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Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by advanceDNA: 6:51pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
cooooooks: Guy...why are all your comments Patronizing ...you told me my comments doesn’t flow with logic...it’s like calling someone irrational...I ddnt get angry but explain...yet you are calling paranoid...jeez! |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Kobojunkie: 7:22pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
efficiencie:While the statement in bold seems logical enough, not all women are dependent on men or care to live that way, and so feminism is not just a pill for only women surrounded by eejits. 3 Likes |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Acidosis(m): 7:29pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
What's your opinion about radical feminist's view of biological reproduction? When women under the guise of feminism begin to challenge or ask why women give birth instead of men, you expect the average Nigerian man or woman to accept that movement? How do you tell the average baby-bump loving family to adopt that movement? Of course, there are many other issues that affect women today which feminism seeks to challenge but hey, do we really need "feminism" to address ra.pe, abuse, pay parity?? There are a number of institutions already fighting for women's rights and the pioneers aren't even feminists. If you feel you have to belong to a group of feminists before you do the right thing as a human, then something is fundamentally wrong. Appreciate your femininity as a woman; don't let anyone lie to you. Like masculinity, femininity is what you should embrace, not feminism. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by ImaIma1(f): 8:29pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
The kind of feminism we see here is SINGLE ladies with animosity towards men. They rubbish the main aim of the feminism movement. They act like heartbroken and bitter people, always ready to spew and pounce on negativity about men. They are at the fore front of the "men are scum" association. It's about hating men; usually very toxic in nature. Just recently a popular "men are scum" leader and feminist (Bianze) got married and it raised a lot of eyebrows. These class of feminists are quick to denounce feminism when they finally find a man that scatters their brains with love. Feminism is much more and very different from all of this, but that's what we get here. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by cooooooks(m): 9:23pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
Not my intention and I'm always happy to improve my communication skills. I'll try again. Debate the particular feminist and not the 'movement'. What, the person can easily disavow your points advanceDNA: |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by efficiencie(m): 10:06pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Yeah right! "Independent woman" is the catch phrase describing women who have lived under oppression for years and have one way or the other obtained freedom. If a woman was never oppressed she will not seek independence because she would already have it. You don't seek what you already have. I believe that most of the women that claim to be a feminist have been victims of oppression in one way or the other...but when you are surrounded by great thinkers, mentors, teachers, coaches, guardians and leaders as men you will have no trouble submitting to their guidance, leadership and wisdom. Irresponsible and foolish men are the sole drivers of feminism. These are the men who think having a deek is all it takes to be a man. Ironically it is these same foolish men that these feminists envy. Feminist envy the fact that foolish men do whatever they life whenever they like. Feminists envy the fact that foolish men get to do stupid things and get away with it and would like to enjoy the same privilege. Feminist want to be equal to men who sacrifice family and parenting on the altar of career success. Feminists want to be equal to men whose inordinate desire and ambition for fame, power and wealth have led them down paths that have constituted a threat to themselves, their families, their communities and their nations. Feminists would like to enjoy the transient pleasures that foolish men enjoy! Feminists have been surrounded by foolish men so much that they have chosen foolishness as a way of life! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Kobojunkie: 10:45pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
efficiencie:Well, If you put it that way, sure! When you have existed under a regime that determines you a subclass citizen in your own country, simply on grounds that you weren’t born with extra meat hanging down between your legs, sure you are bound to be frustrated and oppressed and yearn for freedom from it all. But it is not right to paint all feminists as women who have been directly oppressed in direct relationships with men and are seeking independence from them in some way. No, feminism is about ceasing to be regarded as subclass citizens and achieving equal rights that are availed the male gender. I say this because I believe men have the right to be foolish, irresponsible, and downright slowpoke too. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by efficiencie(m): 12:16pm On Aug 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: The bolded clearly shows some level of oppression. If ladies were not regarded as "subclass citizens" and have the so called "equal rights" they will have nothing to fight for. Absolutely nothing. Your statement thereby proves my point that the oppression of the women is the basis for feminism. Just as the oppression of men led to the MGTOW movement as well. |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Kobojunkie: 12:57pm On Aug 19, 2021 |
