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Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 2:53pm On May 24, 2015 |
brocab pls read your bible luke 24;39 Jesus told his apostles That He is not a ghost (spirit) but a man. if u read dat passage that pope francis was explaining maybe u will see u are out of line. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:02pm On May 24, 2015 |
are u away that no reliable site coraborate the claims u make? |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:06pm On May 24, 2015 |
are u away that no reliable site coraborate the claims u make? AND LASTLY YES THERE ARE NO CHRISTIANS without d church. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 4:32am On May 25, 2015 |
As I have read. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 4:32am On May 25, 2015 |
As I have read. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 4:57am On May 25, 2015 |
Which Church are you preferring too, the Roman Catholic Church as a building made with hands. Or" maybe a body of believers is the Church, Christ is talking about.. Did not Jesus say to His apostles, In Luke 21:5-6 when some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations, He said, "As for these things which you see, the days will come in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down." Is this not the statement the Lord made, from what was a temple building, now to a body of people who believe in Christ, are we not the Church, flesh and blood, and those who believe are with Spirit. Did I read about the Pope who said the Church is the Roman Catholic Church, and those who don't believe in the Church are not true Christians. Did Jesus stands fern with the body of Christ which is the Church {People} He prophesied the temple will be torn into, no longer does the Holy Spirit meet the high priest in the temple behind the veil, the Holy Spirit enters everybody who chooses to believe. That's the true Church in Christ. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 9:49pm On May 25, 2015 |
I wouldn't call it out of line, see things are happening involving the Vatican, and people around the world especially Christians, have started to see end times prophesies falling into place. And while the flood gates are open, people are seeing new and meaningful things happening around them, and the prophesies in the bible are starting to unveil its purpose. Have you ever heard of the watchman, it's usually written under every scripture involved around end times, the Lord say's watch, and People are watching. And I do know what Luke 24:39, not only it says He is flesh and blood, but there's a bit more to this scripture what His purpose was, letting His disciples see Him hand and foot, John 1:1, In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. Jesus came to prove to the world and believe that the word of God was God, who became flesh to save the world... John 4:24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in Spirit and in truth. 2 Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is Spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. So if the Pope was preaching on Luke 24:39, it would of been better if he had addressed the issue a lot clear so the Christians could understand what his purpose was when preaching about who Jesus was, explaining himself more clearly about the scriptures, so the Church can hear him out loud. Someone in the Church had showing the world this footage of Pope Francis preaching to the Church. Did the Pope say, Jesus is not a Spirit, or did he say Jesus is a Spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:50, Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Peter 3:18, "For Christ also suffered once for sins and just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh and made alive in the Spirit. So the Pope needs to say things more clearly, as I said there's strange things happening in the Vatican, and if you open up your net, you will see photo's and films what is inside the Vatican, and in Latin the priest worship Lucifer. Who is Lucifer to you. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 10:15pm On May 25, 2015 |
You need to pray and ask the Lord to show Himself what is truth, and what is not truth. The Lord has been using His own people to reach out to you, but you are not listening. Mr or Miss Ubenedictus open your eye's you have the computer in front of you, even the elect will be deceived, wolves in sheep clothing will lead you else where other then the truth. To day, people everywhere have wondered after Christ more then ever, the world is changing, and people are dying at a faster rate. Something is happening, and the net is covering it self with news from the four parts of the world, and people are either turning to Christ or they are like you, and ignore it all. Have you heard of the One World Religion about to rise, and Pope Francis is calling all Church leaders to join the Roman Catholic Church, does he realise the damages this would cause, the Church will end up killing it's self, and the people in it. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 12:06am On May 26, 2015 |
brocab: Well I can only pray for you, I certainly can't open your eyes if you do not wish to see. You claimed that pope benedict said Christianity is fake even though such claim can't be found in any reputable new site, you instead decided to believe what someone said on youtube. Even after giving you the transcript of his speech you still decided that youtube is your most trusted information source. If you can't detect misinformation simply because you are baised against the pope then I can't help you. You went on to claim pope francis said Jesus is not a spirit and alledge that is heretic, when it was Jesus himself who after resurrection was telling his apostles he is not a spirit(ghost). But unfortunately you prefer to crucify pope francis than admit the passage he is explaining Jesus clearly says he is not a spirit(ghost). I can't help you if you are baised. On the topic in question the pope clearly defined the Church as the body of Christ and rightly said one can't be a Christ outside the body of Christ which is the Church but instead you claim the pope was talking about a building. I can't help you if you are blinded by bais and hate, I can only pray for you. Have a nice day. You bais |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 12:23am On May 26, 2015 |
