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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:20pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
wow,didn't know a thread like this existed oo...lemme sign in I think for lvg to save face before he eventually leaves this season is to qualify us for UCL....I'm not talking about top 4,but winning d Europa,cos to b realistic,lvg can't make top 4 now...d ship has sailed... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 3:39pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
Spy360:This, When you have a serial failure like Wenger as manager, I'm not surprised you can say this. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 5:23pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter:Mourinho was sacked for not winning the UCL,Carlo was sacked for not winning the league...... Madrid don't appoint you to win something, they do so you could win everything..... All the Madrid players you mentioned won the LA liga,something the current Madrid are dying to repeat.... The argument is about if they flopped and there is no way Costa and Fab are flops |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:50pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
bigkesh: Carlo wasnt sacked for not winning the league, You think if Carlo had won another CL last season without the league he would have been sacked? Madrid fans would forever remember the man who won them La decima and not the man who failed to win La decima Almost all those players you listed as bought by Mourinho have all been sent out of Madrid now Ozil, DiMaria, Coentrao, Callejon, Khedira so what did all the transfers achieve? Costa and Fabregas are not flops yet Chelsea isnt even in top half of the table |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 5:55pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter:You think if Mourinho had won the league by 100points that season he would have been sacked?? You think Madrid fans will forget the season they scored 4 goals for every goal they conceded? The season they won with 100 points?? They will forget the best team in the history of LA liga? Even the barca fans won't forget.... Stick to the argument.... Will Madrid fans have nothing to write about Maria ,Ozil,khedira,Callejon? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:04pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
bigkesh: Its still a league title and far inferior to the La decima which Madrid have suffered for until Carlo came Ozil, Khedira and Callejon contributed nothing to their Le decima win, the biggest trophy in Madrid history for the past 13yrs Mourinho would have been sacked regardless since he didnt win the cl. Immediately after the CL ouster he made the statement "I am going to where I am loved, I know in England I am loved especially one club" He knew it was the CL for him or bust on the Tuesday after the CL loss. He gave up. despite having the league and Copa del rey to play for |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 6:08pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
Mourinho to United is a done deal..... Sealed and delivered, maybe not signed yet |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 6:11pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter: He didn't have the league to play for,they were way behind... The UCL is the other choice left and that explains the speech.... Ozil and co didn't win the UCL because they weren't there but when they were they didn't flop.....simple Didn't Madrid fans protest Ozil and ADM sales? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:18pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
bigkesh: Protest which sale? They were glad both left because they actually felt Ozil showed a weak mentality and not willing to fight for the shirt. and dimaria left for money to a team not even in CL They were way behind in the league but not mathematically out. He failed to win the CL and he knew that was the end. I say If Carlo had won just the Copa del rey last season he wont be sacked but for Mourinho it was CL or bust after CL loss he knew he was getting sacked La decima is the most important trophy to Madrid and Mourinho failed to win it with all his purchases. Carlo won at first attempt |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 6:28pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
patrickmuf:Simeone, Possession?
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 6:28pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter: http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/real-madrid-fans-disrupt-bale-presentation-ozil-protests-3978319 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2410973/Cristiano-Ronaldo-angry-Mesut-Ozil-transfer-Real-Madrid-Arsenal.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2733072/CONTINENTAL-BREAKFAST-Real-Madrid-fans-want-Angel-Di-Maria-stay-fellow-Manchester-United-target-Arturo-Vidal-makes-Juventus-return.html I think that's case closed |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 6:29pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
chidexxy007:Imagine oooo...Giggs,AVB..... Some guys are funny |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 6:33pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
Sir Alex Ferguson has told a leading Member
of Parliament (MP) that Tottenham’s
Mauricio Pochettino is the best manager in
the Premier League.
Pochettino has recently been linked with
Louis van Gaal’s job at Manchester United,
with many drawing comparisons between the
Argentine’s style and the long-held
philosophies of the Old Trafford club.
And his qualities have not gone unnoticed by
the legendary former United boss, according
to MP for Tottenham, David Lammy.
The Labour politician told The Spurs Show
podcast: “I’m going to let you into a secret.
About six weeks ago I sat next to Sir Alex
Ferguson at a dinner in support of grassroots
football abroad.
