MightySparrow:

Well, this is a digression from the topic.
I wish you stay on the topic. It is very important.

The Jews never denied His existence but deny His claim as the expected Saviour. Even this rejection was foreseen by Isaiah. Isaiah 6, 53, John 12 : 39, 41.

You don catch am again. He will digress and extend the rope of lies

MaxInDHouse:


The dates aren't the issues but what Jesus' friends penned down and their beliefs about Jesus of Nazareth.

So it's still the same thing just as people back then don't take Jesus and his disciples seriously they don't want to take his modern day disciples: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

You can choose to keep twisting your words up and down. I know your state of honesty and integrity. Below is the title of your thread...

The Year 1914 Jesus began ruling in heaven

and you say.......

The dates aren't the issues but what Jesus' friends penned down and their beliefs about Jesus of Nazareth.

Shot yourself in the foot by saying


1. 1914 is not the issue, defeated the essence of your thread that Jesus began ruling in 1914

2. You don't believe what Jesus penned down actually the moment you say Jesus began ruling in 1914 when you see clearly from Genesis to Revelation nothing of such is found in the bible

So it's still the same thing just as people back then don't take Jesus and his disciples seriously they don't want to take his modern day disciples: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

It is not the same thing. Jesus didn't go about marketing dates, hours, seconds and minutes as foundation of his religious organization or date of his coming.

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ it's only those obedient to the Governing Body that are JWs do you still remember?

So who are the so called killers and to whom are they listening?

Loooool! Let start extending the rope.

Ọmọ it's only those obedient to the Governing Body that are JWs do you still remember?

No wonder Jehovah’s witnesses are found to be liars and enforce lies on their members since obeying Governing body is what makes them Jehovah’s witnesses. Those that were caught in killing of fellow members were Jehovah’s witnesses. When David killed Uriah, he was no longer an Israelite or king in Israel

See how you want to run away from the truth to advance the lies and cover it up as well

So who are the so called killers and to whom are they listening?

They are Jehovah’s witnesses and they listen to the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses

Jehovah’s Witnesses kill their fellow members or worshipers as it were is a current and present reality in the midst of Jehovah’s Witnesses going to war or not. Do you agree?

Respond to this👆👆👆👆👆

MaxInDHouse:
Why do many today keep questioning the authenticity of the New Testament?

Well it's because it was written by Jesus' own friends (disciples who weren't renown historians so whenever you're reading the Bible book of Matthew to Revelations know that you're reading books still under scrutiny globally among historians therefore your faith in those 27 books is not recognized by Jewish historians but on the writings of common men who weren't recognized in the first century!

The calculations of 1914 was based on the works of historians and the chronology your religious organization used to arrive at 1914 were the works of historians who were not calculating something that is non existent(Jesus Christ)

MaxInDHouse:


In the first century no single historian or scholar agree with Jesus of Nazareth that's why 99% of Jews and Judaists world wide are of the opinion that Jesus is FAKE till today.

So if only his disciples agreed with him it still boils down to what you called "community truth" which is only among his disciples and that's why many people are saying he never existed because it's only his disciples who wrote about him!

You don't know how you put yourself in a tight corner with this post

You have no basis in the first place to use dates of historians to calculate and arrived at 1914. Since it is your community truth as obtained from the Bible. You only need to now pick your Bible and show us where Jesus stated clearly he returned in 1914 since historians don't have to agree with Jesus existence. You cannot be using historical information to calculate want don't exist

MaxInDHouse:


But Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the world don't join the army so they can't be part of the killers of their fellow worshipers nah!

Jehovah’s Witnesses kill their fellow members or worshipers as it were is a current and present reality in the midst of Jehovah’s Witnesses going to war or not. Do you agree?

MaxInDHouse:

So thanks for commenting!

Good to know

MaxInDHouse:


So who are those claiming Christians in the military forces fighting and killing their fellow believers in other lands?

The many thousand of Christian denominations you say are claiming Christians including the one you identified earlier Jehovah’s witnesses. You equally call them Christendom in the dictionary of your religious organization.

