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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 4:55pm On Jul 15, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for coming to the thread! smiley


You still have no answer for this drunkard

Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:08pm On Jul 15, 2021
maximunimpact:

You still have no answer for this drunkard

Don't worry your friends will continue to hail you after all you've rubbishes their most revered Daddy GO and to top it all you've told them that all their religions are rubbish (including JWs)

maximunimpact:

Classic JWs style, always dodging when they get caught.
My question is quite simple answer or forever remain under chains:

The highlighted is what made JWs realize that you're under medications and constant watch of those who chose not to tie you down like Faze's song says. Kolo mental! embarassed

I just wonder why those assigned to administer your drugs left you unattended to with the cell phone in your hand! cheesy

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 8:32pm On Jul 15, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Don't worry your friends will continue to hail you after all you've rubbishes their most revered Daddy GO and to top it all you've told them that all their religions are rubbish (including JWs)



The highlighted is what made JWs realize that you're under medications and constant watch of those who chose not to tie you down like Faze's song says. Kolo mental! embarassed

I just wonder why those assigned to administer your drugs left you unattended to with the cell phone in your hand! cheesy

Mr junkie answer this question, you can't doge this one

Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:33pm On Jul 15, 2021
The next topic on this thread is about the gods, we've all heard about gods of all kind but their rules differs and the irony of it all is how one out of them all claimed He is the Almighty Creator.

So let's discuss
If one out of more 50,000 gods is claiming being the Creator of all others and Almighty, then from what brought about the remain? smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Janosky: 10:53pm On Jul 15, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Don't worry your friends will continue to hail you after all you've rubbishes their most revered Daddy GO and to top it all you've told them that all their religions are rubbish (including JWs)



The highlighted is what made JWs realize that you're under medications and constant watch of those who chose not to tie you down like Faze's song says. Kolo mental! embarassed

I just wonder why those assigned to administer your drugs left you unattended to with the cell phone in your hand! cheesy

That guy is not normal.
If he were normal,he should tell this forum which Generation that will not pass away saw the fulfilment of Matthew 24:4-14.
grin grin

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Janosky: 11:24pm On Jul 15, 2021
maximunimpact:


Classic JWs style, always dodging when they get caught.

My question is quite simple answer or forever remain under chains:

You think say you get sense dey form James Bond grin

Questions for you, Maximumimpact & friends.

#1.
Did THIS GENERATION that will not pass away see the fulfilment of all the things in Matthew 24:3-14?
#2.
Bros, is Matthew 24:3-14 still fulfilling today?
cheesy grin grin


Also, Matthew 24:30-34
And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. [/b]And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.[h] 31 [b]And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the world[i]—from the farthest ends of the earth and heaven.

32 “Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leaves begin to sprout, you know that summer is near. 33 In the same way, when you see all these things, you can know his return is very near, right at the door. 34 I tell you the truth, this generation[j] will not pass from the scene until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will never disappear."


#3
Bros, did THIS GENERATION in Jesus days see " the sign that the Son of man's coming will appear in the heavens?


#4
Bros, which Generation will "see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory?


#5
Bros, which Generation will " see the son of man send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet"?

#6
On the basis of your claims about "THIS GENERATION" , is the fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14 ,30-34 limited to "THIS GENERATION" in your options A to C?
grin grin grin grin



Bros, you & your WAILER crew of trolls , food done come, please do justice to questions. grin
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:28pm On Jul 15, 2021
Janosky:

That guy is not normal.
If he were normal,he should tell this forum which Generation that will not pass away saw the fulfilment of Matthew 24:4-14.

I know his type, he's one of the real atheist but his friends are too hypocritical to see that all they're after is community effort against JWs even if it's a runaway patient from Yaba they'll graciously recognize his presence as long as he joins their struggle against their one and only enemy group Jehovah's Witnesses! grin

The truth is he's intolerant towards all religions but for JWs whose teachings always torments him he has developed such hatred with passion. Any intelligent observer can see that all he's trying to tell JWs is:
"you people shouldn't be allowed to say a word in the public" cheesy

So the more he notice JWs commenting the crazier and tormented he becomes, that's the reason he keeps repeating the question as if that's what will cure his insanity! smiley

Do you know i didn't get his question not until johnw47 told me what exactly he meant! undecided

