Chidolalar:
■ If God is real and omniscient, that means he has already decided that we are going to hell before he even created us.
■ If his Gods mercy endureth forever then why didn't that mercy endureth forever right from d beginning when Adam and eve disobeyed God?

OKOATA:
■ So your response to number 3 is Nigerian school system brainwashed me. So what about those here on earth that won't hear the gospel of Christ will they find themselves in hell when no one told or preached hell to them? I have known you for always talking out of point so no need engaging you. Keep waiting on the lord till you reach 10,000 yrs.

Kobojunkie:
1. God said He only loves those who love Him, and those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments so why is He not allowed to punish His enemies- John 14 vs 15 - 23 & John 15 vs 9 - 11?

2. His mercy and compassion on His enemies He made known from the beginning, is not eternal, so are you certain it is God you have a problem with here?

3. I think the ones you should clearly doubt are those who feed you these ludicrous stories about God as it seems ignorance of His Truth is your major problem here.

Kobojunkie:
1. That book is over 1000 years old and the information recorded inside of it has not changed in over a millenia, so certain your ignorance of the information contained is not to be blamed on the book but the readers inability to comprehend or better yet refusal to actually read in order to obtain understanding to help erase all ignorance.

Jesus Christ made clear that He brought Heaven and Hellfire down --- the Kingdom of God --- only for the Lost sheep of Israel meaning that all non-Israelites , whether they die before or after Jesus Christ, He has no business of any kind with. Equally, only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hellfire are located meaning Hellfire and Heaven are of no concern to even those of the Losts sheep of Israel who never believe Jesus Christ.

If you are not of the blood of Jacob and you are not born-again, you have no business concerning yourself with God or Jesus Christ. Why do cloak yourself in a mask of ignorance all so you can meaningless meaningless assertions that are totally disconnected from that stated in the book pretending you are in some way affected or impacted?

Chidolalar:
■ It is you religious Fanatics that has embrace and allowed Unreasonable and unacceptable religious beliefs to make blind to reality.
■ D same enemies he created by himself by making d word imperfect and not forgiving them?
■ D same religious bible will tell u to forgive your enemies and yet God could not forgive his own enemies?
■ Whether u like it or not, religious beliefs will make u blind to reality and additionally, religious beliefs is d worst thing to ever happen to mankind and there is nothing u or any religious believer will tell me or to convince me to think or act differently

OKOATA:
■ Oga stop talking out of point jare. How many books have you even read? You feel you know it all, can I ask you how was God created? How long has our earth and other planets existed. You are talking about a book wa written a thousand years ago and no single photo of Christ, prophets or other important personel in the bible. So you think the bible was written 1000yrs ago?.
■ I laugh, you don't even know how long the earth and planet has been in existence but you know the Holy book is a thousand yrs old. Even those that were born before BC like Aristotle had their photos and sculpture till date. Better stop deceiving yourself with this 1000yrs ago phrase. The bible has been in existence long before 1000yrs..

Kobojunkie:
1. If you killed 1000 people and were sentenced to serve multiple life-terms as a result, is that so much different from God sentencing His "eternal" enemies to eternal damnation?

By the way, you kill 1000 people whether you accept Jesus Christ or not, the Law of the land wouldn't let you get away with your crimes. Accepting Jesus Christ also involves paying off your sins debt as Jesus Christ never promised to purge any one's records for Accepting Him. See, how this again isn't a God problem but a you-ignorance problem?

2. Unless your victims were all equally born-again, they have no chance of Hell to end up in Hell by the way.

3. If you know the religious ideas make no sense, why argue based on them? Why not counter them with facts instead??

Chidolalar:
■ D same Jesus who was quoted in d bible said if u accept me and repent from your sins then u will be forgiven? If dat is not a promise then what is it? Am countering Dem with facts!
■ It is you that is blinded with your crappy and completely NOT credible religious beliefs that choose to be blind to reality and basically wallowing in your religious delusions

Kobojunkie:
1. God is real and omniscient DOES NOT imply God decides who is going to Hell and who is not. The choice to have you created, He left to your mother and father. So if you are curious as to why you exist, look to your parents for that answer.

