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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:54pm On Aug 06 |
IjeBos:Guy did your data show the number of terrorists dead in Gaza? That is my issue and it is very valid and not based on bias. It is a rational and sensible question that will be asked after the war ends. Did not see where I stated that releasing figures without distinguishing combatants from non-combatants is an indicator of an agenda that wants to drive a narrative that Israel started the war when infact it did not? That is what the Gaza health ministry controlled by Hamas is doing and this disingenous intention of theirs is enough to question the death data that they release. You are a data guy but you do not work for the Hamas controlled Health ministry. In a war there are casualty figures of combatants and non combatants in this war everyone in Gaza is a woman and child including the Hamas fighters that we know the IDF is fighting against in Gaza and that is not possible, when the Gaza ministry of health begin distinguishing the dead just like how it is done in war then I will take them seriously, conflating the death toll which I still don't trust is to drive out sentiments and make it seem like it is not a war that Hamas started but that Israel just sat down and started without provocation and we all know that it is a lie . |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Konquest: 7:56pm On Aug 06 |
basilico:Is that a FACT-CHECKED, verified information? Why didn't they bring up those allegations up all this while when he occupied other senior political positions? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:10pm On Aug 06 |
@Ijebos I believe that you are an intelligent fellow so what do you mean by wanting me to define terrorists i hope that you are not asking me this question to try and defend Hamas? I am not the founder of English language but let me break it down for you according to the dictionary. A terrorists is someone who uses unlawful means such a violence, fear and intimidation to threaten civilians in the pursuit of a political goal. Now, in line with this definition let me tell you how Hamas are a terrorists group. Hamas the political representative of Gaza which was founded in the 1980's has in it's earlier charter that it aims to annihilate the Jewish state, read article 7 of the charter. Wanting to exterminate a people and a nation is not just a political ideology but genocidal too. How does Hamas go about this objective, it is very simple attacking unarmed civilians and killing them was done through violence, intimidation and fear, it is unlawful because it is not lawful to take a life without justification, what was Hamas' justification in killing civilians which included foreigners on October 7th. Hamas' leaders live large in Gaza and use their money to buy ammunitions and weapons instead of focusing on governing. With this very little points of mine, did I fail to convince you that these terrorists indeed fall into the category of what it means to be terrorists or need I say more? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 8:20pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ijebos has been defending hamas with his life here. Be careful before you start hearing things Like I am more intelligent than you, I am richer than you haven't been to the US. This is how intelligent people make their point when they debate. 😂 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 8:22pm On Aug 06 |
Konquest: Gets. Even better. During the summer of love riots, after the thug George Floyd death, Walz allowed them to burn down Minneapolis. Then when they were arrested Kamala Harris raised funds to bail them out Some of those bailed went went on to commit murder, rape and other crimes while Kamala called for defunding Police. Walz also supports driver’s licenses for illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, “gender-affirming care” for children, and abortion-on-demand. He even stated, “One person’s socialism is another person’s neighborliness.” 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:38pm On Aug 06 |
@ijebos, the two intifadas that happened who suffered the consequences? What makes you think that chanting intifada when you are not militarily superior is a good thing? Protesters chanting intifada and glory to the resistance are idiots. They are not resisting anything they are only angry that they are losing, how can you want to free Palestine yet at the same time chant for an intifada when it did not go well the last time and only made matters worst? That is not how you free Palestine that is how you cause it to suffer. In regards to the article you shared, there is no mention of Netanyahu using it. I didn't see it there let me break down what "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" means. Israel is situated between the Jordanian River and the Meditterenean sea when you use that slogan which is used by terrorists groups such as Hamas whose aim is to wipe Israel off the map because they do not believe in a two-state solution or peaceful co-existence then it means that you are a genocidal maniac who simply doesn't understand that a majority of Palestinians do not want to free Palestine but rather believe that Israel has to be gone for Palestine to exist because from the Jordanian river to the Meditterenean sea where Israel sits belongs to Palestine and that is simply not true. It was never the Arabs own and the UN partitioning of 1947 affirms this. They don't want a two-state solution. The slogan is genocidal and as long as they do not stop this pointless grievance we will all die and leave this world and Israel will still be dealing with Palestinians. Lastly, my faith is somewhat between Christianity and Deism or inbetween and my support for Israel has nothing to do with religion. Religion doesn't interest me that much and it definitely does not influence my decision making and ideology. I don't believe that Jews are a special people or believe the Bible to be infallible. My support for Israel is the common sense position as someone who believes in liberties and democracies. What Hamas represents is none of that, what the Palestinians support and teach their children is none of that. The war is also a religious one too, if you think I am lying ask Palestinians and other Muslims why they refer to the casualties as matyrs, also ask them why they believe that dying while killing or trying to kill a Jew is matyrdom? read Hamas'charter Muslims hate Jews. There are wars Muslims are suffering in Yemen and Syria but no one complains about the unfortunate death count but they do care when it is the Jews in Israel doing it. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 8:41pm On Aug 06 |
