coogar:

how so?
a man went to naija to marry - brought a wife to the states - trained her to the point of her making 6-figures and then she starts misbehaving cos her levels don change? that's cheating!

Is she a dog or a horse?

Sagamu, whether and co. whether y'all choose to accept it or not, fact is some men are selfish to the core of their beings and woman now know they have options. Abeg!!!

coogar:

how so?
a man went to naija to marry - brought a wife to the states - trained her to the point of her making 6-figures and then she starts misbehaving cos her levels don change? that's cheating!

Oh!!!!! BUT IT IS GOOD FOR THE MEN, TO MALTREAT THE WOMEN BECAUSE THEY WERE BROUGHT FROM THEIR VILLAGES? THIS IS NOT ABOUT EDUCATING ONE, WHICH MONEY DID THEY USE IN PAYING FOR THE SCHOOL IN THE FIRST PL;ACE?? NO BE STUDENT LOAN? THEY CAN'T EAT THEIR CAKES AND STILL WANT TO HAVE IT, I SAID IT BEFORE AND WILL KEEP SAYING IT, EYE DON OPEN, WE NEED TO BE MUCH MORE RESPONSIBLE IN ALL OUR DEALINGS ESPECIALLY MARITALLY, WHO IS A SLAVE OR A MONEY MAKING MACHINE, SO THAT SOME GUYS CAN ENJOY THEIR LIVES, EVERYBODY BOTH MAN AND WOMAN NEED AN UPGRADE. IF YOU RESPECT YOURSELF YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE RESPECTED.

ThiefOfHearts:

are you moremi? all these paranoid psychos on  this board sef

then use your brain and put the name of who you're addressing!
it's not my fault you are afraid to use the quote button.
when you post directly below me, i am inclined to think you are addressing me. . . .

naijababe:

Is she a dog or a horse?

Sagamu, whether and co. whether y'all choose to accept it or not, fact is some men are selfish to the core of their beings and woman now know they have options. Abeg!!!

what has dog/horse gotta do with? were we dogs/horses when our parents trained us in school?
some men are selfish of course, i would be the first to admit that but when a man goes to his village to train a woman up to a standard then the least the woman could do to repay him back is to stand by her man - not use her wealth to bite the finger that fed her.
you forget something important, without these men in their lives, they would be in their villages cracking palm kernels.

ronkebp:

Oh!!!!! BUT IT IS GOOD FOR THE MEN, TO MALTREAT THE WOMEN BECAUSE THEY WERE BROUGHT FROM THEIR VILLAGES? THIS IS NOT ABOUT EDUCATING ONE, WHICH MONEY DID THEY USE IN PAYING FOR THE SCHOOL IN THE FIRST PL;ACE?? NO BE STUDENT LOAN? THEY CAN'T EAT THEIR CAKES AND STILL WANT TO HAVE IT, I SAID IT BEFORE AND WILL KEEP SAYING IT, EYE DON OPEN, WE NEED TO BE MUCH MORE RESPONSIBLE IN ALL OUR DEALINGS ESPECIALLY MARITALLY, WHO IS A SLAVE OR A MONEY MAKING MACHINE, SO THAT SOME GUYS CAN ENJOY THEIR LIVES, EVERYBODY BOTH MAN AND WOMAN NEED AN UPGRADE. IF YOU RESPECT YOURSELF YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE RESPECTED.

yes, that same student loan paid for her ticket, processed her visa and housed her before she entered school, isn't it?
the modern day woman is ungrateful - if it's that easy, why didn't her own parents put her on the plane to study abroad?

i am not in support of men maltreating women - but let's call a spade a spade.
most nigerian women tend to misbehave whenever there's a little upgrade in their lives.

coogar:

then use your brain and put the name of who you're addressing!
when you post directly below me, i am inclined to think you are addressing me. . . .

or you could stop being a woman and not respond every damn thing.

who else have I called a homoseckual other than moremi. Gbegborun.

as for your gibberish on "upgrading", then stop phucking upgrading them abi? Bloody control freaks. They know they cant control the ones outside Naija, they go to tyhe village hoping they can "mold" and control siome naive girl, she wises up and then they get upset. Fools afraid of their own level. Now they are in prison like the manic dogs that they are.

ronkebp:

Oh!!!!! BUT IT IS GOOD FOR THE MEN, TO MALTREAT THE WOMEN BECAUSE THEY WERE BROUGHT FROM THEIR VILLAGES? THIS IS NOT ABOUT EDUCATING ONE, WHICH MONEY DID THEY USE IN PAYING FOR THE SCHOOL IN THE FIRST PL;ACE?? NO BE STUDENT LOAN? THEY CAN'T EAT THEIR CAKES AND STILL WANT TO HAVE IT, I SAID IT BEFORE AND WILL KEEP SAYING IT, EYE DON OPEN, WE NEED TO BE MUCH MORE RESPONSIBLE IN ALL OUR DEALINGS ESPECIALLY MARITALLY, WHO IS A SLAVE OR A MONEY MAKING MACHINE, SO THAT SOME GUYS CAN ENJOY THEIR LIVES, EVERYBODY BOTH MAN AND WOMAN NEED AN UPGRADE. IF YOU RESPECT YOURSELF YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE RESPECTED.