brocab: Jesus himself implied that he was not a ghost (spirit), in the passage in question, and pope francis went on to explain what he meant by that, but unfortunately you don't care because you are only interested in criticising him. The sermon didn't stop there it continued and the pope continued to explain why Jesus wanted them to see he was not a ghost but still possess flesh and blood like them and even eat with them, did you care to find out all he said on the issue? No! Because you are more interested in criticising one sentence which the pope actually gets from luke. Incase you don't know all catholic including the pope believe Jesus is both God and man, the passage the pope was explaining was when Jesus showed them that he was still human even after the resurrection. The pope didn't say "Jesus is JUST man" he said "Jesus is man" there is a difference, but ofcuz you don't care so far you can criticize. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 12:23am On May 26, 2015 |
brocab: you too need to pray that God delivers you from the spirit of misinformation and bais. Pray that you learn that not all stories you see in your computer is true. The Catholic Church does not believe in One world religion instead we believe in teaching the gospel and even working with non catholic to maintain peace in the society. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 3:03am On May 26, 2015 |
We will see the truth in due time, what your problem is, you cant see past yourself, the blind can only lead the blind. It is true, the Pope has been asking other denomination's Churches to come fourth and join up, what the Pope believes is the true Church, so we become one religion. The Pope want's to control the world { and How} by making sure every one worships only on a Sun--day.. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 4:36am On May 26, 2015 |
After everything I have explained to you, you still don't get it. I know what Jesus said in Luke, and I am not against that, as I said the Pope should of explained it to the Church more clearly, or maybe the Pope should lay low, because in these last moments the end time theory has now risen high, and people are now searching for answers, and because the Pope had started preaching his sermons, people have started to Question his authority to the world. Many have declared the Pope as being a false prophet. Your still not listening? Of course the Church are trying to cover up their own mistakes from the past to the future activities they have caused, as we know it's not really the Pope's fault, He is just another follower-like the rest of the priesthood-it's their banner they worship under the Roman Catholic Church, should take the blame, still having pagan practices "that alone upsets the believers in Christ. So now everything the Pope say's everyone is watching, either if it is "true or false', they are still watching. Of course past history has not helped when millions of believers and non believers have witness witchcraft, sexual activity's within the Church. And still until this day millions of people have come fourth, about the Churches bad behaviour, using the older youth as sex slaves, carried by sexual harassments and Child sexual abuse, raping and murdering innocent believers in Christ, all in the name of the Catholic Church. We do understand the Pope is trying to change the many mistakes, His followers have coursed over the centuries, in number we could only count a small percentage of good deeds, no more then the sicknesses the Catholic Priesthood has showing the world. By calling in the believers from different denominational's to come back to the Catholic Church, will mean, the Churches outside will have to forgive each and every sin the Church has committed.. And that alone will take some time. The Catholic Church wants the churches to combine with each other, "reason" because the Roman Catholic's want full control over the world once again. And how do they control the world, "{it is as simple as this? By keeping Sunday as there holy day, so every man, women and child continual's to worship the Sun--day Working against Christ, when Christ said we must keep the Sabbath day holy, which was Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. When Christ had risen on the last day of the week.. You can believe what you want, but Christians act as Christians do, and if you were any kind of a Christian" you yourself wouldn't ignore so much evidence in front of you, everything that's been flooding the gate ways, it's either from the Lord Himself, or from else where, it's pouring out like a title wave smashing flooding waters spreading across our nations, and now with the internet had open it's doors, and if there is any truth within, which their is, we are seeing it at a faster rate. Non believers and Christians believers are seeing the world changing in front of them before the eye's. It's only the blind who can only lead the blind... Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 2:51pm On May 26, 2015 |
