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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 3:36pm On Oct 11
ObaIgwe1:


The fact that you have listened to most of her speeches doesn't mean others have.

To someone like you and I many of her comments sounds like a broken record, but her aim are at those who don't know her.

Most politicians including Obama sound like a broken record when you constantly follow and listen to them, especially during campaigns.... But they are not speaking to you that already know them, they are targeting new audience.

That does not mean she will keep regurgitating the same thing over and over again. And funny part is, it is not a good answer and it is not an answer to the question. How does small business getting task break or loans bring Down the cost of living for everyone else?

Trump said energy and farmers needs to be worked on, etc.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On Oct 11
ObaIgwe1:


The fact that you have listened to most of her speeches doesn't mean others have.

To someone like you and I many of her comments sounds like a broken record, but her aim are at those who don't know her.

Most politicians including Obama sound like a broken record when you constantly follow and listen to them, especially during campaigns.... But they are not speaking to you that already know them, they are targeting new audience.

How come people didnt accuse Obama of repetition and being scripted? Because he was a smart man and authentic too, he can go off script and banter with you based on the topic, But Kamala

What s your favourite color

I grew up in a middle class family
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by ObaIgwe1: 3:38pm On Oct 11
bemeruca:


Lol raumdeuter already responded to it. It's not for you. Mistake from IjeBos

I know right...just pulling his legs. Reason you saw me putting the cheeky smiley after cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On Oct 11
wirinet:

October 7 was not an isolated incident. Isreal and Palestinians have been kidnapping each other for decades. It has always been tit for tat. It was just that hamas took up up a notch by kidnapping hundreds of Israelis instead of the usual 1 or 2. There are thousands of Palestinians in Israeli jails, the Palestinians usually use the captured Israelis as bargaining chips in exchange for their own prisoners.
What do you think was the aim of Hamas for invading isreal and holding hundreds of hostages? I hope you don't think their aim was to capture Israeli lands.

As I said I am sure MOSSAD allowed the invasion take place. The invasion involved over a year of planning, it was not spontaneous.

I am asking what exactly did Israel do to make Hamas kill thousands and kidnap hundreds on October 7

The October 7 was not an attack on military locations
They didn't attempt to break out locked up Palestinians
It was not an attack on IDF
It was an attempt to kill Israeli civilians as many as possible of them
October 7 was by design an attack on Israeli civilians to wreck terror on them
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 3:46pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


How come people didnt accuse Obama of repetition and being scripted? Because he was a smart man and authentic too, he can go off script and banter with you based on the topic, But Kamala

What s your favourite color

I grew up in a middle class family

She was using a teleprompter

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 3:51pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


I am asking what exactly did Israel do to make Hamas kill thousands and kidnap hundreds
I hope you are not tone deaf, as the post above summarise the whole thing.
Isreal and Palestinians have been in a state of war for decades. Conflicts had broken out on a regular bases almost on a yearly basis since the occupation of large swaths of West Bank and Gaza. The Palestinians have been under occupation by isreal who give then no rights whatsoever. They cannot vote, they cannot hold passports, they cannot leave the enclaves provided for them by Israel, nothing can come in and out of West Bank and Gaza without the permission of the Israelis. In fact these places are regarded as the largest open air prisons in the world.
Obviously, you would expect violent reaction from the Palestinians.
One of the paradoxes in the world is that the same people supporting Israel indiscriminately bombing Palestinians homes, hospitals and schools will be the same people that would criticise the Nigerian government if they carry out the same policy in Aba, Umuahia or Enugu, should the government start going after IPOB or Unknown gun men for killing Nigerian soldiers and policemen by bombing homes and hospitals.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 3:53pm On Oct 11
wirinet:

I hope you are not tone deaf, as the post above summarise the whole thing.
Isreal and Palestinians have been in a state of war for decades. Conflicts had broken out on a regular bases almost on a yearly basis since the occupation of large swaths of West Bank and Gaza. The Palestinians have been under occupation by isreal who give then no rights whatsoever. They cannot vote, they cannot hold passports, they cannot leave the enclaves provided for them by Israel, nothing can come in and out of West Bank and Gaza without the permission of the Israelis. In fact these places are regarded as the largest open air prisons in the world.
Obviously, you would expect violent reaction from the Palestinians.
One of the paradoxes in the world is that the same people supporting Israel indiscriminately bombing Palestinians homes, hospitals and schools will be the same people that would criticise the Nigerian government if they carry out the same policy in Aba, Umuahia or Enugu, should the government start going after IPOB or Unknown gun men for killing Nigerian soldiers and policemen by bombing homes and hospitals.

Why cant Hamas go out of Gaza without permission of Israel. They have a border with Egypt. Is Israel controlling the Egypt/Gaza border?

The October 7 was not an attack on military locations
They didn't attempt to break out locked up Palestinians
It was not an attack on IDF
It was an attempt to kill Israeli civilians as many as possible of them
October 7 was by design an attack on Israeli civilians to wreck terror on them
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by ObaIgwe1: 3:59pm On Oct 11
bemeruca:


She was using a teleprompter


Haaaa na wa!

So she knows the questions individual will ask ahead of time and prepared for it right? And even if that was possible, you think the US - VP will be that stupid to make it that obvious?

She was in a media studio and audience of Hispanic people, many of them don't speak English, that was a translator.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 4:00pm On Oct 11
wirinet:

I hope you are not tone deaf, as the post above summarise the whole thing.
Isreal and Palestinians have been in a state of war for decades. Conflicts had broken out on a regular bases almost on a yearly basis since the occupation of large swaths of West Bank and Gaza. The Palestinians have been under occupation by isreal who give then no rights whatsoever. They cannot vote, they cannot hold passports, they cannot leave the enclaves provided for them by Israel, nothing can come in and out of West Bank and Gaza without the permission of the Israelis. In fact these places are regarded as the largest open air prisons in the world.
Obviously, you would expect violent reaction from the Palestinians.
One of the paradoxes in the world is that the same people supporting Israel indiscriminately bombing Palestinians homes, hospitals and schools will be the same people that would criticise the Nigerian government if they carry out the same policy in Aba, Umuahia or Enugu, should the government start going after IPOB or Unknown gun men for killing Nigerian soldiers and policemen by bombing homes and hospitals.

Palestine is an autonomous country. They have rights hamas is the government.
Israel did not give them rights but they have rights to ammunitions of all kinds? You are not making sense.

Israel has every right to be vigilant on a state that wants to destroy them. Before wall was built, Palestinians freely go into Israel to work. Suicide attacks and terror attacks caused the building of the wall. Now Egypt borders Palestine, ask yourself if Palestinians a free to roam Egypt?

If you say they have been in a state of war for decades why are you complaining of occupation? Maybe The occupation will stop when the Palestinians embrace peace like Egypt and Jordan did. They are weak but are always starting fights.

Yaya sinwa dying of brain cancer was cured by Israel when he was in prison only for him to be released in a prisoner exchange and send the Palestinians back to the stone age.

What are they fighting for?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 4:04pm On Oct 11
ObaIgwe1:


Haaaa na wa!

So she knows the questions individual will ask ahead of time and prepared for it right? And even if that was possible, you think the US - VP will be that stupid to make it that obvious?

She was in a media studio and audience of Hispanic people, many of them don't speak English, that was a translator.


Possible
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 4:05pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


Why cant Hamas go out of Gaza without permission of Israel. They have a border with Egypt. Is Israel controlling the Egypt/Gaza border?

