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Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by agiboma(f): 1:18pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Busy_body: rotflmao yes its does can i be first in line bb where u been miss u much |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Busybody2(f): 1:22pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
mazaje: i know one in 5 of pregnancies results in miscarriage, with the woman unaware. Do you know what it took that one sperm cell to reach upstream to fertilize the egg. Would be back with the book to discuss the mumbo jumbo, my brain hurts for now agiboma: Hiya babes, would be right back. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by moremi2008(m): 1:25pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
agiboma: Abeg, don't miss her! She is an original trouble-finder! I haven't seen one single thread that she has waltzed into that hasn't degenerated into a bloody fist fight! Smiling at you and prodding you with a stick at the same time. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 1:41pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Hello princess fagg0t. You need to come out of the closet. I know you were abused as a child and it has affected your reasoning. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 2:24pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Busy_body: Thank you. That’s what I got from her post too o. Busy_body: Listen to this woman, she doth speak sense! I’m actually a tad disappointed that the men here are joining in stigmatizing single mothers. Someone actually called the child a bastard child and I’m still cringing from that. What about judging someone for who they are and not for their past mistakes? |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Busybody2(f): 2:45pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
moremi2008: Choi, see defamation of character, don't you know you are talking to NL's Supermoderator of peace ni I can explain, part of my job role entails ferrying around tankers of water to douse any simmering tension before they flare outta hand, and as a woman with foresight, I love being prepared and don't like being caught offguard so I take along just one tanker of fuel only to power the water tankers. Imagine if I turn up at a filling station with my 10 water tankers, so you see I need that one petrol tanker jare. And sometimes in the "heat" of the moment, temperatures starts "rising", tempers "flare", emotions "ignite", some people start fanning the "flame" of discord. . . And before you know it there is a massive explosion, and guess who gets the blame "my innocent defenceless did I say innocent petrol tanker" See how unfair life is, you humanoids would blame anything |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Busybody2(f): 3:06pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: Thanks for that comrade. Yes there are a handful of immoral Nigerian ladies, but who is responsible for most ills and woes in that Country. Its always a man's world in Nigeria, they run things and women are always forever struggling to swim upstream and woe betide any woman that wants to come to the surface to draw breath. The OP is in her late 20's and the same peeps deriding her now are the same who in future would mock her unmarried state when she gets older, they would even query her fertility, as if marriage (ile oko) is the only yardstick worth describing a woman's life accomplishment, never mind what is happening in that marital home or if it is hell on earth for her. SMH. OP better bite the bullet and start living life one day at a time and have it at the back of your mind that a guy that refuses to date you for being an after-one, as they call it, himself was nothing to write home about in the first place, so it is their loss. Again your parents are only conforming to what the society would say about their moral upstanding for not raising you 3ightly", so no need to loose sleep over their vanity, na their headache be that, plus your Mum would come round with time, women usually do. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 3:46pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Busy_body: what you have written is a complete balderdash. . . the op is in nigeria for feck sake. if she's in the uk/usa where handouts are thrown at single mothers, yes - she can afford to keep the baby. that she's working does not mean she's comfortable. some people earn less than 20,000 naira a month in nigeria - how would that feed her and the baby. there's no husband which means she must stop working for x + y months in order to take care of the baby - who would help with her finances? you? nairaland? her best option is to get rid of the foetus. you opined no man has the right to terminate another life. you would have to convince me first that what is growing in her belly is a person. as long as the foetus is not in her last trimester, it's not in human form yet. it's just condensed blood - unless you think every time a woman menstruates, she has killed a child. our mentality as nigerians is still backward and it's one of the reasons why we are the most populous black nation and about 90% are living in poverty. why attach sentiments to what we both know it's not applicable? she cannot afford to have a baby - leave the mumbo-jumbo out of this and get real. why do people insist on bringing children they cannot take care of to this world and make the child suffer? what's the essence? busy-body, you look educated but what you typed above showed no evidence that you have ever been to a citadel of learning. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Busybody2(f): 4:05pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
coogar: Mr legs-can-be-used-to-determine-intelligence, una don advance to looks can be used to measure intelligence too Chai, see double insult - I am ugly therefore I am uneducated, anyway truth is bitter so I have no choice than to swallow it gracefully will be back with the pics of the elephant's legs I have been bandying all over NL to prove its all congealed blood until the third semester, wait for me oh |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 4:07pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
coogar: How do you know her financial situation? You are claiming what you don’t know as fact. If she says she can afford the child, would you advise her to keep the baby? I really want to know your answer to this. A baby is not in human form till the last trimester? And you question another person’s 'citadel of learning' |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 4:15pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: if she can afford the child, then why did she come here to complain fretfully?
