coogar:

i reiterate - you are a bumbling oaf!
puyol's absence and the out of form piqué made up del bosque's mind to load up his midfield and sacrifice strikers. had villa been fit, he would have played on the left side of the attack......it had nothing to do with torres being useless or negredo/soldado's few number of caps. how many caps did pedro cop before the 2010 world cup? busquets had how many caps before 2010 world cup? so in your little brain matter, cesc has had more experience as a centre forward than llorente? you should donate your brain to the ape kingdom!

You must be high on Ekiti weed to come up with the Busquets comparison.

Pre 2010 Busquets was part of a functioning barcelona system , he had won the CL in 2009 as a regular. Spain was going to the WC and planning to use the Barca formation even had 7 starters from barcelona team whats more natural than to put as many barca players in the starting 11.

Lloriente is alien to the Barca style, He isnt even a NT regular yet you expect him to walk into the 11? Prove me wrong. If Villa was fit there was no way Spain would have played striker-less. They cant even wait to reinstate Villa into the lineup now despite the 8months layoff

dayokanu:
You must be high on Ekiti weed to come up with the Busquets comparison.

you are a rectum-loving gerbil!

Pre 2010 Busquets was part of a functioning barcelona system , he had won the CL in 2009 as a regular. Spain was going to the WC and planning to use the Barca formation even had 7 starters from barcelona team whats more natural than to put as many barca players in the starting 11.

playing for pep guardiola is different from copping international experience. if busquets was good enough to anchor for spain @ the world cup, then llorente was goood enough to have started for spain @ the euros - experience means shyte in the attack department -
younger players or inexperienced players are actually preferred in that area of the pitch!

Lloriente is alien to the Barca style, He isnt even a NT regular yet you expect him to walk into the 11? Prove me wrong. If Villa was fit there was no way Spain would have played striker-less. They cant even wait to reinstate Villa into the lineup now despite the 8months layoff

llorente is alien to the barca style but jordi alba was born with the barca style, isn't it? try another line of argument and stop embarrassing yourself! before euro 2012, jordi alba had a total of 4 caps for spain!

coogar: llorente is alien to the barca style but jordi alba was born with the barca style, isn't it? try another line of argument and stop embarrassing yourself! before euro 2012, jordi alba had a total of 4 caps for spain!

So this trogolyte doesnt know Jordi ALba is a La Masia product? Its like someone asking if Cesc was born in Barca style.

Jodi spent 7yrs of his youth at Barcelona from the age of 9 to the age of 16. Write that on your wall and recite daily.

playing for pep guardiola is different from copping international experience. if busquets was good enough to anchor for spain @ the world cup, then llorente was goood enough to have started for spain @ the euros - experience means shyte in the attack department -
younger players or inexperienced players are actually preferred in that area of the pitch!

Younger and inexperienced attackers are preferred? By whom if I may ask?

Name any country who has won the World cup starting with an inexperienced striker or less than 22..

How many countries have won the Euro cup starting with a striker less than inexperienced striker or striker less than 22.

How many teams have won the Champions league starting with an inexperienced striker or young striker less than 22.

You are a saphead for even spewing such rubbish.

have y'all seen the starting line up. torres is the only striker. i think rdm is smoking "ekiti spliff"?

where is Sturridge?

Chelsea: Cech, Ivanovic, Luiz, Terry, Cole, Mikel, Lampard, Ramires, Hazard, Oscar, Torres.

Subs: Turnbull, Romeu, Mata, Moses, Cahill, Azpilicueta, Bertrand.

dayokanu:
So this trogolyte doesnt know Jordi ALba is a La Masia product? Its like someone asking if Cesc was born in Barca style.

what a twerp! so jordi alba's education @ la masia of several years ago handed him a starting berth regardless of his inexperience @ international level in the most sensitive department in a team? your brain is a waste matter in your head - you should give it out to oxfam!