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:44pm On Jul 15, 2021
Answer to the Question about GENERATION! smiley

MaxInDHouse:

"GENERATION"

"Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen" Matthew 24:34

From the above quotation we are concerned about the colored because it's what bothers all true servants of God right from the time of Abel until now. All the prophets except Jesus of Nazareth were anxious to see the end of this wicked system of things.
For instance Habakkuk in deep thoughts over all the atrocities committed under the sun said to JEHOVAH:

"Your eyes are too pure to look on what is evil, And you cannot tolerate wickedness. Why, then, do you tolerate the treacherous And keep silent when a wicked man swallows up someone more righteous than he is?" Habakkuk 1:13

So all true servants of God are yearning to see the end of all badness! Act 1:6

When his faithful Apostles approached him in private to ask him questions regarding this big issue {Matthew 24:1-3} Jesus explained that there will be a sign to know that the end is fast approaching. He mentioned so many things that makes them lost in thought {Matthew 24:4-42} though this faithful men also never understood everything Jesus said but they were willing to learn more from this wonderful counselor the world has ever known.

Now what exactly does he mean by the word "Generation" ?

After the false prophets various forms of religious sects emerged through the powerful signs displayed by these false prophets, again most people following them failed to ask
"why so much contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of Jesus is Lord?" undecided
Because of the contradictions code of conduct for those claiming worshipers of the same God will not be specific which will give birth to LAWLESSNESS and the result is many will begin to ignore organized worship since it's of no real benefits! Matthew 24:12
What will Jesus' real followers be doing during this period?
Will they also engage in performing signs to woo worshipers to the truth?
Remember there will be lots and lots of testimonies about how many people got solution to their immediate problems through the signs performed by various religious sects.

NO! Jesus said his own true followers will not be carried away by the false prophets and their worthless signs, rather Jesus' true followers will continue to endure all what this is causing until the end {Matthew 24:13} Jesus emphasized that his own TRUE followers will stand immovable no matter what happens! Luke 21:28

So what will they be doing during all these period? Well people from the North to the South, from the East to the West will recognize Jesus' true followers as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all the corners of the earth, discussing with their neighbours about the coming Kingdom of our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus! Matthew 24:14

That is what many critics misconstrued as false prophecies as Jehovah's Witnesses kept proclaiming the coming of God's Kingdom:

First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.” 2Peter 3:3-4

So if some people have loaded your heart's with bitter strife against God's servants proclaiming the end of this system of things be rest assured that THE GENERATION SEEING ALL THESE THINGS WILL NOT PASS AWAY for all these recorded events to become mere stories for another generation to write stories about all the things we're experiencing now!

The generation that saw the beginning of this events in 1914 may surely pass away, the generation that experienced the mid event may pass away but these composite sign of the endtime which Our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus talked about will never end when God's Kingdom strikes! Luke 21:33

Therefore if you're part of the generation that is witnessing this events whether you knew it's beginning in 1914, or born in the middle of the troubles or just born now that God's people has stopped going to visit their neighbors which started in 1919 ~ 2019 due to Covid19 I am using this medium to say you're welcome to the LAST OF THE LAST DAYS in fact THE LAST HOUR!
God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 11:54pm On Jul 15, 2021
Janosky:


You think say you get sense dey form James Bond grin

Questions for you, Maximumimpact & friends.

#1.
Did THIS GENERATION that will not pass away see the fulfilment of all the things in Matthew 24:3-14?
#2.
Bros, is Matthew 24:3-14 still fulfilling today?
cheesy grin grin


Also, Matthew 24:30-34
And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. [/b]And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.[h] 31 [b]And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the world[i]—from the farthest ends of the earth and heaven.

32 “Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leaves begin to sprout, you know that summer is near. 33 In the same way, when you see all these things, you can know his return is very near, right at the door. 34 I tell you the truth, this generation[j] will not pass from the scene until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will never disappear."


#3
Bros, did THIS GENERATION in Jesus days see " the sign that the Son of man's coming will appear in the heavens?


#4
Bros, which Generation will "see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory?


#5
Bros, which Generation will " see the son of man send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet"?