I hope you understood this.

johnw47:
it's not yet the time for turning spears into plough shears
while there are wars and terrorists murdering thousands

God having us learn war no more is after the return of Christ
before Christ's millennium reign of peace on earth

until then we Christians will defend our families, just as God Himself in the future will kill five sixths
of the invading northern armies, defending and saving a remnant of Israel

They pick a scripture apply it to a cooked doctrine of theirs and say that's the truth of God's word and use it to judge others as not being Christian for not following their cooked doctrines.

johnw47:


that arrogant and saucy russellite running away from you again

Lies do run away from truth. He has seen the lies he peddles does not hold against the truth of the Bible he carries.

MightySparrow:


I have been trying to tell maximumSide that having a different view(community truth), does not mean you are teaching the truth. The hyped 1914 has no credible historical and archeological backing. No historians or historical books agree with the date 607 BCE.

Their own member, Carl Olof Jonsson, when questioned about the verity of the dates, sent him to the library. In his twelve years of serious studies, he discovered that the doctrine was built on mere conjectures. Even then, time of Nebuchadnezzar or 79 years, The Times of Gentles, if carefully considered, do not any reasonable interpretations in line with the subject matter.

This teaching is a lie, based on lies, only propagated by harassment.
I pointed out to maximumSide, that in the time of Jesus Christ, there were sects like, Sadducees, Pharisees, Hellens, Scribes, these drew their teachings from the books of Moses and the prophets, yet had different views in their practices and interpretations.
In the same way as Christianity grew across the globe and influence, people tried to naturalize the teachings to their locations and traditions. Hence, you have Roman Catholic, Anglican, Ethiopian, Gothic, Aladura,..... many others from other parts of the world.

What then are the core teachings of Christianity? God is One. Salvation, Holiness, Redemption, Resurrection, invitation to Christian faith, Judgement and eternal rewards.

There is no one tribes in the world that do not have an iota of their culture or beliefs in their form of Christianity from the simple to spiritual. Only a narrow minded JW's like my friend, maximumSide that fanatically believe and harass people with his bigotry.

For instance, there is no known standards for wedding, burial, naming, house warming etc laid down by Jesus and the Apostles, yet each denomination including the JWs organization have their own.

All these scriptural harassments are born out of narrow mindedness, bigotry, and lack of world view of human and civilian dynamics.

Wishing you a happy weekend.

Sweet. No matter how MaxInDHouse repeat the lies of 1914 packed into his brains as truth. It will not make it the truth from the Bible he carries

Have a great weekend too and the holiday added as bonus in the coming week.

What is this baba saying again about injustice to another tribe. How do you qualify injustice in this case and how it affects other tribe?

Baba this is what they need to cure the perceived injustice....

The Igbos of South-East or wherever they are in Nigeria, must stand up and assert their rights legitimately, judiciously, and in a democratic way to benefit like any other Nigerian, as it was before the civil war of 1967.”

The elder statesman said the people of the south-east deserve to have a sense of belonging in Nigeria.

“All that is required is for us to demonstrate reciprocal respect, love, and understanding to one another,” the PANDEF convener said.

“Let us do what is right; let us accommodate one another and be fair to one another.”

Assert their right in a democratic way requires them to play the game right and negotiate and yield where appropriate not lording their will over others and blackmailing them while doing so.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is the Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

According to his teachings those who are his must have LOVE for their neighbors {Mark 12:31} LOVE for their fellow believers just as he loved them {John 13:34-35} and LOVE, bless and pray for the well-being of their enemies! Luke 6:27-28

Having that in mind how many religious groups claiming Christians are OBEYING these instructions in order to prove that they are disciples of the Prince of Peace?

I know one organization: Jehovah's Witnesses!

Can you mention another one so we can reason together on how such a group is putting what this Prince of Peace to good use?

I know that one called Jehovah's Witnesses claiming to be Christians because one of their members denigrate the name Christian saying it was bastardised and cursed by God and that anyone bearing that name does not belong to Christ. Only for that same person to come back and say they are the only true Christians who do the following...