Jodi spent 7yrs of his youth at Barcelona from the age of 9 to the age of 16. Write that on your wall and recite daily.

you are talking to a wall because everyone on this section knows alba passed through la masia but he had played in a different setting before the euros. comparing him to cesc is also a daft analogy. fabregas played more than 100 games for arsenal in his teenage years - including champions league games throughout his career in england!

Younger and inexperienced attackers are preferred? By whom if I may ask?

you don't need any experience to be a striker - this is why players like michael owen, rooney, ronaldo, pele have all bossed tournaments in their teenage years. would pele @ 17 play for brazil in the defence? would rooney @ 18 play in the england defence in euro 2004? that's another education for your dopehead! younger players are preferred in the attack, players in their mid-20s in the midfield and the defence/goalie is where you need the experienced players!

Name any country who has won the World cup starting with an inexperienced striker or less than 22..

How many countries have won the Euro cup starting with a striker less than inexperienced striker or striker less than 22.

How many teams have won the Champions league starting with an inexperienced striker or young striker less than 22.
You are a saphead for even spewing such rubbish.

you are a glorified simpleton!
so until a young striker wins the world cup, he's not had a glorious performance in a tournament? dayokanu is singlehandedly the biggest tool ever. you have seen messi, luiz ronaldo, cristiano, rooney, messi, etc boss tournaments and you still ask why managers prefer young strikers in their teams?

Any of you over-confident muchachos still think Juve is easy peasy?

We said Torres is a disaster they asked why cant others score

Other scored but the main striker is still useless.

2 Points lost

As long as Chelsea depend on Torres for goals, they are royally screwed

DK is a mor0n - if you take a 2-0 lead at home against a side with the best defensive record in the major European leagues and can't protect it do you blame the striker or the dimwitted defenders who continue trying to play offside when it doesn't work?

Ivanovic kept getting caught out in the first half, Terry got caught out in the second half after Mikel daftly lost the ball and ONE pass cut out 4 players.

Chelski's defending is quite poor at the moment and cost them this game.

Dissapointing Draw. Shoulda held on!

Defense had been showing signs since pre-season. . . Luiz, Terry combo not looking good. Mikel Lampard combo dont look good either. They r both meant to be Dm's with one going forward and the other covering. most of the time they went up together and no one covering. and how is a DM suppose to ball watch when the ball is behind him(mikel). . And mikel's interview he goes "We switched off". Ninja you gave the ball away too many time. . . And at Terry's age with experience, he don't even know when to play and offside trap. . . . .smh

With Fallano Porres leading the line, no hope

Mikel lost the ball but who was supposed to be pressing the guy who he gave it to? Either Mata Torres or hazard were watching the guy and gave him five seconds to make his pass. The highlights should tell us more. More worrying was the amount of times marchisio ran behind mikel

^^ Bros Mikel did not even respond to losing possession - he didn't try to press, try to intercept and just watched the game pass him by.

Ibime: Mikel lost the ball but who was supposed to be pressing the guy who he gave it to? Either Mata Torres or hazard were watching the guy and gave him five seconds to make his pass. The highlights should tell us more. More worrying was the amount of times marchisio ran behind mikel

torres - the furthest man on the pitch for chelsea should be pressing whilst hazard/mata who are behind torres should be bystanders? i am sure torres is responsible for the mayhem in syria @ this rate!

Disappointing draw. We could easily have won the game. I did not see a single good decision made by Ramires.
Why this ninja continues to get picked I have no idea.

Lampard got lost for the first goal. Running at the wrong side of the player and taking eternity to turn and attempt a block.


Mikel loses the ball and instead of dashing up to close down the player, he was basically walking allowing another through pass into the area.



What the hell is this Ramires plays or Bertrand plays all about?
What do Sturridge and Moses have to do to get a game in front of Ramires and Bertrand?

coogar:

torres - the furthest man on the pitch for chelsea should be pressing whilst hazard/mata who are behind torres should be bystanders? i am sure torres is responsible for the mayhem in syria @ this rate!