“He said to me ‘I think you guys have got the
best manager in the Premier League.’”
Ferguson’s words will come as another blow
to Van Gaal, who has been forced to field a
number of difficult questions relating to his
future in recent weeks amid speculation
former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho may
be about to take his job. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:35pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
airmark: I will respond to you properly later. I must tell you first that Suarez doesn't deserve to be there. I will tell you why when I get home. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 6:37pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
elampiro: Ok barca fans like coded01, dmcdad and mum, bykebyke, barcablood will also be waiting for you. Europe best 11 so far this season. It's going to be interesting bigkesh: Do you think dayo knows anything apart from his burnthisleaguedown? He will still come and tell you that it was ozil german fans that protested not true real madrid fans |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:38pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
bigkesh: On the other hand, Real Madrid's supporters are praising their president Florentino Pérez for what they consider a "steal" or a "pay dirt". Some fans have even hailed Perez for committing "white-collar theft" against United. "Di María is the best sale in the history of the club, no doubt", tweeted Tomás Arroyo (@fresstac), a Real Madrid fan, yesterday. This is a very popular opinion at Santiago Bernabéu, even when you consider that James Rodriguez's performance's are far from the outstanding level shown by the South American winger a year ago. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/angel-di-maria-spanish-fans-mock-manchester-united-flop-hail-real-madrid-white-collar-theft-1490443 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 6:46pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
So Depay played with his mates last Monday?.. that's very good and long may it continue till his senses comes back... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 6:48pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter:Carlo winning the CL at first attempt ridicules your theory of Jose leaving teams behind in a mess. You can't have it both ways. And regards not actually winning the CL, i'd say he really improved them.I remember he met a madrid team that couldn't go past the round of 16 for 6 consecutive years ( suffering humiliations like losing 4-0 to liverpool) but he vastly improved their fortunes in Europe and they reached the semi-finals of every CL during his time there but this was a failure to Perez who exactly isn't the most reasonable person. Pep was handed over a Bayern team, champions of Europe( and reached 3 CL finals in 4 years) but hasn't been able to go past the semis but i know you are always quick to defend him and not label him a failure. What would have been Pep's fate if Perez was his boss? You are really confused. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 6:51pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
elampiro:me sef they interested I gat no love for Barcelona but I no fit Go that far. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:07pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
GBR1: Di matteo took over AVB team and won the CL within the same year, Would you say AVB didnt leave a mess? If Hiddink should win the CL this year would you say Mourinho didnt leave a mess at Chelsea Ancelotti came did his independent work and won what Mourinho couldnt win with the same players If Pep in your opinion is a failure after winning 2 league titles then what would we call him if he didnt win anything or ended trophyless like Mourinho did at Madrid |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 7:18pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
Odunharry:I hope this is purely coincidence and not Fergie trying to influence the choice of the manager like he did the last time with Moyes which was really disastrous to begin with. He should simply enjoy his retirement in peace and not cause more problems for the club. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 7:37pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter:Then i'm not sure you really understand what it means to leave a team in a 'mess'. So tell me again which teams he left in a mess? Winning the German league title even 3 consecutive times but not being able to go past the CL semis with a team that won the treble the previous year and made 3 CL finals in 4 years is not good enough. We can at best say he had a good time at Bayern, but not a great time especially relative to years of success already being enjoyed by a great club. Success is relative. How did Mourinho end up trophyless at Madrid? what nonsense is that? He won the league by record points and goals, and currently that's the only league title Madrid has won in 8 years. He won at least a trophy every single season of his stay at Madrid and even in his final season he won the Supercopa de España against Barcelona. Stick to facts and stop pontificating. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:45pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
Chai!! Chineke!!! We should sign AVB?? Where did United get this kinda fans from?? Have we not learnt our lessons from Moyes?? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:52pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