The October 7 was not an attack on military locations
They didn't attempt to break out locked up Palestinians
It was not an attack on IDF
It was an attempt to kill Israeli civilians as many as possible of them
October 7 was by design an attack on Israeli civilians to wreck terror on them

It seems you have no idea on the genesis of the conflict and just jump into Israel defence blindly, either due to religious reasons (which I don't really understand as the Israelis hate Christians and blacks as much as the Arabs), or due to listening to too much Jewish controlled media.
I am first a humanist, I hate to see sufferings in this world. I can never support killings, murder and exploitation under whatever guise. Secondly I am an atheist, I find the Abrahamaic religions to violent and exploitative, it is skewed again the week and powerless of the society - the poor, women and children. And lastly I am a liberal, I believe in the principle of live and let live.

Watch this video to learn about the situation in Gaza before this current round of conflict.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNV2oArb7K8?si=yUY8yFplvT6jUTII

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:07pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


That is the question Black people are asking themselves. Charles Barley is over 60. If he started voting at 20 that means 40yrs of voting. 10 presidential elections of voting Democrats yet nothing has changed for him and his neighborhood

Isn't it about time he does something different?

Black men typically don't have anything given to them, they work to get everything, they dont get benefits of being white, they don't get benefits of being women. So they get it from all sides. And justifiably are the ones who know whats up and how no one gives a shiit about you

Are you stupid. What's worse that a black coon. A black uneducated coon who has no idea of history. In those 40 years of course he is better off because of the work of liberals. Your cooning ass wouldn't have even been in this country if it wasn't for the work of liberals.

1964 - Civil Rights Act -
1965 - Voting Rights Act
1968- Fair Housing Act
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 4:08pm On Oct 11
wirinet:


It seems you have no idea on the genesis of the conflict and just jump into Israel defence blindly, either due to religious reasons (which I don't really understand as the Israelis hate Christians and blacks as much as the Arabs), or due to listening to too much Jewish controlled media.
I am first a humanist, I hate to see sufferings in this world. I can never support killings, murder and exploitation under whatever guise. Secondly I am an atheist, I find the Abrahamaic religions to violent and exploitative, it is skewed again the week and powerless of the society - the poor, women and children. And lastly I am a liberal, I believe in the principle of live and let live.

You just showed us all your virtue signals. What you said made no sense and Christianity has nothing to do with it.

I doubt you know the genesis of this issue because you talked about it then when on an attack on Christians.

Look at what bokoharam is doing, what they believe.

Don't post from Aljazeera lol

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:09pm On Oct 11
ObaIgwe1:


for me or raumdeuter: cheesy

Lol. Apologies. Wrong post.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 4:12pm On Oct 11
bemeruca:


You just showed us all your virtue signals. What you said made no sense and Christianity has nothing to do with it.

I doubt you know the genesis of this issue because you talked about it then when on an attack on Christians.

Look at what bokoharam is doing, what they believe.

Don't post from Aljazeera lol

You always jump to hit quote without bothering to read and comprehend what was written. Where did you see the attack on Christianity or Boko Haram?

Where should I post from? CNN, BBC, Foxnews?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh83jIwZjyY?si=6iqwSEtEOF9zSEit

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:14pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


Why cant Hamas go out of Gaza without permission of Israel. They have a border with Egypt. Is Israel controlling the Egypt/Gaza border?

The October 7 was not an attack on military locations
They didn't attempt to break out locked up Palestinians
It was not an attack on IDF
It was an attempt to kill Israeli civilians as many as possible of them
October 7 was by design an attack on Israeli civilians to wreck terror on them

Mr. Intellectually Dishonest Dementia patient at work. Lol. Let's see how many times he repeats this.

raumdeuter:


I am asking what exactly did Israel do to make Hamas kill thousands and kidnap hundreds on October 7

The October 7 was not an attack on military locations
They didn't attempt to break out locked up Palestinians
It was not an attack on IDF
It was an attempt to kill Israeli civilians as many as possible of them
October 7 was by design an attack on Israeli civilians to wreck terror on them
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 4:14pm On Oct 11
wirinet:


It seems you have no idea on the genesis of the conflict and just jump into Israel defence blindly, either due to religious reasons (which I don't really understand as the Israelis hate Christians and blacks as much as the Arabs), or due to listening to too much Jewish controlled media.
I am first a humanist, I hate to see sufferings in this world. I can never support killings, murder and exploitation under whatever guise. Secondly I am an atheist, I find the Abrahamaic religions to violent and exploitative, it is skewed again the week and powerless of the society - the poor, women and children. And lastly I am a liberal, I believe in the principle of live and let live.