efficiencie:Oppression is indeed a leading reason but not an only reason. Women yearn to be regarded as equals as their existence is known to be of equal importance to the human race as that of men. So, even in your utopic land where women are second-class citizens but all the men wise and responsible beings, there will still be those women who want that second-class citizenship status revoked and given the same right as the other gender so they too can freely exist as the men do, even if that existence is live in squalor. Even a happy slave, whose master pampers him, yearns from time to time to sit as his master does, and even wear the same hat as he does. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by AlphaTaikun: 10:49pm On Mar 19, 2022 |
ImaIma1:@Imalma1, You're wise and have an elavated undertanding of what's going on. BALANCE is the keyword here! Some of the extremist feminist views are coming from those from broken homes or experienced TRAUMA from broken romantic affairs, and they NEVER bonded with their fathers while growing up. (The same can be said about violent, bossy and insecure young and older men who themselves may be on hard drugs or have seen their mothers experience verbal or domestic violence). What the young women (and men) should be emphasizing here and offline is HUMANISM, self-love and respect for mankind. |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by kazyhm(m): 11:36pm On Mar 19, 2022 |
traihit: Very good point. I personally don't take feminist serious because in actual sense, the movement didn't review anything new to human relationship as they claim. The women that endure whatever they term bad in marriage knew what they were doing.....and they understand the purpose of doing such...... feminist only achieved criminalization of sacrifices in relationships/marriages. Feminist also understand the deficiency in women against men hence, pretending to be fighting for a good cause by demanding standards be lowered for their inclusion in everything. The aftermath of the demands is that mediocrity should over-run competency. And as you can see, they won't even stop there, they're selling the idea that women are far better in decision making yet don't want to prove it by competing on a level playing ground, but want incentive and they want that to be included in the law..........feminists are simply double standard advocate. Infact, I watch on sunrise daily on channels....the women was talking about car seatbelt was designed against women...that was on this last international woman's day. They can't even constructively defend the movement without comparing themselves with men......and paint black virtually everything men created through blood and sweat......and they wonder why reasonable men will not support the movement. They claimed gender roles is a social construct....but can't provide statistical proves to back the claim....... A sport competition in the UK experimented this theory of gender makeup........this same gender equality society start crying foul that men wins women football championship. I was watching sky news the other day....the female soldier was claiming there is no conventional war anymore, therefore rigorous soldier grilling is of no use hence, should be abolished... because it affects women biology makeup, tremendous weight loss in women, reduced the chance of getting pregnant...etc which discourages women from joining special units in the military....... Who want to be dragged into the pronoun debate going on in the UK ? Credit to feminist. Women will continuously demanding for handouts rather than start producing results with the one they've gotten. They claimed leadership is not gender base however, no law prevent them from voting and be voted for in the past 60years of Nigeria independence....... It is even amazing how they excluded women that have messed up in leadership position in the past........but focused on men..that have contributed far more positively to the society. I don't respond to feminist. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by GloriousGbola: 12:43am On Mar 20, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Every person ultimately wants control of their own destiny, even if they will Bleep it up. Also, eventually you come to realise the overlords are not actually that much smarter or better or deserving than you, which is why colonised states started agitating for independence. When you go to obodo oyibo and see that the noisy District officer is just a bloke at the bottom of a pecking chain and not as omniscient as he pretends to be |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by theTranslator: 1:14pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
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Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by theTranslator: 1:21pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
What I know is that most contemporary feminists (often the loudest) just want to take the position of the present man. They don't really want equality they want superiority. |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by pansophist(m): 2:07am On Apr 15, 2022 |
