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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheCarefreeOne(m): 1:17am On Sep 07, 2014 |
raumdeuter:so u r basically saying there won't have been a difference if he had stayed considering they didn't win ANY TROPHY FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS also de liam was in his late 20s there was Owen and Beckham and callbacks at thirty can still be elite and there was Raul, casillas 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:23am On Sep 07, 2014 |
coogar: Sousa won in 2 different clubs in consecutive years. Left the defending champions went to Dortmund and made them Champion. Thats a boss right there. Not a passenger like Claude. No wonder the club president pawned him out like a used Nokia 3310 Did I tell you that you are a cuuumm bucket? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 1:23am On Sep 07, 2014 |
coogar: What proof do you have that Madrid would have more had he stayed? Or isn't this the same Maka that won no CL trophy before or after he left madrid? coogar:Which Engine? Engine that could do more than operate in a 5m area of the pitch not so? Ofcourse they were his ex teammates and in Zizou's case still a team mate for the National team so was bound to say that. Imagine Hierro saying we should disregard stats? What next? How many titles did Maka win as a starter for France? Paolo Sousa was viewed as the better player till the makalele hype went into overdrive. coogar: Ofcourse that was the reason nah. Nothing to do with English journalist hyping up a player . Specialist in what exactly? Staying in one spot all match long? Abi what exactly did He do that others have not only done but done it much better before? Maybe the Greatest in Chelsea FC history sha. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:26am On Sep 07, 2014 |
TheCarefreeOne: so u r basically saying there won't have been a difference if he had stayed considering they didn't win ANY TROPHY FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS What made madrid tick between 1998 and 2002 are many and makelele is the least of them. Often time he was just a passenger on the field which would explain why Del Bosque yanked him off the field in the lone CL finals he has claims to 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:28am On Sep 07, 2014 |
chic2pimp: For the French national Team, the moment Deschamps retired and they put plonkers like the 2 left legged Congolese in DM that was when they started to falter Makelele ko, KASABUBU ni Shawcross too na specialist, He invented the art of hacking opponent 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:30am On Sep 07, 2014 |
chic2pimp:Winning trophies is not the only yardstick of success, Chelsea became relatively more competitive in europe than Madrid. Appearing in more semis/advanced stages for example. Madrid couldnt get beyond the round of 16 for 7-8 straight seasons if i recall correctly. It wasn't all down to Makelele to be sure, but his influence was undeniably felt. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 1:32am On Sep 07, 2014 |
raumdeuter: So you mean the Engine of the team, the man who made them tick, the man without whom they would not have won the title was taken off the pitch at a time when Leverkusen were pressing hard for the equaliser? INCREDIBLE! 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 1:32am On Sep 07, 2014 |
raumdeuter: what did sosa win for portugal? how come he never took portugal to any final? makelele was relevant for club & country. •final for madrid •final for chelsea •final for france wetin sosa achieve for country? you mean your boss did nothing for his country? nothing at all? you are as useless as sosa was for portugal. chic2pimp: he would have carried on winning for them. he was the missing link. madrid already had the attacking platform but none of the galacticos was willing to track back & do the dirty work. makelele was the man for the dirty job & they sold him.
i remember a troglodyte named dayokanu saying the same about busquets in 2010 until busquets destroyed schweinsteiger & khedira in south africa. winning possession & retaining it is the most vital part in football.
so are we comparing france to madrid now? or what's the comparison for?
specialist in tackling. makelele would tackle an aircraft and win the ball cleanly. he's too good! better than all these goats you have around these days......especially those ones in bayern lying to themselves they are DM. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:37am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Horayce: Assuming Makelele had stayed back in Madrid, Would that have stopped Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo, Raul, carlos Hierro they main components of Madrid from declining Madrid declined because their key Galacticos were getting old and injured often Their captain and leader Hierro retired Perez pursued a "Zidanes and Pavons" policy which left them weak at the back They started buying useless players from the English league (Beckham, Owen, Gravesen Woodgate etc) 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 1:41am On Sep 07, 2014 |
raumdeuter: so zidane would have declined in 2004? the same zidane that later went to the world cup in 06 & shat on every team that stood his way?
