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even if you were to bring proof >>> i would find this hard to believe because a 'proof' can be misinterpreted >>> why do you picket the lot of Christ Embassy only ?

@post
Becos they have a culture of roguery and their CEO encourages them to bring money to him at all cost, be it thru stealing, fraud, lies, deceit or pros.titution. All that matters is the money cos they serve a hungry mamon god.

@post
Becos they have a culture of roguery and their CEO encourages them to bring money to him at all cost, be it thru stealing, fraud, lies, deceit or pros.titution. All that matters is the money cos they serve a hungry mamon god.

yes kunle. Their god is really a mammon god. This christ embassy members tend to copy their pastor in all what he do. You see most of them as poor as they are, they try buying bigger suit like their pastors. In fact i noticed their pastor chris has turned the church to a family business, every of his family members term theirselves as pastors. The church members worship their pastor, they always use the term my Pastor said, this my pastor said that, i love the god of my pastor, my pastor god is great. Bla bla bla.

Uyi Iredia:

even if you were to bring proof >>> i would find this hard to believe because a 'proof' can be misinterpreted >>> why do you picket the lot of Christ Embassy only ?

you will find it hard to believe because you have been blinded by them.
I dont single handedly pick the lot of christ embassy. It seems you are new to this section if not you would have been reading my post. Let me tell you i see the truth and speak it, am not in those kind of religion delusions

They believe that their pastor is all knowing and infallible, that's why they usually say 'my pastor said this and that'

KunleOshob:

@post
Becos they have a culture of roguery and their CEO encourages them to bring money to him at all cost, be it thru stealing, fraud, lies, deceit or pros.titution. All that matters is the money cos they serve a hungry mamon god.

are you serious about the part i highligted in red do have any proof that they will go that far just to give the church money.

Ymodulus:

you will find it hard to believe because you have been blinded by them.   *1
I dont single handedly pick the lot of christ embassy. *2 It seems you are new to this section if not you would have been reading my post. Let me tell you i see the truth and speak it, am not in those kind of  religion delusions *3

*1 >>> how have i been 'blinded' ( ) ? BTW i'm not a CE member

*2 >>> okay. my mistake

*3 >>> any deluded person can say that 

Point of correction , Christ embassy members are not scammers and rogues as you term it . They are very different from what you want to paint them as. Can you bring evidence to the fact that they prostitute for money? It does not surprise me a bit that you guys will try all u can to say what u want after all u seem to be expressing yourselves and its free.
One thing to note is the fact that even if one person does a mistake does it mean all have done it? SHOW ME A PERFECT CONGREGATION and i will be happy for you.It really is sickening to see that u always are quick to 'rant' or generalise(as they say in the military 'BLANKET') everyone for the wrong done. As serious as u want to sound , i point out to u that its wrong to generalise issues when identifying a situation. WAKE UP BRO,

Ymodulus:

Pls i need answer to this question. Today its either they are lieing, stealing millions of naira like their pastor, supporting their pastor in  is illicit deeds, introducing a money making strategy. In fact they are full of bad behaviours.

Now i know why you are still as poor as u are and if care is not taken u might end up as a poor dardar, 

Ymodulus:

you will find it hard to believe because you have been blinded by them.
I dont single handedly pick the lot of christ embassy. It seems you are new to this section if not you would have been reading my post. Let me tell you i see the truth and speak it, am not in those kind of religion delusions

You dont even know what you are saying, i can see you are dieing of envy and hanger, if u dont like CEC then leave it to those that likes it, or How do you know u are now God that want to judge His church.