2. Gods mercy on the righteous endures forever, however, God's mercy on His enemies, the unrighteous, He made known from even the beginning, does not endure forever. After Adam and Eve sinned against God, as God made clear, they died that very same day -- less than 1000 years after they were judged by God. Adam and Eve ceased to exist after death as God decreed.

Chidolalar:
■ Is my parents not descendants from Adam and eve which was created by God?
So what d shit are u saying?
■ There is nothing like God mercy on the righteous endure forever bcuz God already made d world to be imperfect
■ D same enemies he also created
■ and bible quoted that we should forgive our enemies an yet he couldn't forgive
■ and allowed war to erupts in heaven and banish d enemy to earth?

Kobojunkie:
1. What was the process told you by the same Jesus Christ of how to go about repenting from your sins? The clue is found in John 8 vs 31 - 44. (Just so you know, it is only an ignorant individual that would claim you can repent by saying a prayer this since God made it clear He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous.) Picking verses from here and there ignoring everything else contained in the teachings of Jesus Christ renders you equally as ignorant as those you consider your opponents.

2. Clearly, I am not the blind one here since I am actually able to counter your ludicrous beliefs as far as Scripture by giving you what Scripture in fact says. I am not the one marking the delusions here.

Kobojunkie:
1. Did God force the ones who birthed your parents into having them or something? I don't understand your question at all.

2. Where do you get this idea that God created the world to be imperfect? Again, you continue to showcase your ignorance of what is in fact written in scripture. Yet you convince yourself that this is some intelligent way to argue against scripture? Come on!

3. God is not written to have created His enemies. Rather men chose to become enemies of God. Those who are enemies of God are men who chose, of their own volition, to reject the terms and conditions stipulated in the contract which they entered into with God.

4. Again, your National Constitution makes it a crime for you to kill a man, does it not? But that same Constitution allows your government to eliminate its enemies and impose the death sentence where necessary, does it not? So, tell me, are you certain you are properly reasoning this here well?

5. War in Heaven? Now you are on a roll! But these claims aren't scriptural as they are instead delusions drawn from that taken from a dream/vision without interpretation. Do you consume literally any of that which you see in your dream?

Chidolalar:
■ U are not countering anything but just living in your blind and delusion religious beliefs. So tell me what will a sinner or murderer do for him or her to get accepted by jesus since u are debunking my submission?

Chidolalar:
■ Did Adam force himself to be created by God of whom we are all descendants from(Adam) ?
God 100% made d world to be imperfect d very moment he could not forgive Adam and eve for disobeying him and by subsequently banishing Dem from d garden of Eden
....

Kobojunkie:
Ah, I see now! You don't believe people are to be held personally accountable for their choices. Rather it is the fact that they were created that is to blame for all they choose... look stop rambling and go read and comprehend the book much the same you would every other text written in human language.

Chidolalar:
■ Answer directly what I asked u.
Or is dat too difficult to do?
D same pple who descended from d first human God created(Adam) and who(Adam) was not asked to be created but found himself existing by a so called supreme Spirit?
Yes! For d fact there were created by a supreme spirit resulted in their various choices and volition.
If for d fact they were NOT created by a supreme spirits then there wouldn't have been any choices and volition made by them😂😂👌👌
Can u now c basis of my back and forth arguments with u that God truely made d world imperfect? 👌👌

Kobojunkie:
But your retorts are equally as ignorant as that of religious fanatics whom I regularly avoid engaging for my own sanity sake. Go read the book at least so you can argue from a point of intelligence. You can't actually think that by lopping religious nonsense which has no foundation in scripture but religious doctrines you are in fact intelligently arguing anything, can you?.