The irony is that women that called themselves feminist don't practice feminism. Infact, men are feminist by actions, but women are by words. Show me a woman that really wants 100% equality and I'll show you a hero. 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:17pm On Feb 15 |
Where Folake4u and Magnoliaa. E don tey oo. How una dey? |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by folake4u(f): 3:28pm On Feb 15 |
AmazonTopaz: Happy New Year to you. 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:43pm On Feb 15 |
folake4u:Same to you o. 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by folake4u(f): 4:44pm On Feb 15 |
AmazonTopaz: I hope you've been good? 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Eunoiaa(f): 5:22pm On Feb 15 |
AmazonTopaz: 👀👀👀👀 Queen Mother. It's truly been ages. Mortals have been boring me largely; been chilling with the gods. 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by CHRISTFUCKER: 5:34pm On Feb 15 |
Nothing like feminism Just a bunch of bittered man hating lesbos with daddy's issues galavanting under the canopy of feminazism The truth is men and women are not equal, they can never be equal 1 Share
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Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Jman06(m): 5:37pm On Feb 15 |
What we have in Nigeria are pseudo feminists who like to think they're feminists whilst still clutching tightly to all the undue benefits patriarchy gave to women. If you claim to be a feminist whilst still wanting men to fight wars alone, provide for family alone, open car doors for you, pay your bride price, come out at night and face anything threatening the family etc, you're nothing but a confused human being and should go to hell with your feminism. 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:34pm On Feb 16 |
Eunoiaa:I greet you. Queen maker. I have outgrown Nairaland. Trust you are doing well. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:34pm On Feb 16 |
folake4u:Yes. I am ok. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by folake4u(f): 11:39pm On Feb 16 |
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Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by pussyphilia(m): 11:53am On Feb 17 |
My problem with you Nigerian feminists is that you don't want to take the mantle of leadership and control in marriage and relationships, but will still expect men to do that. There are submissive men like us who'll want to be under your control but you'll prefer going for the anti feminists patriarchal men. Such men can never allow you to thrive as feminists. |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Eunoiaa(f): 5:30pm On Feb 17 |
AmazonTopaz: Quite understandable. I'm great! I hope you're doing beautiful as well. 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:04am On Feb 19 |
Eunoiaa:Yes, I am thank you. Have a blessed week. 1 Like |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by pocohantas(f): 10:28am On Feb 19 |
Jman06: It is your fellow men constituting nuisance by robbing and making earth inhabitable. It is your fellow men that created bride price and are the recipient. Men makeup 98% of lawmakers. So if you guys are tired of paying bride price, please abolish it. If you are tired of going to war, stop causing trouble. You are not going out to fight women. But men like you that you never call to order until they become national demons. Most households in Nigeria are two income. The few that are one income most times have the woman handling the home. So I wonder why you make life difficult for yourselves, only to blame "pseudo feminist". 4 Likes |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Jman06(m): 12:13pm On Feb 19 |
pocohantas:When Queen Elizabeth 1 sent British soldiers to invade and conquer Nigeria, I guess she was a man? Nations go to wars and for different reasons and women can also instigate wars. You can start your feminism by telling your father and his kinsmen not to collect bride price whenever you're getting married. I have opened car doors for my women on several occasions and I have also pampered them in many other ways. So, I wonder how you managed to know that I have never opened car doors for a woman. |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by pocohantas(f): 12:56pm On Feb 19 |
Jman06: I don't need to start because he has no semblance to you that delights in whining on Nairaland. He also knows bride price is a symbol of commitment. Not a proof of ownership. If you don't want to pay, there are many women willing to cohabit. There are also men that can marry you. Stop acting like you must pay bride price. Options abound! Then stop opening. They didn't force you. Or take your complain to the women you opened door for. You didn't open door for any feminist and 99.9% of Nigerian men do not open car doors for women. |
Re: Why The Attack On Feminism?(a Feminist Perspective) by Jman06(m): 1:07pm On Feb 19 |
pocohantas:You see, you now termed it symbol of commitment! Incase you don't know, bride price is symbol of ownership in our African setting. That is a man's wife is seen as his property. The white people you copy in your feminism nonsense don't pay bride price. Feminists in the western world don't relax their aszes and expect men to carry their responsibilities like the pseudo feminists in Nigeria. Don't worry poco my love, I'm ready to bend my rules, open car doors for you and also pamper you in many other ways. You know I love you. |
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