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Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 2:16pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
brocab: I will leave you to check the quote yourself. As for the many paragraphs of bigoted anti catholic rant and incorrect propaganda I don't think it is worthy of a dignified reply from ANY Christian! 1 Like |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Nobody: 10:44pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
KoloOyinbo: U're too enlightened to be exchanging words with ignorant hate-consumed lunatics. U dignify them with ur response. Quit it. If such lunatic tales make them sleep better at night, then leave them to it. The right to freedom of expression does not guarantee d right to be taken seriously. Meanwhile, there's a thread in d religion section on d Kalam cosmological argument, d Big Bang, God, time, space, matter, evolution, etc. Would like ur contributions there. If u're interested, would give u d link. I'm not contributing there doh, just reading comments for now. Leave these lunatics to wankk to their conspiracy theories |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 11:09pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
People seem to be afraid hearing the truth about the cruelty the Catholic Church acted upon the innocent, I do understand you haven't got the answer, I believe no-one has, and I don't believe any man woman can pull of a stunt like this, without the help of Satan himself. So we must wonder who's controlling the Catholic Church, obliviously Not God the Father in Heaven. Get with the program Mr KoloOyinbo. Christ is the only way. And to receive Christ one must be born again and baptised with the Holy Spirit, by choice. Mark 16:16, "He who believes and is baptised will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. So you see, how does a new born baby believe. Acts 8:36-37, Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, "See here is water. What hinders me from being baptised? Then Philip said, 'If you believe with all your heart, you may," And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And again how does a new born baby believe with all his heart and make a choice to be baptised? Does the Church preach on the truth Mr KoloOyinbo. Are Catholic's really saved? Acts 2:38,"Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let everyone of you be Baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. How does a new born baby know about the remissions of sins, Mr KoloOyinbo? I expect I won't here from you on this topic, like many other topic's I have written to you Mr KoloOyinbo, if you are back to back with different denominations, then at least know, why you are backing them. You claim you are a born again Christian, then start reading and be narrow minded and get strong with the word. Your not helping when you are trying to be some kind of a peace maker Mr KoloOyinbo Stop being a pussy, be that bigot; stand strong in word don't let their secret societies control you, these other religions are only made to draw people away from the truth. If your not sure ask them about baptism, and follow it up with the bible, you will see there's a difference in the truth. Break free and come follow after Christ. Don't listen to them, speak up and believe, Help these people don't let them go to Hell, we need them, to know the truth in Christ. We need all the support to help stop this war against Christians. KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 11:17pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
So you are without sin? ChokolateBoss: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 11:20pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
ChokolateBoss: This sounds interesting. Yes, please do forward me the link. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 11:22pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
brocab: Every quote you use can be interpreted in many ways. To use them in the manner you have done is quite reprehensible. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 11:46pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Yes as you keep on repeating yourself they can be interpreted different ways, but you haven't showing me any other way? And you come across with these big words, but you don't stand strong with these words you write. Interpret why the Catholic's believe in baby baptism-when in the bible it clearly says one must be baptised by choice? Interpreted How is a baby saved, when he/she don't understand the terms on remissions of sin. This will be interesting. KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 12:01am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Yes follow after them, they can only take you further on the highways, then you already are. Shame another one bites the dust, good luck on your trip. Choc'o will deliver all your needs. I have looked up the Kalam cosmological argument. And all about the flesh. Nothing spiritual. KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 12:04am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Don't you like the truth in Christ- ChokolateBoss: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Nobody: 12:15am On Apr 15, 2015 |
