bemeruca:


This is how you shut out comon sense ..

raumdeuter:


Why is no one talking about Buda school, lordreed GF, obaigwe children? because they are adults and matured to know they dont bring such irrelevant personal matters online

But an insecure SOB like you who has failed at everything in life will start regaling us with lies of his wanabee life

budaatum:


Is it insecure to bring people's hair or lack of online too?

If so, do kindly let your i.s.i friend know he is immature and insecure. He might listen to you.

raumdeuter:


His life and personal experience is his fact unless you live with him and share the same experience how will you tell his facts is right or wrong

These facts are what is shrinking her support

budaatum:


Is it insecure to bring people's hair or lack of online too?

If so, do kindly let your i.s.i friend know he is immature and insecure. He might listen to you.

LordReed:


I get you,you want me to trust you bro. I get it. LoLz.

raumdeuter:


My point is I don't know nor care if you are a primary school dropout or have 7 PhDs from Kafanchan , If you have 25 GF in Ilobu or you are a celibate incel, If you have 200 kids in Umuahia or you do not. No one cares about your personal life

If you are to come here bragging about your looks or sexiness to people who will never see you when you can invest the energy on real world people who will care. That will be the insecure.

Your only currency here is the post you type very few care about your real life whether you are Denzel or an imp

IjeBos:



As to the criterion to genocide, IMAliyu2 wrote some good posts on that.
And I'll add that the UN believes that there are "reasonable grounds" to believe Israel is committing genocide.

But I'll take it from a different perspective.
What do you think Israel's long term objectives are?
And how does basically flattening Gaza fit into it?
In fact, what they are doing makes a 2 state solution even harder to accomplish. How can Israel can have a 2 state solution with a people after all that destruction and death? People have lost, mothers, fathers, siblings and children.
What are the goals of the settlers?

I think at a point we have to believe what some of Israeli politicians are saying and doing?
Look at some of the rhetoric
-Netanyahu brought up the Amalekites when referring to Palestine. He said You must remember what Amalek has done to you. The Amalekites were basically wiped out
-Their Defense minister said they were "fighting human animals".
-The Deputy Knesset speaker said on twitter their goal was "erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth"
-Their Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu said they should drop a Nuclear Bomb on Gaza that there “no uninvolved civilians”

And lastly, just look at a map of Israel. Does it not look obvious what they are doing esp. in Gaza?

IMAliyu2:


It seems you didn't take correction.
A population and birthrates only falls when a genocide has been successfully carried out

I guess I'll repeat myself, The criteria used to determine a genocide are not based on it being successful. It's based on the intents and actions of the accused party, not their success.

Also another correction this conflict has been ongoing for a while, it didn't start with oct 7
Though Hamas being a group i would say fundamentally is built on genocidal intent towards jews aswell, just made things worse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
Read to understand who started what.

AmazonTopaz:
Hamas made a two state solution difficult to establish when they attacked on October 7th. Only a fool will think a two state solution would happen after Palestinians showed themselves that they will rather kill Jews than embrace statehood. If anyone made that difficult to establish it was Hamas and Palestinians have always rejected a two-state solution they themselves are making it difficult to establish.

How many times has this map been disproved as false?

Again this matter would have been solved had Palestinians decided not to be unfortunate in 1948.

Your point still fails to prove genocide.

AmazonTopaz:


@bold, so you are saying that genocide isn't happening. You cannot claim something is genocide while at the same time claiming that it doesn't have to be successful. If you go to court with that argument you would lose. That was why the ICJ couldn't even do anything in January or rule it as a genocide. If I am lying show me where a genocide has not needed to be successful according to you has such a person or group been successfully prosecuted internationally.
I will not take your correction because when genocide occurs or if it is systemic for years as Palestinians and their sympathisers claim you will see the effect in the birthrate. That you say it has not been successfully carried out only proves that it is not a genocide but rather casualties of war and war crimes Israel could be guilty of. However, accusing them of genocide is an overreach and is not well rooted in facts.

raumdeuter:


That is actually the words of a black woman Nina Turner a former Congresswoman from Ohio

Maybe she's not living in the reality you are living in

bemeruca:


too much talk. 45k dead in 1 year including Hamas fighters. Hamas is almost eradicated so a huge chunk of that number is Hamas fighters. So much genocide

AmazonTopaz:
Hamas made a two state solution difficult to establish when they attacked on October 7th. Only a fool will think a two state solution would happen after Palestinians showed themselves that they will rather kill Jews than embrace statehood. If anyone made that difficult to establish it was Hamas and Palestinians have always rejected a two-state solution they themselves are making it difficult to establish.

