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Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by manny4life(m): 10:07pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
you guys still going at it ? If he decides to spend the money on Nollywood, except if it was in clear terms that the money is for movie producing, then $200 million can go a long way in the Nollywood's infrastructure if you ask me. If govt bailed out banks, why should govt bail out the movie industry ? |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Princek12(m): 10:10pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
Sagamite: Your argument is now going circular. According to you, blocking piracy might lead to other problems because the infringers are umemployed youths who will have no alternative. But the essence of blocking the piracy is to make sure that the industry is growing so as to create legitimate jobs, whose benefits will outweigh any interest in allowing pirates to continue to operate with impunity. Without law and order and respect for the intellectual property rights, the growth of the industry will be stifled, which will not help to create jobs. I disagree with you on that point. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 10:11pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
Princek12: lol . . .I didn't bother pointing that out to him. He just won't get it. **whispers** He is kinda slow you see |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Nobody: 10:14pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
ebe like say ocho 5 dey give saga fire for fire abi fool for fool subscribing |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 10:20pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
Princek12: As I said, you have a point. The reality is that any copyright protection enforcement would most likely cost Nigeria loads considering our development stage and will lead to very few making money. Not only Nigerian films will benefit but also Hollywood movies, those will just milk Nigerians. Furthermore, even more advanced countries are losing out on the piracy wars as I can watch anything online. The way government can counter that expense is to increase taxes on the industry, that will still not stop online piracy. Although a slightly increased effort might be appreciated, I don't think the Naija govt is capable. So, mate, it is not a circular argument. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 10:21pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
ocho cinco: You are dumb! It is time you shut up. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 10:23pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
oyb: [flash=400,350] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZrNDBkXIeg[/flash] You know I will just intellectually whack him. He is not in my league. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 10:29pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
Sagamite: WTF IS THIS PIECE OF SHIT |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 10:33pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
Oyb, you see how I have reduced him to insurgency? It is like the Supreme force of the US Army vs Iraqi Insurgents. Dem go beat them chest say impe dem get the intellectual level to match me. All na rhetoric. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 10:42pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
LOL. . . .stop pandering to Oyb. Thats like a child's trick. You have argued in your imperious stupidity to let leeches be in an industry while at the same time pouring money into that same industry. Like Dude. . . . |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 10:52pm On Nov 10, 2010 |
ocho cinco: You are retarded!!! You are what? . . . . . You are retarded!!! Say: Yes Sir! Mugu, the question is very easy: "Now explain to me how if the government splits the funding 6 ways that would "do more harm than good" to the industry as you claimed earlier." |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 12:57am On Nov 11, 2010 |
The fooool has picked race and is doing his insurgency on another thread so I don't whack him to death here. [flash=400,350] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9acMrTVYUw[/flash] |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 8:49am On Nov 11, 2010 |
And all because I pointed out this piece of Ignorance you produced. Sagamite: Guy . . .Its really okay to sound ignorant. Especially as it fits your face so well. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by phreakabit(m): 10:48am On Nov 11, 2010 |
What is GEJ doing at the Silver Bird 30th anniversary watching some bunch of american black chics winning their waist while he's not gone to Benue state to access the damages caused by the recent volcanic eruption? What does these kind of action portrays If he was Yoruba would you ask? Just a question, Even the foreign affairs minister is there with him, instead of putting pressure on the the Iranian embassy to produce the deadly weapon dealer that is hiding in their embassy. What a government? You are spot on, over here! But me thinks we should ask our Northern "Brothers". |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by phreakabit(m): 10:53am On Nov 11, 2010 |
No one really watched British Movies before Four Weddings and a Funeral point of correction, I watch a lot of British MOB movies, I actually think they are somewhat better than the Hollywood stuff. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by aikuda(m): 5:27am On Nov 12, 2010 |
