SUFFERInSMILIIN:


The fat bellies is because they eat a lot of oil nothing else just got put down cooking oil and see what is happening. Hunger in Nigeria is rampant

So Nigerians are poor but they're able to buy enough oil a commodity which the average poor Nigerian considers expensive in large enough amounts to substitute as food? How tf does that even make sense please explain

SUFFERInSMILIIN:

I disagree with you Americans have moved on to hard drugs likes eclectic marijuana. A lot of African countries are dumping their cannabis in Nigeria quite a lot. In fact no Mexico is dumping huge amount of cannabis in Nigeria. Americans do not have time to grow cannabis again because most of them are in lamb production which is synthetic cannabis or marijuana

Cannabis, synthetic cannabis, marijuana and eclectic marijuana are all the same thing and when collecting data on marijuana consumption they don't care about the breed and no Mexico isn't dumping its drugs in Nigeria that's an outright lie they are sending it into America or consuming it themselves and if you bothered to read the news over 500 000 dollars worth of cannabis was discovered being farmed illegally for the fourth time in the past two months if Americans weren't into farming cannabis would there be 4 illegal cannabis farms discovered in under 40 days?

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Please explain to me what retail sector Nigerians have because of what I know 70 to 90% of Nigerians are hungry so where does the retail sector come from. It has gotten to the stage where the government borrows money to feed the people nothing else

1. It's clear you don't understand data it is saying 29% of Nigerians are hungry so that means 71% are getting enough food meaning 71% are able to access food at good intervals and in good amounts

2. The government doesn't borrow to feed anybody the government only borrows to pay salaries it's not commendable but till Nigeria gets a good leader it is what it is

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Internet or fooling yourself please look at your country and look at the IQ level of your citizens. It is only a stupid idiot which runs to another person's country and believes he is clever when somebody else has billed that country. One of the biggest failures of Africa is because of people like you you wake up in dreamland and stop deceiving yourself. Go to Malaysia Indonesia Vietnam and see what they are making their cell phones which day are making the cars which they are making the electric and nuclear powered ships which they are making go and see their 24-hour electricity and Healthcare. If you were so clever you would not be in poverty and hunger

Africa's problem is in poor leadership and IQ is decided by the standard of education if everyone isn't getting a good education how would they even understand the basis of what an IQ test there is no one in Africa that is inherently stupid unless they're disabled and there are a lot of Africans living abroad who are smarter then their peers and it isn't a belief it's a fact

Shma2020:


On ground it don't match with two rivers. I don't know if the entire place it sits on or just a mall?

Anyway, two rivers has the biggest samsang shop in Africa . It also has the biggest ferry wheels in africa.

Two rivers will make in top 5 in SA. But the point here was jorburg vs Nairobi.

Are you okay? How does it not match two rivers you're clearly delusional

If you want to talk Joburg then we have

Fourways Mall
Mall Of Africa
Sandton City
Centurion mall
Rosebank Mall
Eastgate Mall

All are bigger then Two rivers in size and that's Joburg alone not even Gauteng which would include Pretoria it would take Nairobi upwards of 15 years to catch up with Joburg that is if Joburg were to stagnate in development which is unlikely or if Nairobi experienced some sort of construction boom on the level of China's but both are unlikely so continue dreaming

Shma2020:


Can you post canal walk mall. Which I believe is the third or forth biggest mall in SA.

If it beats this, then I will leave the debate.

Canal walk mall my guy is 141 000 sqm more then double the size of two rivers know your place

Shma2020:



Two rivers mall will make it to the top 5 in mall ranking in the entire SA. I don't know where you're getting this narrative that two rivers will be beaten by small small malls in jorburg. Come on dude - two rivers is already in top 10 best malls in africa - with the likes of Egypt, Algeria, Morocco and of course two or three malls from your country . Post here your 5th biggest mall. I want to show you something

Two rivers wouldn't even be in the top 10 best or biggest malls if it were to be located in South Africa even my local mall alone is 40 000 sqm

Mkenya2019:
Again we are already 2nd to South Africa in mall business. Some of our retailers are soon closing to 100 branches. Our mall sector is fast growing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSKfUNNO69c&t=713s

As for stadiums and the rest - if we get to host World Cup - we will build them.

No you're still behind both Nigeria and Egypt when it comes to retail and why would Kenya a non football nation host the world cup? If anything Nigeria, Ghana, Cote D'Ivoire or Egypt will host it in Africa no other nation it's between them

Shma2020:


10yrs is a lie. Rvp gave you alot. Nairobi has overtaken jorburg if not 2yrs max to overtake it in vertical infrastructure.