Make you no go die with heart attack oh,  Because Christ Emassy has not started yet,  Untill the whole world is completly save CEC will not stop manifesting God's fullness,

hmmsssses,  My Guy, if you won die, make you die, God still have enough moimoi for US, 

Come to think of it, Our lord never had  perfect brethren here on earth cos JUDAS was amongst them . Does that generally means all of the DISCIPLES sell their conscience and are evil? NO, because u do not cast everyone due to what went wrong. Do people say that all who hail from the  NIGER DELTA are all MILITANTS due to what a few have done? NEVER , cos we still have  people that do not take up arms to resolve matters but are calm. Generalising issues that way does not make u any better as mistakes are bound to happen or occur. BE OBJECTIVE in whatever u post or say.

Uyi Iredia:

even if you were to bring proof >>> i would find this hard to believe because a 'proof' can be misinterpreted >>> why do you picket the lot of Christ Embassy only ?

It's simply because of the positive impact of the ministry worldwide. Satan is mad. When people do something wrong nobody mentions their churches , but if it's CEC. member , they will call press conference! You don't judge a minister by what a member did . Especially if it's contrary to what the minister teaches . But a lot of things said about CEC hear are lies from thesame malicious sources. Just imagine how can a christian prosti.tute  just to give money to God . What is the source of such terrible information. We are rather getting prostitutes into salvation through the inner city reach out arm of the ministry. We train them up in skills and empowered them financially to become responsible people.because you can't win a prost.titute effectively without giving them a new job. Even if they give their lives to christ , if theirs no source of income , they may be tempted to do what they left behind. The ministry is making undeniable great impact. And it's making the devil restless.

KunleOshob:

@post
Becos they have a culture of roguery and their CEO encourages them to bring money to him at all cost, be it thru stealing, fraud, lies, deceit or pros.titution. All that matters is the money cos they serve a hungry mamon god.

OldOshobi,  Just a word for you, 'A fool at 40, is a fool forever', look at what you have achieved in life with the truth you said you are preaching and look at what Christ Embassy has done. Eyes have seen and everyone can testify to it.

What? i mean What have you done to change life in your generation that your children can testify to?

Like i said about you, your types are really a point to pal up with. U're still an old Gallon that is seeking public attention.

But like you know, you are always a failure, failure shall you be,  AMEN!

Hmmmm Nigerian so called Born Again Christians, so many of them
are fake, 99.99% of them, .If acting like Jesus was a crime their would
not be enough Evidence on 99.99% of so called Nigerian Born Again
Christians to convict them!!! 

just yestarday my heart went for God's people how that we need to pray. and today they have risen up to lie against the church of christ, now that christ embassy people are successfull people, because if is only successful people that people talk about the way you ymodulus and kunleoshob do, well i must warn you, you cant go far with this and you most repent of this.

If this is how u guys are taught in ce, then i must say i am sorry for your type of christianity. U are indeed exhibiting traits typical of ce members.

@Deejay 20, maybe you should just leave this thread for those that can interact sensibly!

@Kunleoshobi,

KunleOshob:

Becos they have a culture of roguery and their CEO encourages them to bring money to him at all cost, be it thru stealing, fraud, lies, deceit or pros.titution. All that matters is the money cos they serve a hungry mamon god.

But you are supposed to be learned now
why do you attach so much nonsense to christ embassy in the hope of creating a false image. Well, you have lost it again.
CE does not have a culture of the lie you stated above, for the fact that a pastor has thieves in his church, doe it make him a thief or for the fact that he has ill mannered people as part of his congregation, does it mean he is ill mannered or that he sends them out
common man! Paul did not have the best of congregation
Even Jesus had Judas among his top disciples knowing fully well the kind of person judas was
Everybody, no matter the background or xter is entitled to Jesus and the church, that is the reason for His death anyway.
The church is not for perfect saints but for perfecting the saints for the work ahead

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:12-13 (KJV)

