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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 4:11pm On Apr 20
budaatum:


Would you like to ban condoms and the pill since more babies were unborn because of them?

If we was like animals women would only accept a dick when her body is ready to being forth the next generation.
But as far as I know Shaytan led Eve and Adam to desire the forbidden fruit any second of any day that ends with a 'Y".
Birth control shouldn't be banned at all, taking away a formed life any second of the day at your own pleasure should not be a right.
You have previously called a baby in the womb as a 'clump of cells' or something like that.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 4:20pm On Apr 20
ijebosb:


Agree what the current situation is, but to me it is akin to having states decide if black people should vote. It's ridiculous.

I wasn't sure comparing slavery migration to abortion migration was apt. But the more I thought about it, it is. Just like slavery migration, abortion migration isn't easy if at all possible. A lot of slaves died during slavery and trying to migrate to states that were free, a lot of women will die (and have died) with preventable/treatable pregnancy issues and will die in transit to states that do allow abortion.

But, sometimes I think you talk of race/slavery issues in a very facile way.

Idiotic reasoning. Abortion should never be banned because some woman somewhere needs to get rid of the baby without any hassles of long distance travel at all?
If it's a medical reason where one or both lives are at risk, Ill give an exception. Or incest. Or rape. Plus so many other factors.
You feel for the women who cross state lines to abort.
States banning abortion in-toto are going overboard.
I know that your dementia president wants ER to provide abortion on demand services. And that no medical facility should turn away a woman seeking abortions

Pimps and paedophiles are the ones so in love with abortion for obvious reasons.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by budaatum: 8:12pm On Apr 20
basilico:

You have previously called a baby in the womb as a 'clump of cells' or something like that.

Sorry, but I refuse to respond to you when you lie.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by budaatum: 8:21pm On Apr 20
ijebosb:


Agree what the current situation is, but to me it is akin to having states decide if black people should vote. It's ridiculous.

I wasn't sure comparing slavery migration to abortion migration was apt. But the more I thought about it, it is. Just like slavery migration, abortion migration isn't easy if at all possible. A lot of slaves died during slavery and trying to migrate to states that were free, a lot of women will die (and have died) with preventable/treatable pregnancy issues and will die in transit to states that do allow abortion.

But, sometimes I think you talk of race/slavery issues in a very facile way.

I think abortion migration is a lot easier than running away as a slave. The Underground Railroad for abortions is way more established than that for slavery was. If you ran as a slave, you'd have been accused of stealing your master's property, and if you got caught running away from your slave master you'd have been whipped or Kunta Kinted (have you leg cut off). While the worse they can do to a run away abortionist is jail the poor woman, which, to be honest, I would love to see done if just for the uproar it would cause.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by LordReed(m): 10:26pm On Apr 20
basilico:


Must be a raging liberal.

Why are you denying your fellow conspiracy theorist na.

This is where you people and lying will lead some people.

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 1:34am On Apr 21
budaatum:


Sorry, but I refuse to respond to you when you lie.

Ive brought the receipts. A foetus is just a thing to you.

Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 10:08am On Apr 21
LordReed:


Why are you denying your fellow conspiracy theorist na.

This is where you people and lying will lead some people.

I will never tire trying to get you out the leftist bubble enclosing you.
The guy Azzarallo has died. This was taken off his Instagram.

What?? Don’t f—king resist Donald Trump! REJECT Donald Trump. Laugh at the rotten farce of an idea of Donald Trump having any power over you. F—kin duh,” Azzarallo wrote.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by budaatum: 10:16am On Apr 21
basilico:


Ive brought the receipts. A foetus is just a thing to you.

You lying dishonest toerag! Where does what you posted equate to "called a baby in the womb as a 'clump of cells' or something like that"?
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by LordReed(m): 11:01am On Apr 21
basilico:


I will never tire trying to get you out the leftist bubble enclosing you.
The guy Azzarallo has died. This was taken off his Instagram.

What?? Don’t f—king resist Donald Trump! REJECT Donald Trump. Laugh at the rotten farce of an idea of Donald Trump having any power over you. F—kin duh,” Azzarallo wrote.

Like he can be both things. He still was a conspiracy theorist much like you. Did you see the picture of him holding up a sign that Joe Biden and Donald Trump are working hand in hand? That's where you people's lies are going to land some people, mental illness or harmful actions.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by ijebosb: 6:48pm On Apr 21
I think this is always worth pointing out.

Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 7:04pm On Apr 21
ijebosb:
I think this is always worth pointing out.


Lies.
Obama won almost double the counties JB won, what was the gdp of obama counties won %.
Joe Biden doesn't know the names of thr counties he won .