@ocho, I am not sure why you called your grandfather d.umb- ofcourse, you alone will know that. May be you should practice putting your argurment accross instead of resulting to baseless insults and useless rhetorics. Afteral, you start complaing of leadership when you cannot string two sentences without insulting other people. I wonder what company will appreciates such communications skills. Like I said maybe some people should step out NL and do a little research on issues before making ignoramus comments. I don't understand why many Nigerians' first instinct, when confronted with sound and probably superior ideas, is to get confrontational. This topic would have been a good chance for people with good understanding of the issues of nollywood to discuss the issues why others can just may be read and learn something. Like the typical Nigerian system, if we can get our way we destroy everything. God help us if this the generation we hope to rely on in the future. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Kobojunkie: 5:31am On Nov 12, 2010 |
No one really watched British Movies before Four Weddings and a Funeral Who made the above claim? Where?? Who?? |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 6:10am On Nov 12, 2010 |
Kobojunkie: You didn't see who said it from where you quoted it? |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 9:19am On Nov 12, 2010 |
Kobojunkie: lol. . . the ''imperiously intelligent'' Sugomite did. Sagamite: lemme guess. . .you will come with the same question I already addressed before right. lol Come. . .do you know you have an uncanny resemblance to SHREK? Its not a diss or anything o. Just noticed it is all. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by phreakabit(m): 9:52am On Nov 12, 2010 |
do you know you have an uncanny resemblance to SHREK? DAYYYYYUUUUUMMMM and i thought i was the coldest! |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 11:34am On Nov 12, 2010 |
ocho cinco: Why Ocho cinco? Why? Why, slowpoke? Why do you try it? Why come for more? Why keep fighting? Do you think you can ever step to me intellectually? Do you just love being flogged? You love being shown as a slowpoke? Even Kobo would never attempt to hang about for such pain? She knows better and would not dare. She knows her limits. Illusions Ocho cinco!!! Vagaries of perception! The temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose! And all of your likes inevitably fall when I cut your arguments with my super intellect! Although only a slowpoke mind could think he can stand up to Sagamite! You must be able to see it, ocho cinco. You must know it by now! You can't win! Your intellect is below my feet! Why, Ocho cinco? Why? Why do you persist? I am your GOD! [flash=400,350] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIfzyYT1Oho[/flash] |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 12:12pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
Sagamite: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. . . .Is this chap for real? You sound as smart as Soulja Boy trying to rap on Economic theory. I suggest you start brushing up on some British film history rather than post Ogre-wash. Carry On Up the Jungle (1970) will do nicely. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 12:29pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
ocho cinco: STFU or answer my questions. Sagamite: Sagamite: Sagamite: Sagamite: You scared? You don't need to be ashamed in admitting it? You are not the first or only one to be gutted? You want to distract by insulting based on inane rubbish so you can avoid answering? I am not into insulting people, slowpoke. I am into flogging, hammering, slaughtering and ruthlessly gutting them for their STEWPID ARGUMENTS!!! You are better off running because I will finish you off by chopping you into pieces! If you think you are intelligent, if you are sure you are intelligent, answer the questions instead of this your daft arse insurgency. You scared I would intellectually wipe you out? You know some people love watching me showing your type as morons. It is one of their secret schadenfreude fantasies! |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 1:29pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
Sagamite: LOL. . . I thought it all sounded familiar. OMG. You are trying to imitate SAURON aren't you. Its unmistakable. You are a really sorry case. Honestly. No originality at all. If you deny it, I will post this quote in the United section and see what they think. So just shut up and don't deny it okay. ASSWIPE!!!!!!!! Now . . . .Unlike the ridiculous comment you made about British History, you managed to twist my words, but I will still address the questions. To show you how daft you simply are for even thinking you can score cheap points. 