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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 11:01am On May 09, 2013 |
FACT: Managers since 1986: Madrid - 24 Inter - 19 Chelsea - 18 Bayern - 14 Juventus - 14 Man City - 14 Milan - 13 Man Utd - Sir Alex THE GREAT THERE WAS, THE GREATEST THERE WILL BE. Only One - Sir Alex Ferguson 1 Like |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 11:04am On May 09, 2013 |
According to Skysports the Best 10 Signing of SAF: 1. Roy Keane. 2. Denis Irwin. 3. Eric Cantona. 4. Ole Gunner Solskjaer. 5. Peter Schmeichel. 6. Ruud Van Nistlerooy. 7. Garry Pallister. 8. Wayne Rooney. 9. Cristiano Ronaldo. 10. Nemanja Vidic |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 11:13am On May 09, 2013 |
Manchester United are close to making Old Trafford fans’ dreams come true and securing the return of Cristiano Ronaldo. According to the Daily Mail , an eventful day at Manchester United took a sensational twist as chief executive David Gill flew out to Spain for talks with Cristiano Ronaldo’s agent. Many believed the chances of Ronaldo returning to his old club would have been hit by the news that Sir Alex Ferguson is retiring at the end of the season, but this latest report would suggest the move may still be on. Real Madrid are being tipped for a summer overhaul this year with manager Jose Mourinho supposedly heading for Chelsea – losing their best player in the same transfer window would be a massive blow. Cristiano Ronaldo’s name will go down in Real Madrid lore after he scored his 200th goal for the club on Wednesday night and did so in only his 197th appearance. It is an astonishing record and the Portugal captain has always spoken of Sir Alex Ferguson as the man that accommodated his talent so it could blossom fully. Any deal to take Ronaldo back to Manchester United is likely to be an extremely expensive one, but recent reports have suggested some Old Trafford sponsors are ready to step in and subsidise the deal. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 11:23am On May 09, 2013 |
Why David Moyes iis a perfect succeesor David Moyes Five little words identified David Moyes as the next manager of Manchester United. An oft-repeated phrase on a dramatic day at Old Trafford pointed to a 50-year-old Scot, rather than the populist vote of Jose Mourinho. The right man to take on the most daunting job in football was to be ‘cut from the same cloth’ as Sir Alex Ferguson, revealed senior sources at United. There were other buzz words: ‘respect, heritage, youth development.’ The Premier League champions had already decided upon their man before rumours circulated on Tuesday night that this would be Ferguson’s last season – and before they had to issue a statement to the New York Stock Exchange yesterday morning. That was always going to be the case. Ferguson has worked too long and hard to build a winning structure over 26 years at Old Trafford to announce his departure without a succession plan in place. And in this, of all years, United were not short of elite candidates. It is a measure of their confidence in Moyes that in a summer when Jose Mourinho and Pep Guardiola would have been available, they opted for the Everton manager instead. Guardiola has already committed himself to Bayern Munich after a 12-month sabbatical, but it is impossible to imagine United would not have approached him before then if they believed he was the man for the job. Ferguson even met the former Barcelona coach in New York last December and could have sounded him out then if he so desired. Instead, when asked by chief executive David Gill for their input, Ferguson and – notably – Sir Bobby Charlton opted for Moyes. Charlton has repeatedly stated misgivings about Mourinho’s suitability for the job – even if a large number of United supporters have long-seen the Special One as the ideal candidate. That is certainly true of the Real Madrid coach’s record of success and self-confidence to fill such big shoes. But United wanted more. They wanted a manager with a proven commitment to developing youth, as Moyes has done at Everton. And they wanted a man for the long term. Again Moyes fits the bill after 11 years at Goodison Park, while Mourinho has never lasted much longer than three years in one place. Longevity may also have been a concern regarding Guardiola, with the Spaniard requiring a year out after just four seasons in top-flight management. Provided Moyes is a success, United could envisage him remaining in the job for a decade or more. The major question mark about his suitability concerns a lack of trophies on his CV and minimal European experience. The second division title with Preston in 2000 is the only piece of silverware he has won in 15 years of management, yet three LMA Manager of the Year awards point to