Murder or kill (despite saying they are neutral to war and politics) , swap wives, molest children, fornicates, have adulterers, domestic violence in their midst e.t.c

It reeks dishonesty to say others claim to be Christian a name you said Jehovah’s witnesses abandoned for them and that bearing that name means one don't belong to Jesus

Can you mention another one so we can reason together on how such a group is putting what this Prince of Peace to good use?

You forgot your who are you to give me instructions . Didn't I tell you that you will get a reminder about that .

One of the thousands I know I have given you and what is found in the one I mentioned is found in the others I know too. Painting the one you know in good light and denigrating the others won't work on me. I see it as lies against the others. What I said about your religious organization are not lies. You know.

According to his teachings those who are his must have LOVE for their neighbors {Mark 12:31} LOVE for their fellow believers just as he loved them {John 13:34-35} and LOVE, bless and pray for the well-being of their enemies! Luke 6:27-28

The one of Jehovah's Witness I know love making enemies out of people and always trying to make others make enemies out of those who don't dance to the tune of his lies and manipulations simply because they choose to disassociate and leave their religious organization. In fact he said Jesus don't pray for those who don't accept him or his enemies . Now he is quoting scriptures to cover up his lies and manipulations

Having that in mind how many religious groups claiming Christians are OBEYING these instructions in order to prove that they are disciples of the Prince of Peace?

Thousands of churches of those you call christendom are doing so. I don't see the them go to churches with weapons to attack their fellow Christian. I don't see them finish their church program and start attacking people in their communities. They live peacefully with them even under intense opposition in some lands they do everything in their midst to make peace and not run away during crisis

MaxInDHouse:


This is my own understanding i'm not forcing it on you so you can speak about yours those who wish to reason with me are free either to accept it or reject it.
So speak for yourself as you have rejected it you can't speak for all other people!

I have not said I am your Governing body who asked you to accept lies at all cost to enforce unity

This is my own understanding i'm not forcing it on you so you

You didn't see me type that you to accept it by force and by fire.

so you can speak about yours those who wish to reason with me are free either to accept it or reject it

That's why I quote you. Quoting monikers on this platform is to reason with anybody you want to discuss with and they are free to accept or reject it.

So speak for yourself as you have rejected it you can't speak for all other people!

Achorladey is the moniker typing not all other people

MaxInDHouse:


Thanks for commenting!

Blessedarethepe:

BUt these teachers are suffering....................when they are poorly remunerated

The hope is to see teachers get their own salary structure. The last minister of education had a template for that but as usual the state government are always opposing anything that increases wage bill of workers.

Teachers need to be placed on their salary structure not minimum wage

Who say education na scam again?

Godwins4:
See 200 naira fried potato I bought today for my afternoon food, can you get this for the same amount in your area?

Because they are ready to offer services in what denominations you carry. You still get to see them spend lower denominations more there than in the south.

Teachers all over the country are in for a serious work regarding this.

MaxInDHouse:


So this is about running away shey?
Well thanks for commenting!

You have to thank for giving you the opportunity to run away. You simply cannot stand the heat of the truth coming from the Bible you carry. The only thing that can make your lies and manipulations stand is AUTHORITY of which is limited within sphere of your religious organization .

You can never tolerate this kind of discussion from your fellow members. You will suppress them with your arrogant and saucy attitude of which you testify are still embedded deep within you.

MaxInDHouse:
Salvation only belongs to those who have this quality called HUMILITY or MEEKNESS!

WHY?

Because God always use imperfect humans to lead His worshipers/people anytime He wants to deliver them so whoever is not Humble (Meek) can't cope with the blunders of those God will use in fact those who needs to follow them may expect too much from them but should we also expect perfection from them?
Well this is what an ancient prophet said which correlates with Jesus' words! Zephaniah 2:2-3; Matthew 5:5

So whenever you read about some in the first century declared SAVED it's because they were humble and once they found the channel God is using they will never ever turn aside from following God's chosen ones. Luke 17:31-35


Jesus spoke about salvation and his disciples asked him a very important question:

“Where, Lord?”