KoloOyinbo: Here it is https://www.nairaland.com/2191376/kalam-cosmological-argument |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 12:31am On Apr 15, 2015 |
brocab: Follow after who? You make too many presumptions without adequate thought. I see an interesting thread I want to look at it. I may agree or disagree. Don't know until I look (obviously). You really do need to learn, not just about Christianity, but also about how to think logically! Perhaps if you were less intent on arguing and criticising everybody and everything else you might actually learn something. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 12:42am On Apr 15, 2015 |
brocab: Baby baptism is SYMBOLIC! I don't actually agree but it is valid. There are other different interpretations of Baptism - Total Immersion versus sprinkling. BOTH have valid justification and adherents. This silly idea of only one denomination being correct is something that really does inhibit your attempts at thinking. Now having shown (yet again I might add) how there are differing interpretations - all of which are valid Christian points of view - I am a bit amazed at your continued lack of understanding. I suspect it is because you simply don't want to understand. Contrast also the Calvinist Doctrine of the Elect with the wider Christian view of free will. Contrast Presbyterian Church structure with say Methodism or Anglicanism. MANY differing interpretations. If you know of only one then your knowledge of Christianity must be very limited indeed. I wonder about the area you are in? A good academic book on comparative religions would be useful in that it would give an idea of some of the differing points of view within Christianity itself. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 12:51am On Apr 15, 2015 |
I have look into the Kalam cosmological argument, its all about how we think in the flesh-God's word is Spirit. KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 1:16am On Apr 15, 2015 |
brocab: There was quite a lot of stuff there and as usual the thread breaks up into many different (although related) arguments. While I agree with the conclusion of a personal Creator of the Universe (God) the argument is logically flawed and inconsistent within itself. Also if we COULD prove Gods existence it then makes a mockery of "through FAITH ALONE" as faith is unnecessary in the face of a valid proof. I have heard other similar arguments but not under this term 'Kalam'. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 1:29am On Apr 15, 2015 |
I have search and studied with the best, of religions-Catholic's Jw's Morons, Presbyterian's and others who claim to know Christ, but fail to recognize the importance in truth and in word. So without someone not having any intelligence theirs only One God and One Lord and savour, and One Baptism.. As I said, I have looked into the Kalam cosmological argument, and its about you in the flesh. So knock yourself out, find the truth in Christ, you may find actual truth, pray before you enter in-I was once like you, and I went to and fro seeking the truth in Christ, and I wrote notes, on differences of different denominations, and yes it was interesting, but I found their interest was without the Holy Spirit of God. They said they had the Spirit but refused His power. KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 1:51am On Apr 15, 2015 |
When people try to prove if God really exist-are barking up the wrong tree, everyone's looking for answers, never coming to the knowledge of the truth, always looking for a image, and yet God stands right there before you. The bible clearly say's in 1 John 4:7, beloved let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. No-one has seen God at any time, because God is Love, and when we Love one another God abides in us. And Love was from the beginning that exist with a cause. John 14:7, "If you had known Me you have known the Father also. Of course God knew the tricky of the Devil, and how one will try to twist and turn man's thinking patterns. Mr KoloOyinbo stop looking, just smile. And the evidence was found with Jesus, many times over-Have you ever heard of the Spear of Destiny, it was the Spear that pierced into Jesus's side.. It's finding the truth that frightens many, if God don't exist we don't either. God had made a beginning for a cause so one can exist-This is the Kalam cosmological argument faery. KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 9:36am On Apr 15, 2015 |
brocab: I suspect you need to return to those studies to gain UNDERSTANDING of those various points of view. As for the Kalam argument. I have stated my position. It is fatally flawed from the first premise onwards and self contradictory. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 10:48am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Maybe if you weren't so closed into your self-then let me hear it from you about the essence of God. But I ask, will you use bible scriptures to back up your faery's, so one can study. And inform me what bibles you are choosing to use, so word will back up word. KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 7:38pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