1. Dividing the pie six ways: You insist on saying ''dividing six ways''. I suggested this might be one of the ways the dictum of Federal character could play out. But the primary point was, a bureaucracy, whether committee or even a full fledged public body will need to be created to distribute the funds . And it could also play out that each region would create a film body which is a multiplication of bureaucracies. And what do bureaucracies do best. They meddle. They try to justify their existence and in so doing do more harm than good. 2. On Channel Four. Unlike the BBC, funding for Channel Four comes from both Advertising and the Public Purse. Which puts it in a bit of a dilemma. The fact it has to take money from the public purse means it is subject to public scrutiny about its output. So part of its budget must go to programmes that it knows will not make money. Channel 4's biggest franchise the past decade was BIG BROTHER and its Celebrity spin off. Solid, profit making fodder. Because of a racism row, the channel was criticised by Ofcom and the Culture Minister, disregarding the profits the company made from it. The Minister went on to say, "Channel 4 has always been at its strongest when it has closely adhered to its public purpose: innovative, educational, distinctive, and appealing to diverse audiences," This is what a broadcaster with even the tiniest bit of connection to the public purse has to cope with. Now imagine if it was our greedy and I TOO KNOW politicians. 3. And there was no conjecture about GEJ providing funds for films that would lose money. The provision of these funds would most likely be made without regard for whether there is going to be a profit or not. Primarily because there is no incentive to. Nepotism, tribalism and plain old corruption would most likely be the critical factors in determining where the money goes to, and not hardknuckle cost benefit analysis. ITS THE WAY BUSINESS HAS BEEN DONE. DON'T KNOW WHY YOU THINK IT WILL BE ANY DIFFERENT NOW. I do know actually. . .You are dumb. 4. Now on PHCN. You were probably too busy recollecting all the many times your Father called you a slowpoke that you did not consider what I wrote. My introduction of PHCN had to do with your naivete over extra funds not helping a venture. All I did was show you a venture where extra money has simply sucked in more and more money. More money poured into an institution does not equate to improvement. THAT IS ALL. I don't know what your point is about civil servants running PHCN. Or do you mean non - civil servants will administer these funds. Or GEJ will simply hand it from his bedroom to each nollywood producer that catches his fancy? I will echo your father again. . . .slowpoke. 5. Now, on the textile industry and the INTERVENTION FUND to help revive it. The fact it is a dead industry is irrelevant. The point is, the funds are trying to serve thesame purpose. Help an industry that is thought to be ailing. I don't know where you got this idea of a BUOYANT industry. If it was buoyant, why would government decide to intervene at all. You see this is what happens when you try to score cheap points. You take your eyes off the ball. And make moronic statements like No one really watched British Movies before Four Weddings and a Funeral |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 2:14pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
ocho cinco: You are retarded, quote it! Give me another platform to embarass you. There is no one like Sagamite! ocho cinco: Cheap points? I am your God FFS! ocho cinco: You are retarded!!! You are what? . . . . . You are retarded!!! Say: Yes Sir! You still struggle to answer the question, foooooooooooooool! Explain to me, FOOOOOL, how the bureaucracy will retrograde the industry? How will a film-maker that had limited access to funds before's ability to make a film diminish NOW he has access to money but which is attached to bureaucracy? Is he better off not having access to the EXTRA money at all, RETARD, slowpoke! "Little money" is better than loads of "bureaucratic money" PLUS the "Little money"? How will the bureaucratic money diminish the success he already has with little money? ocho cinco: You are retarded!!! You are what? . . . . . You are retarded!!! Say: Yes Sir! Explain to me which programmes Channel 4 had had to do that do not attract advertisers!!! Fooool, which TV executives irrespective of public responsibilities will allow their subordinates to create programmes they know advertisers will shun? Fooool, maybe that might happen at the level you operate at e.g. NTA, but not in an advanced country. Try and explain you moronic argumentation again, that was not good enough. You will get some thumping! ocho cinco: You are retarded!!! You are what? . . . . . You are retarded!!! Say: Yes Sir! You are guessing You are using conjectures for me? You know they will not do a cost-benefit analysis? ocho cinco: You are retarded!!! You are what? . . . . . You are retarded!!! Say: Yes Sir! You want to make an analogy and you moronically decide to make a comparison between a failed, govt-run, govt-dependent, govt-funded institution with a successful, private-run, privately-funded, independent, access to govt grant industry AFTER I clearly stated before that that the reason it would not be a problem is that govt only provides a grant but will not have a say in the running of the film productions. Say: "I am a born morn, I am sorry God Sagamite."