There's nothing rational or scriptural about any of your claims so far and I am done reading your yammering!

JoeEeL:


[b]All what uve wrote here, with all due respect, is ... some sense and not much sense.

Number 1, If you say there is attack on TIV in Nassarawa state, trying to pursue them to Benue state back, then why are there attacks in Benue state too?

Number 2, If you think there is attack focusing on TIV, then why are there attacks in all parts of the country?you dont need to respect me , but I do ... You. I am not from any part of that section of the country, I reserve my investigations, observation and reality on ground since you don't even belong to that area neither understand dynamics of Nigeria history, your hate won't also help you see what's on ground and be able to point out reality .U even don't know who you talking with in the first place, and your "Igbo kanu matter you brought here indicated who you truly are .I am not a bigot but stand for a truely peaceful and progressive Nigeria...plas Carey your bitterness and annger out of my territory, kanus matter is quite different from what we have here in d middle belt .I ow u no further explanation since u don't even know what's truely happening here

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Number 3, so you don't know TIV are indigenous to not only Benue, but also Nassarawa and Taraba? You nigerians are quite disgraceful, I have to be blunt here. Why do u people tend to always rely on the states created by Nigeria to form opinion about people and where they come from and their indigenous lands? How can you trust such a fulani-controlled crooked country like Nigeria? No wonder some of you believe Igbos are indigenous to only 5 states or that Yorubas are only sectioned to South West.

Number 4, and finally, when they are done with the TIV, they are coming for you! It won't be long that you people will understand what Nnamdi Kanu was calling for and many of you mocked him but when the repercussion boomerangs, it would by then be too late!

Gtwix:
This OKATA of a guy is sick,ignoramus

Kobojunkie:
But your retorts are equally as ignorant as that of religious fanatics whom I regularly avoid engaging for my own sanity sake. Go read the book at least so you can argue from a point of intelligence. You can't actually think that by lopping religious nonsense which has no foundation in scripture but religious doctrines you are in fact intelligently arguing anything, can you?.

There's nothing rational or scriptural about any of your claims so far and I am done reading your yammering!

Tompson88:
A Jehovah witnesse spotted[color=#990000][/color]
Hell exist but it's not for humans, that's where devil and his demons live, Heaven exist but only belongs solely to God, Yeshua, Cerubum and Seraphim, Arch angels, Angels, Baby angels and other powerful angels and the likes. When a man dies it's an everlasting unconsciousness, it will be like the same way how we never knew we existed in our mother's womb till we started to think we exist.

Talking about rapture, there's rapture happening everyday, when your loved one dies and leaves you behind is that not rapture? Hoping to wait since 2000years ago thinking Yeshua will appear in the sky is not gonna happen. Jesus/Yeshua is with us everyday so why would he still appear in the sky?

Chidolalar:


D same Jesus who was quoted in d bible said if u accept me and repent from your sins then u will be forgiven?
If dat is not a promise then what is it?
Am countering Dem with facts!
It is you that is blinded with your crappy and completely NOT credible religious beliefs that choose to be blind to reality and basically wallowing in your religious delusions

Chidolalar:


Is my parents not descendants from Adam and eve which was created by God?
So what d shit are u saying?
There is nothing like God mercy on the righteous endure forever bcuz God already made d world to be imperfect
D same enemies he also created and bible quoted that we should forgive our enemies an yet he couldn't forgive and allowed war to erupts in heaven and banish d enemy to earth?

Kobojunkie:
1. Did God force the ones who birthed your parents into having them or something? I don't understand your question at all.

2. Where do you get this idea that God created the world to be imperfect? Again, you continue to showcase your ignorance of what is in fact written in scripture. Yet you convince yourself that this is some intelligent way to argue against scripture? Come on!

3. God is not written to have created His enemies. Rather men chose to become enemies of God. Those who are enemies of God are men who chose, of their own volition, to reject the terms and conditions stipulated in the contract which they entered into with God.