airmark: Goals [b]Ibrahimovic = 78.2 minutes per giak Bale = 89. 5 minutes per goal Suarez = 94.5 minutes per goal Minutes per Assist Bale = 145.5 mins Ibrahimovic = 205.4 Suarez = 315 Minutes per chances created Bale = 30.6 Ibrahimovic = 58.7 Sharez = 72.7 Minutes per dribble Bale = 44.8 Suarez = 78.8 Ibrahimovic = 91.3 Accurate passes per game Ibrahimovic 37 Accurate /46 total passes Bale 23/29 Suarez 18/25 * Suarez makes only 18 accurate passes per game, 25 total despite playing in a possession obsessed team. * Suarez unsuccessful touches and dispossessed per game almost twice of that of Bale. .......... I looked at Suarez's stats recently, I think it was in December, I saw that he was being fed in Barcelona. When I went back to his Liverpool stat, there was so much difference. Whoscored look at all these factors. Messi takes the ball and goes past two men before before scoring or Assisting a goal, whoscored will record every effort put into that goal; the distance covered, the two succesful dribbling, the solo effort, etc. But when another gets a tap-in goal, he gets only credit for the goal. On Gomez, whoscored also looks at a number of important stats. Saves vs number of shots, Saves vs point bank Shots, Saves on one vs one situations. Errors leading to goal. I must mention too that the solidity of the defence also determines a goalkeeper's exposure. [/b] |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 7:55pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
elampiro:Can you do a comparison with Lewandowski included? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:00pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
@elampiro did you check Suarez's last season with pool? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 8:02pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
AdeLaNa1:Some say we should get Mauricio Pochettino, and it appears we have learnt nothing. This decision regards choice of manager especially at this point in time is so important that we cannot afford to get it wrong again. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:06pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
GBR1: Goals = 65.1 Assist = 1,583 chances created =131.9 Successful Dribble = 56.5 Accurate Passes = 18/21 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 8:08pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
airmark: What is going on? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:14pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
GBR1: Mourinho left Madrid in a mess. The whole team was fighting the pro Casillas and anti casilass camp. A team divided against itself can never win. Carlo mended in the first season brought so much harmony and they won the Copa and La decima at first season Winning the German league title even 3 consecutive times but not being able to go past the CL semis with a team that won the treble the previous year and made 3 CL finals in 4 years is not good enough. We can at best say he had a good time at Bayern, but not a great time especially relative to years of success already being enjoyed by a great club. Success is relative. Trebles are extremely difficult to win which is why only 6 teams have won it in the past 40yrs. No one would hire a coach and tell him his mandate is to win a treble. when only 6 people have managed it in 40yrs. Juup was only able to win a treble in his last year as a coach. To judge a coach by not winning treble isnt smart. Ferguson won a treble in 1999 he couldn't win another treble till he retired, Would you say ferguson was not great relative to his past performance? How did Mourinho end up trophyless at Madrid? what nonsense is that? He won the league by record points and goals, and currently that's the only league title Madrid has won in 8 years. He won at least a trophy every single season of his stay at Madrid and even in his final season he won the Supercopa de España against Barcelona. Stick to facts and stop pontificating Mourinho in his last season was trophyless. What is Supercopa espana? a pre season friendly? the equivalent of Charity shield? there are 3 major trophies in a yr League, Cup and CL. Not one yeye supercopa espana or Charity shield. You think if Arsenal fail to win the league FA cup or CL anyone would care that they won a pre season Charity shield? Mourinho fled Madrid after not being able to win La decima and ended the last season trophyless 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:17pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
SIRcumalot: His Successful Dribble was 31.9 that season, and that wasn't close to his best for Liverpool. His dribbling has reduced drastically at Barca. Chances created every 33 minutes 38 passes per game. * He was more a hunter and s finisher in Liverpool. Now he is being fed. The reason he is able to score and Assist more than when at Liverpool. He has all the support. Despite this, he is still behind Bale and Ibrahimovic. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 8:19pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
elampiro: What's the quality of psg oppositions in ligue one. Dont be surprised a player in burundi league may cop better stats than ibrahimovic but put him against a poor team like troyes, he will be wandering more than bolton players. No one must say cos he has better stats than ibra he is a better player, far from it. Suarez in psg may even have better stats than what ibra has got. Fact is all those things you used to relegate suarez are faulty. A bale will have more assists ratio than suarez cos of his role. A striker having messi and neymar doing the dribbles and even scoring should nt be blamed if he has lesser assists and even goals but yet suarez has done well. We all know how ibra fared in barca. Scoring 20 in 21 in la liga is more impressive than scoring 21 in 20 in french league. Dmcdad, bykebyke ibra sh1ts on your suarez. |
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