#6
On the basis of your claims about "THIS GENERATION" , is the fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14 ,30-34 limited to "THIS GENERATION" in your options A to C?
grin grin grin grin



Bros, you & your WAILER crew of trolls , food done come, please do justice to questions. grin

Who is talking about the generation in Jesus time on earth in first century here?

Am talking about the generation that saw 1914, the ones your governing body said they'll not all pass away until Armaggedon happens.

So I ask again:

Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 12:03am On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:


That guy is not normal.
If he were normal,he should tell this forum which Generation that will not pass away saw the fulfilment of Matthew 24:4-14.
grin grin

It wasn't me that said 1914 was the year "Christ's presence began", it was your governing body.

They also said that the generation that saw 1914 will not pass away until Armaggedon, or are you denying watchtower didn't predict it?

So how long is a generation?

Answer this and stop dodging and derailing, until you provide answer to this question it means all JWs are not normal.

Here's the question again:

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Janosky: 1:05am On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:


It wasn't me that said 1914 was the year "Christ's presence began", it was your governing body.

They also said that the generation that saw 1914 will not pass away until Armaggedon, or are you denying watchtower didn't predict it?

So how long is a generation?

Answer this and stop dodging and derailing, until you provide answer to this question it means all JWs are not normal.

Here's the question again:

Is the fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14,30-34 limited to THIS GENERATION of Jesus days?

When you provide an answer to the question I asked, then your eyes Will be opened. grin grin grin grin
You will know the answer to your question.
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Janosky: 1:06am On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:


Who is talking about the generation in Jesus time on earth in first century here?

Am talking about the generation that saw 1914, the ones your governing body said they'll not all pass away until Armaggedon happens.

So I ask again:

Have they all died ?
Use your brain, if you still have it.
grin
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Kingsnairaland(m): 5:58am On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:


It wasn't me that said 1914 was the year "Christ's presence began", it was your governing body.

They also said that the generation that saw 1914 will not pass away until Armaggedon, or are you denying watchtower didn't predict it?

So how long is a generation?

Answer this and stop dodging and derailing, until you provide answer to this question it means all JWs are not normal.

Here's the question again:

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Kingsnairaland(m): 6:00am On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:


Have they all died ?
Use your brain, if you still have it.
grin

How many years is a generation that the question

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 6:54am On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:


Is the fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14,30-34 limited to THIS GENERATION of Jesus days?

When you provide an answer to the question I asked, then your eyes Will be opened. grin grin grin grin
You will know the answer to your question.

This question hard JWs die, but I will keep asking it till I get an answer

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 6:56am On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:


Have they all died ?
Use your brain, if you still have it.
grin

Defending lies always have an expiry date, it looks like time have ran out for this lie grin

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:02am On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:


This question hard JWs die, but I will keep asking it till I get an answer
no need because Devils children can't give you answer when the devil himself does not know so why waste your time, people who pervert the Bible what else can't they do

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:21am On Jul 16, 2021
Kingsnairaland:

How many years is a generation that the question

True believers in the owner of that statement aren't radicals or irrational beings, we're always calm and willing to think deeply so even in his days 99% of his contemporaries believed he was mad! undecided
WHY?
Because his words are always difficult to grasp {Matthew 13:13} so for anyone to discern what Jesus' is saying patience, humility and tolerance is vitally needed {Zephaniah 2:2-3} otherwise you'll hastily walkaway from the bread of life just as majority of his first century Jewish followers did! John 6:61-66
Well that was when Jesus came in the flesh but now that he has become a mighty spirit King nobody will beg you to listen to his earthly representatives who are gathering his sheep in preparedness of his return.
So if truthfully you want to know what our Master, Lord and King meant by that statement this is the explanation below.
We are not hasty at all in our understanding of his words unlike most people did in the first century and concluded that Jesus has gone out of his mind! Mark 3:21; John 10:20 smiley


MaxInDHouse:

"GENERATION"

"Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen" Matthew 24:34

From the above quotation we are concerned about the colored because it's what bothers all true servants of God right from the time of Abel until now. All the prophets except Jesus of Nazareth were anxious to see the end of this wicked system of things.
For instance Habakkuk in deep thoughts over all the atrocities committed under the sun said to JEHOVAH:

"Your eyes are too pure to look on what is evil, And you cannot tolerate wickedness. Why, then, do you tolerate the treacherous And keep silent when a wicked man swallows up someone more righteous than he is?" Habakkuk 1:13

So all true servants of God are yearning to see the end of all badness! Act 1:6

When his faithful Apostles approached him in private to ask him questions regarding this big issue {Matthew 24:1-3} Jesus explained that there will be a sign to know that the end is fast approaching. He mentioned so many things that makes them lost in thought {Matthew 24:4-42} though this faithful men also never understood everything Jesus said but they were willing to learn more from this wonderful counselor the world has ever known.