4. Again, your National Constitution makes it a crime for you to kill a man, does it not? But that same Constitution allows your government to eliminate its enemies and impose the death sentence where necessary, does it not? So, tell me, are you certain you are properly reasoning this here well?

5. War in Heaven? Now you are on a roll! But these claims aren't scriptural as they are instead delusions drawn from that taken from a dream/vision without interpretation. Do you consume literally any of that which you see in your dream?

OKOATA:
Bros I have this book titled THE FALL, subtitled THE 24 ELDERS SCROLL 📜. It talked about how God/Ahavah was created from a very powerful light, how Jesus/Yeshua committed suicide by deeping his long nails into his heart and killed himself, it talked about how God formed the planets from his skin, hairs, nails, spit of God which is the sea and water that we drink today. How he created very powerful angels which are the Cherubim and Seraphim, How he created the 24 ELDERS which they are spoken about in the book of revelations, how he created the 12 Arch Angels and the likes. How the war in heaven started because Lucifer which was the first Arch Angel wanted to be like God and how war broke out in heaven etc. What I'm trying to say is that God didnt kill Luci then and he will never kill him now because he's the eyes of God. Now if God allowed Luci to be casted down to earth and let him roam and allow evil to fester on through the human beings he created, then why should God now punish humans to burn in hell when he himself casted devil down to earth to cause pain and anguish on humans. Lucifer is the apple of God's eyes, so we humans are not apple of God's eyes? Are humans more evil than the devil that when a man commits a little sin as little as lies such a person will go to hell? God never punished Luci for the evil he did in heaven so it's human that will now suffer for Lucia sin abi? Just like saying humans should suffer for Adam and Eve's sin for eating the forbidden apple..

DestinyNigga:

Have you died to know that we don't exist after death? Your dream alone is the answer to your question. If I pointed a gun at you when you are sleeping, will you know? But your spirit is somewhere wandering. That alone should tell you that apart from your body, something exist!

OKOATA:
Bros I have this book titled THE FALL, subtitled THE 24 ELDERS SCROLL 📜. It talked about how God/Ahavah was created from a very powerful light, how Jesus/Yeshua committed suicide by deeping his long nails into his heart and killed himself, it talked about how God formed the planets from his skin, hairs, nails, spit of God which is the sea and water that we drink today. How he created very powerful angels which are the Cherubim and Seraphim, How he created the 24 ELDERS which they are spoken about in the book of revelations, how he created the 12 Arch Angels and the likes. How the war in heaven started because Lucifer which was the first Arch Angel wanted to be like God and how war broke out in heaven etc. What I'm trying to say is that God didnt kill Luci then and he will never kill him now because he's the eyes of God. Now if God allowed Luci to be casted down to earth and let him roam and allow evil to fester on through the human beings he created, then why should God now punish humans to burn in hell when he himself casted devil down to earth to cause pain and anguish on humans. Lucifer is the apple of God's eyes, so we humans are not apple of God's eyes? Are humans more evil than the devil that when a man commits a little sin as little as lies such a person will go to hell? God never punished Luci for the evil he did in heaven so it's human that will now suffer for Lucia sin abi? Just like saying humans should suffer for Adam and Eve's sin for eating the forbidden apple..

OKOATA:
That guy fit argue from now till tomorrow, I no dey argue with those people. He will bring bible verses telling you you will go to hell for fornication now tell him the main culprit which is Adam and Eve did they go to hell for disobedience? But they will still find a way to twist everything. Anyone that believes in hell good for them bros.

OKOATA:
Read books you say no, who told you war didn't happen in heaven. People like you believe you have all the knowledge of this world whereas you can't even name all the components of your body from the top of your hair to the sole of your feet. You came into this world just like everyone else, did you know the events that happened in heaven and still happening now? Seek knowledge and stop assuming you know it all.