brocab: What are you talking about here? More ramblings? Hear what from you? I have little interest in educating you about the scripture about the essence of God from thousands of miles away and over the internet. You have shown a complete inability to understand even the basic ideas of Christianity and are more interested in confrontational arguing than actually learning! As for which translation of the Bible I keep five at home but have online access to most. Due to the fact that the KJV (despite its accuracy of translation) is in English as it was used hundreds of years ago so that it is not the same as English used today, I would use a KJV for cross reference only and when quoting (especially to those unused to how words change their meanings over time) would prefer an NIV or perhaps an ASV. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Aizenosa(m): 8:33pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
After 2000 years+ d church still stands and it still gets filled up each day with people wanting to get closer to God and people witnessing the true love of God daily. Anyway all people do is talk and keep talking, but sincerely its so funny because all dese lies have been foretold right from d beginning, u all here shout bible dis, bible dat, u fail to even understand d texts of d bible u all shout and yet u keep condemning and ranting lies of all sorts, we all have been given knowledge, use it to help ur ignorance and stop condemning, why u may ask me and d answer is because u don't know God d way u think. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 12:53am On Apr 16, 2015 |
So what you are saying You don't know the word of God? And from thousands of miles away you couldn't show me on the internet any of your teachings, and yet you are willing to bad mouth me FROM SUCH ALONG WAY on the net. Get back in the program Mr KoloOyinbo. Are you tuned in? You don't know the word of God-do you Mr KoloOyinbo-You are full of hot air, you are trying to convince yourself you have intelligence. Anyone who has no knowledge in the word of God, has dead works. You are quite funny, you mouth off to me on the net, you haven't any knowledge in the bible, just a few scriptures you have pulled out of a hat, you don't seem to understand the meanings to any of them, you say you are learning bible knowledge, but then you say I am the last person you will show your knowledge too> KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 1:34am On Apr 16, 2015 |
brocab: Exactly when or where did I say I did not know the word of God? Will you stop putting your own ignorant and ill informed ideas into the mouth of others. Can you even READ? You know very little of Christianity. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 2:42am On Apr 16, 2015 |
I tell you exactly when you don't produce the word of God, in any of our Quotes. You just mouth off, saying you are Christian without showing any evidence, in word or in truth. Every time I have asked you to write scriptures, you ignore my asking, most times you come back saying you wouldn't bother writing bible scriptures to me. And yet you would rather mock me on the net, telling me I am not a Christian and I don't know the meaning to even be one? You are a great mocker Mr KoloOyinbo- and I am sure your reward will return to you. In the other hand I have tried to give you the bible and you have refused accepting my giving. I have read what you write with others on this forum, and still you show no evidence you study any words written in the bible. Have a good day KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 11:49am On Apr 17, 2015 |
brocab: Every time I have written scripture you have misinterpreted it! For example "My fathers house has many mansions"! You only hear what you want to hear. I have said much of your actions are unchristian BUT never called you unchristian as you have with me! You do not know much about scripture or indeed how Christianity is worshiped across the world so really don't have too much to say! |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 12:35am On Apr 18, 2015 |
And what does it mean to you when it says John 14:2 In My Fathers house are many mansions' If it were not so, I would have told you, I go to prepare a place for you, "And if I go and prepare a place for you. I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am there you maybe also. The word for mansion" is 'monay" it means a dwelling, an abode. Jesus is telling us that heaven has compartments, In the ancient culture, a fathers house was where the extended family lived. Rooms were often added as the family grew, from birth to marriage. Jesus was using the present day illustration of a loving tight family community.. So Christ is saying that He is preparing a place for us in heaven, where we will dwell with God in close communion with Him, and that there is room in Heaven for all whom God calls for salvation. Many Catholic's {including the Priest & Bishops} in the spirit of "ecumeuism" {Meaning the desire and work for greater unity among Christian denominations} Quoted this biblical