his standing amongst his peers. Asked four years ago who he thought were the best current managers in the Premier League – not including himself – Ferguson listed Arsene Wenger, Moyes and Martin O’Neill in that order. In the years since then Moyes has guided Everton to fifth, eighth and seventh twice on a shoestring budget in Premier League terms. While it could be argued that Wenger’s star has fallen over the same period – O’Neill’s certainly – Moyes’ reputation has only enhanced as he continues to work minor miracles at Goodison Park. He might not represent the near-guaranteed success of a Mourinho, but it is easy to see why the Scot would be a much more palatable option for someone like Charlton. And as far as being cut from the same cloth as British football’s most successful manager, Ferguson has spoken in the past of the benefit of his own Glaswegian roots. Asked why so many of the game’s top managers hail from north of the border – Sir Matt Busby, Jock Stein and Bill Shankly – he said: “I think we’re back to the values we grew up with in the kind of places we came from. Hard work. Teamwork. Strong beliefs. ” That Moyes was born in Glasgow too will not have been a decisive factor, but Ferguson and United’s board have identified familiar traits in him. His own self-confidence in taking the job is another indication that he will not be daunted by the prospect of following a manager who has won 13 titles, five FA Cups and two Champions Leagues. Rather than seeing it as a poison chalice, he views it as an opportunity to showcase his talents on the biggest stage – just as he did when swapping Preston for Everton despite having no previous top flight experience. United stalwart Gary Neville puts the measure of the job into context. “Somebody will be extremely fortunate, they are going into a football club where everything is perfect,” he said. “The club will always move on. Manchester United is a massive football club. “People ask how you follow him, it is simple - play attractive football, bring young players through and win a championship.” It was a case of sink or swim for Moyes at Everton - a club high on tradition, but low on finance. And his ability to identify talent and build a strong team spirit on limited resources is the true testament of his achievements. It says much about his astuteness in the transfer market that Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini would have been among United targets this summer, even if he wasn’t about to head to Old Trafford before them. Moyes will not arrive with a self-appointed title – or even the fanfare that Mourinho would have commanded if United had opted to take the X- Factor approach and put the decision to the public vote. Neville adds: “They want someone to respect the history and tradition of the club, someone who is there for the long-term. The club does not go for quick-fixes. 'This will be a result for sanity back in football, the next Manchester United manager. I see scouting systems being ripped up, people being sacked, Manchester United don’t work like that. “Manchester United don't operate that way, they have an element of sense and there has been for the last 60 years.” |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:43pm On May 09, 2013 |
Mr_TA: Anyone worried about Rooney's departure since he and Moyes dont get on?Even me his biggest advocate is really pi$$ed off at him. He has not upped his game, worked on his technique or fitness. He is obese for a footballer and his stamina levels have dropped. I wish Fergie flung his boot in his chimpanzee face when he asked to be transferred instead of David Beckham. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by montelik(m): 2:24pm On May 09, 2013 |
Nothing has been confirmed regarding Rooney. Just a fortnight ago the media were reporting his eagerness to renew his contract. Regardless Rooney looks somewhat bored, and maybe a move would be best for him and united. he would leave england and overhyping of the press and maybe rediscover some of the fire and dedication to get in top shape once more and fulfil his potential, meanwhile we bring in or give other players with more enthusiasm an opportunity. at least 30m would be a nice starting point. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AlabaSlim: 2:30pm On May 09, 2013 |
Those clamourin 4 mou want to sacrifice utd's prestige/value/goodwill/repute for a pottash of porridge jus like the mistake @ madrid...i did take moyes's INEXPERIENCE to mou's 2-3yrs achievement. The issue here is this; what next afta mou's 2-3yr stint @ oldtrafford, mayb then utd will end up wit debts pilling up like 4ever, Image dead lyk madrid/chelsea/inter, etc only GOD knows what... Mou is only afta PERSONAL GLORY & not any club's repute, like fergi said 'i built a football club/legacy & not a football team'...there is a diff btw NYtimes, 1stbank,coke (fergi) & concord, savannah, limca (mou) n.b. I don't h8 mou but he has no LEGACY THAT WILL SUSTAIN UTD SHLD HE LEAVE i.e IF HE IS APPOINTED @ UTD |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:34pm On May 09, 2013 |