Now what exactly does he mean by the word "Generation" ?

After the false prophets various forms of religious sects emerged through the powerful signs displayed by these false prophets, again most people following them failed to ask
"why so much contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of Jesus is Lord?" undecided
Because of the contradictions code of conduct for those claiming worshipers of the same God will not be specific which will give birth to LAWLESSNESS and the result is many will begin to ignore organized worship since it's of no real benefits! Matthew 24:12
What will Jesus' real followers be doing during this period?
Will they also engage in performing signs to woo worshipers to the truth?
Remember there will be lots and lots of testimonies about how many people got solution to their immediate problems through the signs performed by various religious sects.

NO! Jesus said his own true followers will not be carried away by the false prophets and their worthless signs, rather Jesus' true followers will continue to endure all what this is causing until the end {Matthew 24:13} Jesus emphasized that his own TRUE followers will stand immovable no matter what happens! Luke 21:28

So what will they be doing during all these period? Well people from the North to the South, from the East to the West will recognize Jesus' true followers as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all the corners of the earth, discussing with their neighbours about the coming Kingdom of our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus! Matthew 24:14

That is what many critics misconstrued as false prophecies as Jehovah's Witnesses kept proclaiming the coming of God's Kingdom:

First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.” 2Peter 3:3-4

So if some people have loaded your heart's with bitter strife against God's servants proclaiming the end of this system of things be rest assured that THE GENERATION SEEING ALL THESE THINGS WILL NOT PASS AWAY for all these recorded events to become mere stories for another generation to write stories about all the things we're experiencing now!

The generation that saw the beginning of this events in 1914 may surely pass away, the generation that experienced the mid event may pass away but these composite sign of the endtime which Our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus talked about will never end when God's Kingdom strikes! Luke 21:33

Therefore if you're part of the generation that is witnessing this events whether you knew it's beginning in 1914, or born in the middle of the troubles or just born now that God's people has stopped going to visit their neighbors which started in 1919 ~ 2019 due to Covid19 I am using this medium to say you're welcome to the LAST OF THE LAST DAYS in fact THE LAST HOUR!
God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:48am On Jul 16, 2021
Kingsnairaland:
no need because Devils children can't give you answer when the devil himself does not know so why waste your time, people who pervert the Bible what else can't they do

Your brother is part of Satan's seeds!
The first person to bring out their inner thought is called "Cain" he killed his fellowman out of envy and jealously because God approved Abel's worship and rejected his own. Genesis 4:1-8

Ever since then majority of people like him are multiplying on the surface of the earth, their intentions is to disrupt pure worship so instead of working hard to improve their own dealings with their Creator all that comes to their minds is how to stop everyone from having any form of godly devotion. They beleive it's all worthless!
Use the below to read maximunimpact's heart:

maximunimpact:

The lie upon which JWs are built have expired move on!

Now compare to Jews in Jesus' day:

“He has a demon and is out of his mind. Why do you listen to him?” John 10:20

Therefore the demon will continue to push him until one day when the opportunity comes to act against true believers, then he'll wholeheartedly support shedding the blood of his neighbours who never joined him in giving up in organized worship! Luke 23:18

So if you listen carefully to his words you will know that he's not only fighting against JWs but all forms of organized worship apart from Catholics.

Topic "Did You Know: The History of Christianity Can Be Traced To Only Roman Catholic?"
maximunimpact:

Acts 20:30 – “Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them”.

This single scriptures explain why there are many churches, denominations and sects among the Christian body.

If you trace the history of Christianity from Abraham till date, it all pointed to one church – Roman Catholic!

Going by the above scripture you can now see the so called protestants are the one drawing disciples after themselves and these includes Anglican, Pentecostals, Jehovah witness, Presbyterian, etc.