I just ignored that.

coogar:

torres - the furthest man on the pitch for chelsea should be pressing whilst hazard/mata who are behind torres should be bystanders? i am sure torres is responsible for the mayhem in syria @ this rate!

So you think the job of a striker is limited to waiting for 100% passes to run at and score?

Like I told you Torres like Michael owen cant fit into the modern game.

Go watch Villa Barca, Gomez, Cavani, lavezzi even Drogba last season and see how Striker play not putting hands on waist waiting for through passes for 90mins

debosky: DK is a mor0n - if you take a 2-0 lead at home against a side with the best defensive record in the major European leagues and can't protect it do you blame the striker or the dimwitted defenders who continue trying to play offside when it doesn't work?

Ivanovic kept getting caught out in the first half, Terry got caught out in the second half after Mikel daftly lost the ball and ONE pass cut out 4 players.

Chelski's defending is quite poor at the moment and cost them this game.

Pay more attention to your PS3 cos football isnt your forte.

What did Torres do for the whole 90mins today. Last season it was that he wasnt getting time, 2 days ago, mumu coogar was telling us it was because Torres was subbed in the 82nd min

Today he played 90. I am interested in his stats. No goals, No assist

This same 2 faced Dobosky was asking us why others didnt score. Ok today others scored why didnt Torres do his own part? What exactly is Torres job on the field? Score he no fit, Pressurize opponents He no fit? If he is there as a Mascot maybe he should just dress up as one and stop confusing the real players.

dayokanu:

So you think the job of a striker is limited to waiting for 100% passes to run at and score?

Like I told you Torres like Michael owen cant fit into the modern game.

Go watch Villa Barca, Gomez, Cavani, lavezzi even Drogba last season and see how Striker play not putting hands on waist waiting for through passes for 90mins

shut up your mouth and stop arguing like a ninny - when mikel lost possession, who should be tracking the runner? we are not discussing if striker should press in the modern game, we are discussing a particular incident that led to juventus' 2nd goal. anyone reading the nonsense you typed above would think torres has never tackled in his chelsea career. your trolling these days knows no shame - it's embarrassing!

nateevs: Disappointing draw. We could easily have won the game. I did not see a single good decision made by Ramires.
Why this ninja continues to get picked I have no idea.

Lampard got lost for the first goal. Running at the wrong side of the player and taking eternity to turn and attempt a block.


Mikel loses the ball and instead of dashing up to close down the player, he was basically walking allowing another through pass into the area.



What the hell is this Ramires plays or Bertrand plays all about?
What do Sturridge and Moses have to do to get a game in front of Ramires and Bertrand?

Any thoughts for the Shekpe Keeper or who is to blame this time around?

Bertrand, Ramirez, Lampard Mikel, defence, Bokoharam, fans, Govt, Communism all were at fault except Failure Torres

dayokanu:

Any thoughts for the Shekpe Keeper or who is to blame this time around?

Bertrand, Ramirez, Lampard Mikel, defence, Bokoharam, fans, Govt, Communism all were at fault except Failure Torres

You are just a troll. That's all I can say.

nateevs:
You are just a troll. That's all I can say.

forget dayokanu, burger king's onion rings have contaminated his brain cells - torres tackles more than hazard and mata and even meireles. only terry and cahill have won more aerial duels than torres @ chelsea which makes nando better than ivanovic, luiz and the other chelsea players but shhhhhhh - don't let ibime see this o, torres is weak

I don't know whose responsibility it was to close the man down. Will have to see the replay to confirm. The man was on the halfway line so it is one of three players responsibility. Definitely not Mike's responsibility to leave his position and go closing a man on the halfway line when there are players in front of him. I'm not concerned with mikel losing the ball. We had 10 men behind the ball when he lost it. I'm concerned with marchisio running behind mikel untracked more than 10 times in a match. Torres played a lot better today. At least he kept shape even if he did not pose much goal threat. He worked harder, kept the ball better and contested for more balls

coogar:

shut up your mouth and stop arguing like a ninny - when mikel lost possession, who should be tracking the runner? we are not discussing if striker should press in the modern game, we are discussing a particular incident that led to juventus' 2nd goal. anyone reading the nonsense you typed above would think torres has never tackled in his chelsea career. your trolling these days knows no shame - it's embarrassing!