brocab: you can accuse me of blindness all you like but you are the guy who is accusing a pope based on youtube videos. The pope isn't interest in leading all Church, his interest is to ensure that as Jesus praye we may all be one, we can come to the full knowledge of the truth. The pope is not inviting churches to join the catholic church, he is instead telling them to go back and check their heresies and see if all can work peacefully. 1 Like |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:01pm On May 26, 2015 |
brocab:pope francis actually explained his statement well just like pope benedict did, but the truth is you don't care. So far you can find an excuse to criticise him Of course the Church are trying to cover up their own mistakes from the past to the future activities they have caused, as we know it's not really the Pope's fault, He is just another follower-like the rest of the priesthood-it's their banner they worship under the Roman Catholic Church, should take the blame, still having pagan practices "that alone upsets the believers in Christ. So now everything the Pope say's everyone is watching, either if it is "true or false', they are still watching. hahahaha, hahahaahahhhhhaaaaa i can't stop laughing! So a grown man like you believe in conspiracy theories? My dear, grow up, a well reasoned man should be able to detect conspiracy theories when he sees them. 1 Like |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 10:44pm On May 26, 2015 |
This is your conspiracy story in truth, I'm I hearing this right, Mr Ubenedictus you would prefer me criticising the Pope, rather then hearing the truth. Well time will tell, and maybe it will be to late for you to even see any truth about who you worship. It has been a hard road, writing to Religious people such as you, but it's enjoying to me so I keep on doing it, because the truth in me works, and lines up' with the word of God. And this is not a conspiracy story this is fact? So lets start turning back your own laughter, and lets continual to mock you rather then the Pope. We will start with this Mr Ubenedictus and if you can't see reason in front of you, God help you-end times are here, and stranger things have been happening around the world-the Gay community have made way into the Church, mocking the Lord, while the Church leaders have stood back, allowing this mocking to continual against Christ. The Gay community have made claims, God loves all man kind, and we are made in the image of God, {which is true} using the law of the land as a weapon against the believers in Christ, Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities, so if the Governments gave the laws on Gay marriage, all laws given such as these, must come out of the Vatican. Why is the Church now backing down, because of their own Gay community actives, working against the children of God. Does not the lord give as a command one must follow the laws of the land, but does this give the Gay community the rights to open up Gay Churches, and disobeying God's commandments in sin. You should know all this Mr Ubenedictus, You call yourself a man, who calls other men dear? So really what is your story. To be truthful I have been laughing at you all along, without guessing, what you are. No man calls another man dear, unless they a children or wife's or husbands. But not to strangers, as I believe everybody who reads your Quotes calling men dear as you claim to be a man yourself would agree with me. And this is not a conspiracy this is fact. Respect you call it? Repent. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 1:42am On May 27, 2015 |
brocab: now this is simply delusional, "my dear" has been used in Nigeria for years now, it simply an address that refers to the other affectionately, variants of this address are "my dear sister, my dear brother, my dear friend" or even dear mother or dear father, all this addresses may simply be summarised as "my dear" and it is used informally in speech, my mum still uses my dear in informal conversation till today, you but be totally delusion to infer that I am gay simply beacuse I have spoken to you using the affection address "dear". It doesn't make me gay actually, it seems you are a homophobe out looking for who ever to accuse of been gay. Do you accuse everyone who disagree with you of homosexuality or is this just your poor excuse for the fact that your silly accusations are false? This is even more suprising coming from a protestant, Are your Churches not the one supporting gay marriages all over the world, go and check, the catholic church teaches that the homosexual sexual acts are sinful but it is your fellow protestant who go about lauding it. As for you conspiracy theories I suggest you see a therapist because it seems your bais has blinded you to the God given capacity for truth. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 5:08am On May 27, 2015 |
Well I have no argument when one calls either your sister brother mother father child or Grand parents dear, or lets say If I was to meet a female-then the term dear does not sound out of order. But when I hear men calling other men dear, it's disrespectful, Gay. Not every man calls men dear in your country, you must be proud you are the first, and it is understandable for your Mother to address others with dear, but coming from a man who addresses dear to another man "a stranger" and then you say your showing affection towards me. You are either a Gay who have not yet found your true foundations to know your true identity' wherever you stand. While in the meantime you are confused God had already given you your manhood, you either learn how to address other men as men, friend, mate, gentlemen with respect, or you stay affectionate as you are. And don't be a fended when one is confused how you address your dear mentally towards other men. It shows clearly you just haven't understood the story written in the bible about how God made Adam and eve, who calls each other dear, and not Adam and Steve. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 5:32am On May 27, 2015 |