of course yes. . . . what's in her at the moment is a zygote - a single cell. it is not a person because it possesses no brain and cannot do anything distinctively human: feel, love, think, know, choose, desire, commit, relate, aspire, know itself, know God, know its past, know its future, know its environment, or communicate with anyone. the zygote has no brain, no nervous system, cannot feel pain or whatever. it's just a single cell. how can you then conclude a single cell is a human being or a person? if this is your conclusion, then many women and doctors should be in prison for murder. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by oohunt: 4:18pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
@moremi2008, the fact that even those regarded as "holy" perform abortion does not make it right!!! The fact that it is common here and there does not make it right. This lady has come to this forum obviously because she is thinking of the abortion-way out. I will say it again, ABORTION IS MURDER. @moremi2008, please do not refer to my God as a god of abortions because He is NOT! He is the God of love, God of life, who loves children! And He sure says no to abortion. What would have happened to the full grown adult if his/her mother had aborted him/her when a foetus. Please do not use senseless and baseless statements to defend yourself. I have seen your trend on nl, you like to incite people. You can incite me, but dont call God names, He is not your match. Busy_body: Thank you! lol! |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 4:24pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
oohunt: oh spare me this mumbo-jumbo. . . . what would have happened to the full grown adult if his mother had aborted him when a foetus? if they could afford to take care of him, fine. if they cannot, terminate it and embrace full-time family planning! how the heck is abortion murder for feck's sake? why are nigerians so obtuse? if you know the number of times women often miscarry, you won't be here asking what would have happened. . . do they sit there and mourn what should have happened or they dust themselves and make another baby and take good care of the baby? |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 4:41pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
coogar: She is complaining about how her parents will respond and about her chances of getting married in the future. She did not mention anything about her financial situation. So you don’t really know that she can’t afford to have a baby. I want to know what your opinion would be if she can afford the baby. coogar: Coogar please stop now, you have no clue what you are talking about. First of all, you didn’t address your initial claim that it is not in human form till the [b]third [/b]trimester. A single cell at 2 weeks pregnant? In fact you’re henceforth forever disqualified from talking about the science of fetal development. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 4:49pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
mazaje: Guess what, 5 in 5 humans will die, does it make it okay for me to kill them myself? *I’m not anti-abortion, see my first post to the OP, it’s just some of the arguments for abortion that astound me.* |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 4:51pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: what has her parents gotta do with this? she's in her late 20s(so she said). . . . .in a developed country, she would have been on her own for more than 12 years doing her own thing. her chances of getting married in the future has nothing to do with her parents either. they have no part to play in it whether she has a child or not. the real mccoy is the extra baggage and the fact that she's still single in her late 20s. it's bad enough she's almost past her expiry date in terms of hooking a man. adding an unwanted baby to the situation would just blow the little chance she's got left.
you need another 4 years to be re-educated about human reproduction. if they should open this woman up today, what would you find in her? a full grown baby with a brain, limbs, nostrils, heart, eyes and skin? where did she say she's been 2 weeks pregnant? |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by ifyalways(f): 5:08pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
@OP,what's the situtation or decision now? Are you keeping the pregnancy?Have you informed the guy and what did he say? It's your body,your life.Decide and do what would favour you most,none of us typing pages here would be with you when you'd be dealing with the consequences of a bad decision. . . Being a single mother with absolutely no support from the childs father is no joke. Goodluck. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 5:10pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
coogar: But those what she talked about in her original post so clearly she is bothered by them. coogar: LMAO. Okay, from her post, how many weeks pregnant do you think she is? If you open her up at 2 weeks pregnant, you will likely find the blastocyst, a mass of cells. Not a single cell per your claim. By next week, the heart and brain are starting to form. Are you retracting your claim that the baby is not in human form till the 3rd trimester? Because you’ve been dodging the question |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 5:24pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: if she needs her parents' blessings to decide her own future then she's still a child
feck knows how many weeks pregnant she is. . . . .only a qualified gyn can tell the actual age of the pregnancy.