A little PSA for you Guys. The rabid maga cultist basilico loco for no reason will start attacking Tim Walz here once he gets some feed from the weirdos. When he does that, ask him if ever knew who was Tim Walz before now. basilico loco. Just focus on your misogyny with Harris. Coz you'll sound dumb like fake pastor olaadegbu if you ever dare to pivot. 😂 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 8:44pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: So, by your definition you argue that Hamas is a terrorist group. Ok. So, by your definition how do you argue that the Netanyahu government is not a terrorist group? Especially when the Israeli government allows Settlers to commit violence against Palestinians. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 8:45pm On Aug 06 |
Obrigardo: Indeed, Shapiro’s opponents have uncovered a 30-year-old opinion piece headlined “Peace not possible,” written by the future governor of Pennsylvania when he was a 20-year-old student at the University of Rochester. None of us should have to answer for the things we believed at 20. The young Shapiro, though, happened to be correct. https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/josh-shapiro-israel-gaza-peace-column-vice-president-20240802.html In the column, Shapiro argues that no deal can stop the Israel-Palestinian conflict. “Palestinians will not coexist peacefully,” he observed. “They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own.” Shapiro’s view, which I’m told is “controversial,” has been rigorously and unfailingly confirmed over the past 30 years. It was as objectively true back in 1950s, before any “occupied territories” existed, as it was in 1990s, and as it is today. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 8:45pm On Aug 06 |
basilico: Oh the maga weirdo punk has even started. You truly have no shame. What a weirdo. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 8:47pm On Aug 06 |
basilico: 😁😂🤣 Who's talking about Shapiro? I didn't. You are in a meltdown overdrive. A damaged broken record. I think you need a mental health check and a time off from rabid maga hatred. Not good for you old man. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 8:48pm On Aug 06 |
Obrigardo: Prove that I'm lying. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by basilico: 8:49pm On Aug 06 |
Obrigardo: She went for the Death to America votes leaving out Shapiro.She pandered to the Hamas supporters. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 8:52pm On Aug 06 |
basilico: When will learn that hate has an expiration time. Hate will not win. Stop living in hate and take care of yourself. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:52pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: Again, incase you all don't know when Palestinians die in this war they are labelled matyrs. Google the meaning of "matyrs" and tell me why I should not also see this war as a religious one. You think that it was about land that made the Arabs living in Palestine team up with Hitler to exterminate the Jews? You think that it was only because of land that the Arab states attacked Israel in 1948? Antisemitism was part of it, Muslims just like Christians have an antisemitism problem. If those Arabs had cared about Palestinians Egypt and Jordan would not have annexed the West bank and the Gaza strip and take it as their own instead they annexed it and failed to give it independence because the whole fighting had never been about land but Jew hatred, how people don't see this and read about their violent rhetoric and history is beyond me. Israel took it back when they won the war and gave it to Gazans when they left Gaza in 2005. In which after a year those people elected terrorists Hamas. If they wanted governance they wouldn't vote for terrorists who want to kill the Jews. The same Palestinians that their Arab neighbours have abandoned and embraced peace after Israel seriously dealt with them in those wars. If Palestinians had sense they would have been peace eons ago but you have dummies in the West carrying water for terrorists and want me to see these people who rejected having statehood in 1948 but were more interested in not sharing a land that never belonged to them as victims. They are no victims, my sympathies are for the Congolese, Sudanese, Syrians and Yemenis that are going through hell. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 8:54pm On Aug 06 |
basilico: Y'all just acting crazy and disjointed. Like all the maga idiots on twitter are all over the place with completely unrelated meltdowns. Quite funny lol. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:57pm On Aug 06 |