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 7:20pm On Apr 21
LordReed:


Like he can be both things. He still was a conspiracy theorist much like you. Did you see the picture of him holding up a sign that Joe Biden and Donald Trump are working hand in hand? That's where you people's lies are going to land some people, mental illness or harmful actions.

Trying so hard schillng for him. You are pathetic.
He loves Obama and Bernie Sanders.

Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by ijebosb: 7:30pm On Apr 21
basilico:


Lies.
Obama won almost double the counties JB won, what was the gdp of obama counties won %.
Joe Biden doesn't know the names of thr counties he won .


Add math and statistics to things you don't understand. And who would have thunk you wouldn't understand the level of generational poverty in Republican counties by sitting in Nigeria and overdosing on Right Wing propaganda.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/biden-voting-counties-equal-70-of-americas-economy-what-does-this-mean-for-the-nations-political-economic-divide/

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by LordReed(m): 7:34pm On Apr 21
basilico:


Trying so hard schillng for him. You are pathetic.
He loves Obama and Bernie Sanders.

LoLz. You must be so drunk you can't even spell shilling correctly. Bwahahahahahaha!

So? He still was a conspiracy theorist like you.

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by bemeruca: 7:35pm On Apr 21
ijebosb:
I think this is always worth pointing out.


it is worth pointing out indeed. it shows how dumb you are.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by ijebosb: 7:37pm On Apr 21
LordReed:


Like he can be both things. He still was a conspiracy theorist much like you. Did you see the picture of him holding up a sign that Joe Biden and Donald Trump are working hand in hand? That's where you people's lies are going to land some people, mental illness or harmful actions.

He definitely sounds as nutty as Basilico.
Sound like any one Basilico's nutty rants here.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by bemeruca: 7:58pm On Apr 21
basilico:


Lies.
Obama won almost double the counties JB won, what was the gdp of obama counties won %.
Joe Biden doesn't know the names of thr counties he won .


Its funny how people are leaving those states for red states.
Blue states and homelessness cannot be distinguished

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 8:28pm On Apr 21
ijebosb:


Add math and statistics to things you don't understand. And who would have thunk you wouldn't understand the level of generational poverty in Republican counties by sitting in Nigeria and overdosing on Right Wing propaganda.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/biden-voting-counties-equal-70-of-americas-economy-what-does-this-mean-for-the-nations-political-economic-divide/

Ah Brookings. Oh a credible source.
I believe.
That guy who cooked up the Trump golden shower Moscow hotel room was a Brookings Fellow.
Its a democrat thinktank, I would never believe anything from them.
I'll verify anyway , if Im wrong Ill admit
But Brookings... No no no. Thats a propaganda outlet.
Their long running president
, Talbott till 2017 , when Russia hoax was in the oven was a Russia expert advising Congress for s long time.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by ijebosb: 8:57pm On Apr 21
basilico:


Ah Brookings. Oh a credible source.
I believe.
That guy who cooked up the Trump golden shower Moscow hotel room was a Beookings Fellow.
Its a democrat thinktank, I would never believe anything from them.
Ill verify anyway , if Im wrong Ill admit
But Brookings... No no no. Thats a propqganda outlet.

Imagine spending your life talking about US politics without understanding Red States are generally really poor.

No wonder why you are an illiterate. All the sources of peer reviewed factual information are propaganda outlets to you. The GOP has done an amazing job keeping its followers dumb and uneducated.

Here is bloomberg:
Think Carefully Before Cutting Off Subsidies to Red States
There are a few ways liberals could reduce the imbalance. But all of them play to conservatives' wishes.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-05/think-carefully-before-cutting-off-subsidies-to-red-states?embedded-checkout=true

Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 9:00pm On Apr 21
budaatum:


You lying dishonest toerag! Where does what you posted equate to "called a baby in the womb as a 'clump of cells' or something like that"?

Was an earlier quote from you answering me directly. I will never forget how callous, inhumane and unfeeling it sounded
Why you think I quote you every time Im talking abortion? it was precisely how you referred to a foetus as either a mass or clump of cells.

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by bemeruca: 9:15pm On Apr 21
The House of Representatives passed a major aid bill for Ukraine, Israel, and Palestine.
The Ukraine Bill is a waste, not that i don't support it, but because they are doing it wrong. Everything I told Budaatum and Ibime about the Ukraine war is 100% spot on as we can see today.

2 things can be wrong at the same time.
it is wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine,
it is also wrong for Ukraine to not seek a resolution before the start of the war or after the start of the war.
it is also the case that the West, the US, and the EU pushed Ukraine into this predicament.

this 65 billion is a waste as in the next couple of months they will be talking about more aid.

My position:
Actions have consequences.
Ukraine has the right to decide their future,
they have the right to fight for what they want.

