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He was never a real pastor. No use dz one wash churches. There are millions of good Churches.

Padipadi:
He was never a real pastor. No use dz one wash churches. There are millions of good Churches.

Examples of good churches please...

Again

Michael547:

Examples of good churches please...

Churches, Christians that try as much to stay out of scandal. Have you heard about Daystar Christian Fellowship? Headed by Pastor Sam Adeyemi.
You sef know say a good Christian is a definition of good life.

Padipadi:

Churches, Christians that try as much to stay out of scandal. Have you heard about Daystar Christian Fellowship? Headed by Pastor Sam Adeyemi.
You sef know say a good Christian is a definition of good life.

I love the fact that you mentioned a church name. So what about all other churches around, Do they not produce good Christians too?

Michael547:

I love the fact that you mentioned a church name. So what about all other churches around, Do they not produce good Christians too?

They do. I could v mentioned many churches but you ll relate scandals to them. I m aware of your wittiness so I had to give you a church name I can recall that's of little or no scandal cos that's what you ll capitalize upon.
Nevertheless, in truth, the body of Christ that preaches and practice in truth ll be known by their individual members.

Padipadi:

They do. I could v mentioned many churches but you ll relate scandals to them. I m aware of your wittiness so I had to give you a church name I can recall that's of little or no scandal cos that's what you ll capitalize upon.
Nevertheless, in truth, the body of Christ that preaches and practice in truth ll be known by their individual members.

Ok then....but if you last statement is true, it therefore means that all church leads to christ. Because is there any church that does not have an individual member that is a good Christian?

Michael547:

Ok then....but if you last statement is true, it therefore means that all church leads to christ. Because is there any church that does not have an individual member that is a good Christian?

A group of people doing what's right (involving worshipping, kindness etc and anything that we can call godliness) as ordained by God through Christ Jesus is known as a church. So anywhere you see a church doing this, it's a church. The werey man described in this thread looking for church growth juju isn't a Christian and his church isn't a real church.

Padipadi:


A group of people doing what's right (involving worshipping, kindness etc and anything that we can call godliness) as ordained by God through Christ Jesus is known as a church. So anywhere you see a church doing this, it's a church. The werey man described in this thread looking for church growth juju isn't a Christian and his church isn't a real church.

Almost all the churches I have seen has the characteristics of what you outlined up there.....including the ones that have some scandal....does that make them the genuine church?

Michael547:

Almost all the churches I have seen has the characteristics of what you outlined up there.....including the ones that have some scandal....does that make them the genuine church?

Can a man walk with total perfection?
Among the sheeps, there ll be wolves.
Focus on those you know that are doing well be it Christian or not.
So if you say almost all churches have members with good conducts, that means almost all churches are good.

Padipadi:

Can a man walk with total perfection?
Among the sheeps, there ll be wolves.
Focus on those you know that are doing well be it Christian or not.
So if you say almost all churches are members with good conducts, that means almost all churches are good.

Good...so my point is there was really nothing special about your particular church. It's just like all other churches.

Michael547:

Good...so my point is there was really nothing special about your particular church. It's just like all other churches.

Your point is pointless if you can't answer the following?
* What's your definition of speciality in a church or Christendom?

* What do you expect Christians to be doing that they aren't doing?

Padipadi:

Your point is pointless if you can't answer the following?
* What's your definition of speciality in a church or Christendom?

* What do you expect Christians to be doing that they aren't doing?

1)A good church is one who teaches the truth from the bible.

2) I expects all genuine churches and Christians to be in agreement when it comes to biblical doctrines.

Michael547:

1)A good church is one who teaches the truth from the bible.

2) I expects all genuine churches and Christians to be in agreement when it comes to biblical doctrines.

I gave you Daystar when you said I should give you sample.
Now you said I should mention traits and I gave you all you just mentioned. I assume you are an atheist. If you aren't, then it's absurd you are questioning the truth.
See ehn, Christianity is cool. We know there are bad eggs that pretend among them. But the good ones are the real Christians and it's due to them that there's peace worldwide.

Padipadi:

I gave you Daystar when you said I should give you sample.
Now you said I should mention traits and I gave you all you just mentioned. I assume you are an atheist. If you aren't, then it's absurd you are questioning the truth.
See ehn, Christianity is cool. We know there are bad eggs that pretend among them. But the good ones are the real Christians and it's due to them that there's peace worldwide.