Watch this video to learn about the situation in Gaza before this current round of conflict.
https://yotu.be/kNV2oArb7K8?si=yUY8yFpl6jUTII

Yet one party called Hamas does not recognize Israel right to live and you support them

Did this explalin why they are not able to enter Egypt? and why is it that Israel that allows them to come in work, get hospital care is the one they are bombing not Egypt

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 4:15pm On Oct 11
IjeBos:


Mr. Intellectually Dishonest Dementia patient at work. Lol. Let's see how many times he repeats this.


You belong in an asylum. The poster I quoted didnt have a problem with it, but you have already seen a point of complaint already

You see that you are not fit for a normal society

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 4:17pm On Oct 11
wirinet:


You always jump to hit quote without bothering to read and comprehend what was written. Where did you see the attack on Christianity or Boko Haram?

Where should I post from? CNN, BBC, Foxnews?
https://yotu.be/Rh83jIwZjyY?si=6iqwSEtEOF9zSEit

Can you share how Israelis caught by Hamas are treated?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 4:17pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


Yet one party called Hamas does not recognize Israel right to live and you support them
Israel does not recognize Palestinians right to live in their homeland and you support them

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Oct 11
wirinet:

Israel does not recognize Palestinians right to live in their homeland and you support them

Israel actually left Gaza in 2005 but Hamas turned it into a launchpad of terror against Israel.

So if some group does that to you what will you do? Let them just continue killing you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 4:21pm On Oct 11
wirinet:


You always jump to hit quote without bothering to read and comprehend what was written. Where did you see the attack on Christianity or Boko Haram?

Where should I post from? CNN, BBC, Foxnews?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh83jIwZjyY?si=6iqwSEtEOF9zSEit

Christians has nothing to do with it. Christianity is not a violent religion so is Judaism, saying the Abrahimic religion are violent is you attacking Christianity and Judaism since they are not.

Saying they hate Christians is you trying to turn Christians against them. On a broader scale you know what you are saying is not true.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by wirinet(m): 4:21pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


Can you share how Israelis caught by Hamas are treated?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChPpImsBx0?si=W4gImo0fxNxTbST-
This is from BBC

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by LordReed(m): 4:22pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


It would be nice if you can ask him and many black men why they felt abandoned by the democrats who they voted for all their lives. What you shouldnt do is tell him what he is feeling isnt legit. You are not in his shoes

He can feel anything he likes but he can't make up BS for us.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:23pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


How come people didnt accuse Obama of repetition and being scripted? Because he was a smart man and authentic too, he can go off script and banter with you based on the topic, But Kamala

What s your favourite color

I grew up in a middle class family

When coons try to rewrite history to erase racism.
Conservatives mocked Obama As stupid, that he was an empty suit. Clint Eastwood even had an empty chair at the RNC.
They even said he couldn't speak unless he had a teleprompter.

You're an enemy of black people and progress.

Obama: Just another empty suit
https://www.jacksonsun.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/09/08/obama-just-another-empty-suit/15159319/
Barack Obama Is Dumb and Lazy
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/03/barack-obama-dumb-and-lazy/
"Obama Is Stupid": The Stupid Thing Conservatives Love To Say
https://www.gq.com/story/why-conservatives-love-calling-obama-stupid
Obama’s safety net: the TelePrompter
https://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/obamas-safety-net-the-teleprompter-019663

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 4:23pm On Oct 11
wirinet:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChPpImsBx0?si=W4gImo0fxNxTbST-
This is from BBC

In the video you posted it mentioned Gaza is blockaded by Egypt and Israel yet they dont go killing Egyptians

Show us how Israelis captured by Hamas are treated

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 4:24pm On Oct 11
LordReed:


He can feel anything he likes but he can't make up BS for us.