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:12-13 (KJV)

when will all these nasty stuff/obsession about christ embassy here and there end?
Pple keep attacking CEC online yet the church keeps growing day by day. If u have any case to prove against CEC pls take it to appropriate authorities in Nigeria. Afterall the hq of the chr is right here in Lagos & Pastor is always around. pls save us this crap. lm a theist but not a member of CEC. my assembly is not too far off CEC in oregun Ikeja Lagos. Each time i drive pass its(church) location, i marvel at God's glory in the life of the man with what i see with my eyes. If they've scammed anyone, pls go to EFCC and save the waste of space. U keep criticising someone and same keeps growing. That could only mean something. We have laws in Nigeria, anyone who violates should be punished. shikena. l beg e don do

Rev king had his diehard followers who support him till this day, while he is in prison. Likewise pastor/rev chris, ppl especially deluded ones, as a function are reluctant to look beyond themselves. Hunger and poverty are the key reasons why nigerians flock to ce. The search for hope to overcome the troubles of a third world country. A cureall! A poster prayed for failure for his fellow man! No one cares for virtues but on money and more money and it qualifies as result and progress. So ibb is by implication god's own.

toba:

when will all these nasty stuff/obsession about christ embassy here and there end?

Toba , ask them o. It is said that if you heal the sick and cast out devils, Satan will stir false acusation against you. So all these junks of theirs is only a proof that CEC. Is Gods vision. Satanist and religious guys are becoming very restless.

Luke 4:24
24 And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

John 15:18-21
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before[ it hated] you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

It is only foolish people that will make such baseless and unprincipled statements like the obnorcious rendering of the lines of the thread. Every wise person who is not bias by reason of sentiments will effortlessly agree that these things do happen but are not an exclusive preserve for Christis Embassy, they happen almost in every sphere of our everyday lives especially when we put in perspective the fact that the beings in churches are no different from the human beings that make up the larger society and that the church is an avenue for change one thats a "PROCESS". The percentage of occurrance of these things are credited to a minority few of whom the bible calls " FALSE BRETHREN"
2 Corinthians 11:26
"In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of rubbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren"
Now there is no suggestion that the expression "False Brethren" refered to the jews, because he had already used another expression for them ", mine own countrymen", so who were these false brethren- these were members of the fold who have not summited their faculties to the all-encompassing influence of the dictate of the word of God choosing rather to live by the suggestion of their untamed senses and greed, these were canal believers. Hence we are warned by the apostle paul "BEWARE OF DOGS"
Like l said these kind of christians are everywhere bringing and creating wrong and bad impressions about the church they attend and to the faith at large. But permit me to mention that it is unwise to paint the whole black because of the wrong of a minority few, otherwise for the wrong of "christians" in society who cheat and dupe we all including you (that is if you are a christian) should gladly accept that we are all thiefs and rubbers. Consequently, l would suggest that the reading of this thread be paraphrased, reconstructed or outrightly changed for directly such implicating and misguided statements about Christ Embassy and proceeding further to brand my Pastor wrongly. So Mr. Ymodulus ARRANGE YOURSELF ORELSE I'LL CONSIDER THIS A REPORT TO THE MODERATOR. NONESENSE!

toba:

when will all these nasty stuff/obsession about christ embassy here and there end?
Pple keep attacking CEC online yet the church keeps growing day by day. If u have any case to prove against CEC pls take it to appropriate authorities in Nigeria. Afterall the hq of the chr is right here in Lagos & Pastor is always around. pls save us this crap. lm a theist but not a member of CEC. my assembly is not too far off CEC in oregun Ikeja Lagos. Each time i drive pass its(church) location, i marvel at God's glory in the life of the man with what i see with my eyes. If they've scammed anyone, pls go to EFCC and save the waste of space. U keep criticising someone and same keeps growing. That could only mean something. We have laws in Nigeria, anyone who violates should be punished. shikena. l beg e don do

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took it right out of my mouth but the truth is this criticism will never end because Rev Chris and his ministry keeps getting larger and larger and larger by the minuite.
Infact more nonsense will come up

Make ona no make me talk o, i grew up in all this so holy churches o. Christ embassy, christ embassy, wetin sef. Anyway i love the body of christ, what affect the next denomination affects me too, so i close my mouth. The world has not seen anything yet, we are taking the world for Jesus christ. This is just the begining. Until the whole earth is covered with the glory of our God. Come lord JESUS.