verse in John 14:2 is imply that salvation stretches out to all religions no matter what its followers believe in. Have you not heard we are the temples of the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. So I can see where you received you info from when you say the many mansions are many religious denominations here on earth. Wrong again my friend-Jesus said: one must be born again before having any part in these mansions in heaven. Think before you give me any scriptures, what the true meanings are-read between the lines Mr KoloOyinbo-Open your bible-and understand what Jesus is saying, One must be born again. Catholic's are not classed as born again in child birth. JESUS SAID ONE MUST BE BORN AGAIN BY CHOICE. You had written it to say, you believe its about different denominations here on earth, different Churches>The Lord said: My Father house has many mansion> He is preparing these mansions for us in Heaven. Yes you have called me unChristian every time you say I have no-idea how to be a Christian. {Meaning un Christian}. Open your eye's>"Quote You do not know much about scripture" or indeed how Christianity is worshipped across the world. I don't need to know about how other religions around the world, how one must worship, I am a born again Christian, and my goal is to worship my God and Him shall I only worship..One God-One Lord, One baptism. There is no-other way into heaven My KoloOinbo only through Him Jesus Christ is Lord. . KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 7:35pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
brocab: Many mansions means there are different strands of thought within the one overall truth. As for the rabid and barely coherent anti catholic rant, I understand your attitude being coloured by a bad upbringing and experience at the hand of some bad people (for which you deserve pity) but it does NOT excuse such unchristian behaviour. I think that is the best response to the ramblings. Many denominations will get into Heaven and ALL through Jesus! You really do need some formal education to be able to think clearly. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 8:15pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
Quote>Many mansions don't mean anything of the sort--there is many rooms in the kingdom of heaven-there is not different standards of thought in one overall truth. Who's teaching you, this rubbish? One God-One Lord-One Spirit who teaches us all-we all have different gifts in the body of Christ, some pastors, some evangelist, some teachers etc in the word, but all filled with the Holy Spirit-all born again believers Mr KoloOyinbo. Those who are born again Mr KoloOyinbo, will inherit the Kingdom of heaven, theirs no other way "Jesus had stated that Himself"...One must be born again, if he/she is seeking the kingdom of God, daily doing the right thing, I'm sure they will inherit the kingdom. The many denominational's if they are born again, as Jesus told them to do, read your bible-one must be born again, Jesus kept on repeating Himself one must be born again, before entering the kingdom of heaven..... I don't want your pity Mr KoloOyinbo not for me alone but millions of young children need you to rejoice with us, we made it through. But pity those who didn't make it thought, your Church succeeded to destroy them. Pray if you have a heart, for their love ones left behind, who have suffered thought this ordeal.. I am not anti Catholic Mr KoloOyinbo0 as I said: if you read back, no one could pull of a stunt like this-without the help of Satan himself... Meaning to say these Catholic priest and nuns were demon possessed. I don't hate Catholic's, they were following orders from the top, and many took it further, taken a young child's life into their own hands. Like the Romans said to the Jews, I leave the blood on your hands, and they suffered since. As sad as this sounds, it wouldn't be such a big deal, because this sort of behaviour happens all over the world, Children going missing, rapes, child porn, ect, but no-one suspected this sort of behaviour can come out of the Church of God. It worked until someone had stood against the Church, and spoke the truth out in the open. I'm sure if each of these men and women don't repent, they will have their own rewards... Are you still mocking me Mr KoloOyinbo, you still believe I am a uneducated unChristian, because your right and the bible's wrong in word and in truth? Are you having trouble Mr KoloOyinbo, ask the Spirit of God, to show you theirs no-other way into heaven. ONE MUST BE BORN AGAIN But if you can prove to me, Mr KoloOyinbo, their is another way into heaven in scripture, without being a born again believer-then that makes you God-and the bible wasn't written because of Jesus, it was written in your name. Amen KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 9:06pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