Whenever I make up my mind to start attending church my best bet is Roman Catholic; every other sect are all after their own personal aggrandizement and greed.




Well according to the history of that religion millions have been tortured to death for taking their stand against them! smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 7:55am On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Your brother is part of Satan's seeds!
The first person to bring out their inner thought is called "Cain" he killed his fellowman out of envy and jealously because God approved Abel's worship and rejected his own. Genesis 4:1-8

Ever since then majority of people like him are multiplying on the surface of the earth, their intentions is to disrupt pure worship so instead of working hard to improve their own dealings with their Creator all that comes to their minds is how to stop everyone from having any form of godly devotion. They beleive it's all worthless!
Use the below to read maximunimpact's heart:



Now compare to Jews in Jesus' day:

“He has a demon and is out of his mind. Why do you listen to him?” John 10:20

Therefore the demon will continue to push him until one day when the opportunity comes to act against true believers, then he'll wholeheartedly support shedding the blood of his neighbours who never joined him in giving up in organized worship! Luke 23:18

So if you listen carefully to his words you will know that he's not only fighting against JWs but all forms of organized worship apart from Catholics.



Well according to the history of that religion millions have been tortured to death for taking their stand against them! smiley




The time you wasted in misquoting Scriptures is enough to answer this question, the question is very simple with 4 options, you can add another option if the 4 is not enough.

Here's the question again:

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Janosky: 9:06am On Jul 16, 2021
true2god:

#1.
Sound reasoning is when you make a decision (or say something) that is consistent. Your governing has no sound reasoning hence they are changing doctrines and making false predictions and prophecies.
#2
Besides, people with sound reasoning will not go against a state law that demand reporting child molesters to the public for documentation.
#3
An organization with a sound reasoning will not suggest divorce for a lady (or a man) whose husband decide to leave the organization.

#4
Who is ‘THEY’ as you used in this context? Your governing body, in your July 2011 watchtower magazine, said any JW that leave the watchtower has a mental disease. Go and get the magazine and see things for yourselves. You will determine if the governing body is actually sane.

#4B
Repeating this passive blackmail will not change anything. Why the sudden bashing of the guy when he didn’t reason along your religious script?
#5
When you answer the ‘generation’ question about your 1914 fallacy you will get a response from him.

Caveat: You are free to worship anything, even a stone as long as you don’t throw it at me.


1
This Jesus teaching and command,
Matthew 10:5-6, do not go to the Samaritans, continually go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Acts1:8, Jesus Christ changed his teaching and command..... "You will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, all of Judea and Samaria and to the ends of the earth"

Bros, did Jesus Christ preach that animal sacrifices should continue?
Bros true2 says Jesus Christ has no sound reasoning, hence he is changing doctrines"
Luke 24:25 Even though he knows Jesus Christ called the disciples "senseless ones" because they wrongly predicted he will "redeem Isreal".
Bros, did Jesus redeem Isreal from Roman oppression?
grin

#2
... The Supreme Court Verdict of Montana child molester litigation, k2radio.com and Reuters.com proven that your claims are spurious.
Australia enacted the law for religious groups mandatory report of child abuse in 2020..
1006 claims on JWs reeks of prejudice, so is similar claims against other Faiths.

What will happen if someone takes you to Court for what he terms as Offence which the law does not recognize?
Na Australia legal system talk am ooo
grin
grin grin

More important, give this forum the proof that your Church Pastors handed over child molesters for prosecution. No be to dey make mouth dey make accusations upandan.
Bros, walk the talk. Show the proof!
grin grin


#3.
1 Corinthians 7:12-14 ,JWs take the Bible verses seriously.
Your claim is NOT true. grin

#4.
For the same reason Jesus called someone "Son of destruction"

**4B.
This is not the first time you're fond of spurious claims. grin

#5
On the basis of your claims about "THIS GENERATION" , is the fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14 ,30-34 limited to "THIS GENERATION" in Maximumimpact options A to C?

Bros, Did THIS Generation " see the son of man send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet"?
grin grin

Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Splinz(m): 10:05am On Jul 16, 2021
Thank you for the response, DappaD. Whilst I may not agree with you, nevertheless, I quite appreciate your feedback. Thank you.