We need 8yrs more or less to catch up with jorburg in horizontal infrastructure -this include all transport infrastructure and pavements.

Nairobi needs at max 8 yrs to beat jorburg.

Bro stop you're not catching up with Joburg within 2 years you'd need at least 10 years minimum he didn't even show Sandton or Rosebank or Illovo only one part of Joburg, Nairobi doesn't compare to Joburg and will need a lot more then a few years to catch up I live here for a few months every year before going to the UK so I know what i'm saying

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Nice pictures

Nigeria ranked number one country in the world in cannabis and Indian hemp consumption

So? America and many other countries have begun legalizing it and it's been smoked for thousands of years across the world and he didn't even provide data I promise you that America smokes more cannabis then Nigeria does

Shma2020:


It's possible. Winning a sport bid has more to do with supporting infrastructure - both green and social developments. Stadiums are also another factor but carries little water. Once the interior makes sense then other factors to be concidered will come outside the stadium.

Nairobi is beautiful. It is nature blessed with a national park & other recreation parks inside. It has cool temperature favorable for majority. we have the history topping up on the aforesaid event.

We stand high chances.

But surely you'd need more then a singular stadium? And i'd also like to say that the quality of the U20 championship in Nairobi was horrible you could barely ever get good coverage on it if you can improve on that then you stand a very strong chance of holding this one too

obaaderemi:
Don't be brainwashed, guy. All religions have a lot of things that don't make sense not only African religions.

If homosexuality wasn't taboo in African societies until the arrival of the Europeans (western culture like you said) then there would be records of people practising homosexuality freely and having gay marriages openly. I don't think such records exist. The Europeans and Arabs were excited about giving records of barbaric practices among Africans that they( the Europeans) encountered early.

If you have such records among the yorubas, please post it let us see it. It existed but was seen as unnatural and taboo. Period. It's stigmatization had nothing to do with xtianity or Islam.

I posted links giving evidence not only in Yoruba land but across Africa I don't have the energy to post them again go and look for it and a lot of sources of European views on Africa are hard to access

horsepower102:


Your original argument was that none existed now you switched it to quantity of production

Also when I was talking about agriculture, I was never thinking of subsistence farming. I was thinking of mechanized/industrial farming.

My original argument was that they don't make it and they don't they melt down scrap materials and make it into steel wire and billets

And i'm not talking about subsitent farming either but the irrigation technology and unique fertilizers used in Israel and Netherlands are very expensive to manufacture and the drip technology as well before those in the SE are able to do such massive amounts of wealth would have to be developed first.

horsepower102:


Do your research
Check out inner galaxy steel mill in Aba.

Also Israel, a desert country supplies agricultural products to so many middle eastern countries.
With modern agricultural practices south east can do the same.

That isn't major is it that plant barely produces more then 900 000MT of steel and they don't actually make steel go and look at what you need for an actual steel plant then you'll see what I mean if you look at that place do you see any major furnace or any amjor power plant because the amount of electricity you need to make steel is a lot go and look at Ajaokuta that is how much land and how large the buildings have to be for you to actually be making the steel and not importing scrap materials and melting it down into billets like this company is most likely doing but to each their own

And I literally said you will need money and innovative technology like Netherlands but right now there isn't enough money for such invesments and I hope you know wheat and barley cannot be grown in the SE you need a savannah or desert or temperate climate they don't grow well in tropical climates so you will still have to depend on imports for food to a certain degree
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Taba21:


Igbo are cursed by God, watch out as God will destroy them due their foolish arrogant

Nobody is cursed by god you dumbass especially not the Igbos if they were cursed how would they have been able to build such large institutions and businesses?

OfoIgbo:


Are you still jealous of the SE that has more than 90% of Nigeria's gas reserves? And your region doesn't even have up to 1% of Nigeria's gas reserves. Gas will be more in demand than oil, in the next few years, so the SE is alright.