This means there will be a small group of people chosen/anointed to lead obedient mankind to salvation so his disciples asked him where faithful people can find this anointed brothers of Christ Jesus.

What was his response?

“Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be GATHERED together" Luke 17:37


Who are these so called BODY of anointed brothers of Christ?
And who are those whose spiritual eyes are as sharp as EAGLES so that they GATHERED around the BODY?

Cornered

Because God always use imperfect humans to lead His worshipers/people anytime He wants to deliver them so whoever is not Humble (Meek) can't cope with the blunders of those God will use in fact those who needs to follow them may expect too much from them but should we also expect perfection from them?

Balaam beast of burden despite being an animal didn't give blunders

Humans being imperfect is not criteria that God gives blunders.

Unity, meekness and humility based on lies will never be accepted as truth required for salvation

MaxInDHouse:


The question is:

Are you of the opinion that there are no group practicing what Jesus taught or you don't know?

I know thousands of religious denominations practising what Jesus taught about....

For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.

.

When you go walking in your neighbourhood you see each of the churches with their various names are the religious denominations in your neighbourhood preaching and practising it.

My question, is your religious organization practising what is recorded in that account? Your answer will only add or subtract from the group I know that are practising the above

Do you care to answer?

A. Yes

B. No

C. I choose to respond with another question to deflect

D. Hanged and hooked that others practise the very same thing I practise and I call them false Christians

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ i was really arrogant and saucy but with the attitude of Jehovah's Witnesses i felt really bad that i began reciprocating to their respectful attitude.

Of course the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses respected me fully by sending their members to come and preach to me and they proved to be RESPECTFUL all through that's why i realized that those who trained them deserve to be respected and i began considering their instructions to see how beneficial it is to those following it.

So before you can expect me to follow any instruction you must do the same not command it, obviously you're now showing the reason why you're unable to cope in their midst!

You want to hide between command and instructions to run away

I asked..........

What did you read from the post you are responding to?

Then I added........

Now bring back what you read. I want to see it.

.

Simple instructions

So before you can expect me to follow any instruction you must do the same not command it, obviously you're now showing the reason why you're unable to cope in their midst

You are already running away and I am not holding you back.

All your questions I provided answers. The one time I asked a question. You did not respond and ran under...........

Hmmmmmmmmmm, please who are you that i should follow your instruction?

But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect.

Mild temper and deep respect out of the window without following instructions since you cannot even answer simple question not to talk of making a defense

Ọmọ i was really arrogant and saucy but with the attitude of Jehovah's Witnesses i felt really bad that i began reciprocating to their respectful attitude.

Diversion, they have the right to respect you even before you reciprocate that's part of what practising what Jesus taught his disciples should do to their ways of operation and now that you are a member you want the outsider(Achorladey) to respect you first before you reciprocate in my case. You see the lies and manipulations I talked about. You go reverse, I move forward . You don't follow the instructions Peter gave in that account

Of course the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses respected me fully by sending their members to come and preach to me and they proved to be RESPECTFUL all through that's why i realized that those who trained them deserve to be respected and i began considering their instructions to see how beneficial it is to those following it.

Who is sending you to nairaland, the same governing body right? Yes Do they expect you to respect those you meet on this platform just like those who preached and studied the Bible with your in your home? Yes Since you cannot show that same respect to an outsider like Achorladey you don't deserve to be respected . Do you agree? Do attempt the question

This and many others people see about Jehovah's Witnesses and say you turn the Bible upside down or read it in reverse. You don't know what you hold as belief from the Bible and you are still arrogant and saucy.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus said there will be false prophets who will gather followers who aren't obedient to what Jesus taught so no matter what they do Jesus will condemn them because they are not obedient to his rules and orders! Matthew 7:15-23
So TRUTH about religion is what God's only begotten Son commanded any gathering of worshipers who aren't practicing it don't know the truth!