and this cyst can feel, love, desire, aspire, communicate, etc? you are a blastocyst!
retracting which claim? person-hood starts from birth not conception! the embryo is not a human being. . . .it's a life form. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
retracting which claim? Again, dodging the question! and this cyst can feel, love, desire, aspire, communicate, etc? At this rate, we will be here forever. You keep moving the goal post. I’m weary abeg you are a blastocyst! lol |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 5:45pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: you are the one not consistent with the premise of my argument. abortion is not murder - that's the koko. whatever she's got in her belly cannot feel, aspire, love, communicate, etc and so cannot be qualified as a human being or a person. for you to commit murder, you have to kill an innocent person. emphasis on person. and since there's no personhood attached to what the op is carrying as we speak - she's in her own right to do as she pleases. . . and she wouldn't be a murderer. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 6:08pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Ok, I tried to give you an out but you didn’t take it. Now we must fight to the end!!!! coogar: No. Your arguments that I challenged were that she only has a single cell in her right now and that the fetus is not in human form till the 3rd trimester. Arguments you have since failed to defend. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Busybody2(f): 6:09pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: He he he, see e-knockout, pele Coogar even i will concede that na only Jenny fit massage all your tangled and jangled and frayed nerves inflicted by the blows delivered by ileobatojo, sorry you will survive ehn coogar: Ouch, ha ha ha, I guess I spoke too soon, you are back on your feet like the okunrin meta you are and and Jenny's service is no longer required |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 6:14pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: i'll rather die on my feet than beg on my knees. my mentality: is no letleat no sullenda. you dunno who you're messing with. . . .
nah, mate! what brought me here was your opinion that abortion is murder. i simply corrected you that the fetus is not a human being/person. for it to be a person, it(not he or she) must be able to feel, communicate, touch, aspire, dream, etc. why ain't you defending that? |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Busybody2(f): 6:14pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: Er . . . favour please, can you guys break it down into broken English or yoruba sef, so that those of us who nor sabi wetin citadel of learning means, talkless of what people do with it, can understand. Oya the floor is open Coogar. Did you read what ileobatojo wrote, she called you out as an olodo, surely you shouldn't take that. And hey, no hitting below the belt |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 6:17pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Busy_body: i wouldn't argue human reproduction with ileobatojo that had d-minus in biology and an f-grade in her jss exams. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Busybody2(f): 6:23pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Yay I see Coogar is here, told you to be scared Ileobatojo Please Coogar, I failed citadel of reading in school, so no more than 5 lines maximum in each post biko, I take Baba God beg you Oya roll on the tonguelashing and insults, er. . . I meant education coogar: |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 6:27pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Busy_body: is that you in the profile? errrr, there's nothing busy in that body. |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 6:29pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
Busy_body: Busy_body: Chei!! See promoter! You don come with ya fuel tanker abi!! |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
coogar: Please, please show me where I said that. Do it o, quote it! When you fail, I’d like to once again re-direct your attention to your failed arguments that the fetus is a single cell and is not in human form till the 3rd trimester. coogar: Emi ke!! E mi walking encyclopedia fun ra mi! Meanwhile abeg, return the certificate back to that grammar school you attended. You know you didn’t go there to learn anything! |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by Zilja(f): 6:44pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
@ Poster My suggestion is for you to remove yourself from this fourm and do some thinking for urself. Here everyone means well but at the end of the day, you are still with your own thoughts. You know you family much better than anyone here. It might not be as bad as you really think. You are in your late 20's, life is now. No need looking back becaue things have already been done, just move forawrd I wish you well in whatever decision you make. There is not a Right nor a Wrong decision. Just the best for you. May God guide you and show you the way. He can do it! |
Re: Pregnancy: How Did This Happen Again? by coogar: 6:44pm On Feb 27, 2012 |
ileobatojo: quote what? what i read myself or what? i don't have time for such frivolities. besides, there must be a reason you haven't posted in hours - busy editing your jargons to score cheap brownie points.
my certificate? it's a template to aspiring nigerian scientists and engineers. if i scan my high school certificate right now - you would probably hang yourself for skipping biology classes in school and chasing men under the mango tree. |
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