montelik: Nothing has been confirmed regarding Rooney. Just a fortnight ago the media were reporting his eagerness to renew his contract.It's obvious Rooney 's heart isn't at United anymore. So speculation will always be rife concerning his future. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 2:57pm On May 09, 2013 |
montelik: Nothing has been confirmed regarding Rooney. Just a fortnight ago the media were reporting his eagerness to renew his contract.Well that's great by me, as long as he is not sold to Chelshit or ManShit |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by IYANGBALI: 2:59pm On May 09, 2013 |
dademola: chelsea is bigger dan man utd. oya clap for ursef. R u happy now??bt serzly..r u dis d.u.m.b??yes he HIS |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:01pm On May 09, 2013 |
Alaba_Slim: Those clamourin 4 mou want to sacrifice utd's prestige/value/goodwill/repute for a pottash of porridge jus like the mistake @ madrid...i did take moyes's INEXPERIENCE to mou's 2-3yrs achievement. call it what you like but mourinho is far superior to moyes! moyes is british so i can understand the british media wanting one of their own to manage the most successful british club. however, there are certain issues to be explored. moyes does not have the man utd DNA - he's too cautious to manage man utd. the united DNA is playing to win at all times. at 2-2 or 1-1, you would never see united surrendering or playing for a draw. they keep going until the winning goal is scored. it's a shame that united even considered him. the pendulum would swing back to the etihad next season. clubs like arsenal, chelsea, liverpool and tottenham must fancy their chances. how many games has moyes won at anfield, old trafford, emirates, stamford bridge? he has approximately 6 months before he gets sacked - this wont end well! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by IYANGBALI: 3:01pm On May 09, 2013 |
n0m0705:ol boy we must not allow Fergie to go o,dat baba na winch |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:03pm On May 09, 2013 |
Moyes confirmed. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by IYANGBALI: 3:04pm On May 09, 2013 |
coogar:I hate mou he is too arrogant for my liking,moreover he is a prostitute |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:06pm On May 09, 2013 |
Everton statement: "Everton can confirm that David Moyes will leave the club at the end of the season. The manager met chairman Bill Kenwright early yesterday evening and confirmed his desire to join Manchester United. "The chairman, on behalf of the club, would like to place on record his thanks to David for the massive contribution he has made to Everton since his arrival in March 2002. He has been an outstanding manager. "During his tenure at Goodison Park, David has taken charge of the team on over 500 occasions including four European campaigns. Everton officials will start the search for a replacement manager immediately." |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by IYANGBALI: 3:06pm On May 09, 2013 |
RuuDie:I wonder o |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AlabaSlim: 3:08pm On May 09, 2013 |
Everton have confirmed moyes will be leavin @ the end of the season to MUFC... coogar:@cooga May God 4give me but swear that mou wud have FARE better @ everton given the limited resources; mou has never & wud never coach a valencia, leverkusen, villa, roma, lazio, alth madrid, etc GOD keeps us alive we shall see ur 6mths prophecy |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:12pm On May 09, 2013 |
Alaba_Slim: Those clamourin 4 mou want to sacrifice utd's prestige/value/goodwill/repute for a pottash of porridge jus like the mistake @ madrid...i did take moyes's INEXPERIENCE to mou's 2-3yrs achievement.Well unless you live in the future, there's no way you can be absolutely sure Mourinho will not be at United longer than 3 years. Moyes is a great manager, and I will support whoever is appointed, but to say the club will be in disarray if Mourinho is appointed *& leaves* is not very articulate. We all know Mourinho has gone round the top leagues & teams, seen it all & done well for himself *i agree with you on that*, but he'll definitely see this job as a challenge to surpass Sir Alex's achievements. He may bring in his own style of doing things *who says anything is wrong with that*, but the foundations, laid principles, legacy of Manchester United as a team will always be his guideline. People say he's more into spending & doesn't care about youth development, but I disagree. Mourinho has always been signed up by clubs who need quick fix & are very impatient, as well as have board of directors who want to have a say in player transfers & recruitment, even match-day selections! At United, Mourinho knows he has got job security, time, free hand, support *from fans & board itself*, & cash if need be. The youth system is already great, its left for the youth team coach to recommend a line of action, & together with the head coach, look into it, be it promising talent for scouting or for promotion of youngsters who has shown promise. This is just my personal take by the way, what the hell do I know about football administration |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:14pm On May 09, 2013 |
Everton has a fast paced and a high tempo style of play. This season they beat City two nil with ten men and came from behind in many games. They boss the midfield which is something positive to be introduced to United. They hardly give up till the last whistle. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:14pm On May 09, 2013 |
IYA NGBALI: I hate mou he is too arrogant for my liking,moreover he is a prostitute he's not a pröstitute..... there's progression in jose's career. he went from porto to chelsea to inter and then to real madrid. his final bus-stop would have been man utd before he manages a national team. jose would have given us at least 5 years - long enough for any of our ex-players to garner enough experience in football management. solskajer, neville, giggsy, scholes, etc would have come of age by then. this idiotic scottish solidarity will not work well. how's moyes even suited for this job? is he a fergie carbon copy? how many youth players has he produced since rooney? is he suited to united's cavalier approach? how much fire is in his belly to replicate what lord fergus achieved at old trafford! thank heavens our fans are spoilt - moyes has 6 months to either sink or swim. i hope he swims! elampiro: Everton has a fast paced and a high tempo style of play. This season they beat City with ten men and came from behind in many games. They boss the midfield which is something positive to be introduced to United. They hardly give up till the last whistle. and this win was at the etihad? in his time at everton, i have seen more adventurous and attractive sides produced by villa, spurs, city(before the thai mogul and the oil money), southampton, swansea, even bloody redknapp's portsmouth at one point. and i am not just talking about 'hoofing it to the big man'. i have never seen that ruthless streak in him to really kill off teams with the ruthlessness of martin o'neill's aston villa or bobby robson's newcastle. these are the issues. moyes will go one goal ahead and keep it tight by hanging on till the final whistle. if he's not scottish, he wouldn't have been considered...... |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 3:24pm On May 09, 2013 |
@ Coogar, love it or hate it...we are stuck with Moyes and the majority are cool with it! I can stomach a "struggling UTD" with Moyes at the helm than a Mourinho who will scamper at the slightest hint of trouble...and don't try to sell me that "Mourinho is always successful" crap - he is not above the law of diminishing returns; and me thinks, right now he seems to already be on that down-ward spiral. Good luck to him wherever he crash lands! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:40pm On May 09, 2013 |
RuuDie: @ Coogar, moyes is the microcosm of what mourinho is - you can't dispute that! mourinho gets the job done and don't liken his stints in those other clubs to how he would manage at united. chelsea had not won a league in 51 years until mourinho did. madrid had not played in the final of the champions league for more than a decade and inter were also-rans till jose joined them. the atmosphere is different at old trafford. mourinho is joining a squad of champions. giggs has won more in his career than jose. jose will not be breaking any records of his predecessor.he knows he would just be here to steady the ship, not that he would be offering any ground-breaking managerial innovation. we are way way different to all the teams jose has managed in the past! what will jose win at united that hasn't been won before? ordinary carrick has won 5 league titles - how would jose talk him down like he does to pepe or carvalho? those are the issues you guys are not looking at. mourinho has run out of football clubs to join. that he is even considering going back to chelsea should tell you his time as a club manager is almost over. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:57pm On May 09, 2013 |
