IKON360:

Not all DMs have more passes than CMs, some SMS drop deep to pick the ball. If Pogba drops deep to pick the ball and orchestrate play, it doesn't mean Pogba is playing DM. In Liverpool, Fabinho is the DM but you often see Henderson dropping deep to pick the ball but Wijnaldum rarely drops deep to pick the ball and both of them are CMs...

Always read to understand. Thank you.

afrodoc2:


After investigating the lineups and heat maps as well as reviewing archival footage. My judgement is that this is the most accurate assessment of the situation.

We play a double pivot of 4-2-3-1 which makes determining who is DM very difficult.

Matic and anybody = Matic is DM and the other person is CM

Pogba and anybody = Pogba is CM and the other person is DM

Fred and McTominay = Pure double pivot essentially with Fred covering the left and McTominay covering the right. However in more than half of the games together heat map shows Fred more active in slightly more defensive positions while McTominay more active in slightly more offensive positions.
In many of the games it is just too difficult to tell. In double pivot you usually have 2 CDMs and not the obvious division of labour you might see in a 4-3-3 with DM, CM, AM.

This is why the same whoscored that said McTominay played DM 19 times and CM 3 times also says Fred played DM 21 and CM 6 times, and Pogba played DM 8 times and 2 sub appearances with 0 appearance as CM.
Essentially saying all of them played mainly DM this season and CM very few times.

This is astute, for Man utd, I think the reason Fred is more active in defensive positions is to build up play not necessarily that he has a better defensive contribution than McTominay, look at the France side that won the World Cup, Pogba was often times deeper than Kante and Matuidi because he was a better passer than them though they are better defensively than him. Look at Pirlo for Italy and Juventus, Pirlo was deeper than his fellow central midfielders, not cos he is a better DM but cos of his passing range and ability to boss the midfield. So I think that's what's applicable to Fred and McTominay, Fred is the better passer but McTominay for me is the better tackler.

IKON360:

Exactly, even Pep's Barcelona, Xavi CM always had more passes than Busquets the DM. Not all DMs are passers. Kante and Matic under Conte, Matic played deeper than Kante but Kante had more interceptions and general defensive stats, so it depends on the system.
Thank you

If your Nairaland account Is not older than theirs, you can't be right.



Fred the DM

Oasis007:
Gary Neville: "What annoyed me about Tevez was that he downed tools in his second season, starting sitting on the treatment bench, coming out late for training, started messing around, he was playing the club and I couldn't stand that."

- Sky

Typical of majority of South American players. Indiscipline is in the DNA of majority of them.

If they had half the discipline of their European counterparts, no European player will even be smelling world best for a long time and their countries will be taking turns in winning the world cup every world cup year.

The fact that they achieved even this much shows how enormously talented they are, it's like they were born to play football

airmark:


Top striker.

Ighalo the boss
promptly made Martial sit up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBZO3QhDgQ

98/99 Season.

Oasis007:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBZO3QhDgQ

98/99 Season.

If only Daniel James scored more goals, I don't think Man utd will even be in the market for another winger

So apparently Man Utd has agreed a deal for Lyon's Moussa Dembele. Around 61million Euros. If this is true, what do you guys think about this deal?

I don't know if i've said this before but somewhere in my head, i've always thought of elrony and eph12 as twins of some sort. I can't explain it. It's like my brain keeps trying to find patterns connecting the two of them. When i see an elrony post, eph comes to mind and vice versa. Maybe it's the letter e.

pkasso:
I don't know if i've said this before but somewhere in my head, i've always thought of elrony and eph12 as twins of some sort. I can't explain it. It's like my brain keeps trying to find patterns connecting the two of them. When i see an elrony post, eph comes to mind and vice versa. Maybe it's the letter e.

Lol
What's in the post that makes you think so?

pkasso:
I don't know if i've said this before but somewhere in my head, i've always thought of elrony and eph12 as twins of some sort. I can't explain it. It's like my brain keeps trying to find patterns connecting the two of them. When i see an elrony post, eph comes to mind and vice versa. Maybe it's the letter e.

Hello sir, I'm with you too.

Sometimes, I've to scroll up to see if it's El or Eph. But I think Elrony is quite funny while Eph won't take a pun for a joke. IMO

adebayo201:


Hello sir, I'm with you too.

Sometimes, I've to scroll up to see if it's El or Eph. But I think Elrony is quite funny while Eph won't take a pun for a joke. IMO

Thank God. I thought i was the only one. Elrony aka elrunning Fake man of God

Eph has his funny moments also.

eph12:

Lol
What's in the post that makes you think so?

Bro, i don't know. I'm not a prophet but i think you guys might be connected in some way

In my head, i have this picture of how most people in this section look like based on what they say and my interactions with them. Their personalities, quirks and habits. It's like drawing up a profile. A sketch basically. And every time i think of you and el, the mental image i get is basically the same. Almost like you guys are one and the same person.

It's fuccking weird, i know.

adebayo201:


Hello sir, I'm with you too.

Sometimes, I've to scroll up to see if it's El or Eph. But I think Elrony is quite funny while Eph won't take a pun for a joke. IMO

pkasso:
Bro, i don't know. I'm not a prophet but i think you guys might be connected in some way

In my head, i have this picture of how most people in this section look like based on what they say and my interactions with them. Their personalities, quirks and habits. It's like drawing up a profile. A sketch basically. And every time i think of you and el, the mental image i get is basically the same. Almost like you guys are one and the same person.

It's fuccking weird, i know.

You're almost right sha. Elrony is my spiritual father

Oasis007:
Manchester United are monitoring Schalke’s Rabbi Matondo as a back-up option for Jadon Sancho. He’s viewed as more cost efficient if Borussia Dortmund outprice United for Sancho. The club regard him in the same ‘low-risk buy’ bracket as Daniel James.

- MEN

that Man city pikin

Hit or Miss.

Oasis007:
Hit or Miss.

Big miss. But I like the look of the green away one that leaked. I'll probably get that one.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11537856_6872babb1ae545dfb0e99706e0591f80_jpeg_jpeg99dcf87b3a0694e15b5cf863da65fba6
Mrta7
This one?

Oasis007:
Hit or Miss.

Hiss

sylvalord:
So apparently Man Utd has agreed a deal for Lyon's Moussa Dembele. Around 61million Euros. If this is true, what do you guys think about this deal?

As long as he doesn’t hamper Greenwood’s development. Na wetin concern me now be that.

Also, is he going to be a starter? 61 million is prolly too much for a potential benchee

Chrisus:


As long as he doesn’t hamper Greenwood’s development. Na wetin concern me now be that.

Also, is he going to be a starter? 61 million is prolly too much for a potential benchee

Meaning Ighalo will go back to China.

If we are not going to bench him, the best we can do is to Loan Greenwood to Germany and make sure which ever club he's loaned to , he must start over 80% of their games when fit

Chrisus:


Hiss

Confused are you.

MRTA7:


Big miss. But I like the look of the green away one that leaked. I'll probably get that one.

Not fascinated with it either.

Leyqute:


And coat it with amala