How many times has this map been disproved as false?

Again this matter would have been solved had Palestinians decided not to be unfortunate in 1948.

Your point still fails to prove genocide.

IjeBos:


There is Lancet study that estimate that the death toll will be around or more than 186,000.
That's looks reasonable given the scale of destruction.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext

wirinet:

Exactly.
I believe what Israel is doing in Gaza and the West Bank can be regarded as low-grade or covert genocide. Of course you don't expect them to indiscriminately start bombing the Palestinians without any excuse or just ship them to gas chambers like the Nazis did in WW2.

They need to start a war in order to have justification for bombing Gaza and West Bank, thereby driving the Palestinians away from the land.

Israel often looks for triggers to prod the Palestinians into violent reactions in order to look for excuses to start bombing apartment buildings, schools, and hospitals. This Israel does by expanding settlements into occupied territories or arresting Palestinians and locking them in Israeli jails.

There is no way Benjamin Nathanyahu will tell the world that he was not aware of the October 7 invasion of Israel by Hamas commandos. MOSSAD that had infiltrated the Iranian security agencies and Hezbollah could not infiltrate the less òrganised Hamas?

bemeruca:


The scale of destruction has nothing to do with the death toll. Israel usually asks people to leave certain areas before they attack.
also, Lancet studies differ greatly from what the Hamas Health Ministry reports. if anything, Hamas health ministry should be 186,000 while Lancet reports 45 - 50k dead.

raumdeuter:


You don't have to trust me. I believe his experience and why he is making the decision to support who he is supporting

IjeBos:


The scale of destruction has nothing to do with the death toll. wtf?
Geez you're an idiot.
How you remember to breath is beyond me.

wirinet:


Understatement of the millennium. The old testament is replete with violence. From Genesis to Malachi, it one violence to another including God ordained genocide.

Only 2% of Israelis are Christians and there is an uneasy relationship between Christians and Jews. A lawmaker even proposed a bill banning Christians
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/with-tensions-high-anti-christian-protesters-rally-outside-jerusalem-event/amp/
https://m.jpost.com/christianworld/article-761906

IjeBos:


The two state solution was impossible only after October 7th, not when Israel politicians declared they didn't want a 2 state solution?
And what is false about the map?

basilico:


Another smug elitist (correction: idiot) parotting a two state solution . The Palestinians want every Jew exterminated. October 7 2023 ;they broke a truce like they have always done previously.

https://israelpolicyforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/A-Brief-History-of-Israel-Hamas-Ceasefire-Agreements.pdf

Two state solution cannot work and will never work.
Sponsor of Munich 72, Abu Mazen said Palestine will be judenrein ie completely free of Jews in a Palestinian state.
Furthermore no Palestinian will ever sign a peace deal with Israel lest he goes Anwar Sadat way.

bemeruca:


there was a time it would have worked and the last time was 1993.
as Iran and the other terrorist states get more weapons, their ambition to destroy Israel increase

basilico:
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Arafat refused to sign a peace deal and have the go ahead with the already planned intifada. Signing a deal would have been signing off on his death certificate.

bemeruca:


that was the last time it would have worked. since then Israel and Palestine don't wnt it anymore

basilico:


https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/10/there_will_never_be_a_two_state_solution.html

bemeruca:
How the world works; women vote for kamala because they are women no problem, men vote for Trump because they are men = sexism, mysogyny, racism

raumdeuter:


You can use the same analogy for Blacks must vote for a black candidates, But when its a non black person how does it sound?