Mikel lost the ball fine. before the pass was threaded to Quagriella, It took like 5-10secs. Who was supposed to be putting the Juve players under Pressure? Surely your attackers.

This goal is an summary of the liability Torres has become to Chelsea.

How did Drogba do it getting even to his own box to make tackles if he was just putting hand on waist posing like Someone on the runway at MISS UNIVERSE contest.

If Mata had passed to torress for the chance he missed. We woulda gone 3 - 1 up. instead he shot into the side net. Then this thread woulda been quiet of Torres disses. . .

dayokanu:

Pay more attention to your PS3 cos football isnt your forte.

What did Torres do for the whole 90mins today. Last season it was that he wasnt getting time, 2 days ago, mumu coogar was telling us it was because Torres was subbed in the 82nd min

Today he played 90. I am interested in his stats. No goals, No assist

This same 2 faced Dobosky was asking us why others didnt score. Ok today others scored why didnt Torres do his own part? What exactly is Torres job on the field? Score he no fit, Pressurize opponents He no fit? If he is there as a Mascot maybe he should just dress up as one.

Ok, Torres did nothing. Happy now?

What your pea brain missed is the question I asked - was he responsible for the loss of a 2-0 lead at home? Like I said, pay attention to the discussion at hand and don't go off on your trolling rants about Torres.

debosky:

Ok, Torres did nothing. Happy now?

What your pea brain missed is the question I asked - was he responsible for the loss of a 2-0 lead at home? Like I said, pay attention to the discussion at hand and don't go off on your trolling rants about Torres.

Was he responsible? Everyone on the pitch was responsible including Torres for not doing his own bit on the field.

I would agree that he put in more effort than the show of Shame vs QPR but this is still below whats expected of a striker

dayokanu:

Mikel lost the ball fine. before the pass was threaded to Quagriella, It took like 5-10secs. Who was supposed to be putting the Juve players under Pressure? Surely your attackers.

What a moronic statement - Chelski had 4 defenders and 3 midfielders behind the ball but ONE PASS bypassed the entire defensive line of Chelski and we should blame the attackers? Did Torres tell Terry to have a brain fart and try to play offside? Did Torres induce Mikel's coma and lethargy after he gave away the ball?

I guess Nateevs is right - you are just trolling.

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On a bright note. . . Oscar's Second goal was class. .

lalaboi: If Mata had passed to torress for the chance he missed. We woulda gone 3 - 1 up. instead he shot into the side net. Then this thread woulda been quiet of Torres disses. . .

i have told you chelsea players don't understand the use of a centre forward! most of the goals centre forwards score are tap-ins. if the support is selfless, torres should be scoring 20 goals easy but hell no - mata would want to poke shot from an impossible angle and hazard/sturridge/moses all want the glory for themselves! it's a shame! antonio valencia/gervinho/walcott/lennon/etc would be rolling that ball to their striker to score a tap-in!

debosky:
What a moronic statement - Chelski had 4 defenders and 3 midfielders behind the ball but ONE PASS bypassed the entire defensive line of Chelski and we should blame the attackers? Did Torres tell Terry to have a brain fart and try to play offside? Did Torres induce Mikel's coma and lethargy after he gave away the ball?

I guess Nateevs is right - you are just trolling.

dayo has no surge to power his brains when torres is the topic of discussion!

All the muppets yabbing Torres probably didn't see that it was his pressing that led to him pinching possession off the Juve defence and starting off the move for the second goal.

As for pressing Marchisio, it was impossible for Torres to press considering he was miles away from Marchisio on the halfway line.