Just concentrate on how to get back your refugees from Benin republic

90% where's your source i'd like to read more into this

Don't act like there aren't Igbo refugees in Cameroon, Gabon and Equatorial Guinea to this day both Yorubas and Igbos have left Nigeria in fear especially in the 60s and 70s and a lot of them ended up either in the three countries I mentioned or in Ghana and Cote D'Ivoire we are one and the same

jl115:


"In all, the fight cost 13 killed and 27 wounded. But the force retained its cohesion
throughout and was able to fall back from two separate engagement areas to its base and to
hold it until their attackers gave up trying to overrun them, offering, instead, a ceasefire and
disengagement. By then they had suffered as many as 800 killed, according to the estimates of
officers with considerable operational experience and by some NGOs in the country"

http://parabat.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/The_Battle_in_Bangui_-_The_Untold_Inside_Story.pdf

- BH are only dangerous because your inept military always them to be
- Attacks with gun trucks where the guns were stolen from your military
- Arracks with rockets stolen from your military
- Attacks with AA guns stolen from your military

BH also stole Tanks, IFVs and APCs from your military

Actually a lot of weapons of Boko haram weren't stolen from our military but were gotten through the illegal arms trade in the Sahel exasperated by the collapse of Libya but yes unfortunately the top branch of the military benefits from the insurgency battle so it has continued but as far as i'm concerned with the firepower the military has if we wanted to we could end the insurgency in the north within 6 months

Emergingnation:
Let your Fulani government be bold enough to issue referendum as being requested by IPOB....

It will shock you 95% of Ndigbo will vote to leave...

This government isn't a government of mine or a government of the people and I believe that there should be a referendum but only when the country is in a good position you cannot decide on such an important decision when the country isn't at it's best when the country is being run well and there is peace then we can make massive decisions like this and also I doubt the numbers would be as large as 95% even if they were to win it would be more likely to be 60/40 or even 51/49

Emergingnation:
Igbo want to leave this contraption, let your Fulani government Issue referendum as being requested..

Unity beggars will always excuses..

Some Igbos want to leave Nigeria not all

Emergingnation:
Igboland barren , yet Igbos sons and daughters acrossed the globe with one voice is calling for separate country from this contraption..

Which you always masturbate daily on that regard..

Which one voice? I know hundreds of Igbos abroad who don't want a separate country so what are you claiming?

horsepower102:
Notice how he never specified what exactly made south-east barren. He is just throwing tantrum towards the Igbos out of HATRED.

Largest proven gas reserve in africa as of 2021
Every state in the south east has oil
Enugu, Abia and Ebonyi has limestone for cement production
Ebonyi and Northern Anambra lands are very fertile and can produce surplus food for exports to the rest of the west african sub region
Obaku in Abia is closer to the sea than portharcourt
Aba has a large steel industry that supplied anambra airport construction
We have Aba, Onitsha and Nnewi manufacturing hubs
Largest market in west africa
ETC

Let;s not exagerate igbo land isn't large enough to produce enough food for the whole of west africa unless they begin to use Netherlands style agriculture which needs a lot of technology and money and concerning steel no Aba doesn;t have a large steel industry for the most part Nigeria doesn't even produce steel apart from that you're spot on anyone claiming that the south east doesn't produce anything or doesn't benefit the overall Nigerian economy is a liar I hope one day we can get federalism and the SE finally gets the development it deserves powered by coal, gas, wind and solar energy, with large manufacturing industries spread acorss dozens of towns and villages and an area of innovation and massive development but until we begin to choose the right leaders we will never see such progress

Just30:
The global health community agreed to a 72 hours gestation period beyond which the virus can cause harm between person's ...

All PCR tests I've come across are valid for 72 hours and Kenya is not exclusive.

A traveller will know all these things

No he's right Kenya chose to be different it is 96 hours for them I just searched and the bus ticket looks legit low quality and all also clearly in a rush I don't see why you're so desperate to disprove him

jneutron4000:
Get a book by Herotodus, he wrote about ILE IFE( note no word like Yoruba then). Yoruba is the oldest through Ile Ife.

Herodotus only wrote of Egypt and Aethiopia anything about Africa in the interior was unknown by the Greeks for the most part

sherlock229:
Yoruba are the oldest, the oldest skeleton ever found in West Africa was found in Iwo ẹlẹru meaning Yoruba land is the most ancient according to facts...not fictions

The skeleton wasn't more then 10-100 000 years old but a rock shelter and stone axe factory of over 250 000 years old shows that the Igbo had older inhabitance but the thing is for all we know they aren't the actual ancestors of modern day people groups inhabiting those regions they could have easily migrated elsewhere and we wouldn't know

Adeba01:
I'm amazed by the sheer stupidity and lack of common sense / logical thinking on this post.

Think about it logically for any of these aforementioned tribes to have been the three allegedly largest tribal groups it would have entailed them assimilating different smaller tribes, so technically none are the oldest.

