why do you think the organisation,club or whatever you support or follow is the best?
and beside,he declared himself as the "best" as the one true god,as the way,life and truth
read all other religion books and find where their gods was confident to say that
none of them could say it

There is only one God. There can't be two 'gods' because that will mean confusion.... and GOD is not a God of confusion.
The problem is how many 'KNOW' Him?
Jesus said, 'and this is life eternal, that they may know You and Jesus Christ Who Thou has sent'. John 17:3.
There is only One God... the Almighty. He sent Jesus. The question with doubters is, do they know This God Who sent Jesus?

Why is the man in your house - Father.

Not every other man on the road.

Why are you yourself - I.

Not every other person on earth.

Tamaratonye1:
This is an honest inquiry into the mindset of religious people. I won't bother typing a long wall of text for sake of time.

My question to the Christians here: why are you atheistic about every other gods but yours?

Lets have an honest, logical discussion. My schedule will not allow pointless back and forths, so trolls will be duly ignored.

Because the only God that makes promises and fulfilled them is found in the midst of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

thorpido:
There is only one God. There can't be two 'gods' because that will mean confusion.... and GOD is not a God of confusion.
The problem is how many 'KNOW' Him?
Jesus said, 'and this is life eternal, that they may know You and Jesus Christ Who Thou has sent'. John 17:3.
There is only One God... the Almighty. He sent Jesus. The question with doubters is, do they know This God Who sent Jesus?

Why can't there be multiple gods? You people like to use houses as an analogy for the universe and say that just as there is a builder of a house there is a creator of the universe. Well houses are built by more than 1 person yet they are able to do it in harmony so why can't there have been multiple gods working in harmony to build this universe?

AYNL:
why do you think the organisation,club or whatever you support or follow is the best?
and beside,he declared himself as the "best" as the one true god,as the way,life and truth
read all other religion books and find where their gods was confident to say that
none of them could say it

Zeus declared himself the greatest god so does that mean he is real?

LordReed:


Why can't there be multiple gods? You people like to use houses as an analogy for the universe and say that just as there is a builder of a house there is a creator of the universe. Well houses are built by more than 1 person yet they are able to do it in harmony so why can't there have been multiple gods working in harmony to build this universe?

There are indeed multiple gods, just as there are mulitiple fathers. I have a question for you. Which of the multiple fathers in the world fathered you?

this thread is definitely gonna be derailed by irrationalities.......I don dey see them up there small small. Muslims believe theirs is the only true god likewise Christians,most havent even thougt for themselves and question things since they were born and they may never till they die.

Tamaratonye1:
My question to the Christians here: why are you atheistic about every other gods but yours?

Lets have an honest, logical discussion. My schedule will not allow pointless back and forths, so trolls will be duly ignored.

Atheistic about every other God but mine?

Well, gods exist out there but there is No other God besides the God that I serve - He is the Adonai, the Most High. My God uses those other gods, who are in essence under him, to accomplish His Will here on earth.

thorpido:
There are indeed multiple gods, just as there are mulitiple fathers. I have a question for you. Which of the multiple fathers in the world fathered you?

Only one because only one can biologically. Doesn't still tell me there aren't multiple gods. In the old days there was a god for everything and that makes more sense than a single all powerful god. Our societies are based on cooperation so why can't a cooperative society of deities exist?

Tamaratonye1:

My question to the Christians here: why are you atheistic about every other gods but yours?

Lets have an honest, logical discussion. My schedule will not allow pointless back and forths, so trolls will be duly ignored.

Simple! When you obtain a Good Thing, common good sense dictates holding on to it.

During travels if the vehicle you are traveling with is Good and Enjoyable, it is normal for reasonable people to stick with it.

Same theory applies for wives and husbands and teams.

No one changes a winning Team.

AYNL:
why do you think the organisation,club or whatever you support or follow is the best?
and beside,he declared himself as the "best" as the one true god,as the way,life and truth
read all other religion books and find where their gods was confident to say that
none of them could say it

Sweet!

Not One did!

The Amazing Amazing thing God did!

No other one anywhere.

It is now their followers not their gods themselves would attempt to say so.

But we All see how very very weak their claim is and will be.

LordReed:


Only one because only one can biologically. Doesn't still tell me there aren't multiple gods. In the old days there was a god for everything and that makes more sense than a single all powerful god. Our societies are based on cooperation so why can't a cooperative society of deities exist?