! ocho cinco: You are retarded!!! You are what? . . . . . You are retarded!!! Say: Yes Sir! How does the fact that an industry is dead not be relevant when you are comparing a successful industry getting extra funds to succeed when your comparison is based on a retarded view that the extra funds will only lead to retrogression of the success? Retard!!! You are saying the Nigerian film industry is not bouyant? Fooooooooooool! So if something is successful the govt can not support it to improve it? You are really daft. You are a slowpoke! Govt's can support success to MAINTAIN IT or to IMPROVE IT to be one of the best especially when there are a lot of grounds for improvement, you RETARD!!! Which schools failed you to the point your reasoning is so dead? ocho cinco: RETARD, I quote again: You did not see the beginnng line in the link (1990s) that said: "With Eady gone many studios closed or focused on television work, film production in the UK hit one of its all-time lows in 1989. While cinema audiences were climbing in the UK in the early 1990s, few British films were enjoying significant commercial success, even in the home market." You are too retarded to comprehend that? If the home market is not keen on their films, so who abroad would be so keen? You are dumb! Come back here for more bashing. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 3:06pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
Lol . . . .Like seriously. Are you are a mental patient. Your father must have been very proficient with the Koboko. Its a shame it didn't do much good. What's with the repeated recitations. You don't have to prove your Koranic school credentials. Jeez. Now. . .back to the issue at hand. On buoyancy of Nollywood. The following will do
http://www.ghanatouristvillas.com/news2/4752/4/hard-times-hit-nollywood.html I have other links: http://www.nigeriamovies.net/news/news16.php (Headline: Nollywood is in Trouble- KANAYO O. KANAYO) |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 3:18pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
Now. . .Pertaining to this quote you posted here. You did not see the beginnng line in the link (1990s) that said: "With Eady gone many studios closed or focused on television work, film production in the UK hit one of its all-time lows in 1989. While cinema audiences were climbing in the UK in the early 1990s, few British films were enjoying significant commercial success, even in the home market." Remember your contribution was that Public intervention helped to buoy the industry after it fell into hard times in 1989. And remember you also said FILM4 was an arm of CHANNEL 4 a public institution. So Intervention by FILM4 can be inferred as Public Intervention. And you also said Four Weddings and A Funeral was the first time people started watching British Films. A film that was produced by FILM4. Proof for you that public intervention helped the industry. BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR ARGUMENT. FILM4 WAS SET UP IN 1982. WELL BEFORE THE CRASH OF THE FILM INDUSTRY IN 1989. SO PUBLIC INTERVENTION DID NOT SAVE THE INDUSTRY FROM CRASHING IN 1989 IF WE ARE TO FOLLOW YOUR LINE OF THOUGHT. And I will also add that the BBC has been involved in Film Production as far back as the 1950's when it bought Ealing Studios, the studio responsible for famous films like PASSPORT TO PIMLICO, THE LADYKILLERS etc. So Public Intervention was there when the FILM INDUSTRY CRASHED IN 1989. IT COULD NOT STOP IT. YOU FOLLOW. . . . . |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 3:22pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
ocho cinco: You are retarded!!! You are what? . . . . . You are retarded!!! Say: Yes Sir! So after I destroy all your 5 points, this is all you could come up with? You could only retain claim to one point, slowpoke? Let me first let you digest that before I reap into this!!! Come back here and defend your 4 other points before I cut you into shreds with the info you just provided. There is only one outcome when you challenge me intellectually: Gut, cut and dice! [Seun, where the f is the King emoticon?] I await the foooool! |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 3:26pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
Sagamite: LOL, . . .This is so lame. Childish to be honest. I am getting to each point one by one. |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 3:28pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
ocho cinco: You are retarded!!! You are what? . . . . . You are retarded!!! Say: Yes Sir! Where did I say Four Wedding and a funeral is the first time people started watching UK films? You want to use conjectures on me, slowpoke? That is by the way. Your retarded challenge was that you did not agree that British films where on a decline before the success of Four Weddings? Now you want to change the argument and strawman me? You are dumb! Admit you are retarded for disputing a fact I gave you before I progress and hang you with the asinine gibberish you put up here. I am going to fking choke you with it, you asinine goat! |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by Sagamite(m): 3:29pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
ocho cinco: Get there, fooool. Get there! I am going to gut you, I am going to cut you and I am going to dice you! You are in for an intellectually humiliating day . . . . . [flash=400,350] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU[/flash] |
Re: GEJ At Silver Bird Anniversary! by ochocinco1(m): 3:34pm On Nov 12, 2010 |
Now. . . .You said my analogy using the textile industry was not apt based on your contention that Nollywood was buoyant. But I just gave you a link from an industry insider who clearly said ''NOLLYWOOD IS IN TROUBLE''. So your objection is overruled. And we can thus use the TEXTILE INDUSTRY intervention as a template for predicting the performance of this intervention right? |
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