Intriguingly, there are more primitive tribes in northern Nigeria, that did not have a tradition of clothes wearing, I would wager that these tribes are the oldest in nigeria being the most primitive. If anyone is aware of any other primitive tribe in Nigeria kindly let me know.

https://www.pulse.ng/bi/lifestyle/meet-the-naked-tribes-of-nigeria-where-people-wear-leaves-and-little-to-nothing/w3ttqxv




In other words, whichever is the most primitive tribe in Nigeria will be the oldest, this definitely rules out the Yorubas, Igbos and Hausas.

Being primitive isn't a measure of the duration in which one has been in said area based off of archaelogy we can say that the oldest group will be the Igbo due to the Ugwuele Uturu stone axe area which dates back to 250 000 years old then the Yoruba with the cave of ashes which has bones dating back over 12 000 years then comes the Edo and the delta groups and for the northern and middle belt groups there are rock paintings but for whatever reason not a lot is known about the age of them but for now the order is Igbo, Yoruba, Middle belt and North, Edo and delta groups then Bantu groups of the Plateau region

What's this now? You're telling me the tree put itself back up after collapsing and taking the lives of 4? Or is this an old video from before it fell

obaaderemi:
It doesn't add up.
Two females can not have a baby. Drop it, Sir.
And to say Orunmila was born without bones in his body is another laughable thing. But then most things in religion don't make sense anyway.. And not just Yoruba religion.

But stop running with such claims as if they were facts.

And the practise is taboo. If it wasn't taboo, it would be accepted and seen as normal. There is no evidence that it was widespread like it is in the western world today. Definitely they didn't see it as naturally occuring. The same way some African societies didn't see twins as naturally- occuring.

That's why gays mostly remained in the closet long ago in African societies and are still mostly there.

It is an African religion a lot of things don't make sense same way there's stories of trees giving birth to people in sacred forests

And it wasn't taboo it was only taboo after the coming of western culture and religion this isn't an argument and African societies thought twins were evil and cursed not that they weren't natural

I've provided four sources showing that homosexuality wasn't taboo and the stigma against it is foreign multiple times and you haven't provided a single one so why should I believe your point of view if you can't even provide evidence for it

obaaderemi:
Your link catapulted itself into the abyss.

One part of it states Orunmila was born when two females had sex and that's why he had no bones in his body. Now, in the real sense lesbians don't engage in lesbian sex to produce babies because it's completely impossible. And how can a man without bones survive?

To say homosexuality existed in Africa long ago is the truth. In fact that practice is as old as the world itself. It has always been there, even in the animal world.

But the heart of the matter is that it is a taboo in many African societies, including the Yoruba one. It is there but unacceptable to the society. I guess that's what the transcriber is trying to say.

It is the yoruba religion a lot of things don't make sense and when did it say that they intended to have a baby? It just happened and it isn't a taboo in most African societies that's false and it certainly isn't a taboo in the Yoruba society neither is it taboo in the igbo, bini and even the nupe societies they were very close to nature so why and how exactly would they demonize a naturally occuring preference?

More evidence come and read this thread you people will not sleep till you accept the fact of the matter it wasn't a taboo and it wasn't frowned upon it was there and was freely practiced

https://www.nairaland.com/4496082/homosexuality-wasnt-alien-yoruba-sango

vankelvin:


Huh!
the little Ive seen from you today! abeg, take your link and chew, make sure to drink water on top.

I don't have time for rubbish

Okay if you don't have time then stop quoting me and go mind your own business unless you actually want to have a proper debate?

theTranscriber:

it's obvious that that article is pro LGBTQ

bring me something that is neutral
I have no way to verify the stupid claims in that aljazzliar article
I'll read everything in the article when Qatar legalises LGBTQ

let America go and shout LGBTQ to Saudi Arabia

nonsense



I'm awaiting your LGBTQ weddings

Go and search the evidence they provided not just automatically disregard it notice how they mentioned the King in Uganda I mentioned and the Igbo female marriages that I also mentioned is that not an example of an LGBTQ wedding for you?

theTranscriber:

they do t need to say that
the fact that they didn't say it was accepted is enough for me


re read my post
there's no "survive" in it

Come and read this one then it was there and it was accepted in some situations even celebrated if this isn't enough evidence for you then it's clear you're not open minded enough for this conversation you need to learn to decolonize your mind and be ready for new conversations

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/4/homosexuality-africamuseveniugandanigeriaethiopia.html