Your latest response does not change the fact you are running here and there now just to advance more lies and manipulations of the scripture after all your questions that got required response expose the lies and manipulations you want to peddle. Truth has ran into those practising what Jesus taught

Jesus said there will be false prophets who will gather followers who aren't obedient to what Jesus taught so no matter what they do Jesus will condemn them because they are not obedient to his rules and orders! Matthew 7:15-23

Jesus said more than that paapaa about false prophets ;Dand it does not remove the fact that those false prophets include the religious leaders of Jehovah's Witnesses from the time of their existence to this day that they are among these false prophets. Evidence can be seen in the numerous publications they used in advancing their false prophesy . You can choose to accept or reject.

So TRUTH about religion is what God's only begotten Son commanded any gathering of worshipers who aren't practicing it don't know the truth!

What you typed above tells me the truth is not the religious denomination or organisation . The truth is not equally those practising it. That's the reality you don't want to accept.

I know that part of what Jesus taught and his disciples practise is to gather in his name. Thousands of Christian denominations and those that are non denominated do so from sunrise to sunset all year round.

Kingluqman:
Not fully sha

Alright

MaxInDHouse:


My guy this is really easy to settle if you don't know which of the churches is practicing what Jesus taught yet they are all against themselves then it's either you're deceiving yourself or there is no group practicing what this man taught or he never existed at all!

Truth all of a sudden becomes practising what Jesus taught

MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmmmmm, please who are you that i should follow your instruction?

Respect is reciprocal right and do on to others what you want others to do to you?

I keep your question inside bookmarks

MaxInDHouse:


Are you saying thousands of different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are all at the same time EXERCISING FAITH IN ONE MAN?

Tell me the one man you and your religious organisation exercise faith in?

MaxInDHouse:


Well if thousands of religions are claiming they follow one man yet they're contradicting themselves in their teachings it's either they're all liars or one of them is the only true religion.

I have discovered the one teaching the truth among them that's why i'm teaching what they taught me so if you can't figure out the one that has the truth among them yet claiming they're all following the same man while contradicting themselves it simply means you're of the opinion that there is no truth anywhere!

Simple instruction you cannot follow. That's Do what you were asked first, no way.

Well if thousands of religions are claiming they follow one man yet they're contradicting themselves in their teachings it's either they're all liars or one of them is the only true religion.

The bold is where you want to sit and peddle more lies and manipulations packed into your brains. Following Jesus is different from Jehovah's Witnesses contradicting Deeper life. Spot the difference. True religion is not defined in being a Jehovah’s witness or being a deeper life. Spot the difference.

I have discovered the one teaching the truth among them that's why i'm teaching what they taught me so

I have shown you evidence where they wrote clearly they were teaching lies and members are forced to accept lies as truth and contradicting their very own teachings and doctrines and those of other religious denominations.

so if you can't figure out the one that has the truth among them yet claiming they're all following the same man while contradicting themselves it simply means you're of the opinion that there is no truth anywhere

None of them is the truth. Nowhere did your Bible ever say a religious denomination or organization is the truth. When your religious organization tells you, you are in the truth. It is as good as telling you, you are in their organization. Your religious organization is among the thousands contradicting themselves. I have repeatedly told you the truth is not any religious organization. The Bible you carry never teach any of such. Saying truth is nowhere is denying the air and showing ignorance that you breathe in and out this very moment.

MaxInDHouse:


Please what does it mean to exercise faith in Jesus?

But the righteousness resulting from faith says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’ that is, to bring Christ down, or, ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’ that is, to bring Christ up from the dead.” But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your own mouth and in your own heart”; that is, “the word” of faith, which we are preaching. For if you publicly declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration for salvation. For the scripture says: “No one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.

MaxInDHouse:

So are you saying all churches are teaching lies since they don't teach the same thing and you can't present one that's not lying?

Still asking question. What did you read from the post you are responding to? You have answer already to this question. Now bring back what you read. I want to see it.

Kingluqman:
But I say NO to Oyo-Ogbomosho road.. Na trailer go jam am

Chai that road. The other route is available now abi?