@nuell2
u cant take d world for Jesus. Being a friend to the world is being in enmity with God. Jesus is coming for few people (spotless) and not the multitude u want to win for Christ

nuella2:

Make ona no make me talk o, i grew up in all this so holy churches o. Christ embassy, christ embassy, wetin sef. Anyway i love the body of christ, what affect the next denomination affects me too, so i close my mouth. The world has not seen anything yet, we are taking the world for Jesus christ. This is just the begining. Until the whole earth is covered with the glory of our God. Come lord JESUS.

Fire down sister them no re-a-ch make them sit-don-dey-look

free123:

@nuell2
u cant take d world for Jesus. Being a friend to the world is being in enmity with God. Jesus is coming for few people (spotless)  and not the multitude u want to win for Christ

very interesting

num 1.Jesus is coming for the church not for a few people {Ephesians 5:27}
num 2.remember the great commission in mark 16:15 [go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature}

@Azibalua
narrow is the way that leads to eternal life, few are found in it but wide and broad is the way that leads to eternal condemnation and many, i mean multitude are found it.
Keep treasuring and making friend with the world claiming u are bringing the world to Christ.

Its surprising at ow people think! can we do things right in naija? CE members would fight u to any lenght when u raise any issues abt CEC. Yet they condemn jihad they are guilty of . They would judge u and then quotes bible where it says u shud leave judgement to God! They would justify why the whole world should be saved even when bible points it out that few are the people on the path to heaven. I read in the dailies the other day and got some confirmation from CE members that, worshippers were charged N1000 gate fee all in the name of crowd control for watch night service!!!!! Our pastors shudnt be our God. It doesn't mean because they are pastors doesn't mean there shudnt be checks and control. The bible says " for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" it says also that " all OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS is LIKE a filthy RAG" why then do we think our pastors are not proned to errors! The only gods we have on earth are our parents says the bible so, when our pastors are making mistakes, we shud point it out and correct them and not defend them like what average CE members would do. May the LORD set our eyes on the path of light and righteousness. Cheers

free123:

@Azibalua
narrow is the way that leads to eternal life, few are found in it but wide and broad is the way that leads to eternal condemnation and many, i mean multitude are found it.
Keep treasuring and making friend with the world claiming u are bringing the world to Christ.

What kind of bible do you read, at least my dear it should have a space for John 3:16
"For God so LOVED the WORLD that he gave HIS only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life"
Can you see that God loved the world thus necessitating the coming of Jesus to die for the sins of men and don't be quick yo say oh well it says " God so loved" thats in the past no that love hasn't change how because he said in Mark 16:15 "go into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"
Then the apostle Paul tells us how that we as christians have been called to the ministry of reconciliation, I.e reconciling men to God in Christ Jesus through the preaching of the gospel just in like manner that we ourselves have been reconciled to our essence.

Finally if God so loved and still loves the world because of the presence of the church which is the salt (preservtive) of the earth otherwise a worse destruction than that of sodom and gomorah would have taken place. The love we have for the world is different from that spoken of by the aposple John
1John 2:15
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of thr world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever"
If God loves the world then are have no choice but to love the world but problem you have is that of understanding. How can you interceed for dying world in dear need of a loving God without love, how can you preach to a perishing world the gospel of their salvation without love
Romans 1:16
"For l am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to EVERYONE that believeth; to the Jews first, and also to the Greek"

1 Corinthians 13:1-8 (love is the most excellent way)
1 John 4:16
" And we know and believed the love that God hath to us, God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him"

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Leave Oyaks alone oh! I don warn una, Flie wey no dey hear word go follow dead body go inside the grave, in this case you go follow Oyaks do fine boy/Fine girl as the case maybe.