I like your words in bold......... and i say to you, 'because only One can 'spiritually'. There are indeed multiple gods and they play different roles The bible says in a great house there are many vessels., not only gold or silver but also wood .... 2 Timothy 2:20
Indeed there are multiple gods but like you said, only one can SPIRITUALLY.

MaxInDHouse:


Because the only God that makes promises and fulfilled them is found in the midst of

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

And not in where 2 or more are gathered in His name? Lol.

thorpido:
I like your words in bold......... and i say to you, 'because only One can 'spiritually'. There are indeed multiple gods and they play different roles The bible says in a great house there are many vessels., not only gold or silver but also wood .... 2 Timothy 2:20
Indeed there are multiple gods but like you said, only one can SPIRITUALLY.

What does spiritually mean?

Also I thought you said there was only 1 god?

LordReed:


What does spiritually mean?

Also I thought you said there was only 1 god?

Spiritually simply means beyond physical or material things.

No, i didn't say there was only one god. I said there is only One called the Almighty.

thorpido:
Spiritually simply means beyond physical or material things.

No, i didn't say there was only one god. I said there is only One called the Almighty.

Nope there are several, Zeus and Odin come to mind.

Ok so how are we supposed to know about things that are beyond physical or material things?

LordReed:


Nope there are several, Zeus and Odin come to mind.

Ok so how are we supposed to know about things that are beyond physical or material things?

Well,a branch of knowledge called metaphysics deals with many things spiritual.
Man is a spirit. If he seeks knowledge, he will find it.

thorpido:
Well,a branch of knowledge called metaphysics deals with many things spiritual.
Man is a spirit. If he seeks knowledge, he will find it.

* Man is not a spirit. He is born a physical beings of the clay of this earth, just as Jesus Christ explained in John 3 vs 1 -8. It is only when man is born-again or saved that man experiences a spiritual birth. I.e. obtains a spirit of his own- Ezekiel 36 vs 25-27

Kobojunkie:
* Man is not a spirit. He is born a physical beings of the clay of this earth, just as Jesus Christ explained in John 3 vs 1 -8. It is only when man is born-again or saved that man experiences a spiritual birth. I.e. obtains a spirit of his own- Ezekiel 36 vs 25-27

Man is a spirit. Job said in Job 10:11,'You have clothed me with skin and flesh and you have knit my bones and sinews together'. If he said you have clothed me with skin and flesh, what me was he talking about? The me is the human spirit.
When a man gets born again,he receives a newness of the spirit.

thorpido:
Well,a branch of knowledge called metaphysics deals with many things spiritual.
Man is a spirit. If he seeks knowledge, he will find it.

Metaphysics is amorphous and can conceptualise pretty much anything, what it doesn't do though is establish a concrete base on on which we can claim to know a thing. If I asked you what a spirit is, would you be able to tell me and show me what it is?

LordReed:


Metaphysics is amorphous and can conceptualise pretty much anything, what it doesn't do though is establish a concrete base on on which we can claim to know a thing. If I asked you what a spirit is, would you be able to tell me and show me what it is?

Spirit is invisible to the naked eyes just as much as oxygen is, nevertheless we can't deny the existence of oxygen.

thorpido:
Spirit is invisible to the naked eyes just as much as oxygen is, nevertheless we can't deny the existence of oxygen.

I can show you by way of demonstration that air exists, can you show me by way of demonstration that spirit exists? Meanwhile you did not define what spirit is.

thorpido:
Man is a spirit. Job said in Job 10:11,'You have clothed me with skin and flesh and you have knit my bones and sinews together'. If he said you have clothed me with skin and flesh, what me was he talking about? The me is the human spirit.
When a man gets born again,he receives a newness of the spirit.

I do not know, if you know that, that moneyjunkie is a different specie of Anti-God who looks like he is a Lover of God, but he is not.

The second LReed guy, is a Satanist, Recruiter and Promoter of Hatred for God.

He is a deadly snake that is very very cunning. He always does this to his prey looking all reasonable and all before he swallows them up. so Watch Out.

thorpido:
Man is a spirit. Job said in Job 10:11,'You have clothed me with skin and flesh and you have knit my bones and sinews together'. If he said you have clothed me with skin and flesh, what me was he talking about? The me is the human spirit.
When a man gets born again,he receives a newness of the spirit.

When the first man was created, a son of God, the clay of this earth was all God used, this before God breathed Life into the clay - a physical birth, same as that of all other animals that God created. No mention of Spirits.