Name: David William Moyes. Scot: Checked. Youth Lover: Checked. Loyal: Checked. SAF's Choice: Checked. Task: Knocking Liverpool off their European Perch. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:02pm On May 09, 2013 |
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2013/May/manchester-united-appoints-new-manager-david-moyes.aspx david moyes appointed - fergie is a bastard! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Emperoh(m): 4:03pm On May 09, 2013 |
This sort of Coogar's hair raising though looking premised on some evidence is baseless. I think United management and board more than you and i are in a better position to critically view things. You and I are no soothsayer to say Mourinho will succeed or that Moyes will fail. The fact that Fergie is up stairs buoys me to be optimistic. No one and i mean No ONE can fit into those shoes and i dare say this with all manner of arrogance. Fergie's shoes are too big! Yet someone has to do that job. It is an opportunity to see what someone with not so much success pedigree will do. What makes an institution are ideologies, philosophies and processes. Man U has built all those and with the help of Fergie. I do not expect any coach who comes here to do any less hence the need to seek for someone who fits exactly into the sort of structures that built. You will most definitely hear institutions tell you that they recruit more for character and then train people into what they want them to be. This is the case and i expect that whoever Fergies suggests to take over will have his support in advices. On the business side, do you think that with the sort of investment and debt hanging over this club, that the Glazer's will allow just anything to go? I think not. But i am dead sure they will allow for a rebuilding process. What concerns me more is some continuity in terms of institutionalizing what we already have and not some instant success that will fizzle away. That is what we are Man United and no other club. The Youth side won't die because Moyes came; JM never groomed any youth side. The system's at Old Trafford won't fail because Moyes came; they will only be improved upon. We have been complaining about a weak midfield and we get someone who concentrates a lot of his team around solidity of his midfield and Coogar is complaining. Moyes might be the product of some Scottish conspiracy, but i prefer him to another 5 year wonder. If the fire is burning in him? Yes, the challenge of working and scaling up the records at United is enough for anyone to be zealous. As for Mourinho, he's enjoyed some good moments with little or no career dip. That dip has started with his stint at RM and may last for a while. It is a law of nature. Who's with me on this? Please let's give Moyes the chance to succeed biko!! 2 Likes |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:06pm On May 09, 2013 |
6-year contract! so this is what it's all about? alex ferguson told us he would be leaving us in safe hands - he left us with a tactically weak manager. i would rather we signed di canio! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 4:08pm On May 09, 2013 |
coogar: You don't want to get it, do you? The underlining criteria UTD board have ultimately used in selecting the Manager is LONGEVITY - between you and I, does Mourinho guarantee that!!? Lets drop it already abeg...and start to focus on life afresh on a new page with a new man at the helm. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:09pm On May 09, 2013 |
Report card coming in gradually.
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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:12pm On May 09, 2013 |
RuuDie: what is longevity? who cares about that? the primary reason for having a club is to win titles - not who has spent 3000 years in one position. laudrup won a title already and moyes hasn't for 11 years. check out the brand of football played by both sides.......compare their budget and get back to me. one dinosaur exits and another one enters......nonsense! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FBS: 4:18pm On May 09, 2013 |
well we all knew it and said it. Moyes oh Moyes. so some manure fans will stop watching footie now!  |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Emperoh(m): 4:23pm On May 09, 2013 |
coogar: I wonder if this stands on it's own. It just happens innit? No dude, it takes the creation of a stable back room process. Ask Chelsea and they will tell you! Let it fly dude, Moyes will have all he requires to do well 1 Like |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 4:34pm On May 09, 2013 |
coogar: I don't see how your raving changes anything...Moyes is it! Not all of us like that decision; but we will not "revolt" against him like fans of some other club would because in the end, it serves no good whatsoever! |
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