You see, it can be correctly said that TWO cardinal qualities are the bedrock or foundation of a true worshipper or follower of Christ, and those two things are: 1. Holy Spirit 2. Truth (John 4:23). In fact, the Holy Father desires such worshippers.

What I'm saying is this. If we, either claimed, strived to be or know that we are true worshippers, then we must clinged to these qualities most especially the truth, as is our case here. That said, please let's look at our discussion again.

DappaD:

Melchizedek was a human being flesh and blood like you and me. And like us, he also had human parents.

DappaD, it appears you did not see the scripture I supplied, detailing who Melchizedek was. That's fine, I'd present it again right away:
For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated “king of righteousness,” and then also king of Salem, meaning “king of peace,” without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually (Hebrews 7:1-3)

Whilst it needs no explanation, let's look at it anyway. These are the attributes or who Melchizedek is:

1. He is a King of righteousness and King of peace,

2. Melchizedek has no father, no mother, no genealogy, no beginning of days nor end of life.

My friend, is it right in the sight of God to listen to you more than to God? Judge (Acts 4:19). You're claiming that Melchizedek was human like us. But last I checked, I am not "Jehovah God" who is without beginning of days nor end of life. Are you? Also checking, I am not even a king not to talk of being a King of righteousness and King of peace. Again, is that you?

Remember, a true worshipper worships in TRUTH.

DappaD:

Unless you would want to explain his coming into existence.

Ah DappaD, now you're being biased. This is like me asking you to explain how "Jehovah God" came into existence, when it is clear that "Jehovah God" and Melchizedek are without beginning of days nor end of life.

There's no way out of it. It's either Melchizedek is the same as "Jehovah God" or we agree that "Jehovah God" is not the only One without beginning nor end of life. Don't you think?

DappaD:

so it make no sense saying that Jesus is God since Melchizedek was never God.

Okay, now explain it. How come Melchizedek shares the very same qualities and attributes that makes "Jehovah God" who He is? Put another way, what is the difference between "Jehovah God" and Melchizedek? Could it be that the former is without beginning and end of life but the latter has a beginning and end?

Thank you once again, DappaD. And please don't forget, a true worshipper worships God in TRUTH.
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:30am On Jul 16, 2021
Splinz:

Melchizedek has no father, no mother, no genealogy, no beginning of days nor end of life.

How was it true that Melchizedek had ‘neither beginning of days nor end of life’?

Paul isolated an outstanding fact respecting Melchizedek, in saying of him: In being fatherless, motherless, without genealogy, having neither a beginning of days nor an end of life, but having been made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually (Heb 7:3)
Like other humans, Melchizedek was born and he died. However, the names of his father and mother are not furnished, his ancestry and posterity are not disclosed, and the Scriptures contain no information about the beginning of his days or the end of his life. Thus, Melchizedek could fittingly foreshadow Jesus Christ, who has an unending priesthood. As Melchizedek had no recorded predecessor or successor in his priesthood, so too Christ was preceded by no high priest similar to himself, and the Bible shows that none will ever succeed him. Furthermore, although Jesus was born in the tribe of Judah and in the kingly line of David, his fleshly ancestry had no bearing on his priesthood, nor was it by virtue of human ancestry that the offices of both priest and king were combined in him. These things were as a result of Jehovah’s own oath to him.
May you have PEACE! smiley

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 11:34am On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:


1
This Jesus teaching and command,
Matthew 10:5-6, do not go to the Samaritans, continually go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Acts1:8, Jesus Christ changed his teaching and command..... "You will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, all of Judea and Samaria and to the ends of the earth"

Bros, did Jesus Christ preach that animal sacrifices should continue?
Bros true2 says Jesus Christ has no sound reasoning, hence he is changing doctrines"
Luke 24:25 Even though he knows Jesus Christ called the disciples "senseless ones" because they wrongly predicted he will "redeem Isreal".
Bros, did Jesus redeem Isreal from Roman oppression?
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#2
... The Supreme Court Verdict of Montana child molester litigation, k2radio.com and Reuters.com proven that your claims are spurious.
Australia enacted the law for religious groups mandatory report of child abuse in 2020..
1006 claims on JWs reeks of prejudice, so is similar claims against other Faiths.