Ronke, the men are st'pid and selfish to think that they "own" their wives. However, there is something to be said for loyalty and gratitude. Women that come from their villages to the US and then think they are too good and special to stay with their husbands are not exactly saints, especially not if they leave their husbands for richer men.

ThiefOfHearts:

or you could stop being a woman and not respond every damn thing.
who else have I called a homoseckual other than moremi. Gbegborun.

you need to lose this attitude. you sound like almondjoy's twin sister.

as for your gibberish on "upgrading", then stop phucking upgrading them abi? Bloody control freaks. They know they cant control the ones outside Naija, they go to tyhe village hoping they can "mold" and control siome naive girl, she wises up and then they get upset. Fools afraid of their own level. Now they are in prison like the manic dogs that they are.

so men are control freaks for leaving the city girls who are already damaged goods and going to the village to find well-grounded women?
you need blood tonic!

Coogar, when men (Nigerian men -some though) start to appreciate the wives they have and not treat them as secondclass citizens in their own houses, they will be having good marraiges, as long as they want to remain with the '' i am the man and what i say and do is law'', then their arses will always be dumped.

I have an uncle, he used to leave in the States and he is back to Nigeria now (and that is one in a million), i can not explain the type of respect he accords his wife and children, the woman is the breadwinner, the man works too but the wife makes more than him, but you can never know, the woman adores her husband, loves her husband and does double shift for her husband to be able to build his house back home, i am so serious, if you see the mansion that was built for the husband back home, many people call her a fool even her family memebers, but she was willing to do that for her hubby because she felt her husband deserved it.

You don't expect to treat a woman like shit and expect her to revere you or hold you in high-esteem in return, respect begats respect.

Ofc most of the women are grateful. I think when the men start behaving like bush men, beating, refusing to join in housework etc then there is trouble.

the stress of working 40hrs plus is not funny.

moremi2008:

Ronke, the men are st'pid and selfish to think that they "own" their wives. However, there is something to be said for loyalty and gratitude. Women that come from their villages to the US and then think they are too good and special to stay with their husbands are not exactly saints, especially not if they leave their husbands for richer men.

Don't be deceived Moremi, that is usually not the case oooooo, some Naija men are mean and evil, if you see misbehaviours, you would be so surprised, i really think it has to do with upbringing, because i really do not know how men will grow-up to be monsters and expect another fellow human being to respect and love you back in return.

Some women lack the proper upbringing too and lack manners, but majority of the men are just nothing to write home about.

coogar:

you need to lose this attitude. you sound like almondjoy's twin sister.

so men are control freaks for leaving the city girls who are already damaged goods and going to the village to find well-grounded women?
you need blood tonic!

Cant say I care about what some random on the internet thinks of my "attitude".

and you are sounding mad ridiculous right now. How naive are you about "village girls", like are you being serious or is this tongue in cheek? No one can possibly be this clueless. when these insecure sniffling twits cant control a woman they resort to calling them things like "damaged goods", what does that even mean?   If this is about sex which apparently scares you people, you think sex isnt happening in villages?

This is the most reetarded discussion ever. Im just gonna assume you're being facetious.

ronkebp:

You don't expect to treat a woman like poo and expect her to revere you or hold you in high-esteem in return, respect begats respect.

and this is where the thread should end. There's really nothing more to be said.

anyway make i unsubscribe from this mess abeg.

armyofone:

Ofc most of the women are grateful. I think when the men start behaving like bush men, beating, refusing to join in housework etc then there is trouble.

the stress of working 40hrs plus is not funny.

my dear if it was just 40hrs work e for better, imagine working and doing overtime, caring for the children and family at large, some will see it as big deal!!!! but they really do not have an idea, no one can do it all, we all need help at one point in time, all these wahala tells on the body.

ronkebp:

Sagalulu!!! that article is so true!!!!! Naija men, when u are in America behave like the americans, or else you will be dumped by your wife. behave yourselves and stop chasing everything in skirts or abusing your wives, infact upgrade yourselves too not only your wives( educationally).

But they are responsible na? According to our "Analytical".  