He is talking for himself and others in the room who agree with him which is an increasing number of people in the black community which is why Kamalas numbers are lower than other former democratic contestatnts
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by bemeruca: 4:25pm On Oct 11
IjeBos:


When coons try to rewrite history to erase racism.
Conservatives mocked Obama As stupid, that he was an empty suit. Clint Eastwood even had an empty chair at the RNC.
They even said he couldn't speak unless he had a teleprompter.

You're an enemy of black people and progress.

Obama: Just another empty suit
https://www.jacksonsun.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/09/08/obama-just-another-empty-suit/15159319/
Barack Obama Is Dumb and Lazy
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/03/barack-obama-dumb-and-lazy/
"Obama Is Stupid": The Stupid Thing Conservatives Love To Say
https://www.gq.com/story/why-conservatives-love-calling-obama-stupid
Obama’s safety net: the TelePrompter
https://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/obamas-safety-net-the-teleprompter-019663

Nigger get lost your are irrelevant. We are discussing hamas
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by A40(m): 4:25pm On Oct 11
ObaIgwe1:


This is why it is a waste of time debating with some of you Trumpists, rather than admit wrong or bring out a logical argument when challenged, you will rather start whataboutism argument that has no bearing... Was I part of those who misquoted Trump with you?... abeg shift!
Are you not the gnome that jumped in my mentions.

You knew it was a waste of time debating Trumpists and yet you flew like bat from hell inside my mentions.

Where did I suggest any interest in talking to you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by IjeBos(m): 4:26pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


You belong in an asylum. The poster I quoted didnt have a problem with it, but you have already seen a point of complaint already

You see that you are not fit for a normal society

You have dementia. You say dumb shit and then repeat them over and over as if you think you're winning an argument.
Lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by A40(m): 4:27pm On Oct 11
raumdeuter:


When you are your economic realities are worse than they used to be 4yrs ago, Maybe na Taylor Swift, Clinton, Obama or Biden who have not stepped into a grocery store for decades will tell you how to make plans for your family

When your kids need food show them pictures of Kamala surrogates like Obaigwe1 is suggesting

https://x.com/j0ker937/status/1844370069666595211?s=19

It's quite funny how the major news networks are all in on the fraud that's SKamala even editing her CBS interviews with Bill Whittaker to make her sound coherent.

I wonder what Clinton, Obama, Swift, Biden have done for the hurricane victims.

Imagine having to apply for $750 as a citizen a tax paying citizen but illegal migrants are getting 5 figure sums. I pity black people still in the Democrat plantation. Kamala can afford a 60k chain despite being a public official that has never run a business.

Meanwhile people living paycheck to paycheck are still playing identity politics
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is President-Elect! by raumdeuter: 4:27pm On Oct 11
IjeBos:


When coons try to rewrite history to erase racism.
Conservatives mocked Obama As stupid, that he was an empty suit. Clint Eastwood even had an empty chair at the RNC.
They even said he couldn't speak unless he had a teleprompter.

You're an enemy of black people and progress.

Obama: Just another empty suit
https://www.jacksonsun.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/09/08/obama-just-another-empty-suit/15159319/
Barack Obama Is Dumb and Lazy
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/03/barack-obama-dumb-and-lazy/
"Obama Is Stupid": The Stupid Thing Conservatives Love To Say
https://www.gq.com/story/why-conservatives-love-calling-obama-stupid
Obama’s safety net: the TelePrompter
https://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/obamas-safety-net-the-teleprompter-019663

Reetard, You are too dumb. Go outside and find your racism and sexism episode of today

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