What will happen if someone takes you to Court for what he terms as Offence which the law does not recognize?
Na Australia legal system talk am ooo
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More important, give this forum the proof that your Church Pastors handed over child molesters for prosecution. No be to dey make mouth dey make accusations upandan.
Bros, walk the talk. Show the proof!
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#3.
1 Corinthians 7:12-14 ,JWs take the Bible verses seriously.
Your claim is NOT true. grin

#4.
For the same reason Jesus called someone "Son of destruction"

**4B.
This is not the first time you're fond of spurious claims. grin

#5
On the basis of your claims about "THIS GENERATION" , is the fulfilment of Matthew 24:3-14 ,30-34 limited to "THIS GENERATION" in Maximumimpact options A to C?

Bros, Did THIS Generation " see the son of man send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet"?
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This gibberish didn't even mention 1914 or Armaggedon, I won't even argue your twisted Scriptures that suggessted deciples predicted the redemption of the Jews because contrary to watchtower lies it was only a question they asked Jesus.

But the 1914 bomb was More than just a question, so I ask again how long is a generation?

JWs built an entire doctrine around 1914 so any JW can answer this

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Splinz(m): 12:10pm On Jul 16, 2021
Thank you, Maximus.

MaxInDHouse:

Like other humans, Melchizedek was born and he died.

You're repeating the same thing DappaD said, which is a lie; falsehood. According to scripture, Melchizedek has no beginning [birth] and no end [death]. Should I listen to God or you? Acts 4:19.

However, I'd accept it for what it is; your opinion or assumption.

MaxInDHouse:
However, the names of his father and mother are not furnished, his ancestry and posterity are not disclosed, and the Scriptures contain no information about the beginning of his days or the end of his life.

Good.

Does the scriptures contain information on "Jehovah God's" father and mother, ancestry and posterity, beginning of His days or the end of His life? Does He even have any?

Thank you.
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 12:57pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Your brother is part of Satan's seeds!
The first person to bring out their inner thought is called "Cain" he killed his fellowman out of envy and jealously because God approved Abel's worship and rejected his own. Genesis 4:1-8

Ever since then majority of people like him are multiplying on the surface of the earth, their intentions is to disrupt pure worship so instead of working hard to improve their own dealings with their Creator all that comes to their minds is how to stop everyone from having any form of godly devotion. They beleive it's all worthless!
Use the below to read maximunimpact's heart:



Now compare to Jews in Jesus' day:

“He has a demon and is out of his mind. Why do you listen to him?” John 10:20

Therefore the demon will continue to push him until one day when the opportunity comes to act against true believers, then he'll wholeheartedly support shedding the blood of his neighbours who never joined him in giving up in organized worship! Luke 23:18

So if you listen carefully to his words you will know that he's not only fighting against JWs but all forms of organized worship apart from Catholics.

Topic "Did You Know: The History of Christianity Can Be Traced To Only Roman Catholic?"





Well according to the history of that religion millions have been tortured to death for taking their stand against them! smiley




This delusional junkie is trying his best to associate me with catholic Church eventhough his colored text indicates am no catholic. That's an example of how JWs twist facts to serve their agenda.

The self proclaimed CIA "asset" was able to dig up my 2018 post to massage his own ego but conveniently avoided my posts Defending watchtower teachings when I was still their member until I couldn't take the lies no more.

You can't sweep 1914 delusional bulshit under the rug while clinging on same year to establish your teaching that governing body received the keys to the kingdom invisibly when Jesus presence began in 1914.

It's either you completely come clean and admit 1914 was a lie just as Watchtower have done in the past on other topics and squash the idea of being appointed faithful and discrete slave along with it.

In the absence of that, I ask again: how long is a generation?

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by achorladey: 1:24pm On Jul 16, 2021
true2god:
This is the reason I have concluded that the men at Brooklyn are demonic in nature. When certain elders are not sincere in their dealings then there is a problem.

The writer said:

Whether our religion meets this criterion or not can only be determined by open-mindedly comparing it with the Bible.