brocab: REALLY - so in you tiny fundamentalist mind Christ came to die for our sins and tell us that - "Heaven is a BIG place with lots of rooms" Just like a hotel and I wonder if the rooms have en suite bathrooms! Do you see how silly Fundamentalism is? This is why I don't like to debate scripture with ANY fundamentalist. I basically have to spend a lot of my time typing a lot to people who have neither the intelligence, the knowledge or the inclination to learn or even THINK! Like I say, I pity you for your upbringing and did not even bother to read you unchristian comments regarding Catholics (they will have a better chance at salvation than you if you keep this attitude up). You will answer to Christ for your comments and explain why YOU decided they would go to hell rather than that being the Lord decision! I guess all your ideas are 'self taught'! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 9:30pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
You need to read John 14-2 and even in that it say's rooms, but hey lets go to heaven your way, we will all sneak in the back door. You don't believe" Christ died so we can all live, theirs rules. Brain dead you are and brain dead you will stay, until you seek the truth in Christ. Religious you are. Pretty strange for someone who say's they have intelligences, and yet you don't seem to know anything. Not in word. But hey its been fun writing, even Thur I am wasting my time, with an uneducated human being. I suppose I have stayed on because you are fun to write too, and silly. I love it when people say they are Christians and don't know the word of God, like you don't Mr KoloOyinbo, when you say, you now refuse to talk to a fundamentalist minded person, you make a lot of excuses everytime, only because you have little understanding in the word of God. Don't worry about it Mr KoloOyinbo we were all once like you-and it was the Holy Spirit who taught us with the help of others in Christ, I can help teach you, with the help of the Holy Spirit. But first it would be nice if I knew you had turned your life over to the Lord hole hearted, so ones teaching will be a spree. Think about it, if you don't want to learn on this forum we can find other sources to connect.. I am willing, to help bring you closer to Christ, with the help of God of cause. KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 9:54pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
Don't you like the word of God-is my attitude over the top for you Mr KoloOyinbo, to much info. Religion does this to a man, it breaks them down, to the point having no understanding in word and truth. I don't hate you Mr KoloOyinbo your silly attitudes are a bit over the top at times, but hey, It would be asking to much from you' to retrieve any bible knowledge. Opp's I forgot you know very little. As I said I don't need your pity, you should save your pity, to those others who didn't make it through there ordeal in life. Pity those who are close to you, Pity the priest and nuns, pray for them. Pity those who refuse to repent, and going to hell' on daily bases. Pity yourself, that you dare to mock the word of God, Mr know it all.. Read John 14-2, Jesus said there are many ROOMS in my Fathers house..NIV.. Since I have written to you, I have given you scriptures, not my own words, but the words of God Himself, which you still deny.. Amen, I pray for all Catholic's going to heaven, we all need that freedom with Christ, Christ had opened that door for us all. And if some of them get into heaven before me, Cool, Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord-the kingdom of God has come near to you, well done good and faithful servants. Everyone has their rights to lay down their life's to seek God's kingdom-how about you Mr KoloOyinbo, will you lay down your life for Christ? Ask yourself this Question, If someone put a gun to your head Mr KoloOyinbo, and said; is Jesus Christ your Lord, would you die in His name. Or would you think about it? KoloOyinbo: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by KoloOyinbo(m): 10:47am On Apr 19, 2015 |
brocab: Oh. I like the word of GOD but not of an unpleasant and ignorant fool like you. Sorry but you just talk so much illogical nonsense! ![]() |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 9:33pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
Quote>Oh you like the word of God? Sorry but you just talk much illogical nonsense> then its time for me to not waste my time talking to you about the word of God, as you have refused to listen and learn in word and truth. You have no knowledge to even try and understand, the word of God. Every scripture you have given me you have tried to twist it around, expecting me to bow down to the devil, where you stand. Every time I have given you word and bible truth you have cursed me to a "T" You have called me abusive names, mocking me cursing me and you have rubbished the word of God. You call yourself a Christian> without producing any fruit, which shows clearly you are just another religious Nutter who hides behind Christianity.. A lonely man with down to earth self pity. I have turned and wiped my feet at your door Mr KoloOyinbo>Keep on Telling God you are smarter' more intelligent, then any other man who brings to you the word of God. Keep on Telling the world your worldly knowledge can out whip any word the Lord brings to you. KoloOyinbo: |
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