You can choose to behave like Americans or choose to control your marital settings (it can be off or, if on, with good controls). That said, the men described in the article are not in my class. They are more like moremi.

naijababe:

Is she a dog or a horse?

Sagamu, whether and co. whether y'all choose to accept it or not, fact is some men are selfish to the core of their beings and woman now know they have options. Abeg!!!

Er, I think men have more options.

Secondly even though you are right about some men being selfish, I think woman are generally more selfish. Majority are way too selfish and some are adopting this stewpid Western philosophy that everything should be about women and a "real" man will fall in line.

Count me out of that brigade!

ronkebp:

Coogar, when men (Nigerian men -some though) start to appreciate the wives they have and not treat them as secondclass citizens in their own houses, they will be having good marraiges, as long as they want to remain with the '' i am the man and what i say and do is law'', then their arses will always be dumped.

I have an uncle, he used to leave in the States and he is back to Nigeria now (and that is one in a million), i can not explain the type of respect he accords his wife and children, the woman is the breadwinner, the man works too but the wife makes more than him, but you can never know, the woman adores her husband, loves her husband and does double shift for her husband to be able to build his house back home, i am so serious, if you see the mansion that was built for the husband back home, many people call her a fool even her family memebers, but she was willing to do that for her hubby because she felt her husband deserved it.

You don't expect to treat a woman like poo and expect her to revere you or hold you in high-esteem in return, respect begats respect.

you are just citing a case of an ideal woman here. . . . .if every woman has her attitude the world would be a better place.
more often than not,  the bad eggs clearly outnumber the good ones.

respect begets respect - i agree with that.
i will not watch a palm-kernel cracking woman lord herself over me because she's now a registered nurse - something she could not have achieved without me.
that said, i would not enslave her too - she's the woman in the house and her role in the home would not be altered just because she's been upgraded.

ThiefOfHearts:

Cant say I care about what some random on the internet thinks of my "attitude".

you wouldn't have replied if you didn't care - tell me another tale!

and you are sounding mad ridiculous right now. How naive are you about "village girls", like are you being serious or is this tongue in cheek? No one can possibly be this clueless. when these insecure sniffling twits cant control a woman they resort to calling them things like "damaged goods", what does that even mean?   If this is about sex which apparently scares you people, you think sex isnt happening in villages?

damaged goods are the breed of women who have lost touch with their roots and their african heritage. they want to be whiter than the white folks themselves.
nigerian women abroad can be nauseating with their attitude.

sex is happening in the village but not in the same obscene frequency it happens abroad. . . .but who wants to make a wh[i]o[/i]re a housewife?

This is the most reetarded discussion ever. Im just gonna assume you're being facetious.

maybe because you are a r[i]e[/i]tard!
integral calculus would look r[i]e[/i]tarded to a mad man.

ronkebp:

my dear if it was just 40hrs work e for better, imagine working and doing overtime, caring for the children and family at large, some will see it as big deal!!!! but they really do not have an idea, no one can do it all, we all need help at one point in time, all these wahala tells on the body.

this same excuse has been overused - women complaining about long hours at work. . . .
there are women in nigeria who work long hours too - they still come home and perform their duties as the wife. they don't make excuses!

why are the same nigerian women different abroad? a nigerian man is a nigerian man in naija or in any part of the world.
a nigerian woman is normal in nigeria but the moment she steps abroad, she wants to be like kim kardashian.

Nah the reetard title is more your speed. 

anything else?

Coogar i will be right back to give you your reply in regards to the work here and the work back home.

@ Coogar, you missed the point in my post. Fact is a what you are accusing women of is basically human nature. How is your analogy different from a woman that sacrificed her career for hubby's being replaced with a younger opeke any different.

@ Sagamu, i never said men didn't have options, the factt that they too many options is to their detriment, my point is that women are now aware that they have options.

naijababe:

@ Coogar, you missed the point in my post. Fact is a what you are accusing women of is basically human nature. How is your analogy different from a woman that sacrificed her career for hubby's being replaced with a younger opeke any different.

haha - elaborate please.
a wife sacrificed her career for her hubby and the hubby got a 2nd wife? are there still men in this our generation marrying 2 wives?

ronkebp:

Coogar i will be right back to give you your reply in regards to the work here and the work back home.

i know how it works in america/uk/netherlands or everywhere else in the world.

so because you work as a surgeon, you would gladly sit back and watch your husband do your dishes, clean the house, wash your undies?
over my rotten corpse! i would easily spend the rest of my life in jail rather than allow such!

coogar:

haha - elaborate please.
a[b] wife sacrificed her career for her hubby and the hubby got a 2nd wife? are there still men in this our generation marrying 2 wives?[/b]i know how it works in america/uk/netherlands or everywhere else in the world.

so because you work as a surgeon, you would gladly sit back and watch your husband do your dishes, clean the house, wash your undies?
over my rotten corpse! i would easily spend the rest of my life in jail rather than allow such!