IjeBos:They are terrorists too. I am against Israeli occupation and with that said you cannot equate Hamas to settlers sha. One is settling because the territory is not sovereign or a recognised state hence the incursion. If Palestinians were very serious about governing they would have become a state and exercised their sovereignty in the West bank and none of this would be happening. Even when Israel left Gaza, they left it in a good state, they elected Hamas who turned it into a wasteland. Shapiro was right they are too battleminded to govern and that is why unfortunately they will keep suffering. The other wants to exterminate a Jewish state that just wants to exist. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 9:04pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: I hear, but it still doesn't change the meaning of the word. I'll leave it there as my views of protest even when you are in no the superior position is a longer discussion. But, a big driver of the civil rights movement were students who weren't in a position of power. So, I think Campus protests are very important. AmazonTopaz: Here is Netanyahu using it. “This conflict is not about the lack of a state of Palestinians but the existence of a Jewish state,” he said, according to a translation from i24News. “Every area we evacuate, we receive terrible terror… and therefore I clarify that in any arrangement, in the future the state of Israel has to control the from the river to the sea,” he continued, repeating a phrase that Israeli supporters have claimed is a call for genocide when used by pro-Palestinian supporters. https://www.salon.com/2024/01/18/from-the-river-to-the-sea-netanyahu-says-he-told-biden-he-opposes-any-palestinian-state-after/ Would you also say he supports genocide? AmazonTopaz:Ok, apologies for the insinuation I think some Israelis teach their children similar. Here is a video of Children singing about wiping out Gaza. I'm including the AlJazeera link as I couldn't find another youtube version with the video. Here is an article discussing it. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/clip-of-israeli-kids-singing-of-wiping-out-nations-enemies-elicits-outrage/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUpm2jGJc18 |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 9:34pm On Aug 06 |
If I was basilico loco, I'd be so ashamed of this rapist. But both men don't have that backbones. Felon trump is just giving up here, seriously. What nonsense is this 😂
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by ObaIgwe1: 9:34pm On Aug 06 |
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 9:39pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: We have been preaching this but budaatum who does not know how society and human behavior works is always behind hamas and Palestinians whispering in their ears. Fight for your land even when he knows they cannot win and as a result lose more lands. I have been trying to educate him on this for more than 4 years but the skull is tough to crack. Everything you utter here has been said. Some was said to you but I am glad you finally see it. You were always in front vilifying israel but I am glad you now see what we have been talking about. Kudos |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 9:50pm On Aug 06 |
Maga cultists are making no sense at all and telling on themselves. I see why felon trump has given up 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 9:52pm On Aug 06 |
ObaIgwe1: Convicted felon trump will not recover from this 😁 |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 10:14pm On Aug 06 |
basilico loco would be a scooping up content about tampons and Tim Walz at the moment so he can then rabid post here. But before that 😂 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Konkoja: 10:15pm On Aug 06 |
bemeruca: What a poor attempt at sarcasm? Again, start using your brain! |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 10:18pm On Aug 06 |
Konkoja: don't go and protest against the idiot you people put in charge |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 10:30pm On Aug 06 |
There's no empty seat in the Philadelphia Harris Walz event about to start, and 47,000! Tickets already for Detroit tomorrow. Convicted felon trump will not catch up. I predicted he'll drop out but the maga cult needs a strong man, so 50/50 chance. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by feedthenation(m): 10:30pm On Aug 06 |
Obrigardo: ---Obrigardo---you must be super delighted that Tim Walz was confirmed---he's a decent politician---i would have preferred Jamie Raskin as VP candidate---but on second thought---he is needed in the House to deal with those MAGA demons i.e. Jim Jordan, Majorie Taylor Greene--- ---Even Fox News are trying hard to find fault in Tim Walz's life history---they couldn't find anything to the level of FelonTrump--- https://www.foxnews.com/politics/five-controversies-surrounding-vice-presidential-nominee-tim-walz-from-dui-covid-fraud 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 10:32pm On Aug 06 |
feedthenation: He appeals to so many classes of people. Man i feel chills just reading and learning about him. Convicted felon trump is just gonna piss a lot of people off, eventually. |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by feedthenation(m): 10:35pm On Aug 06 |
Obrigardo: ---Trump should be advised that Biden is no longer on the ballot---it shows that he is a one-trip pony---he is officially now the oldest presidential candidate in US history at 78 years old--- 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 10:36pm On Aug 06 |
And look at what this bum's team did😂🤣 Like he's campaigning for Kamala. Look at all their faces, so funny 😁🤣 basilico loco see oo
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by Obrigardo: 10:40pm On Aug 06 |
feedthenation: That would be impossible with the maga cult. The narcissistic supreme lord wants adulation and kingship, the upper maga grifters want the cash to keep flowing, while the dumbest of the dumb maga cultists keep pushing, defending and supporting the rapist because he hates what they hate. It's a cult. |
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