but mcmanaman that won 2 CL titles for madrid was a german, wasn't he? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 1:45am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Horayce: Well for a Big club like Madrid winning trophies is the Main yardstick. Madrid fans and hierarchy alike could care less about the amount of CL semis they have played in any given period of time. Anything short of the title is seen as a failure. Madrid's failures had nothing to do with Makalele abeg. Other factors like Perez's crazy transfer policy and firing Del Bosque after he had delivered two CL trophies in 3 years are to be blamed 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 2:10am On Sep 07, 2014 |
coogar:what proof do you have that they would have won after all Makaleke did not win another one till he retired? Or why did they not win another one in his 2 other seasons?...... The missing link was Del Bosque not Makalele abeg. coogar:Lest we forget Sergio for all his greatness had XavIniesta who were pretty much raping all and sundry. Also Sergio has more to his game than Claude ever had. He actually could and does deliver defence splitting passes Why Are we comparing France to Portugal and it is generally acknowledged that the French had the much better team? Even still at that they both won nada for their respective countries. coogar: So tackling is his speciality? Okay o I think we should leave out Bastian(others can be included) from this discourse. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:18am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Katsumoto: The only think I hate more than a dumb ninja is a pseudo intellectual. Makelele limited in skillset? I guess thís coming from the same guy who rates Gerrard as a midfield God. Makelele was extremely gifted in skillset. A brilliant passer of the ball, a game controller from deep and the only ninja who does the 'Kanu drag' regularly in midfield. A pseudo intellectual would not remember how Makelele was an attacking midfielder in his younger years and was one of the gifted attacking midfielders in the Champions league in that position, taking Nantes to the UCL semifinal in 1996. His name was ringing like Seedorf and co back then when you talk of attacking midfielders. That was when he used to have hightop haircut. We were watching thís shít whilst these pseudo intellectuals were reading Okeke physics. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 2:54am On Sep 07, 2014 |
chic2pimp: If we weren't banned for 5 years from European competition, the drought wouldn't have been that long. It would have been from 1990 to 2004. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:54am On Sep 07, 2014 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:13am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Makelele when he was an attacking midfielder at Nantes. Limited indeed! Check out his 'Kanu drag' at 2:20. Same skill he used to use all the time in defensive midfield. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAhLl1KCLT4&feature=youtube_gdata_player 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:06am On Sep 07, 2014 |
The sound of quiet. Hehehe. The moment when folks realise oops! Makalele wasn't limited. Ibime brings sanity to the board. Guapo you surprise me. Dey join these actors dey claim Makalele was limited. I don't claim to have seen footage of Makalele in Nantes but definitely saw enough of him at Real and Chelsea to laugh at the last 3 pages. Maka limited? Never seen so much garbage spewed with only two words. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhellake: 9:09am On Sep 07, 2014 |
nateevs: The sound of quiet. Hehehe. The moment when folks realise oops! Makalele wasn't limited. Ibime brings sanity to the board.Assin Ehn!!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:56am On Sep 07, 2014 |
PietroRico:...abeg m a madrid fan ooo....but Sergio Ramos is in no way better Dan JT..abeg...calm down wof ur trolling |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:31am On Sep 07, 2014 |
coogar:lol! jesus navas is better than pedro yet he doesnt even have a thing on hazard in epl.. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:46am On Sep 07, 2014 |
PietroRico: *exhales violentlyyes! do you know; deep lying=defensive and playmaker=midfielder make up DMF. they are not the aggressive/rugby type of DMF like roy keane and gattuso rather their game is more of tactics and techniques with passing skills..they hardly concede card but they are doing the job, displacing opponent's attack and makelele started this, thats why they call it 'the makelele role' shey u grab. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:49am On Sep 07, 2014 |
PietroRico: we'll manage the imbalance till january. Then a proper midfielder(strootman) will come in.why cant you do it now since you have fellaini who you claim is better than matic..why wait for strootman huh |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:06pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
chic2pimp:oga they call it the makelele role everywhere not only english press, get your facts right. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:12pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
coogar:bro tell them, they will never understand why they termed it 'the makerolelele ' , meanwhile,in terms of football knowledge, they are not wiser than these people that name the role after him. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:15pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
chic2pimp:lie! they call it 'the makelele role' worldwide, go figure. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:30pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
coogar:bro you re too funny...a player will play poorly in a match but once he score a goal, he is motm according to these guys you are lecturing now. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:41pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
nateevs: The sound of quiet. Hehehe. The moment when folks realise oops! Makalele wasn't limited. Ibime brings sanity to the board. For a player that does no other thing than screen & babysit the backline, It was easy to opine he is limited. He once struck a wonder of a goal against Spurs some years back, a game we eventually lost. I dont think he ever got close to an opposition box again till he retired. If he possessed some other admirable skills, then it's a shame he didn't put them to good use hence I had to agree with the assertion that he was limited. Mikel used to be this midfield schemer, he was all about creativity but Jose had those skillset limited when he had him shoehorned into the DM position - the once creative lad unfortunately lost his flair. This could well be the case with the Claude Makalele I saw play for Chelsea - a player who used to be an all round midfielder. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:02pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
raumdeuter:so a club that won 1 ucl in 3 years is a failure right? compare to one that won it for 12 years and spot the difference. during barca dominance, they didnt win it every year. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:07pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
And Sawyer comes around! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:09pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
chic2pimp:bro you have a very low football knowledge no offence, chelsea just rise to stardom and you expect them to win ucl just like that...you think say ucl na moi moi . Sir alex ferguson spent 27 years at man united and won just 2 ucl says a lot about the tournament. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 1:50pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
Bimfo: I'm so sure you believe anything quoted by a white man. I'm sure u also believe Mungo park discovered the source of river Niger, as if Africans were not living there before he came. So u believe Makelele is the best DM? No wonder he was ignored by France for good 6 years. REDONDO (Makelele's master), Effenberg, Edgar Davids, Albertini, were all better. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Katsumoto: 1:55pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
nateevs: The sound of quiet. Hehehe. The moment when folks realise oops! Makalele wasn't limited. Ibime brings sanity to the board. The quality of the league matters. Why is it that players that score incredible goals in the championship can't replicate such goals in the premiership. Don't teams who win the Championship, move up to the Premiership, end up being relegated? Don't get me wrong, Nantes was a good team but shoe get size. The french league is second tier in Europe. What did Makelele do in Spain and in England? and what was is consistency? What are his stats in terms of goals, assists, key passes? Isn't it ironic that a Chelsea supporter has to use footage from when Makelele played for Nantes to showcase his 'skills'? After Nantes he went to Marseille, Celta Vigo, Real Madrid and then Chelsea. |
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