Did you not protest the protestant Church came out from the Catholic Church at the beginning, So now your saying these Churches now carry Gay men and women, is it because the Catholic Churches are now full. Listen dummy,you did say, it was your Church who stood out from amongst the other Churches? Listen it don't matter who's Church is supporting the Gay community, what matters, it was the Roman Catholic Church the Mother that stands high above all other Churches, allowed this corruption to happen. Your words were, to say your Church is the Mother of all Churches, I say, so if the Mother is corrupted then all her followers are corrupted too. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Nobody: 9:23am On May 27, 2015 |
brocab:Nonsense, the reason why the Popes reach out to other Christians is for the fulfillment of the Lord's desire that we all become one just like He and His Father are one. Do you understand the Oneness of the Father and the Son? Do you think it is like the fragmentation of the thousands of the Protestant denominations? The Church is God's kingdom on earth and He is certainly not pleased with what Luther's protest has caused. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 10:04am On May 27, 2015 |
Am I my brothers keeper, nonsense you call it?-Why are the Popes reaching out to other denominations, it is not" what you believe, they are fulfilling the Lord's desire that we all become one like He and the Father. Matter of fact this can't possibility be done-unless all believers in Christ, become born again Christians and baptised in the Holy Spirit. John 3:3-4 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Nicodemus said to Him, "How can a man be born when he is already old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born? John 3:5, Jesus answered no-one can enter into heaven unless one is born of water and the Spirit. So sorry your theory is wrong, and because your parents had made the decision for you, to be baptised as a child, not making a choice for yourself to become a born again and baptised in the Spirit of God, then I can't believe the Popes are bringing all believers back to Christ, but only to bring the people back to a Church without God. Are you preferring that the Church is the Vatican, and the Popes are calling people to join with them in the Vatican? Did not Christ say in 1 Corinthians 12:12-13 that the body has many members but all the members of that one body, being many are one body, so also is Christ. For one Spirit we were all baptised into one body. Colossians 1:24 for the sake of His body, which is the Church. So could you explain to me which Church is the Popes calling the people back too? Plus I was happy talking with my old friend Ubenedictus, Now you? Papist: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by trapQ: 11:37pm On May 27, 2015 |
You are totally completely wrong. Even science has proven that the things (nightmares) you see in your sleep are all real, because the area of your brain used in recalling those scenarios are where physical activities take place. A word is enough for the wise. lagerwhenindoubt: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Nobody: 5:47pm On May 28, 2015 |
brocab:My friend is this not a public forum? Am i not allowed to comment here? Anyway the Popes are calling people back to the Church Jesus Christ established, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. The Church of the Holy Apostles and matyrs and saints. The Church that gave the world the Bible at the Council of Carthage. The one Church where all man made Protestant denominations came from. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Nobody: 5:57pm On May 28, 2015 |
vincent10:+dies+ |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 9:25pm On May 28, 2015 |
brocab: hahahahah, may God save us fron delusions. No problem, since you are the only Nigerian who believe it is "gay" to call another man "my dear" in informal discussion, I'll leave you to you opinion and kindly delete you from those I address as such. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 9:38pm On May 28, 2015 |
brocab: you have started again with your lies, I have never in discussion with you called the Catholic church "mother of all churches", the protestant churches are man made ventures, proposed by so-called men of God who could not bear sound doctines and moral. It is a even more shameful thing that you feel the need to blame the Catholic church for the heresy of protestants! Till this date the catholic church still teaches the truth on homosexuality, it is your ventures of men who forcefully an disobediently broke out who are lost and have decided to support sin! Even when the catholic church was busy warning the anglicans about the silliness of supporting homosexuality they still went on with their demonic plans, that should be a good lesson to you, all this your "churches" were built by men, they lack good foundation that is why they are inconsistent in moral teaching. They are like leaf blown away in the wind. Go and ask your G.O why he broke away from his previous church, ventures of men. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 11:18pm On May 28, 2015 |