I can only assume the bolded is a rhetorical question

naijababe:

I can only assume the bolded is a rhetorical question

lmao!

ronkebp:

my dear if it was just 40hrs work e for better, imagine working and doing overtime, caring for the children and family at large, some will see it as big deal!!!! but they really do not have an idea, no one can do it all, we all need help at one point in time, all these wahala tells on the body.

My dear Ronkis, you can't eat your cake and have it too. You can't expect a man to kill himself outside the home to provide for the family and then return home to help with the housework and babies. If both spouses are working, then they should seriously consider hiring help. I am a single guy and I have a cleaning lady come in every week. Married couples should also do the same (they aren't that expensive in the US). I have married Nigerian friends that employ full-time nannies for about $1k-$2k per month. It saves them a LOT of hassle and their marriages are better for it.

moremi2008:

My dear Ronkis, you can't eat your cake and have it too. You can't expect a man to kill himself outside the home to provide for the family and then return home to help with the housework and babies. If both spouses are working, then they should seriously consider hiring help. I am a single guy and I have a cleaning lady come in every week. Married couples should also do the same (they aren't that expensive in the US). I have married Nigerian friends that employ full-time nannies for about $1k-$2k per month. It saves them a LOT of hassle and their marriages are better for it.

naija women are too insecure to cope with having a cleaning lady come in every week.

so primitive even cave man can solve that problem

coogar:

haha - elaborate please.
a wife sacrificed her career for her hubby and the hubby got a 2nd wife? are there still men in this our generation marrying 2 wives?

i know how it works in america/uk/netherlands or everywhere else in the world.

so because you work as a surgeon, you would gladly sit back and watch your husband do your dishes, clean the house, wash your undies?
over my rotten corpse! i would easily spend the rest of my life in jail rather than allow such!

nothing wrong doing all that common. husband and wife should help each other, afterall it is their home.

armyofone:

nothing wrong doing all that common. husband and wife should help each other, afterall it is their home.

ok!

coogar:

naija women are too insecure to cope with having a cleaning lady come in every week.

That doesn't make sense! Nigerian women have always had domestic maids. Why would they be insecure about a cleaning lady that speaks little English?

moremi2008:

That doesn't make sense! Nigerian women have always had domestic maids. Why would they be insecure about a cleaning lady that speaks little English?

what has english gotta do with poking. . . . .the only time naija women have peace with domestic maids is when the maid is more than 60 yrs old.
but those young hispanics? you are asking for trouble!

coogar:

what has english gotta do with poking. . . . .the only time naija women have peace with domestic maids is when the maid is more than 60 yrs old.
but those young hispanics? you are asking for trouble!

Well, the solution is pretty simple: she'll have to clean the whole damn place herself!

Money good o!

See these old lonely men and their cats. I am so scared now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2099379/Bruce-Willis-heavily-pregnant-wife-Emma-Heming-shop-baby-supplies.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2099111/Ice-T-wife-Coco-poses-naked-nephew-posts-picture-Twitter.html

Bruce remarried and Ice T married a porn star

so much for "you cant turn a ho into a housewife", he's been married to that "ho" for a while now.

Considering what Arnold S did with his own latina housemaid. in their MATRIMONIAL bed, why would any man with a brain be surprised that some women arent fine with such arrangements

ThiefOfHearts:

Bruce remarried and Ice T married a indecency star

so much for "you cant turn a ho into a housewife", he's been married to that "ho" for a while now.

yes, ice-t is a very good example of a man!
when you are taking a husband home, take an ice-t wannabe. . . . .i am sure your folks would be proud of you!

Ok Coogar, i am back, say what?? what were you saying?? comparing nigerian women work and the people in diaspora, you still cannot compare oooo, Nigerians get a lot of cheap helps and even help from family members, imagine how a woman who has just put to bed in Nigeria is being cared for, peppersoup for one side, another person caring for the baby on the other side, another woman bathing for the mother on another end, the woman's own is to sleep and feed the baby whenever she can gan sef ni.

But in America, infact i started bathing my baby the second day after i left the hodpital, thank God for small change, we were able to get a cleaning lady, who wants to be spending and wasting money ontop cleaning lady,( by the time you add how much you are payiong her every two weeks, one will rethink it) i had a baby sitter when i resumed back at work, my mum was not happy at all because of the stress here when she came to visit, it looked like the country has been set up that way to stress people out, even my dad gan sef, was like i was stressing my self too much,  Despite say i still get hubby that helped, imgine not getting a helping hand atall and then you have a hubby that bosses you around at every little thing, common now, we are all human beings abegiii