have no apology for what anyone think or say about it |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:36pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
mrphysics:
You are making mistake bro. I hardly tell people that I work because I believe in the street and I have been a street hustler. I am working and my salary is good. Lol, atleast above 100k[b][/b]. But the point is, I am a freelancer and I have always been. I stopped blaming the government when I read on fiverr forum how the problem of the world seems to be the same and only the lazy ones keep blaming and depending on the government.
We sell caterpillar parts and we have the ones we hire for road construction, so I have been dirty monitoring projects etc and I can tell you that I have joined in making transactions outside Nigeria. Most of the caterpillar parts we sell are imported and I know what it means to trade in dollar and that of Naira.
On fiverr, people hardly sell as a Nigerian but I do and I make sales more than most Nigerian-US sellers. The other day in fiverr forum, someone came claiming that Nigerians are scammers, I spoke up and the thread was deleted.
Everyday, US citizens seek for a way to earn money on Amazon, only few Nigerians do that. The business section is one of the sections of nairaland with less visitors, you see most of them in politics and romance section.
Bro, if you believe Nigeria is a hard place, it will be for you and if you are waiting for 2019, then you will be heart broken Whats the difference btw U and the OP who thinks N10m nah Mega Sum? some people in 9ja Fuel bill is N100k a month 1 Like |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:36pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
mrphysics:
You are making mistake bro. I hardly tell people that I work because I believe in the street and I have been a street hustler. I am working and my salary is good. Lol, atleast above 100k. But the point is, I am a freelancer and I have always been. I stopped blaming the government when I read on fiverr forum how the problem of the world seems to be the same and only the lazy ones keep blaming and depending on the government.
We sell caterpillar parts and we have the ones we hire for road construction, so I have been dirty monitoring projects etc and I can tell you that I have joined in making transactions outside Nigeria. Most of the caterpillar parts we sell are imported and I know what it means to trade in dollar and that of Naira.
On fiverr, people hardly sell as a Nigerian but I do and I make sales more than most Nigerian-US sellers. The other day in fiverr forum, someone came claiming that Nigerians are scammers, I spoke up and the thread was deleted.
Everyday, US citizens seek for a way to earn money on Amazon, only few Nigerians do that. The business section is one of the sections of nairaland with less visitors, you see most of them in politics and romance section.
Bro, if you believe Nigeria is a hard place, it will be for you and[b][/b] if you are waiting for 2019, then you will be heart broken[b][/b] What is my business with the boldened? About all you said, i have heard you and thank you. However, what you typed up there will do little to convince the millions who have lost hope in the country. I commend you for your unwavering loyalty and patriotism. It is not very easy to still have hope in the nation. Goodbye. |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by gozman95: 9:36pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) thesicilian:
Don't you have internet access where you are in the US? Or you got your degrees and work experience from a US prison? |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 9:37pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
DeRay98:
Your telecoms experience is very needed in our telecoms industry.. Forget all these idle and frustrated bearers of evil news here. My 23yrs old nephew graduated 2 yrs from UNILAG in Systems Engineering. He served last year and last month, while serving as "Intern" in one bank he got a job in another Bank. Forget the negativity here, in recession some people are getting genuinely rich and successful. Some people's recession is other people's boom. Question is, how much is he making? Here in Libya he'd be making at least 1,500 dinas |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by edupedia: 9:37pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
madridguy: @ OP sit down for US and stop looking for what is not. Nigeria is only good for the rogues in the govt, their family member,or associate.
Still no light, no security, health sector zero.
Boko haram, fulani terrorist, militant, kidnappers, ritualist, baddo boys, army robbers to mention few are making Nigeria the most dangerous place on earth. ....plus IPOB terrorists....just a reminder... |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Mikeiron78(m): 9:38pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Moving back or being deported. You have to be honest. Nigerians are smarter than that,lol |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:38pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
mrphysics:
Did you follow the post on Besiktas or Instanbul that made the front page today. The op say that the pay in Instanbul is $70 per week, which is about $280 in a month. Bros, if you are serious and smart on fiverr, you will make more than that in a month.
If you think Nigeria is hell, trust me, it will remain a hell for you and you will always be frustrated in Nigeria. I don't care about the leaders, I only support whosoever is there and I have no apology for what anyone think or say about it ahaha OK, well like we say in warri, Slippers get size, we dey make more than two times that in a day here.But Smartness is the key, where ever U find yourself, you got to B smart if not E go B like say U follow come look wey mehn dey fire dey go! |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:38pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Myde4naija(m): 9:40pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:40pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
mrphysics:
Did you follow the post on Besiktas or Instanbul that made the front page today. The op say that the pay in Instanbul is $70 per week, which is about $280 in a month. Bros, if you are serious and smart on fiverr, you will make more than that in a month.
If you think Nigeria is hell, trust me, it will remain a hell for you and you will always be frustrated in Nigeria. I don't care about the leaders, I only support whosoever is there and I have no apology for what anyone think or say about it Enough Already! Dont insult the sensibilities of millions of Nigerian Youths. Dont rub it on their faces. We have heard about fiverr and those who are interested will partake from ANY PART OF THE WORLD. Or is it only in Nigeria that you can do fiverr? So your drivel wont stop those who want to migrate from migrating. The mistake you and pidgin are making is that you feel all Nigerian youths who want to migrate are doing so due to poverty. FYI, you are wrong! Some people just value living in stable and working societies. Capisce? 2 Likes |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by sircrabo: 9:41pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Too many negative impressions. Chaii.
Naija my country is really doomed.
Things were never soo rosy but have never been this bad. This Govt brought hardship. Period.
This is not the right time to relocate to Nigeria. Businesses are folding up, people are loosing their means of livelihood, companies downsizing.
Funny enough, most of the people here complaining and leaving negative impressions about the present state of the economy voted for this present Govt.
It's like Nigerians enjoy weeping and gnashing of teeth. We never really learn 1 Like |
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Ugosample(m): 9:41pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Alcatraz005:
Please don’t come back. I am a lawyer here in naija and I am ready to stake all to leave this hellhole. From one brother to another, DO NOT come back. We might go to war soon sef because the citizens might go against themselves seeing that we have made a mistake being together as a nation for almost 6 decades. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Agbaletu: 9:42pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
Alcatraz005:
Are you minding that one? He just wants to hustle the Op jaree I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he thought the guy wrote 300K$ which is still not enough for a standard fuel station in a good location. |