The statement above inferred that the Bible should be the standard for our religious authentications which means that his audiences are Christians (whether Catholics, Anglicans, or even JWs)

However, in a classic watchtower demonic cunningness he concluded thus:

After all, the child born to Catholic parents has had no more control over this fact than the child born to Muslim parents’ controls that…

Why suddenly switch to Muslims, an entirely non-Bible based religion? Why couldn’t the watchtower be consistent by comparing the Catholics’ interpretation (or any other denomination) and understanding of the Bible with the Jehovah’s witnesses? I have said it before, and I will repeat it again, the watchtower is notorious for bashing the catholic faith but will also cry persecution at the same time when same is done to them. I am not a catholic anyway but JWs need to stop bashing other people while at the dame time making unfounded claims (1914, 1875, 1975, 1984, etc)

Thank you bros for pointing this out.



Bashing others while they too are caught in the same act
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:38pm On Jul 16, 2021
Splinz:

Thank you, Maximus.
You're repeating the same thing DappaD said, which is a lie; falsehood. According to scripture, Melchizedek has no beginning [birth] and no end [death]. Should I listen to God or you? Acts 4:19.
However, I'd accept it for what it is; your opinion or assumption

You're welcome Sir!
Paul is the one teaching his Jewish Christian brothers why they must ignore the Levitical priesthood and the law that ordered Israelites to continue bringing tithes to Levites.
So Paul's letter wasn't on the life or genealogy of Melchizedek rather he was emphasizing on Jesus' right to serve as the Highpriest in the manner of Melchizedek unlike the Highpriests in Israel that were serving through the lineage of Aaron! Hebrews 7:11 undecided

Good.
Does the scriptures contain information on "Jehovah God's" father and mother, ancestry and posterity, beginning of His days or the end of His life? Does He even have any?
Thank you.
Hmmmmmm Mr Splinz! smiley
The same Apostle Paul drew a parallel between Jesus and Adam when emphasizing on Jesus' resurrection! 1Corinthians 15:45
Peter drew a parallel between Moses and Jesus emphasizing on his manner of prophet! Act 3:22 compare to Deuteronomy 18:15-28

So can we conclude on such comparison and say Jesus must be Adam or Moses? undecided

Of course not!

Melchizedek surely has parents but due to the fact that God's word never mentioned anything about his parents, birth or death, Paul is telling his Jewish Christian brothers that they don't need tracing Jesus' to the lineage of their priesthood before accepting him as their Highpriest. Hebrews 7:12-16

May you have PEACE! smiley

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by Splinz(m): 2:04pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

You're welcome Sir!

Thank you, Maximus. Like I said earlier, your opinion on the Personage of Melchizedek is duly noted.
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:11pm On Jul 16, 2021
You're welcome once again!
Just like the topic of this thread, JWs only study God's word together and AGREE on the outcome of our research.
That's the secret of our ONENESS! John 17:20-23

May you have PEACE! smiley



Splinz:

Thank you, Maximus. Like I said earlier, your opinion on the Personage of Melchizedek is duly noted.

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by maximunimpact(m): 2:14pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


You're welcome Sir!
Paul is the one teaching his Jewish Christian brothers why they must ignore the Levitical priesthood and the law that ordered Israelites to continue bringing tithes to Levites.
So Paul's letter wasn't on the life or genealogy of Melchizedek rather he was emphasizing on Jesus' right to serve as the Highpriest in the manner of Melchizedek unlike the Highpriests in Israel that were serving through the lineage of Aaron! Hebrews 7:11 undecided


Hmmmmmm Mr Splinz! smiley
The same Apostle Paul drew a parallel between Jesus and Adam when emphasizing on Jesus' resurrection! 1Corinthians 15:45
Peter drew a parallel between Moses and Jesus emphasizing on his manner of prophet! Act 3:22 compare to Deuteronomy 18:15-28

So can we conclude on such comparison and say Jesus must be Adam or Moses? undecided

Of course not!

Melchizedek surely has parents but due to the fact that God's word never mentioned anything about his parents, birth or death, Paul is telling his Jewish Christian brothers that they don't need tracing Jesus' to the lineage of their priesthood before accepting him as their Highpriest. Hebrews 7:12-16

May you have PEACE! smiley

When you are done derailing you answer this question, its never going away, it's a constant reminder of watchtower delusional bulshits

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 by THEWRITERSMIND: 2:16pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse why not just answer the 1914 question and set matters straight?

Does it mean there's no answer to the question?

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