Do different biblical doctrines in all churches represent the truth?

edunaragold:
This is one of the reasons why I hardly go to church,all I do Is pray and meditate at home,thank my Chi,and oluwa,be good,avoid sin and pray for forgiveness,yeah I try to do good too.,and how comes those ladies looking for husband in church never still see till now ,after they have rock life finish ,u will see them in choir or front seat saying reybabababa pastor ride on.
How A Native Doctor Killed A Pastor Who Came For Occult Power To Grow His Church by rafcrown(m): 2:26pm On May 27
The Ogun State Command has arrested a native doctor for allegedly killing a pastor for rituals.



Pastor Kalejaiye Ezekiel had allegedly visited the native doctor, Ogunkoya ,for some spiritual works concerning his Church and the witchdoctor, 48 , who claimed that he needed a man for rituals decided to use Ezekiel for the ritual.

Ogunkoya told the police that,” the pastor came to me for power so that his church would grow, I used the opportunity to use him for my personal job . I mixed some sleeping solution for the pastor to drink and he slept off moments afterward . As he dozed off , I picked a knife and slaughtered him. I am a native doctor and I have helped so many people including pastors who want their congregation to grow in the area.

That there are fake currency doesn't mean the real one doesn't exist. In the same sense, we still have genuine churches. Besides, two wrongs cannot make a right.

We have been instructed not to forsake the assembly of ourselves together - Hebrews 10:25.

Violation of this instruction is tagged a sin that will attract God's severe punishment and it could even cost you your salvation - Hebrews 10:26-31.

So, you must identify with a local church and be committed there if you want to make heaven. Otherwise, you are headed for hell.

Michael547:

Do different biblical doctrines in all churches represent the truth?

It depends on the truth you are looking for.
Didn't all Bibles reference Yahweh?
Didn't all Bibles talk about Jesus?
So which church ll talk and not talk about God or Jesus?
Pls, I m a Christian but at same time an alpha male. Call your oga atheist to come here with sense to ask questions. And if no get anything tangible to ask, let me buy breadi ati epa to chop and drink pure water jejely.
No dey disturb me if you v nothing better to ask!

edunaragold:
This is one of the reasons why I hardly go to church,all I do Is pray and meditate at home,thank my Chi,and oluwa,be good,avoid sin and pray for forgiveness,yeah I try to do good too.,and how comes those ladies looking for husband in church never still see till now ,after they have rock life finish ,u will see them in choir or front seat saying reybabababa pastor ride on.
How A Native Doctor Killed A Pastor Who Came For Occult Power To Grow His Church by rafcrown(m): 2:26pm On May 27
The Ogun State Command has arrested a native doctor for allegedly killing a pastor for rituals.



Pastor Kalejaiye Ezekiel had allegedly visited the native doctor, Ogunkoya ,for some spiritual works concerning his Church and the witchdoctor, 48 , who claimed that he needed a man for rituals decided to use Ezekiel for the ritual.

Ogunkoya told the police that,” the pastor came to me for power so that his church would grow, I used the opportunity to use him for my personal job . I mixed some sleeping solution for the pastor to drink and he slept off moments afterward . As he dozed off , I picked a knife and slaughtered him. I am a native doctor and I have helped so many people including pastors who want their congregation to grow in the area.

You seem to forget that the church is like a mighty hospital where all sorts of people come for healing from various different tlkind of spiritual sin sickness. Even some of the doctors and nurses need healing.


Except you are perfect, thank you anytime you go to any church, you also contribute your uncleanliness to the body of Christ

Padipadi:

It depends on the truth you are looking for.
Didn't all Bibles reference Yahweh?
Didn't all Bibles talk about Jesus?
So which church ll talk and not talk about God or Jesus?
Pls, I m a Christian but at same time an alpha male. Call your oga atheist to come here with sense to ask questions. And if no get anything tangible to ask, let me buy breadi ati epa to chop and drink pure water jejely.
No dey disturb me if you v nothing better to ask!

All scriptures talk about God and Jesus I agree. All churches talk about them too. But do all churches give the same details about who God and Jesus is? Some churches say that Jesus is not God but the son of God, while others say that Jesus is God. Are they all correct or which one is?

Michael547:

All scriptures talk about God and Jesus I agree. All churches talk about them too. But do all churches give the same details about who God and Jesus is? Some churches say that Jesus is not God but the son of God, while others say that Jesus is God. Are they all correct or which one is?

The bible states clearly Jesus is the son of God.
Those that said He's God are only trying to justify semblance of father and son's relationship.

No church is clean. There is a demon in charge of every church. You alone can make yourself clean by serving God directly.

guysbewise:
No church is clean. There is a demon in charge of every church. You alone can make yourself clean by serving God directly.

... and the demon in charge are men.... the same with even the religion of Judaism which God made known was not of Him. Religion — Judaism, Christianity, etc. — are of men and not of God.

Not a good thing.