Question: when you cannot fight or defend yourself, What do you do?

it's not like such a scenario has not happened before.

as it is now, both the West and Russia have destroyed Ukraine with bogus promises.

I told the two above that Ukraine is not winning the war the other time, if they want to win, they have to go into Russia with destruction. if the West is not willing to do that for Ukraine then all these supports are a waste of time and people. Sanctions do not win wars.

The US gives 65 billion in aid, and Russia asks Iran for a couple of thousand drones, Ukraine uses air defense missiles worth millions to shoot them down and they run back to the West for more aid. this will continue forever.

Just like I said before, it's either Ukraine surrendering and accepting the deal back then and forgetting about the territories Russia took, or the West should assist Ukraine in hitting inside of Russia which will make them think twice as the Russians are dying like flies in Ukraine. nobody wins a war by defending. If Russia pulls out today, Ukraine will say they won the war... but look at their cities.

So if the West wants to stop wasting aid to Ukraine, they should provide them with offensive weapons, ones that can hit Russian oil fields, and industry... that is the only way this war can stop.

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by bemeruca: 9:52pm On Apr 21
ijebosb:


Imagine spending your life talking about US politics without understanding Red States are generally really poor.

No wonder why you are an illiterate. All the sources of peer reviewed factual information are propaganda outlets to you. The GOP has done an amazing job keeping its followers dumb and uneducated.

Here is bloomberg:
Think Carefully Before Cutting Off Subsidies to Red States
There are a few ways liberals could reduce the imbalance. But all of them play to conservatives' wishes.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-05/think-carefully-before-cutting-off-subsidies-to-red-states?embedded-checkout=true


see the nonsense you post hahahaha
why are you dumb?
also, why are you Gay?

tell us, why are people leaving Blue States for a better life then?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6-DUiLr0Cs

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 4:48am On Apr 22
LordReed:


LoLz. You must be so drunk you can't even spell shilling correctly. Bwahahahahahaha!

So? He still was a conspiracy theorist like you.


I'm not a student of grammar, typo ,if you got the meaning Well and good

Wot conspiracy theory do i spin?
Its only that if it's been effectively refuted.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 5:02am On Apr 22
bemeruca:
The House of Representatives passed a major aid bill for Ukraine, Israel, and Palestine.
The Ukraine Bill is a waste, not that i don't support it, but because they are doing it wrong. Ever

Mything I told Budaatum and Ibime about the Ukraine war is 100% spot on as we can see today.

2 things can be wrong at the same time.
it is wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine,
it is also wrong for Ukraine to not seek a resolution before the start of the war or after the start of the war.
it is also the case that the West, the US, and the EU pushed Ukraine into this predicament.

this 65 billion is a waste as in the next couple of months they will be talking about more aid.

My position:
Actions have consequences.
Ukraine has the right to decide their future,
they have the right to fight for what they want.

Question: when you cannot fight or defend yourself, What do you do?

it's not like such a scenario has not happened before.

as it is now, both the West and Russia have destroyed Ukraine with bogus promises.

I told the two above that Ukraine is not winning the war the other time, if they want to win, they have to go into Russia with destruction. if the West is not willing to do that for Ukraine then all these supports are a waste of time and people. Sanctions do not win wars.

The US gives 65 billion in aid, and Russia asks Iran for a couple of thousand drones, Ukraine uses air defense missiles worth millions to shoot them down and they run back to the West for more aid. this will continue forever.

Just like I said before, it's either Ukraine surrendering and accepting the deal back then and forgetting about the territories Russia took, or the West should assist Ukraine in hitting inside of Russia which will make them think twice as the Russians are dying like flies in Ukraine. nobody wins a war by defending. If Russia pulls out today, Ukraine will say they won the war... but look at their cities.

So if the West wants to stop wasting aid to Ukraine, they should provide them with offensive weapons, ones that can hit Russian oil fields, and industry... that is the only way this war can stop.
My take. Joe Biden wants to emulate Reagan who overspent Russia on Star wars , and also gave Taliban stinger missiles to shoot diwn Russia aircraft
Its always been getting rid of Putin through NATO. Why does Ukraine have to join NATO if there will never be a war with Russia ever because of their nuclear triad.
Boris Johnson stopped Zelensky from negotiating with Russia in April 2022. Just two months after the war.
Methinks money sent to Ukraine has huge chunk laundered back to politicians. Defence Contractors are churning out war equipment with an unlimited market. Congress critters get campaign funding and job offers from these contractors. Follow the money .
They take down Putin, they access vast Russia resources. (Russia is still supplying America with nuclear fuel today). Russia destroys Ukraine, Blackrock and others rebuild Ukraine via a Marshall Plan. Russia withdrawal, Big oil takes over mining vast Shale oil fields in South Western Ukraine.
It's all about money, power and control by the greedy *****.
Millions of lives lost is collateral damage.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by bemeruca: 5:18am On Apr 22
basilico:

My take. Joe Biden wants to emulate Reagan who overspent Russia on Star wars , and also gave Taliban stinger missiles to shoot diwn Russia aircraft
Its always been getting rid of Putin through NATO. Why does Ukraine have to join NATO if there will never be a war with Russia ever because of their nuclear triad.
Boris Johnson stopped Zelensky from negotiating with Russia in April 2022. Just two months after the war.
Methinks money sent to Ukraine has huge chunk laundered back to politicians. Defence Contractors are churning out war equipment with an unlimited market. Congress critters get campaign funding and job offers from these contractors. Follow the money .
They take down Putin, they access vast Russia resources. (Russia is still supplying America with nuclear fuel today). Russia destroys Ukraine, Blackrock and others rebuild Ukraine via a Marshall Plan. Russia withdrawal, Big oil takes over mining vast Shale oil fields in South Western Ukraine.
It's all about money, power and control by the greedy *****.
Millions of lives lost is collateral damage.

I don't think they are actually sending cash to Ukraine, at least not right now. Defence contractors are the ones getting laughing all the way to the back. Old weapons in a warehouse is sent to Ukraine while Lockheed Martins make new ones to replace them.

This one can go on forever and no matter how much NATO spend, it won't make any difference except they hit Russia hard and cripple their economy. I mean industrial assets.

I was angry when Boris did that. My issue with them is that they think Russia will deplete all their ammunition and end the war, all Ukraine has to do is to hold its breath.

Israel has been doing that for ages... But the enemies will always adapt and as a result, Oct 7th happened.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 5:22am On Apr 22
ijebosb:


Imagine spending your life talking about US politics without understanding Red States are generally really poor.

No wonder why you are an illiterate. All the sources of peer reviewed factual information are propaganda outlets to you. The GOP has done an amazing job keeping its followers dumb and uneducated.

Here is bloomberg:
Think Carefully Before Cutting Off Subsidies to Red States
There are a few ways liberals could reduce the imbalance. But all of them play to conservatives' wishes.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-05/think-carefully-before-cutting-off-subsidies-to-red-states?embedded-checkout=true


Imagine having the time to worry about others. Only possible once you have sorted out your fundamental issues.
Where you are on this pyramid? Ever seen something like this?It makes you set goals in life.
You see the third level. Love and relationships. Its a must if you are to self actualize.You need to have family and satisfactory sexual intimacy.
Note I didn't imvent this pyramid.

Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 5:29am On Apr 22
bemeruca:


I don't think they are actually sending cash to Ukraine, at least not right now. Defence contractors are the ones getting laughing all the way to the back. Old weapons in a warehouse is sent to Ukraine while Lockheed Martins make new ones to replace them.

This one can go on forever and no matter how much NATO spend, it won't make any difference except they hit Russia hard and cripple their economy. I mean industrial assets.

I was angry when Boris did that. My issue with them is that they think Russia will deplete all their ammunition and end the war, all Ukraine has to do is to hold its breath.

Israel has been doing that for ages... But the enemies will always adapt and as a result, Oct 7th happened.

Bottom line, the war is very good business. Putin still dreams of the Soviet territories, to his chagrin the west broke up USSR. Now they want to break up Russia.
Lives be they Ukraine or Russia or any other mesn nothing.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by LordReed(m): 6:45am On Apr 22
basilico:


I'm not a student of grammar, typo ,if you got the meaning Well and good

Wot conspiracy theory do i spin?
Its only that if it's been effectively refuted.

I will recall one of you many debunked lies.

Here is one:

basilico:

Conspiracy theory.How come only high ranking Republicans get covid at the most inconvenient time.

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Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 9:03am On Apr 22
LordReed:


I will recall one of you many debunked lies.

Here is one:


That one? Muh first two words is that its a conspiracy theory . Which means I knew it was BS.
You got an F in grammar, I think that's one area you need to work on.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by LordReed(m): 11:32am On Apr 22
basilico:


That one? Muh first two words is that its a conspiracy theory . Which means I knew it was BS.
You got an F in grammar, I think that's one area you need to work on.

LoLz! Now you want to act like you were not seriously stating it.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by basilico: 12:21pm On Apr 22
LordReed:


LoLz! Now you want to act like you were not seriously stating it.

Thinking that you have a serious problem.
And its not lack of money.
Re: American Politics Thread: President-Elect Trump by LordReed(m): 1:09pm On Apr 22
basilico:


Thinking that you have a serious problem.
And its not lack of money.

Whatever is wrong with me is better than what is wrong with you.

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