Firstly they are not lies, secondly it was you and your religious dears, who claim the Catholic Church is the Mother of all Churches at the beginning of all quotes written by whom. By your Quote you have said it again' your Church stands above all other Churches, You should take note while you write>Quote, I have never discussion with you called the Catholic Church " mother of all Churches", the protestant Churches are man made ventures, proposed by so called men of God who can't bear sound doctrines and moral. Just by this statement you have said it again, your Church stands above all Churches, and every other Church is man made rubbish. It wasn't I myself that blames any Church, but when I hear from the Catholic's they believe their Church stands above all other Churches, and by your own Quote>does this mean the Catholic's believe all other denominational Churches that exist out side the Catholic Church, do not practise the word of God. So was it not you, and the rest of your dears who claimed Christianity started from the Catholic Church from the beginning. Quote>ask your G.O why he broke away from his previous Church. If this is the case>then I have the rights to blame the Catholic Church, for not doing their jobs rightly in the first place, mother Church had allowed these Churches to run there own race without God. Do you really believe your Church has a good foundation that stands above all, How was your Church built, it was made by men. Well I have news for you, my Church was made by God, which is Christ, and He stands on the true foundations, way above you. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 11:33pm On May 28, 2015 |
Ubenedictus I am not a Nigerian. My home is far far away..And in my country we have different customs, and different ways to address other men. If I was to call men dear, I would either receive a strange look followed with a punch or two, or I would find out later I have been called a gay. This is why, we don't address any man "as dear." But on top of all this, matter of fact you are the only Believer who calls anybody dear on this forum, I never heard Papist calling anybody dear, nor SalC, and I believe she's female, and still she don't call anybody dear, all any of the others who are Nigerians, only you address men as dear. Is it only a custom to you? Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 11:50pm On May 28, 2015 |
Yes of course you can speak, how come you believe your Church stands with pride on good foundations above all other denominational Churches? And you say Pope Peter was one of Christ's apostles that started your Church, and later the Church found him guilty of treason, and had him crucified up side down on the Cross, while the apostle Paul has his head decapitated, were they murdered because they tried to show the Church that the body of Christ is the Church. Not a man made structure, build with statues and idols. Was it Emperor Nero that made the final decision, to remove the apostles Peter and Paul, do you realize what the Catholic Church had done. You had taken Christ out of the Church. You had done what the Pharisees done, taken Christ out from among them, by crucifixion. So how can you call your Church the Church of Jesus Christ, when Jesus spoke clearly on Love and forgiveness. And was not the apostle Peter a married man, or were the Popes back then married men also? Ubenedictus you should read this-look what your dear Papist have Quoted>The one Church where all man made protestant denominations came from. But before your Church was built by men-Christianity came from Christ Himself, where all those who have left your Church since then, all have gone back and found the true foundation in Christ Himself, His true Church' which is the body from the beginning. Papist: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Ubenedictus(m): 8:41am On May 29, 2015 |
brocab: listen dummy, the catholic church didn't kill peter and paul, the pagans did. Are you ignorant or just dumb? You claimed I called d church "mother of all church" after pointing i never said that, u shifted the blame to papist. |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by brocab: 9:57am On May 29, 2015 |
Firstly I have already called you dummy, haven't you got any of your own words to say instead of using mine. I still love you as a brother, I love it when you insult me, calling me names, your abuse runs through my veins, as I stand behind the word of God. Psalm 23:4 when I walk through the shadow of death I will fear no evil, for you O lord are with me. Again praise the Lord-you have falsely accused me, I never shifted the blame on anybody, it shows you are looking for trouble rather then watching what you write, Papist only mention what you are denying, you are right in one sense, you do belong to one of the oldest Church buildings that ever stood on earth. Firstly you were blaming me, now you are shifting the blame on to the pagans, are you not the same religion, the Pagans worship Isis Queen of heaven she was holding her baby, and the Catholic's worship Mary Queen of heaven holding her baby, Nothing has changed only the names, both worship idols. What's the different's. Are you that much confused, that you can't see the resemblance, between the two ![]() Do you know that a Church building made of brick and mortar, has nothing to do with the Church of Christ, Jesus said His Church is the body of believers made by God, 1 Corinthians 12:27, Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. Ephesians 4:11, the body in Christ are prophets, evangelist, pastors and teachers given for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. So you see, the Church is not the Vatican, or the Roman Catholic Church building, it's people joining together, having no out standing name behind them, risking their own life's for the sake of Christ. Is it usually the case the Vatican would crucify their own, or would they prefer hiring someone else to do the job. Lets say Emperor Nero. Ubenedictus: |
Re: Pope John Paul Ii And Michael Jackson Found In Hell! by Syncan(m): 11:59am On May 29, 2015 |
Ubenedictus: Hahahaha, goodluck to you Ubenedictus. It seems this comedy is now telling on you. Lol. Next thing you should argue about is who called the other "dummy" first. Make I laugh joor. |
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