When man fell, and God condemned man for his sins, God decreed that man would cease to exist, as it was before he was made by God, when he died. The breath of life in him returns to God and and is clay again returned to the earth from which he was made. He didn't have eternal life and so no mention of spirit or anything existing of him existing afterwards.

Jesus Christ explicitly stated that the only birth a person experiences when first born into this world is a physical birth. And He said this while trying to explain what it means to be born-again to Nicodemus. Are you suggesting then that Jesus Christ because your assumptions of what Job said has to be true?

LordReed:


I can show you by way of demonstration that air exists, can you show me by way of demonstration that spirit exists? Meanwhile you did not define what spirit is.

The spirit is simply the non-physical part of a human being where the emotions, character and soul dwells.
Jusr like you can demonstrate the presence of oxygen using sophisticated equipments like the electron microscope, the presence of spirits can also be detected using electromagnetic field detectors and other equipments.

Kobojunkie:
When the first man was created, a son of God, the clay of this earth was all God used, this before God breathed Life into the clay - a physical birth, same as that of all other animals that God created. No mention of Spirits.

When man fell, and God condemned man for his sins, God decreed that man would cease to exist, as it was before he was made by God, when he died. The breath of life in him returns to God and and is clay again returned to the earth from which he was made. He didn't have eternal life and so no mention of spirit or anything existing of him existing afterwards.

Jesus Christ explicitly stated that the only birth a person experiences when first born into this world is a physical birth. And He said this while trying to explain what it means to be born-again to Nicodemus. Are you suggesting then that Jesus Christ because your assumptions of what Job said has to be true?

That breath of God is God giving man his spirit.That spirit is what makes man alive When the spirit departs from a man, then he is dead.

thorpido:
The spirit is simply the non-physical part of a human being where the emotions, character and soul dwells.
Jusr like you can demonstrate the presence of oxygen using sophisticated equipments like the electron microscope, the presence of spirits can also be detected using electromagnetic field detectors and other equipments.

We know that emotions and character are aspects of a functioning brain and body, without either there'd be no emotion or character. So what role does the spirit play?

Wow you are the first person I think I have ever heard say spirits can be detected by em field detectors and other equipment. So has anyone demonstrated this? Is there data we can look at?

Dtruthspeaker:


I do not know, if you know that, that moneyjunkie is a different specie of Anti-God who looks like he is a Lover of God, but he is not.

The second LReed guy, is a Satanist, Recruiter and Promoter of Hatred for God.

He is a deadly snake that is very very cunning. He always does this to his prey looking all reasonable and all before he swallows them up. so Watch Out.

Thanks for the heads up bro. I know kobo's interpretation of scriptures is somehow. It is what i have always observed like someone who folliws mormon or a sect like that.
As for L'reed, i'm trying to know if he's truly ignorant about scriptures or dem dem.

LordReed:


We know that emotions and character are aspects of a functioning brain and body, without either there'd be no emotion or character. So what role does the spirit play?

Wow you are the first person I think I have ever heard say spirits can be detected by em field detectors and other equipment. So has anyone demonstrated this? Is there data we can look at?

No, you're wrong! Emotions are not entirely controlled by the brain but from complex network of activities from different centers in the body.
@second bold, please do some research. You'll find enough evidence on the net.

thorpido:
That breath of God is God giving man his spirit.That spirit is what makes man alive When the spirit departs from a man, then he is dead.

1. The breath of life is God's Spirit, not man's Spirit and this this breath of life was given to all living creatures including snails, nematodes, cockroaches... God is life and so the life that beats in every creature belongs to Him and writely it returns back to God to whom it belongs at the end. It is not man's spirit but God's spirit.

2. However, when Jesus Christ mentioned that man ought to be born-again, He clear stated that man was all along a physical being - without a spirit of his own before salvation from God. Demons and devils for instance are spirits and their spirits remain theirs but man, according to Jesus Christ, was never created with a spirit of His own - John 3 vs 1 - 8 and Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22. Jesus Christ did not teach of a renewal of spirit as you claim... no! And God didn't speak of a renewal of Spirit either in Ezekial 36 vs 25 - 27 - instead Jesus Christ taught that a new birth of the spiritual kind was necessary for one to enter into the Kingdom of God and that such a birth meant a new life in the spirit - the breath of God remains in intact in man but additonally, man acquires an eternal spirit which remains with man eternally.

P.s- man was not created an eternal being by God. Man forfeited eternity when he fell - Genesis 3 vs 20 - 22